Cro Cop Still Has to Pass Exam to Fight at UFC 119
by Nate Wilcox on Sep 19, 2010 3:47 PM EDT
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As I suspected, a rumor putting out this much smoke had to contain some fire. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic was poked in the eye in his last full day of training before traveling to the U.S. for UFC 119. Initial reports from Croatian news sites that he was out of the fight appear to have been over blown, but at the same time, the initial claims of Cro Cop and the UFC that he will be fine are also premature.
Anyone who claimed that Cro Cop wasn't hurt at all and that the stories were just empty rumors is either a liar or was utterly misinformed.
Dave Meltzer (subscription required) talked to Dana White about the Cro Cop situation:
Regarding Mirko Cro Cop, he was poked in the eye a few days ago in sparring and has blood in his eye, which looks bad. He said Cro Cop contacted the company immediately, and said his opthamologist cleared him for Saturday night's UFC 119 main event with Frank Mir.
He also said Cro Cop's doctor sent X-rays to the UFC showing no breaks and the doctors in Las Vegas who looked at the X-rays also felt Cro Cop would be able to fight, but White said as soon as Cro Cop lands in Indianapolis, he's going to be given a battery of eye tests.
As I posted earlier I was amazed at so many sites being willing to blithely post that the fight would go on based on the assessment of Cro Cop's camp and Dana White.
The only people who can say authoritatively whether or not Cro Cop will be able to fight Frank Mir this coming Saturday are the Indiana authorities and they won't even see Filipovic until tomorrow.
Anyone who followed the Ray Mercer situation at King of the Cage this weekend should know that it is not the fighters and promoters who decide which fighters are healthy enough to fight. Only the proper state authorities can make that determination. Until Indiana authorities examine Cro Cop and make their determination nothing is final. All we know is that Cro Cop WAS injured and that he and his doctors expect that he will be able to fight on Saturday.
Cross your fingers fight fans, UFC 119 NEEDS Mirko Cro Cop to be cleared to fight.
UPDATE: Cro Cop spoke to Fighters Only (HT BE member Horselover Fat):
"It was the very last minute of the very last round of the very last sparring," CroCop told Fighters Only staff writer John Joe O'Regan today. "We were sparring in UFC gloves and my sparring partner - who is about 120 kilos, Croatia's best thai boxer - he poked me in the eye. The pain was like... I cant even describe it, the pain was so big I thought he had blinded me.
...
"I went to see a doctor and he advised that the eye should be rested minimum two weeks. But I have made a commitment to the UFC and a commitment to the fans, so there is no question of backing out of the fight. I do not want to let anyone down, I know they could not find a replacement for me at this short notice and many fans have already bought tickets for the show."
CroCop is currently having to wear an eye-gauze and has a saline solution to use on the injured eye, which requires further examination but appears to have suffered a severe abrasion to the cornea. CroCop says his vision is "almost normal" from the eye and "I hope it could be back to normal in a week".
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I can understand people taking Barry and Dana at their word (I mean fans). I think the media should've kept investigating (a couple sites did)
The worst thing IMO was the shit people were giving Frank Mir’s wife when she said (before Dana admitted it) that Crocop was injured and Frank had been given a call. So SOMEONE in the UFC knew. Anyway, Mrs. Mir was labeled everything but the Son of Sam.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
yeah i meant to give her a shout out but couldn't find her tweet
when i went back to look for it
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Eye injuries
There seems to be a lot of eye injuries as of late.
She deleted it
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
She said everyone said they were hurt before they fought Frank
I pointed out that neither Shane nor Brock had any such excuses
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 19, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair
she said something along the lines of “oh look! Another one of Mir’s opponents using an injury as an to discredit Frank’s win!” as if to say that Mirko was using it as a preemptive excuse. I don’t think people were upset about her saying something about an injury, more the way she said it.
Frank said in an interview that he was spending his weekends going to Disneyland with his kids
to make up for Cro Cop’s short training camp
Didn't he get a nasty cut before the Barry fight?
I mean it’s good that Cro Cop finally has training partners that push him again, but why in the hell do they spar so hard so close to the fight? Seems like a risky move to me.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
Cro Cop beat the everloving shit out of that guy once upon a time.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 19, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Went to the cemetery
and threw some dirt on the grave.
Then he pulled a hilarious prank
in which he accused Mauro Ranallo of talking shit about him before the KO.
It was a very fruitful fight for him.
"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn
That last punch there is so funny, because everyone can see it’s totally unnecessary. It’s like Mirko is thinking “ah what the hell, why not”
by Horselover Fat on Sep 20, 2010 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha people hate on Mauro but his call during that fight was priceless.
“and that’s another one just to say thanks for coming by Dos Caros Jr.” or something like that.
by Mr Pulla on Sep 20, 2010 12:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Worst case scenario...
…Cro Cop isn’t cleared. I wonder if Joe Silva is making a round of calls right now to see if anyone might available to replace him. Who could do it?
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
by mburtoni on Sep 19, 2010 4:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Any heavyweight who's not injured or fighting soon.
It’s easier to find replacements for heavyweights because they don’t have to worry about cutting weight.
Anthony Perosh anyone?
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by B-A-N-A-N-A-S on Sep 19, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I can hear Mike Goldberg trying to sell that fight already
“Perosh actually had his last fight against Cro Cop and almost thought about hitting him Joe. If he could almost think about hitting the legendary striker in Cro Cop, I can only IMAGINE what he has in store for Frank Mur.”
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by lowellthehammer on Sep 19, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Mir vs. Sylvia II on short notice
I like it
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They’d have to rig the scales to get Timmeh under 265.
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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Sep 19, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Without seeing the eye, it is difficult to tell what “blood in the eye means”
It could be a Hyphema…if it is, he will not be cleared.
If it is a subconjunctival hemorrhage, he will be cleared. A subconjunctival hemorrhage is far more likely and common.
Wags
yeah
my bet is that he’ll be cleared, but I just wanted to remind everyone that just because Dana says so don’t make it so.
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From the Fighters Only article from yesterday where they talked with Cro-cop about this:
“CroCop is currently having to wear an eye-gauze and has a saline solution to use on the injured eye, which requires further examination but appears to have suffered a severe abrasion to the cornea. CroCop says his vision is "almost normal" from the eye and "I hope it could be back to normal in a week".”
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem! I think I mentioned it in one of the previous articles about this as well, feeling you ought to pick up on it. It does paint a little more grim picture than what Dana & co are letting on. Hoping for the best, but even if he does get cleared my expectations for the fight have been severely lowered.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
I thought about a snarky caption about Popeye the Croatian Man but I let it go.
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Who can say authoritatively that anyone is cleared to fight?
I might be confused, but don’t all fighters have to be cleared by local docs before they’d be allowed to fight? This sounds routine to me, not related to the eyepoke story.
I mean, Frank Mir also could be denied medical clearance for the fight, so no one can “authoritatively” say he’s going to fight until he is cleared in Indianapolis.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
You’re right, but then again most fighters don’t come in to those examinations with what could be a serious eye injury that has been reported in the media beforehand.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Something I've learned
People who entirely miss the point of something of an article/conversation, seem to spend the most energy responding.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m beginning to notice that trend too.
lol
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by Nate Wilcox on Sep 19, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This is all looking really bad for Cro Cop. It would be a miracle if he beat Mir — and if he does pull it off I’ll be jumping up and down.
Let’s hope he doesn’t get poked in the eye from Mir during their fight (or punched in the face, too)!
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
Or kneed in the groin, a la Kongo & Ubereem.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
If you punch Mir,
you have a legitimate chance to make him curl into the fetal position.
“I’m one of the most dangerous men in the world. I carry a gun and a knife at all times.”- Frank Mir, a month before Tan Dan woke him up from his Carwin-induced coma
It just cracks me up how arrogant and deluded he is. I honestly believe pretty much any strong 300 lb man could beat him up. He can’t wrestle and responds terribly to being hit. Then he wins a fight, forgets all of this and declares himself a god.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s true, but Cro Cop’s been looking a bit slow. It would be awesome though if he could land some axe kicks on Mir. Those were awesome. I guess we shouldn’t count out Cro Cop.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
I'm optimistic
Cro Cop was slow compared to Barry, but Mir has looked really slow against Brock and even Shane Carwin. He can wrestle well enough to stay on his feet, IMO.
I’m not sure he’ll win, but Mir is one of the few guys he can out wrestle. It really comes down to how good Mir’s hands are. Mir’s definitely not bad, but he doesn’t have the type of power and diverse striking Barry did. This is one of the few big name fights Mirko can win at this point, IMO.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 20, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
What cracks me up is the lenght Mir haters go to try and discredit him there is always an excuse and a justification why he beat someone that was suppsoed to crush him and if he beats up CC the same thing will happen.
But luckily people can see past the bullshit and realise that the guy who responds badly to being hit by Brock and Carwin is one of the best HW’s in the world and can see blind hate for what it is.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Sep 20, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Where do you rank Marcio Cruz and Ian Freeman among HW's?
How about Brandon Vera?
For the record, I don’t hate Mir at all. I think he’s pretty amusing. He’s a character. He also has some valid points at times. Most of the time though, he rattles on with delusional narcissistic rants; usually about someone he can’t beat.
I didn’t have to go to any lengths to ‘discredit’ Mir or justify anything. You should seriously consider counseling, dude. Your perspective seems like you think the whole world is against you.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 20, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I get it you’re one of those people right? that claim that you don’t hate a guy you find him funny when in reality your posts show your bias and bitterness towards the guy. You know at least I would respect your opinion if you were a hater because then we’d be clear of the bullshit.
And I have no clue where you get the stuf about me thinking the whole world is against me, what is it with people reaching and making these ridiculous claims all the time now?.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Sep 20, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
The point is you tend to come off as unnecessarily aggressive or negative.
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
The funny part is I honestly appreciate Mir’s fighting style/ability and his character. He’s obviously one of the best HWs in the world. I just think he’s a delusional narcissist. If anyone knows anything about delusional narcissism, its me.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 20, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
So you're one of those people?
That kind that has a serious comprehension problem and practices selective reading. You are one of the most hateful, hypocritical and downright pathetic people in the world. I can’t believe you have the audacity to talk about people reaching, then call me bitter toward Frank Mir. I don’t even understand the context. Why would I be bitter toward Mir? Did he screw me over? Do you mean jealous or envious? Those are punk ass traits. Only a complete loser even views the world that way. The fact is, I want everyone to do well. Even an insecure jerk like you. That way there’d be a little less negativity floating around. I honestly wish someone didn’t have to lose each fight. I’d like to see all fighters succeed.
Do you really have no clue why so many people think you’re an angry, unbalanced person? If you were anymore defensive and insecure you’d be on reality TV.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 20, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Please let CC's eye be okay.
Not only for his own health, but I really want to see him and Mir go at it. (Mir will win, btw).
Mirko
would just have to fight a la Frank Dux in Bloodsport. LOL. Seriously, if a replacement would be needed, I think it would be Cap’n America Randy Couture. Dude didn’t even break a sweat beating Toney.
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by Rod Mapada on Sep 19, 2010 8:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Couture wouldnt...
He’d need more training against Mir. Bet the dude wasn’t even training BJJ defense for the fight against Toney. Hi bads ako i2. hahaha
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