Wanderlei Silva Tells Chael Sonnen to Show Some Respect
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he shut him up!
and then he went talking shit behind his back again… Chael is a weird dude
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Whatever
Shut him up……you try being on a close quarters trip with some ass that has the balls to call you out for the sake of the cameras. Steroids or not Chael could take Vanderlei and his Curly Howard hat and use them both to check the oil in that van
by Jonnycaz2.0 on Sep 23, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Chael could take Vanderlei
No Chael sonnen could take steriods…….
And then proceed to get axe murdered.
by OptimusPiss on Sep 23, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Gotta love Wanderlei
I can’t wait to see him fight again. I think he needs a warm up fight or something because he has been out recovering for a while. I eventually want to see him fight Akiyama or Leben,
Hmmm
That’s not exactly what I was expecting out of a video where Wandy gets in someone’s face. I’m pretty sure if he was in your face you’d know it, hahah.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 23, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I haven’t seen Chael speechless in years:) I like that Wand didn’t really let it go and smile and say it was cool either. Just stared at him.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
There was no country music and no ho-down in that car… If they were in a cell, Wandy would have told Chael what bunk to sleep in. Too funny.
Where did all the big talk go:)? Wand “punctured” the hot air balloon.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe I'm going to defend Sonnen, but here goes...
I don’t think Sonnen was shook, and he’d probably fare just fine establishing dominance in a prison cell environment.
1.) Wandy’s English is difficult to understand, so one word answers as ambivilant as “sure” don’t make me think he’s sincere, even if he understood what was being said.
2.) They were both enroute to promote an upcoming event. What sense would it make to start an argument with the guy you’re sharing the stage with?
3.) Wandy vs. Sonnen would be a great fight. Expect a shit talking escalation at a later date, but make no mistake, Sonnen doesn’t fight for America, or pride, or anything else. He fights for money, and if there’s no sizzle, or up side in beefing with Wandy, he won’t do it.
/can’t believe he just defended Chael “The Cheater” Sonnen
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by Snatchl on Sep 23, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now don't go making sense!
We all know that the reason why Chael didn’t say anything was because he was scared to death of a guy walking around at 50%. (Wand’s own words)
Seriously though, Chael was trying to be professional about things there and I’m sure that was hella awkward. If they have a match signed up eventually I’d expect Chael will do just as much talking as ever and I can’t wait for it personally. I hope they don’t for Wand’s sack though…
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 23, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Chael was pretty uncomfortable, and isn’t used to being called out for his shit in person. There’s an athlete vs. fighter thing going on there. I’ll be more honest than Chael and agree that he wasn’t pissing himself in terror, but I do think he was unnerved. He didn’t try to talk it out or explain himself. I think he knew he’d been way out of line, and, in the parlance of dogfighting, turned cur. As to your point 3, I think you’re right, but that’s also pretty much the whole thing with Chael. A person who’s only in this for money or fame, and doesn’t stand for anything beyond that just doesn’t have the kind of heart that Wanderlei does…and it showed right there. Can you imagine Chael calling someone out face to face over principles? I don’t really see that, so I think shit just got real for him:) so to speak.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Wand's walkout music if he fights Sonnen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEnDRp4-idQ
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Very awkward.
Got the feeling that Chael couldn’t understand him (I couldn’t either without subtitles) and didn’t care to. Maybe this is a match-up that could be made if Wandi’s still around when Sonnen gets back.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 22, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
ah come on
He understood him, Wandy told Chael that he didn’t know Brazil and Chael said “I actually been there”, so he understands. Don’t be mad cause Wandy shut Chael up :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
by Orcus on Sep 23, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Green it
Chael understood…and was SHOOK ONES pt 3
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 23, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That was awesome.
God damn, Wanderlei. He’s magic on a camera. This is how you win fans.
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Dude doesn’t need to win fans. Everyone knows he’s one of the friendliest guys in the sport.
'Ello G'vnor!
Unless you "talk a bad abou Brasil"
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 22, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Who wants to see Wandy/Chael?
Mo Johnston finally fired. Let the house cleaning and road to success begin.
by SSreporters on Sep 22, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Not me
That’s a bad fight for Chael at this point.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
by Neil Manich on Sep 22, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And your point is???
Mo Johnston finally fired. Let the house cleaning and road to success begin.
by SSreporters on Sep 22, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit
I meant Wand. I need to take a nap.
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by Neil Manich on Sep 22, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Wand on his back for 3 rounds? I'll pass
rather see Wand/Leben
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by TylerTreese on Sep 22, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the trash talk between the two would be epic, but Wandy would get murdered by Sonnen
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
"Wand would get murdered by Sonnen"
you seem to have mispelled “smothered.”
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
by Fake Emcee on Sep 23, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
And “knees to the face from the clinch” seems to be missing
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by Barack Lesnar on Sep 23, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I also misspelled the word misspelled
I’ve learned that truly nobody is perfect.
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
Don't feel bad
I misspelled Wandy.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but your shit is plain unforgiveable
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
Wady would march arcoss the ring and nut kick him,
followed by a few soccer kicks if Sonnen did that shit to him.
That was a straight up gangster’s warning: ‘Show respect and you won’t lose any teeth.’ ‘You never know about the future. No?’
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I sure am glad Wanderlei said it.
So the MMA community can stop saying it.
And hopefully Chael can somehow redeem himself.
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by soulrebel5447 on Sep 23, 2010 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Ever seen City of God?
If that movie displayed is one tenth of an accurate portrayal of ghetto life in Brazil, those dudes come out of a fucking meat grinder.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
Yup!
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 23, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
thats right in line with..
“People go missing all the time”.
And for what its worth, if Sonnen and wand are backstage and wand wants Techno on and Sonnen wants country. YOU BETTER BELIEVE THERES GONNA BE A RAVE GOIN ON.
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 23, 2010 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
He'd probably come in 7 lbs overweight pissing Nandro
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I just love the Brazilian philosophy on MMA. Chael even seemed a little intimidated.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
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I wish wanderlei had said that as he pounded chael. Where are your teeth now, playboy?
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Sep 22, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
What the hell?
Who has beef with Wanderlei? Seriously, how does one like MMA and dislike the man?
And also like Chael?
It’s just insane.
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 23, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He did in a ring.
Stopped Bisping relatively well too and got up quickly from underneath him when he did get taken down. Still would get wrestlefucked by Sonnen though.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 22, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re delusional. Chael would beat him. He wouldn’t do a lick of damage though. And if you hate Wanderlei, you suck.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You are
on the money.
People need to get off the; “Wanderlei’s face would be F*’d up,” stuff.
It has no bases in fact.
Either what you said would happen…
OR
Chael would be choked out. Again.
Jackie Treehorn treats his objects like women, man.
by soulrebel5447 on Sep 23, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Chael knows if he said something other than sure
Wanderlei would start beating the shit out of him in the car.
"Because we don't know about the future, no?"
Haunting words from Wanderlei given Chael’s recent news. :-)
by William Wilson on Sep 22, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
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by chopstickthugz on Sep 23, 2010 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I laughed so hard when I heard that. Seems like all Brazilian fighters have a bit of Nostradamus in them…
You mean Nogstradamus
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 23, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chael was shook
He knew that Wandy outside of the cage = Vale Tudo
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by Damon O. on Sep 22, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
nah
sonnen was chasing down anderson silva outside of the cage before their fight, i don’t think he was shook by a crippled wandi.
that's cause he was high on roids
that shit will fuck with your brains too :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
by Orcus on Sep 23, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Outside of the cage I like Wandy’s chances. Difficult on one leg though:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
problem is
that Chael does it behind his back, which is a bitch move if you ask me, he should have said something to Wandy’s face, Rampage style. but he’s all talk and no action (unless he’s got the roids in his system, of course).
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
some people
don’t like to fight if they aren’t getting paid.
what is there to be gained by telling wand that he’s an ex-fighter in a van?
at best, an awkward situation.
at worst, a fight in a van.
stay classy
by kellly on Sep 23, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wand is a killer. he puts people to sleep.
Sonnen has never bruised someone in a Zuffa cage. He couldn’t put Fihlo away when Paulo was high as shit and more concerned with talking to invisible Jesus then fighting. Quit pretending he is scary.
Tough guys don’t turn into yes men when they are confronted. Sonnen is not a tough Guy as the video showed.
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Sep 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Chael seemed to have a pretty "whatever" attitude to Wandy's comments
I love Chael Sonnen!
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Especially when he looked scared and said “thank you.”
by bleve_ on Sep 23, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
yeah scared of a broken down Wandy who is well past his prime…….
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
I’m not saying he’s scared of him in the ring, I’m saying he got punked in real life… there’s a difference. If you’ve ever intimidated someone in real life its kinda easy to spot.
I wouldnt really call that punking someone, nor does it appear Wandy is doing anything more than sharing some advice and his opinion.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Hmm, when you tell someone that if they don’t have respect they lose their teeth and the other person says thank you and turns his head… that’s a bit of a punking. Its that whole uncomfortable eye contact thing… like a dominant dog and a submissive dog… I didn’t make up the darn rules.
by bleve_ on Sep 23, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And who compliments someone right before they punk them? Was it maybe a little uncomfotable because Wandy was being open and sharing his disagreements with Chael sure, but I would hardly call that punking. Again, looking at Chael’s response I saw more of a “whatever, I don’t care what you have to say” attitude.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
As little as I like Sonnen, I doubt his heart rate went up much.
Wandy is a true bad ass, and I’d take him over Sonnen in a street fight, but I highly doubt Sonnen would engage in a street fight, given everything he has to lose.
Wandy has the same things to lose at this point, but I’d imagine the difference in their upbringing and environments plays a factor in the actual possibility of a fight going down.
Maybe it’s the flu talking (been sick all week), but grown-ass men with something to lose don’t fight for pride alone.
I love the Brazilian folk wisdom of “Show Respect, keep your teeth”, but this ain’t Brazil. This is America, Jack! Knock out a guy’s chicklets in a street fight (with the exception of Austin, TX), and prepare for a legal defense from your cell, or a nice payout to the vitcim (read loser) of the fight. Guys like War Machine and Monsoon might think pressing charges is for pussies, and you might too, but a court of law would see it differently…
/This rant brought to you by Flu induced Contrarianism
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right
we’re so different… Hey, have you seen that footage with Rampage and King MO inside a van? Or maybe have you watched TUF? yeah, we down here in Brazil are such savages, it’s nothing like America! I can learn more how to stay classy from your culture, that’s why I never miss a TUF episode!
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
by Orcus on Sep 23, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't say that the USA doesn't have similar rough neighborhoods, but I doubt Sonnen comes from one.
TUF has plenty of fighters who display the kind of short fuse, my rep means everything attitude, many of whom are American, born and bred. The idea that being shook means anything to someone like Sonnen. Why fight for free when you get paid to do it?
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
then don't generalize things
and keep them individually, that’s much easier… as for Sonnen, I know he’s just a showman, I’m not surprised he backed down, he’s just for show, not that there’s anything wrong with it, I rather keep things civil too. But if you talk all the stuff he does, then he should be able to back them up, but again, I understand why he doesn’t since he’s a phony (the irony since that’s what he calls Silva).
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
you are correct that Sonnen is phoney
He’s a natural politician, and that requires tons of that attribute.
The shit that he talked was indefensible in any context other than building sizzle for a fight, but he did that part really well. Since he denied a majority of it, why would he repeat such nonsense on camera?
It just strikes me as odd how many posters on this think Sonnen would be scared in this scenario. In my view, his inner lightbulb is going off registering a future money making fight built on epic shit talking, to put the entire Portugeuse speaking world on fire enough to buy a PPV and hope for Sonnen to go down at Wandy’s hands.
Also, does anyone think the dynamic would be different if Sonnen is sitting behind Wandy, instead of vice versa?
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
Wandy would have done the same if he was sitting in front. The thing about Sonnen, is that he did not take back anything he said, the only thing I can think of that he took back (or rather neglect that he said it in the first place) was his statements regarding Lance Armstrong, but everything else he hasn’t denied.
On a side note, I actually think it would have been profitable for him to talk crap about Wandy in front of him, he’ll need a big money fight when he comes back (if he loses the right for a rematch) and Wandy is a big name, and someone who gets defensive rather easily. That’s all he’d need to work his ‘magic’ to hype a fight, because unlike AS, Wandy will talk back, with really bad pronunciation, another attribute Sonnen could go after.
As for Sonnen being scared, I really think he was in a way. It’s one thing to fight in MMA in front of everybody to see and with not only medical personal close but also referees to help prevent anything really bad happening to a fighter. It’s something completely different to fight inside a van, where you can’t use your wrestling and against someone as heavy handed as Wandy who only needs to throw some punches to get the job done, and in front of a camera and with no one to break it up.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Its not about an actual fight or everything residing on a “rep”, its an “in the moment thing”. Its that elusive “respect” thing that Chael can’t understand… if he didn’t understand what it was, he just learned it.
Its easy to talk about people when they’re not around or when there’s mediating individuals involved… its a whole other world to have to talk those words to someone’s face. There doesn’t have to be a fight but words have incredible power, if you’re gonna be careless about them be prepared for someone else to take them very seriously.
People act as if words have no meaning… you do realize people get sued for slander every day. His shtick might of got him his 15 minutes… but he won’t be remembered as a champion, but merely a clown who was a good wrestler.
He would be scared of him outside of the cage. But I despise Chael Sonnen, so I guess we have our differences:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol I keep waiting for Chael to criticize Wandy’s wardrobe and hat now similar to Anderson. They run people like that out of Chael’s neighborhood ;)
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
But afterward, Chael’s gracious enough to sell your house for you. Very mafia.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT that was intense… this fight needs to happen ASAP! hopefully Sonnen uses his political influence and skills to get out of this steroid melee.
by your mom is beautiful on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions
OMG PEDs or not Sonnen puts Wand on his back for eternity and beats him silly. American wrestlng is the juggernaut….even GSP is bringing that.
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
Beats him silly?
If by silly you’re referring to Wandy eventually having to laugh at Sonnen and his lack of power, sure.
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
by Fake Emcee on Sep 23, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Is Wandy the Brazilian Tom Waits or not?
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
by Koob on Sep 23, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
puleeeez
I like Brazil, BJJ, and some of the shit Sonnen said was retarded but COME ON, these Brazilian dudes need to stop being so sensitive.
Sonnen looked unphazed, and we all know he would kick wandy’s ass.
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by nostraboris on Sep 23, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
No, we don’t all know that. Sonnen knew better than to talk that shit in front of Wand. Pissing hot would’ve been the least of his worries.
by GetYourHeadStomps on Sep 23, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
gimme a break
you send Sonnen, Matt Hughes and Brock Lesnar to another country and see how they react to people saying the U.S. is a bunch of redneck, ignorant warmongers… how do you think team America would react? Think outside of your insulated bubble.
by bleve_ on Sep 23, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERF***ING DAY YEAH!
AMERICA!!!!!!….
F*** YEAH!
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by soulrebel5447 on Sep 23, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Simple
Matt Hughes would snort dismissively and drive away slowly on his tractor, Sonnen would attempt to run for a local political office, and I assume Brock would consume a small village, leaving a sole survivor alive. The survivor’s attempts at revenge would amuse Lesnar
by Patrick John McGreevy on Sep 23, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions
You got it all right, except that Lesnar would leave the women alive, in order to procreate MMA superbeings.
In the red corner, fighting out of Brazil, Hock “The Hed Blooded Human Hecking Machine” Lesnar!
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i am brazilian
and i totally agree with you….people in brazil keep saying how absurd sonnen´s trash-talk are.
people dont get it´s a self-promotion….that sonnen just wants attention….
if you thought that wand is sensative….god, you dont know how much most of the brazilian fans hate sonnen exclusvely because of his trash talk….
i dont bother….i think its rather funny…how he says he´d beat up GSP, Lesnar and Shogun
Just because you know his intentions
doesn’t make him not deuchy for saying some of the stuff he says.
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
whatever Sonnen is going through legally with PEDs, sonnen takes wand down repeatedly until wand is a bloody mess…
i love wand but he has never been the guy to stop take downs.
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And Chael has never been the guy to avoid getting choked to death while I laugh at him.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
What would it be?
Oh yeah…. the 8th Submission Loss?
In fact he is the perfect foil for Brazilians… For them to show their skill set against.
Jackie Treehorn treats his objects like women, man.
by soulrebel5447 on Sep 23, 2010 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
then you never seem him fight
seriously, do people here that keeps saying this ever seen him fight outside the UFC?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
His fighting outside of the UFC is a thing of the past,
so why base any arguments on something that hasn’t happened in over 3 1/2 years? Especially when we’ve seen that the take down defense that he had, isn’t quite what he currently has…
I love Wand as much as the next guy, but he has won 2 of his last 7 fights. He is no longer the beast that he once was in Pride and living in the past won’t change that.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 23, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I bring in the argument because I was responding to someone saying he has ‘never’ been able to stop takedowns. And his fights in the UFC hasn’t been against wrestlers to show the flip side to this (with exceptions to Rampage, to which the fight did not go to the ground). And he’s 2-7, one loss to a prime HW in Mirko, a loss to Hendo (to which he was sick, I know that’s no excuse, but it’s true), a close fight with Chuck when Chuck still had a chin, a loss to Page which is legit, and a loss to Ace Ventura to which I honestly gave him the W, but he lost in the judges eyes, but the point is he didn’t look bad. Then again, I am an apologist for the man, and you can scratch all the stuff I just said, the only thing I’m trying to refute is his ‘terrible’ TDD, the rest is just me having faith in his comeback :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Focusing just on his TDD we can look at the Chuck fight and go from there. I haven’t seen the fight since it happened so I’m probably remembering it poorly, but from what I recall Chuck took him down at will for points.
I’m not saying his TDD is missing, I’m just saying I don’t think it has ever really been tested outside of a couple of fighters in his prime and that in general I probably have to agree with “radamez85” in how a fight would Chael would play out. Especially at this point in his career. Chael would take him down and maul him for the duration…
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 23, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
ah come on
the take downs on that fight was unexpected, even Chuck said afterwards that he did that because no one would expect him to do that, Wandy included. Had he been fighting someone who’s more of a wrestler he’d have been more conservative with his striking.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I’m not saying that anybody expected Chuck to take him down. I am saying though that after a few of them you’d think Wand would start expecting them and be able to stuff them if his TDD was worth noting. He didn’t though and I’m not sure it is worth noting. Anymore at least.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
but he probably didn’t train for it, that’s what I’m saying. before fighting someone like Chuck, I’m sure Wandy didn’t train for TDD, athletes need to train certain aspects of fighting to keep them sharp. Lil Nog said he didn’t train for wrestling in his last fight and it showed.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Wand challenged his manhood, and Chael backed down....
He flat out told him there’s “danger” in talking like that , and “we don’t know about the future” , wich is Brazillian for “accidents happen” j/k. Serriously though, for everyone saying he would lay on Wand for three rounds, he clearly was not talking about having a "sanctioned mma bout " in the cage. He told a grown man, a peer, “don’t do that” AND THEN STARED AT HIM LIKE I DARE YOU TO SAY SOMETHING CRAZY.
I hate to bag on Chael but he was out of line with some of with biggoted comments. I think Wand
The harder you work, the luckier you get.........
by The Demolition Man on Sep 23, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
lol that was really cool.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
damn my post is riddled with typos.
The harder you work, the luckier you get.........
by The Demolition Man on Sep 23, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions
What a Clown
What Sonnen did was demonstrate what a dick he is. He essentially didn’t dispute, or recant, having issue with the entire population of Brazil. How about not being an overbearing jerk? Does he seriously want to cling to disliking the Brazilians? I haven’t liked him from day one. I’m glad and not surprised he’s turning out to be 100% artificial on all fronts.
And I loathe the defense that we’re all just missing the point. “He’s just trying to get paid suckers!” As though that should count as justification for anything.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. But we’re the naive ones:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I know Chael would wrestlerape Wandy six ways to Sunday,
But holy fuck he looked shook there. And he says he’d intimidate Lesnar? Please.
Wandy is a PIMP for this. Give respect and you won’t lose your teeth? Classic. I don’t know about the future? Spoken like a true gangster.
by Polyhedron on Sep 23, 2010 1:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i don't think wrestling gonna help Chael much
if Wandy decides to whoop his ass in a van.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Paulo Filho's van son
Imagine an African white christ from space
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 23, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
On some Brazillian goodfellas shit.
You a tough guy, huh? You a tough guy? Paulo, tell em what we do to tough guys.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Vitor in the passenger seat “You can expect Jesus bro”
Imagine an African white christ from space
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 23, 2010 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
but not even he can save you.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions
leave him in the favelas naked besides the crooked hat and pink blouse
Imagine an African white christ from space
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 23, 2010 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know, man.
That’s not really considered bad treatment in Brazil.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Paulo, in the back
I think I see him.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
seems like a cool dude
i’d love to sit in a bar with wanderlei, have a beer and a laugh, but i’d still be scared shitless
The internet fanboy love for Wandy is still strong as ever
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
I’m sure it’s not as strong as the love he has for his fans, though.
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Sep 23, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’m a Wandy fan too, don’t get me wrong. But he can literally do no wrong when it comes to his fans or everything gets blown so out of proportion with him. It’s comical
Wandy is great with his fans though. Him telling that lady at the UFC Expo that he was going to let all those fans in line stay so they could get an autograph and picture was the coolest thing ever
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Woah woah woah
Hold on a minute partner. You do NOT talk about the wand man like that. I’m bout to let the tiger outta the cage.
'Ello G'vnor!
Shun this non-believer^!!!
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
That's coz Wand is the fucking MAN
Humble as hell , heart of a lion and a set of brass balls … Nuff said
so then Dad goes and turns the knife on her .. then he turns to me and sez ........................................... Why so Serious ??
by RearNakedBloke on Sep 23, 2010 1:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
and too many concussions
our favorite ex-fighter put together a coherent thought on camera during a van ride!
small victories
i hope you and i take a van ride together one day.....
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Sep 23, 2010 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
That had shades of Pride Wand! Regardless if Chael would beat him, the guy speaks his mind when he feels he has to and is fearless. You can tell Chael’s act is just that, otherwise he would have said more, he only uses his “smack” when he has something to promote. I think cameras or not, Wand would have said that shit, and I applaud and love him (win or lose) for this above all: He’s never phony.
Chael has had fans for a year. 3 fights ago he wasnt even on the main card. Wand has many fans like myself who have been fans for a decade….win or lose. He’s a living legend.
by JimmersonzGlove on Sep 23, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Maybe it’s time for Sonnen to focus on his political career. With any luck he can get a bird hunting lunch date with Dick Cheney. Actually, by the look of his back, maybe he already did.
He’d make a great ambassador to Brazil. Good to see he’s building up some foreign policy cred.
The Republic is doomed. Doomed!
Wandy: Hide yo kids, Hide yo wives, Hide yo husbunds
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
by Rod Mapada on Sep 23, 2010 2:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mayhem doing the home alone impression
Cracks me up everytime
by chunkyass on Sep 23, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Chael looked far from scared more like he didn’t give a fuck about anything Wand had to say to him.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/76866807deabe3c1/
Conspiracy Theory for Sonnen Fans.
Wanderlei and the Brazilian Mob poisoned his angelic body with some sort of magic fruit.
The kinda our culture calls… PEDs
Ready? Begin!
Jackie Treehorn treats his objects like women, man.
by soulrebel5447 on Sep 23, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how Chael is going to look when oh wait nevermind won’t be seeing him for a year. Praise Science.
Imagine an African white christ from space
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 23, 2010 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sonnen fan in Sonnen apology SHOCKER
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 23, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If it wasn’t for the subtitles I would have no clue what the fuck Wanderlei was saying half the time :(
by Patrick John McGreevy on Sep 23, 2010 7:13 AM EDT reply actions
sad part
it looks like we’re seeing the effects of head trauma on wand.
we can only hope that the UFC doesn’t book a sonnen/silva fight because that will only exacerbate wand’s neurological problems.
you can't be serious
Wandy has never spoken good English, hopefully that was a joke
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
he’ll make a come back, then people will start believing in him again, WAND FTW!
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Hate to say it but Wandy is done beating any high level opponents.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
my faith in him hasn't died :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Remember when Shogun was done? elll oh ellll
Imagine an African white christ from space
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
my thoughts exactly :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
The irony
Video with Sonnen in it being sponsored by Arrogant Apparel.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
In the Pride era, if you’d have told me that I’d see Wanderlei defending the Nogueira brothers I’d have never believed you…
his beef was mostly with Arona and Bustamante
but nowadays they’re cool too
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I keep thinking I couldn't love Wanderlei any more...
…but then I watch a video like this. That is an amazing man.
And I think I need to get “Quem respeta, nao perde os dentes” tattooed where I can read it every day.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
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If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
Don't do that anymore
I love Wandy, so much, especially because he’s 100% accurate about what he said and was able to threaten Chael without really threatening him.
Wandy is right about Brazil. It’s fucking crazy there.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
meh
when did Wandy say it was crazy over here? I know he doesn’t pronounce things that well, but read the subs if you are having trouble…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
He didn’t say crazy. I did. Some of the things I saw in Brazil were fucking crazy.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
damn
where in Brazil did you go and what did you see?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Porto Alegre, Sao Paulo, Rio, Recife, Joao Pessoa, Natal, and a bunch of smaller cities like Pipa.
A kid, a kid, held me and my husband at gunpoint for his Nike sneakers. I’ve witnessed other people get robbed, I’ve gone into stores that have JUST been robbed, in Sao Paulo I saw a guy get shot in the head a couple of feet away from me on a public street (and it did not make the news). The poverty in Brazil is like nothing else I’ve seen. There were places where my husband, who is Brazilian, told me to not get out of the car or not speak because people will hear my accent and try and steal my things. Crazy things like that.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
well
that should definitely scare anyone who has gone through all that situation, but to be honest, in my 31 years of life, I haven’t witnessed a single robbery or death, and I have travelled pretty much to all corners of Brazil. I guess I should consider myself one of the lucky few? Where the hell are you guys going? to favelas (to which most are peaceful)? I do agree with your last sentiment about not speaking in public in a place like the beaches of Rio though, too many street kids, but besides that…
question, why do you guys travel to so many different places in Brazil? I’d understand a city or two if your husband has family here and wants to visit, but why go to all those places if Brazil is filled with so many "crimes" that you described and have witnessed? Honest question.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Brazil is a very beautiful country. Absolutely beautiful but riddled with crime. You really have never witnessed a single robbery? Where do you live? Within my first week of visiting Brazil I witnessed two robberies — and I was in a small city — Joao Pessoa.
I’ve traveled throughout Brazil because my husband has 99% of his family there. I personally don’t think I’ve seen that many cities in Brazil. Not visit Brazil because of crime? It’s something I’ve learned to accept and acknowledge when I travel to Brazil. It’s not something nice, but it’s something honest. Plus, why should I not visit a beautiful country because of the crime? Does that mean I shouldn’t visit Israel because of crazy suicide bombers?
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
hell
Israel is a place I would never visit! my brother converted to Judaism and travelled there recently, I told him he was carazy… and yes, I never been robbed…
I live in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais, next time you come to my city, you’ll be safe (but the city is boring) :p
again, I understand you coming to visit because of your husband, but you say he has family here, does his family live throughout the country like that? Brazil is a huge country, with many different cultures throughout. You mention places from the northeast all the way to the south, including small cities… usually families in Brazil don’t spread out like that, they stick to the same place (it’s part of our culture). The places you have mentioned are no where alike, they are very different from each other, and the crime rates for each also differs. Places like São Paulo and Rio are where there is high crime rates, a place like Natal is very peaceful, a place like Porto Alegre also very peaceful. Recife can be rough as well I guess. but again, different places, you’re saying your husband has family throughout Brazil like that? My travelling were mostly due to my job when I was younger (I was a tourist guide), so I know the ins and outs mostly.
at the end of the day, no matter where you go you’ll find crimes (US included), it depends where you go. Brazil has a high crime rate overall, I’m not disputing that, but it’s not rampant throughout society, it’s mostly in isolated places that have a low income (I’m not saying there is no robberies outside favelas, there is, plenty, but the crimes occur mostly in notorious favelas).
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
In fairness
I lived in the projects in Sacramento for three months. We had to sleep on the ground a few times because of gang wars. They’d warn everybody that day that there would be a shootout tonight and to stay down. I seen people beat and robbed everyday. We couldn’t play outside in the courtyard cause of random gun fire and junkies. In the first month, someone stole literally every furniture item out of my grandparent’s house, in broad day light. Never saw the police in the projects once.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oakland is 5 times worse than Sac, too.
I’ve seen 15 people mob an old man and his son. The police showed up(like some juiced up Power Rangers), everyone scattered so they just beat up the old man and his son. Next thing you know, they’re bashing random people walking by.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
damn dude
sorry to hear that, must have been really tough
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
It wasn't that bad
You get really used to it.
I was just mentioning that to be fair to Brazil. If a foreigner went to Oakland, they’d think America was a fucking war zone.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
I’ve been to the US on quite a few occasions. I had great times, but even if something bad happened to me I like to think I wouldn’t generalize the whole country, I’m just not like that (or at least I try). but I understand what you are saying, crimes happen all over the globe for sure, no matter where we’re at. That’s definitely a tough upbringing though, have you relocated or have things changed since you were growing up in your area?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I live in Beaverton, OR, now :)
Nike headquarters is just a few miles away. Its like a palace.
I only lived in Sac for a few months, but I lived in Northern California for about 10 years. Shits actually getting worse there. No jobs, more drugs, more gangs. I always stayed clear of real trouble;e anyway.
I think that’s where the disconnect is with Chael’s fans. Where I grew up, if you disrespect someone, you expect a fight. Some people just don’t get that.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
nice to know you’re doing well my friend :p
and agree 100% with your last phrase there
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
The same to you, my friend.
Where in the states did you visit?
I trained with Steven Seagal.
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 24, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks!
I’ve been to Boston, NY, DC triangle area and South Beach Fl, South Beach is my favorite place in the US that I’ve gone to. Hope to be back soon :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
When he was a baby, his parents divorced and both got remarried — huge families. He has a bunch of brothers and sisters and hundreds of cousins and Aunts and Uncles. Even his great grandmother is alive. He doesn’t have family in all of those cities that I mentioned, but we traveled there regardless (I wanted to go). There are still some places I’d like to go to — never been to Bahia and Fortaleza.
There’s danger everywhere you go, but even around nice places there were robberies. I feel that it is more rampant in Brazil than in places like the U.S. Plus the cops in Brazil don’t do anything about it and that’s why people usually don’t even bother calling the cops. I’ve been told that they usually don’t even show up when called. That’s ridiculous.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
lol
I seriously laughed, I’m sorry, I was going to accept all of it until you mentioned the cops… whatever, keep on thinking that way, I can’t convince you.
have a nice trip to Bahia though, Porto Seguro is my favorite place, and very peaceful, but I’m sure you’ll find crimes there, they seem to follow you, but I trully wish you a safe trip :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
In shitty places here in the states,
the police don’t come even if you do call. Or they show up two hours later. Nobody trusts them to help either. In fact, in the hood, children are afraid of the police.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
people in the guettos here are afraid of the police too
there are a bunch of crooked ones, but the main reason is because when they go in to a favela is usually in wars against the drug lords, and they careless shoot people (many times innocent people), and that’s the main reason.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Its exactly the same here
They kick in the door and don’t care who they shoot. They hit old ladies, moms, kids. Sometimes its the wrong house and they still shoot people.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 23, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck police!
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Why would I lie about the cops?
My father-in-law was having a huge party and there were a lot of cars parked outside. Some punk kids stole a bunch of radio’s and crap from the cars. We didn’t call the cops because as was explained to me, sometimes they don’t come, sometimes they come late, and if they do come it’s just worse — what if they actually catch the criminals? They’ll bombard my father-in-law’s home.
I’m not making any of this up. Why would I? If you can’t accept the way your country is, then don’t ‘laugh’ at me for telling you the truth.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
didn’t say you were lying… you just brought that up by yourself. I laugh because you have a ‘hollywood’ mentality about Brazil, but hey, if you think you know it from visiting all those places, I’m not going to tell you the contrary. keep thinking that, it’s fine, your husband’s family seem a bit coco for coco puffs too. just saying…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Wtf? I have a Hollywood view of Brazil? What does that mean? How is my husband’s family coco?
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
it means you have a view based on films, and they are coco because they sound like they are…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
My views on Brazil are based on my experiences there and my husband’s — who was born and raised there and lived there for 25 years.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
doesn’t change the fact that you have a holliwood view on it IMO. meh, you don’t get it, we have different views. ok, your husband lived here for 25 years? good for him, I lived here for 31, so what? different views… You think Brazil is filled with crimes, you say you spent time here and you have witnessed that. ok, I don’t view it that way, I have been living here for 31 years… again, different views… you first said “wandy is right, Brazil is crazy”, when he was stating just the opposite, Chael saying that here when you bow you get your wallet stolen, Wandy says “you don’t know Brazil, so don’t talk about it”, Wandy doesn’t agree with you nor Chael… again, different views… you say you went to at least 7 different Brazilian cities (and many more unnamed smaller ones) and you saw the same things, even though they couldn’t be more different from one another and couldn’t be further from one another regionally, and you say you were ‘visiting’ your husband’s huge spread out coco family, ok then… kinda hard to digest all of that, but at the end you feel that way, what am I gonna do? different views I guess…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I meet some Brazilians on a cruise years ago and when my wife expressed interest in visiting Brazil we were told that unless we planned on going to one of the major cities and staying in well traveled tourist areas that we really shouldn’t. They told us that they loved their country and would never live elsewhere, but that it wasn’t the safest place to visit if you didn’t know what you were getting into.
Based on that and half of the media I’ve seen, I’m perfectly fine not visiting. It sounds fucking crazy just like Keren said…
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 23, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe you and Karen as well, I’m just wondering why she’d return so many times to so many different places if it’s just ‘crazy’ over here.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I doubt she returned and think she most likely just planned out a long trip to what is supposed to be a amazingly beautiful country without really realizing what it involved.
When the wife and I visited Jamaica we planned out our trip based on what we wanted to do and see without really researching the actual areas we would be visiting. It wasn’t until we arrived and were told by the tour guides that some of the areas were were going to be visiting weren’t the best that we realized we might of made a mistake. Thankfully we hadn’t and besides seeing some extremely poor areas (and one mugging), we saw what we hoped to and came home safe.
The choice for us there though was to possibly have wasted a couple of thousand dollars while also having to rebook everything at the last minute to stay in the safer areas of the country, or just go ahead and hope for the best. We went with hoping for the best, but we were much younger and if we had to make the decision again today we’d probably just rebook and take the loss. I’m betting that it was probably something similar there.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 23, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This was a perfect opportunity for Chael to come out and say “Hey man, I was just selling the fight any way I could. I wasn’t being serious, it’s all a joke.”
But no
Because Chael will never apologize for anything he’s said.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
by Keren on Sep 23, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wanderlai seems like the type of dude...
That would BEAT THE FUCK out of someone on the streets of Dana asked him to.
Yo real talk
Wand looks great in a suit.
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I thought by the title,
it was just gonna be wand talking shit about how chael tested positive for roids and how he disrespected the UFC for doing so.
so arrogant....
at around the 4:22 mark chael says; “thats not totally true, ive been to brazil actually.”
wtf???
so you don’t speak the language, you don’t know the culture and you say that to someone who was born and raised there?? so you went on some little 2 week vacation where you likely stayed at a fancy hotel or resort or went there to train for a few days and you know the country???
he needs to go down. i hope he the suspension holds up for an entire year.
well...
i guess dana wont be bringing chael around anymore to represent the ufc!!! hahahahaha!!
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