Countdown to UFC 119 Live Discussion

The hour-long 'Countdown To UFC 119: Mir vs. Cro Cop' premieres tonight on Spike at 10:47 PM EST. Join us at Bloodyelbow.com and share your thoughts as the show unfolds.
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UFC 119
Looks like the main event is still on.
by TERRENCEFROMSOUTHEAST on Sep 20, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions
THIS IS TYPED IN CAPS...
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS ITS ACTUALLY ON AT 10:47 Eastern. CAPS LOCK CAPS LOCK 10:47 P.M. CAPS LOCK 10:47 P.M. CAPS LOCK 10:47 P.M. CAPS LOCK 10:47 P.M. CAPS LOCK 10:47 P.M. CAPS LOCK 10:47 P.M. CAPS LOCK
I call bullshit.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 20, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I would also be joking
Didn’t think I needed to specify.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 20, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
other sites had this posted as the time
BE didn’t get the memo apparently
by TylerTreese on Sep 20, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
they updated the post now
hopefully people realize it started early
by TylerTreese on Sep 20, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Time zones are bullshit.
I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.
by Earl Montclair on Sep 20, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
Time and space are a mystery to me...

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by II SMASH II on Sep 20, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Please Frank
Shave the Goatie
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Please Frank
Stand with Crocop.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Sep 20, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't think Frank is at that big of a disadvantage standing with Cro Cop.
I mean he is certainly at a disadvantage, but I don’t think Cro Cop has that one shot KO power anymore. If Mir starts losing the fight standing I think he’ll have plenty of time to adjust and bring the fight to the ground.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 20, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what you mean by that. He has no avenues to success standing with Crocop. He’s at a major disadvantage, KO opportunity or not.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Sep 20, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We said the same thing about Mir when he fought Kongo, a man who outstruck CroCop. I think it’s completely plausible that Mir wins the striking battle.
Still, Frank put Kongo on his ass inside a minute, something CC couldn’t come close to accomplishing in 3 rounds.
Silva put Jardine in a coma, something Liddell couldn’t do.
But I don’t think Cro Cop will have the same problems as Mir won’t have the lengthy kicks in his arsenal nor the strong clinch like Kongo or Overeem.
Food goes in here
Honestly, I think I’d actually be more shocked if CC won the striking. He has looked pretty bad lately, and Mir has shown great standup.
What is this idiocy?
Cro Cop had Kongo mounted in the first.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 20, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean that if Mir comes out striking with Cro Cop
I don’t see him getting slaughtered like you seem to. I think Mir has a greater chance of surviving on the feet with Cro Cop than Cro Cop has of surviving on the ground with Mir.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 20, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn man
when Frank said he wanted a piece of Cro Cop’s anatomy it would have been the perfect opportunity for Mirko to stand up, grab his crotch and say “I’ll give ’em dis piece of anatomy right ’ere!”
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
He’s not French-Canadian, you know.
"There's this image that you have, this interior image of something that's absolutely perfect, and that's your signpost, your guide. And you'll never get there. But without it you'll never get anywhere."
Damn, that was supposed to look Itallian
but looking back at it I can see the GSP influence.
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
In terms of name value, this card sucks.
But the matchups are pretty good. Guillard vs Stephens? Bring it on.
Wrong
In terms of name value, the card is fine.
In terms of relevance, it is lacking.
Forever indebted to CroCop's left leg for getting me into MMA
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 21, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
People bitched about UFC 108 and it ended up being one of the best cards of this year.
Food goes in here
no it wasn't
it was a middle of the pack as far as the fights went and was way down there as far as relevance.
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 21, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Only 2 decisions, great fight from Stout and Lauzon, fun fight with Rashad and Thiago. I really couldn’t care less if a card has “names on it” or isn’t deemed as relevant.
Food goes in here
108 was terrible. I can think of 4 Strikeforce cards this year that blew that away. Fans make me laugh. When it’s a UFC card with bad matchmaking and little relevance, the card is judged by excitement. When a SF card delivers more excitement AND relevance than a card like 108, it still gets dissed. The upcoming SF card is way better than 119 and 120.
by Mr Pulla on Sep 21, 2010 3:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought the UFC 108 was good given the 10,000 injuries that plagued the card, I remember when people were saying it may as well be scrapped.
And what do you deem relevant, does a title have to be on the line, do contenders have to clear cut announced from fight results? Lawler vs Babalu catch-weight was fairly irrelevant in terms of matchmaking but I enjoyed the fight, while Ken-Flo Maynard was much more relevant as the winner was definitively getting a shot at the Penn-Edgar winner, but does that mean I have to like that fight more?
I just think it’s silly to downgrade a fight or fightcard because it’s not as “relevant”.
Food goes in here
You really think so?
Dunham vs. Sherk sets up a LW contender. Remember that Sherk has only lost to Penn and Edgar at LW, and beating Sherk gives him the best resume of every LW outside of the top 3. Only Sotiropoulis comes close.
Little Nog vs. Bader is also pretty much a title shot fight. Regardless of who wins between Machida and Rampage, he needs one more win to get a title shot again. They might do an interim title against Rashad with Shogun out so long, or they might give the winner a gimme match to fill the gap, but it’s a very relevent matchup.
Mir-CroCop is quite relevent also. The loser will never get a title shot again, IMO, while the winner gets to make one more run and is positioned at #5 behind Lesnar, Velasquez, Carwin, and JDS. As long as Joe Silva shelters the winner from those guys, like he sheltered Dan Hardy from wrestlers, he’s close to a title shot.
CB Dollaway's face makes me mad
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by Damon O. on Sep 20, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
oh shit
took the words out of my mouth
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
by donkeypunch on Sep 20, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
He has such a cheap action movie bad-guy snarl
Forever indebted to CroCop's left leg for getting me into MMA
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 21, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Saturday can’t come fast enough
"The left hand brings death, but the right one even I am afraid of."-Mariusz Pudzianowski
Saturday's got that stamina, huh?
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
by donkeypunch on Sep 20, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Still comes before Sunday though
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Arron Simpson has fight coming up anyone know who it is I forgot
by malito3og3 on Sep 20, 2010 11:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mark Munoz at 123
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
Did he then try to lead you into his van?
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
What is wrong with C.B's face???
"The left hand brings death, but the right one even I am afraid of."-Mariusz Pudzianowski
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
by donkeypunch on Sep 20, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
he has a phantom shitler under his nose
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Oh, Chael
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by Damon O. on Sep 20, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
nice
Forever indebted to CroCop's left leg for getting me into MMA
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 21, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
happy to green this
I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.
by Earl Montclair on Sep 21, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
If Mir stands with CC he will get crushed. He better fake a shot and catch him like he did Kongo. I wish the CC that fought Wand in the 2nd fight would show up. Mir would be toast.
by Mr Pulla on Sep 21, 2010 1:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

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