Get Out of Chael Free Card: Anderson Silva's Gain Is Fan's Loss
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 10:26 AM EDT
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After four years of unprecedented dominance, UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva was finally put to the test at UFC 117. Wrestling stalwart Chael Sonnen not only grounded and pounded the champ, he also caught him standing and simply made him look bad. Real bad.
For years fans have been slow to embrace the dominant champion from Brazil. Pay per view shows headlined by the enigmatic champion have traditionally been poor performers. Was it his ethnicity? His style? The fact that he didn't seem remotely vulnerable, even against legends of the sport like multiple weight class champion Dan Henderson? Maybe a little bit of all those things.
All that, thanks to Chael Sonnen, had changed. For the first time in memory, fans were excited by the prospect of an Anderson Silva title defense. Sonnen had revealed huge chinks in the champion's armor. The rematch would have certainly been one of the biggest fights of 2011.
Unfortunately, it appears Sonnen has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. I say "appears" because the story out of California seems to change not just daily, but hourly. No one seems to know exactly what Sonnen tested positive for, let alone what levels of any drug were in his system. But, working on the assumption that a one-year suspension will follow a positive test, it's safe to say Sonnen-Silva II is off for now.
There are a lot of victims here: the UFC, which misses out on a big money matchup. The fans, who have seen one of the best fights of the decade marred by PED allegations and been cheated out of a compelling rematch to boot. And don't forget Anderson Silva on your list of the victamized. He won't get to prove a point against his loudmouth challenger, a point he is reportedly desperate to make.
The replacements for Sonnen leave much to be desired. Will he meet the plodding Yushin Okami? Nate Marquardt once again? Perhaps Vitor Belfort, who hasn't fought in a calendar year and only five times in the last four years? Beyond Sonnen, the middleweight cupboard is bare. Which leaves Silva right where he started before Sonnen - looking to light heavyweight and even boxing for big money paydays.
Some possible matchups after the break.
Vitor Belfort: Long time fans have been waiting twelve years for the return of the "old Vitor" the guy who steamrolled Wanderlei Silva and looked like a juiced up gift from the gods. We've seen flashes here and there and in the last four years he's accumulated the longest winning streak of his career. Unfortunately, only two of those five wins were at middleweight - with no middleweight wins in the UFC.
Wanderlei Silva: The legendary Silva opened a door that led to title contention by upsetting Michael Bisping earlier this year. This fight would be a fan pleasing slugfest without a doubt. But would it be sport? And does it matter?
Randy Couture: Couture is riding high after his major media showdown with boxing's James Toney. Couture has been intrigued by Silva for a long time and this would undoubtedly be the matchup with the most economic implications for the UFC. It would be a good way to kill time while waiting for Sonnen's return.
Jon Jones: Let's face facts - Silva has lost a step or three. At 35, his best days are behind him. If the UFC wants to use the Spider's name and reputation to build a new star, who better than Jon Jones? Jones is the promotion's top prospect and has all the potential in the world. He's yet, however, to catch the fan's eye. This would accomplish that goal and propel Jones to the next level. A loss is a learning experience and comes at the hands of one of the best fighters of all-time. It's the highly coveted "win-win."
Jake Shields: A darkhorse contender. The UFC is adamant that they want Shields at welterweight. But the former Strikeforce midddleweight champion has many of the same tools Sonnen used to keep Silva on his back. This fight could be more compelling than many realize.
Sonnen's absence has definitely opened doors and created a multitude of options for the UFC. So, let's play matchmaker. What would you do if you were Joe Silva for a day?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 22, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
"Get Out of Chael Free Card"
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by Damon O. on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 22, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
At this point MWs need to sort themselves out
I say fight Bones (or anyone at LHW)! It’s obvious that the MWs need to sort out their ranks before the next “REAL” title fight. ie Not a UFC manufactured “Vitor is a legitimate contender” spin fest.
vitor isnt a legitamate contender
but hes a damn interesting one, i personally think anderson smokes him but his power and hand speed potentially could cause problems for anderson
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
If the UFC wants this to be seen as a legitimate sport, they need to have legitimate contenders.
by HarmlessNinja on Sep 22, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I voted for Jones too. If Okami beats Marquardt, then I wouldn’t mind seeing that fight, I’m not too excited for Marquardt/Silva II though
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
More than the article itself
I thought you had a great title to it.
"90% of this sport is 50% mental" - Tim Sylvia
Unfortunately, each choice has its downfalls, which very clearly underscores how bereft the MW division is of talent on a consistent basis. Putting Marquardt in a title match would be the second time in Anderson Silva’s last three title defenses that a fighter who is 1-1 in his last two fights will be vying for the title.
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by Jonathan Snowed In on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
With every choice having its downfall I still voted for Chael.
Regardless of the steroid scandal, he has the most significant tools that have been displayed to beat Anderson. Outside of a match with GSP, I still think that is the best option.
"90% of this sport is 50% mental" - Tim Sylvia
To be honest, I completely I agree. Even with steroids considered, he is by far and away the most legitimate challenger on the list, which again, truly highlights how deprived MW is of talents.
But wait, A. Silva/Court McGee!?
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by Jonathan Snowed In on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Counting fail?
If Marquardt beats Okami, he will be 2-0 in his last two fights, 5-1 since the Leites loss due to point deductions.
Also Nate Marquardt/Yushin Okami Winner
There’s no one else who’s qualified at MW.
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I can’t believe how many are voting for Nate/Okami winner. These are people who don’t like fun!
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
"Perhaps Vitor Belfort, who hasn't fought in a calendar year and only five times in the last four years?"
This line is definitely influencing the votes for Belfort. It’s a fun fight on paper but it’s hard to make the case that he deserves a title shot.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I like me some Phun. But if it’s for the title you have to give it to someone who deserves a shot. Someone in ranking. As far as LHW, it’s fair game. But I like Jon Jones vs Anderson Silva.
In fact, why don’t we ask Silva. See if there’s someone he wants to fight NOT named Roy Jones Jr. in the LHW division for the time being. Or you think he’ll use the “injury” excuse.
I love fun, but...
Chael Sonnen is probably going to be out for a year
Vitor Belfort gets injured reaching for cereal out of the cabinet
Wanderlei Silva could be fun but I want to see him against Leben
Randy Couture…..no
Jon Jones? They’re not trying to risk him losing.
and Jake Shields has to worry about Kampmann and the possiblity of getting man sexed by GSP.
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Are you really predicting a 12 month suspension?
I would have thought 3 or 6 at the most, but I really don’t have any reason for that.
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Hmm....
Shields has a much better shot at beating Anderson than he does at beating GSP, although he is unlikely to win that one either…
I agree with Snowden that Jon Jones would be a win-win – even if Anderson prevails, which is rather unlikely IMO, losing to a guy still considered all-world this early in his career isn’t really a concern at all. Would be more like GSP was after losing to Hughes IMO…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 22, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What's so fun about the other options?
Couture and Wanderlei will be picked apart, and that would just be sad, not fun. Jones wouldn’t be a title fight, because he can’t make MW. Why on earth would you want to wait for Sonnen before Silva defends again?
Belfort is the only real option, and I’m getting a bit fed up with his injuries. Maybe I’m a dick for saying that, but I don’t want another crappy replacement like Maia.
Marquardt is a fun fighter to watch. I can’t figure out why he isn’t a draw. Okami may not be fun, but he is the most underrated fighter in the UFC and deserves a shot.
Anyone else want to see Shields get the shot? After the last bout with Sonnen im about 90% confident Jake would win in dominant fashion.
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So...hyped...
No just no
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to see it
I voted for Jones, but I think Shields would fare far better at MW then WW in the UFC. I can’t agree with 90% because his stand-up is so poor, but he handled getting cracked by Hendo so he has a reasonable chance IMO…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You forgot to put Roy Jones Jr. on the list!
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Of course, Shields offers a chance to do “co-promotion” of sorts.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
UFC vs StrikeForce?
Gush. But you know Dana White is trying to be the ONLY MMA organization out there. He’s not reasonable like Dream/Sengoku
Strikeforce probably wouldn't even ask for much $$
They aren’t M1, and Jacare isn’t Fedor. Just pay the fighter and let everyone know that the guy is the Strikeforce champ.
That's very true.
I can picture Scott Coker being super cool about it.
“Ya know, if you guys can like pay, ya know, Jacare and say he’s like our champ, ya know, like once or twice.”
He’s used to be fucked over and dicked around by the best, Dana would be like a sugar daddy to him.
“Listen, Scott: we’re not paying you a fucking dime. In fact, you fucking owe me.”
“That seems fair, ya know.”
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 22, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, because Jacare offers something that Thales Leites or Damien Maia didn’t.
Oh, wait. No he doesn’t! That’s a stupid idea.
That's a lame analogy
How do you think Chael’s weak standup was so successful?
Forrest has no ground game and no speed, so Silva only had to worry about striking. Maia/Leites had no standup, so Silva only had to worry about BJJ and the occasional slowass TD attempt.
I don’t think Jacare has much of a chance, but at least he has a reasonably complete game and is very quick.
Good takedowns and decent standup
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by Chris Barton on Sep 22, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Hector Lombard
Don’t a fuck who you are.
Too bad he’s stuck with no competition. At least he’s racking up 30 second KO highlights.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 22, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just glad I don't have to see Sonnen-Silva II, I saw that one already I know how it ends.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
I’m also happy not to see Sonnen vs. Silva 2. I believe we’re the minority.
by Nick Thomas on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I don’t understand how it was one of the “fights of the decade” From an action standpoint, it was rather dull. It was the novelty of the situation that was impressive, not the actual action.
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certainly
it was entertaining because AS was being beat and had a hell of a come back. but I agree that for the fight itself, it wasn’t FOTY caliber or anything close to it.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I like the Leben/Akiyama fight much more myself.
The Silva/Sonnen fight was shocking and crazy and unexpected….then it ended up being exactly like I thought is was gonna be.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I was glued to my seat for the whole fight. It was the most compelling thing I’ve seen since…well, I can’t remember a fight like it.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Compelling doesn’t = exciting though. Again, it was the novelty of immortal Anderson getting worked. That doesn’t change the fact that it was 20 minutes of Chael laying in Anderson’s guard.
http://www.instrength.com
Chael was working ground N pound and trying to do damage.
The most shocking part of the fight was that it took Andy so long to submit him that’s all. It was definitely exciting but it wasn’t FOTY in my opinion
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it took him that long because he had to let Sonnen wear himself out. AS also trained Sonnen throughout the fight to not worry about having his wrist being held and pinned to his hip by AS. Watch the fight again. It is literally 4.5 rounds of Anderson preparing Sonnen to accept being submitted.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Yeah I could see it.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
but would you say that was because of the style of fight it became
or because you didn’t expect Silva to be so vulnerable?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I thought it was amazing. An underdog who takes it to the best fighter in the business, only to lose in miraculous fashion. I couldn’t ask for anything more and I’d take that feeling over a million Korean Zombie fights.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
so we're in agreement
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Probably, if it made you feel alive to watch it…
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
don't get me wrong
I was pulling my hair out during the fight with a “wtf” face, and jumped, screamed and woke up the whole neighborhood when Silva pulled out the submission. That was the most exciting for me all year, but the “type” of fight wasn’t the reason, it was because it was AS being beat by Chael Sonnen and having a great comeback. it was my personal bias that made it exciting, but putting it aside, and looking at the “fight” that it was alone, it’s not FOTY (nor even close) material. that’s what I mean.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Agreed. Sub of the year? Possible. Comeback of the year? Hell yeah. Fight of the year? Nyet.
http://www.instrength.com
precisely :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Obviously we look for different things in the fights that move us. That’s okay.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think what they are getting at is
That if that were Belfort under Sonnen, or Kampmann under Kos, then people would not feel it was remotely close to FOTY.
Having said that, I agree it was one of the best ever for me personally, but it is precisely because of who was involved that made it so good to me…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 22, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It just doesn't measure up to the Leben/Akiyama fight for me.
Also the whole steroid thing hurt my perception
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I could ask for a lot more. Maybe it’s because I wasn’t caught up in the aura of invincibility Anderson has around him as much as most people, but other than the finish, how was it much different from Shields/Hendo, which most people found incredibly boring? At least Shields passed to mount every round.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 22, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
come on
it’s definitely the reason people got so excited for the fight, they never seen AS being beat so bad.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Your standards for excitement may be unresasonably high
Even though Chael was dominating the rounds, the standing exchanges were absolutely epic, Chael’s GNP was brutal, and Anderson’s heart/defense was amazing.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Sep 22, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
We arent cheated out of a good rematch
We were cheated IN to watching someone on performance enhancing drugs compete in what is supposed to be a legitimate sport.
I’m sick of all this “It’s going on so we should accept it” bull, and all of the bleeding hearts saying poor Chael shouldn’t be crucified just because he got caught. Do you really think that based on the way in which he imposed his will that he would be able to compete to the same level in a rematch without the aid of said PEDs (Assuming allegations are true)? And with that do you really care to see a rematch?
The fact is that the people who get caught are representatives for the use of PED’s in the sport and therefor need to be punished for tarnishing the purity of the sport.
But hey, it’s more entertaining if we allow the fighters to use and become beasts, and why dont we let them use folding chairs and DDT’s…. If you want to watch entertainment where unnatural abilities are applauded, then go watch wrestling. MMA as a sport should be saved for athletes.
u r foolish to think the majority of pros havent taken them at sometime.
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 22, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you are foolish for thinking that’s what I said.
I merely stated that just because it’s prevalent doesn’t mean it should be tolerated. You can’t punish all the fighters based on the presumption that they are using, you can deturr them by harshly punishing the ones who are proven to be using. It’s completely fair.
Let’s face facts – Silva has lost a step or three.
Two fights ago he made Forrest Griffin look like a fool. Not quite sure how doing that, making Demian Maia look like a rookie, and then submitting a roid powered Olympic level wrestler means he’s losing a step.
I mean, everyone already knew Sonnen was going to take him down over and over again. Don’t really see how that validates your claim, Johnny.
agreed here
anyone here ever broken their ribs? try doing anything with broken ribs let alone fighting an olympic caliber wrestler for 5 rounds
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by milk72 on Sep 22, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that shit would be murder!!!!
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Sep 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed
people always tend to look at a fighter’s last performance and not their recent history, I thought we were past this already. One bad showing and the guy isn’t the same anymore… crazy talk.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
He’s looked slow and hittable to me in his last few fights.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
on the Maia fight too?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
5th round of maia yes
but the beginning of it was a masterful performance
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
easier to hit someone when they are in a wrestling stance.
I am sure you covered this topic in your book. …. what was the name of it? And good article sir. Very well written.
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 22, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's because his opponents were better
Forrest, by his own words, is a “slow, slow white boy”. Franklin is another technical striker with slow footwork, but he was able to connect a few times. Silva can make predictable striking look foolish. I don’t think he’s lost a step, and it’s just the way he’s always been. The contenders have just sucked for a while.
Who knows what happened at the end of the Maia fight, though. Maybe he did gas due to the layoff.
I actually agree
He hasn’t fought like “himself” since his move to 205. I think he might have RJJd himself.
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by Chris Barton on Sep 22, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually didn't expect so many takedowns
The only reason Henderson took him down was Silva’s botched flying knee. I figured Chael would fail on a bunch of takedowns and take serious damage in the process.
I agree that it’s a little quick to diagnose Silva as a fighter on the decline, but I was frankly stunned by how often Chael landed cleanly standing in that fight. A prime Silva should have been negating those shots with head movement and speed, and it just wasn’t happening. Not to take anything away from Chael’s performance, but, given Chael’s hand-speed, Silva should have dominated those exchanges. Hopefully he was hurt, or out of sorts, or something else, but it was a little alarming.
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by Dave Strummer on Sep 22, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted for Marquardt/Okami but
I think is very possible that Jake Shields can submit Anderson Silva if The spider doesn’t knock him standing before hand.
why does everyone act like Sonnen has viscous G.n.P?
I smack chicks on the ass harder during love making than Sonnen hits guys in fights. I know he COULD stop people. He chooses not to, so he never loses control. I would be a Sonnen fan if he would hit like he means it. But until then….
Can someone please name a fight Sonnen has finished in the last 3 years with his devastating G.n.P? If you can’t. Then stop refering to it as gnp its LnP.
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chael insists that Okami would own Anderson, so I want to see that fight.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
theyve already faught and Anderson OWNED Okami…
by your mom is beautiful on Sep 22, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
…with an illegal strike off his back.
It was pretty sweet though.
by HarmlessNinja on Sep 22, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Jones
C’mon, they’ve been softballing him up to this point and everyone knows this would be an amazing matchup.
Marquardt should have to clear out the other contenders to get a second shot after how his first one did, Vitor needs to fight a tuneup at 185 before taking on the top guy there (and then there’s the injury rumor), Okami would be acceptable but I honestly don’t think he will get past Nate the Great. Randy could be a decent fight but unfortunately for him I don’t think he has the chin to make this one interesting anymore; I see him getting tagged and finished early. Also, Shields is a terrible choice because he probably could win and would make an even more boring champion whereas at WW there are wrestlers who can keep him from LnPing all day.
Silva vs. Cotoure...
…would probably be the first exciting Cotoure fight since he fought Lesnar. Lovely.
But all these daydreams are for nothing. The Vitor-Belfort-is-not-injured situation seems to point to the UFC regressing to the Belfort vs Silva plan all too obviously.
To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.
Yes, Couture-Nogueira was such a snorefest…
by HarmlessNinja on Sep 22, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva vs. Couture
Sure, it would kill time, but it also may kill Randy. Beating an old man half to death is no way to win fans.
Randy would beat Silva imo.
Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...
Everybody will beat Silva in your opinion.
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Silva vs Corbett
FTR superfight – the spider vs carnage. You know, to fill the time for this Sonnen thing to blow over so we can see the rematch.
finally Anderson v VITOR… ive been waiting for this fight for a while. Vitor via First Round KO… his hands are way too fast and powerful. If Chael and Demian can land on Anderson, which they did, Imagine what Vitor will do to him. Once punch is followed by 100 more.
by your mom is beautiful on Sep 22, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
Not really the fans loss...
…consideriding Chael was roided out for the fight. If he wasn’t loaded on the shit, he wouldn’t have been able to carry silva for that long.
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Keep deluding yourself into thinking that, i’ve honestly never seen to many excuses for a guy who won the fight. No wonder some people were doing laps when they heard the news about Sonnen they’ve wanted no part of the rematch since it was announced because they knew it was only a matter of time until Chael beat him. Also there was nothing marred about the fight, regardless of anything the UFC 117 was epic and I truly hope somewhere sometime we get to do it again.
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