James Toney Wants to Keep Fighting MMA, Kimbo Slice More Than Willing to Fight Him
by Kid Nate on Sep 2, 2010 12:04 AM EDT
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The UFC tried to put Kimbo Slice and James Toney together, but Toney turned it down. Now although the UFC is done with both fighters, it appears there is an opportunity to book that fight. For his part, Kimbo is open to facing Toney, via MMA Fighting:
"I never heard anything about me fighting James Toney, but you know, like I said, again, I'll fight anybody, man. C'mon, everybody knows that about me from my street-fighting days. Put anybody in front of me, train me to be the best, I'll fight the best. That's one thing about Kimbo Slice that everybody knows."
And Toney's trainer Trevor Sherman, says there is also interest from other promotions in Toney fighting more MMA, again via MMA Fighting:
"I still love James," Sherman said. "I hope he doesn't stop doing MMA, and if the UFC does release him ... trust me -- there's plenty of interest."
Sherman also says that he had wanted Kimbo for Toney:
"I wanted him to fight Kimbo -- I thought he should have done that as a tune-up, but James didn't want a tune-up," Sherman said. "It was his first fight, and it was against one of the best. Randy wouldn't allow any room for error. Randy is probably the best ever at game planning."
Even though the former EliteXC leadership -- ie Gary and Jared 'Skala' Shaw are currently embarking on a boxing career for Kimbo, one would think that there's enough interest in a Kimbo Slice vs James Toney mma fight to get that booked. It would add a lot of drawing power to say, a Strikeforce card on Showtime or even CBS.
The funny thing is, even though Toney vs Slice is still a viable fight economically, I think Dana White made the right call to dump both men from the UFC. He's already gotten a good squeeze out of each fighter and it would potentially erode the promotion's reputation for quality to go back for more.
Booking Kimbo Slice in a boxing bout against James Toney would make no sense. Toney would crush him in all likelihood and with it, any chance to milk Kimbo as a draw in the boxing ring, where Toney hasn't drawn in years.
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With Mrs. Mir vs Mrs. Ortiz as the co-main event.
by pud333 on Sep 2, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
this
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 2, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Just popped to mind
James Toney vs. Bob Sapp in Japan!
by dreamers_12345 on Sep 2, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
boy someone would really have to WANT to lose that one
dig deep guys you can’t both lose.
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Double TKO (exhaustion)
Rd. 1 3:22
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We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
And here I was hoping James Toney would just go away.
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Who?
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We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
Dude
I feel like Randy could have done this trick on Toney in the center of the octagon
and then punched him and won the fight. Now that I think of it, I wish he would have.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 2, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever happend to malcolm in the middle?
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I think he turned 30
isn’t that what happens to all those shows?
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 2, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Most just turn to meth
Then flicker out
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We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
flicker out my balls!
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 2, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 2, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont eat and I dont sleep
Till I’ve got the cleanest house on the street
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We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
Someone stretched out her head?
Seriously, you know she’s up for anything and probably still gets fat residuals.
it's a bump-it
Im so sad I know this information.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 2, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, it’s the whole package. The bump-it just gives her a horn.
by Rufford on Sep 2, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't be. Infomericials at 3 am are the shiiiiiiiit
Because of them I am now HUGE between the legs
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by II SMASH II on Sep 2, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Slice vs.Toney
This is a fight that’s made for Strikeforce.Neither one of these guys have anything left,but people will tune in to watch.
by TERRENCEFROMSOUTHEAST on Sep 2, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions
Slice vs.Toney
If Strikeforce gets this fight they must air it on CBS.
by TERRENCEFROMSOUTHEAST on Sep 2, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
I'd love this to happen
Because the UFC would counterprogram (hopefully with a live show) and I’d probably watch that instead of that disaster.
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What if it was Batista vs Toney
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by Thats It For you! on Sep 2, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I love this fight.
Does Toney have to power to KO Kimbo in one shot? It’s possible. Does Kimbo have a takedown besides the KIMBOPLEX™ and does he have enough submission knowhow to do finish it on the ground? Unlikely.
I’ll take Toney by KO in the only winnable fight MMA fight available.
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it's gonna be an exciting fight
for the first 3 minutes, then who knows what will happen
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by SSreporters on Sep 2, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
where’s the clip of Kimbo and Houston right after their fight?
by dreamers_12345 on Sep 2, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
We know what will happen. I don’t want to revisit the Ultimate Fighter: Heavyweights season.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 2, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bad fight for Kimbo.
Imagine Toney against a (mainly) stand-up fighter like Pat Barry or Cro Cop. Now that would be sick.
I'm sick of hearing this.
Toney should do the right thing and RETIRE from boxing and MMA. Don’t give him high level strikers who would cripple his legs.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
by SSreporters on Sep 2, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bad fight for Kimbo?
Kimbo demolished Ray Mercer. Ray is one hell of a lot more dangerous than James Toney AND Kimbo has three more years of training under his belt. Kimbo would finish Toney early and take no damage doing it.
Agreed.
I have to imagine Ferguson would take Toney down and finish him inside of the first round.
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His real name isn't Kimbo...
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 2, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no problem with Toney fighting on smaller shows
Its where he should of started in the first place, he will never turn into a world beater but could make serious coin in 2 or 3 years time fighting other freaks, random scrubs and up and comers.
Making your mma debut in a UFC Co main event is fucking silly no matter how you cut it.
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was not his MMA debut
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 2, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
kimbo beats toney, no problem
he can defend a punch, not worry about takedowns, knees, or kicks. He’ll close the distance, clinch, knee, takedown, and maybe even pull off a crucifix, since he’s so experienced with it.
Being overrated is overrated.
Nah. Losing to a Greco Roman Olympic alternate with 13 years top class MMA experience on the ground is one thing, Kimbo is another matter all together! If Toney lost to Kimbo in any form of combat sport he should never be allowed to leave his house ever again! Toney by 1st round KO.
Strikeforce on CBS could flipping nail this
Use two weeks prior to the event to do a 2-part mini-documentary on the fighters, getting real fuckin’ melancholy and personal and being all “Yo so Toney is the falling star, Kimbo, he’s the rising star… and man… it’s like Toney sees himself in Kimbo, he sees where he used to be.”
Such great potential for amazing fight lead up. To the point where the actual capabilities of the fighters doesn’t matter! That’s the important bit – never let the casual viewer know that Kimbo and Toney are not very good at MMA. Make it about the personality clash and their stories.
I’ts nice that Toney wants to keep at it, and I think it shows perhaps a dedication that people didn’t think was there. Be that as it may he was just turrrible, and considering his age and “mass” I don’t think there will be much room for improvement, at least not past a point of him only being able to hang with empty cans and dudes so washed up they can’t even tie their own shoes anymore.
As far as Toney vs Kimbo, considering the work Kimbo did on Mercer I can only imagine that up against Toney even Kimbo will come out looking like GSP…a larger…blacker…tattoed GSP…with arthritic knees…and male patter baldness…and a black rug growing on his chest shaped like an arrow pointing directly to his weak spot.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
At $750K+ per fight...
… I’d want to keep going as well. And I’m pretty sure I’d defend the heel pick better.
by loydb on Sep 2, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kimbo wins easily. Kimboplex → GnP to stoppage (or submission)
Also, stop suggesting that Toney fights a good kickboxer! Did you not see his stance? He will be legkicked to death very fast, with a resulting TKO from ref having mercy or additional GnP once he can’t get up anymore.
James Toney is 42 years old, out of shape and over the hill. He’s also not some kind of magical KO god where everyone goes to sleep as soon as he touches their chin, that’s just what UFC marketing machine wanted you to believe. Add in non-existent TDD and ground game, poor stance (for MMA), and you have someone who will lose to everyone who does anything else than just straight boxing with him (like leg kicks, takedowns, submissions).
Exactly why I say let Toney fight Barry
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by slapjaw ackrite on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Maybe this time he will bring in Sensei Speakman rather than his flunky. Why not? If Steven Segal could lead Anderson Silva to victory, there is no reason that Jeff Speakman can’t do the same for James Toney.
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