Chael Sonnen Fails His UFC 117 Drug Test, Positive for PEDs
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 19, 2010 5:37 AM EDT
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Sherdog.com breaks the news that Chael Sonnen - known as the guy who came closest to dethroning Anderson Silva - had the help of performance-enhancing drugs that night:
According to California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer George Dodd, Chael Sonnen has been notified that he failed post-fight drug screening following his loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 117, which was held Aug. 7 at the Oracle Arena in Oakland, Calif.
... In a conversation the day before, Dodd declined to comment on the situation, other than answering that all fighters from UFC 117 had passed drugs-of-abuse scans, but that the commission was still waiting on performance-enhancing drug screens from the event.
Dodd did not state which banned substance was red-flagged, but with a clean drugs-of-abuse scan it is clear the positive test was for a performance-enhancing substance.
Silva's manager Ed Soares hits the nail on the head with his comment:
"If it’s true, I feel really bad for him," said Soares. "I know he did it to himself but it is really sad, he put on such a great performance that night. It is just a shame it will be tarnished."
Sonnen's pre-fight trash talk, coupled with his 24 minutes of dominating the champ, has brought him a ton of new fans and even netted him a high-profile rematch for early 2011. Even though he lost that bout, it was by far the best performance of his career, but that failed drug test tarnishes everything. He will likely get fined and suspended for this, making it likely that the fight gets postponed, or even canceled. Either way, even if the UFC decides to go on with the bout, the rematch certainly loses a lot of its luster.
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CSAC says Chael Sonnen tests positive for PED’s after Anderson Silva bout. Does this mean he wants testicular cancer?
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 19, 2010 5:37 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Man I thought I was original
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions
it was probably some mexican guy that tested positive
by mmaaddict on Sep 19, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Sorry friend
you’ve been beaten to the punch…repeatedly.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Yeah, but mmaaddict is smarter than them. His post will be the first time most people opening this post will read it.
I couldn't write it's so delicious..the schadenfreude
Chaeley Joel Osment: I see P.E.Ds
Hahahaha.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 5:41 AM EDT reply actions
A bit of a rushjob, but oh well
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Sigh.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
by Sam Cupitt on Sep 19, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
A direct quote from Sonnen:
I didn’t know Wheaties were a PED.
"You just got your asses whipped..by a bunch of god damn nerds..NERDSS!!"
by Lambda Lambda Lambda on Sep 19, 2010 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions
How I imagine your household after hearing the news
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
by Fake Emcee on Sep 19, 2010 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
BL: Oh SHIT!
ML: (opens eyes) Huh?
BL: Ok, I’ll be quiet
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The very first thing I thought:
My boy BL is going to lose his shit when he reads this. Its gotta be like a holiday. Like Christmas, except with Chael shattering his dreams.
Enjoy, my friend. You earned it. Everyone else wanted to wash his dick for him last week. You had the self control to keep your panties on. Abstinence. For that I commend you. I look forward to reading the multitude of Chael is a loud mouth cheater articles that I’m sure you’ve already began.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You know what, I really don't have much to say. I'll let others handle all of that
But it’s funny. First Fedor, then Carwin, now Sonnen. Lesson of the year? Stay on my good side. Hahaha, I’m kidding. Or am I? Hulk Hogan, we comin for ya *!!
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myQpnrD_kp0
I still don’t see what was so bad about it, now switch Hogan in place of Booker and then we have a bit of a problem.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Yeah but this was 1995 WCW, the Southern brand
They didn’t say “nigga” on TV like they do now
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh, I feel it coming up now...
PRO WRESTLING!!!
But anyway, I just giggled when I noticed the “Wesley Types” moniker.
Anyway, this is the last time I can remember the n word being utilized in wrestling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXBnEabG43s
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
I've owed Vince McMahon a kick in the balls for years, almost two decades
and every year it gets bigger and bigger.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Like your vagina
BOOM, roasted!
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Yes, you're right. I mean I guess technically your mom's vagina is mine
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
You tried to model the one the doctor gave you after hers?
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by Fake Emcee on Sep 19, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Oh shit, I didn't see this
This retort fails for one reason, I would’ve had to fuck your mom to know what her pussy looks like.
But I know the BLaters loved it. It’s an easy way to get your comments greened.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
For some reason
Whenever I joke about you, people always jump in to defend you. I always think “where are all these people when all the haters are actually bagging on him?”
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yo darkie ass is hardly any darker than me.
Does S.C. stand for ‘slightly colored’?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
With all due respect
John Cena is his nigga.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Big Time
He probably calls him boy
by SilverNBlackZach! on Sep 19, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, no sense in beating dead horse
Not when you can watch the media that created him devour him whole.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
We'll see...though I doubt Heavy.com has much to say
WINK WINK
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
He might get the Carwin pass.
Both guys probably distanced themselves away from the title. So at least we get that satisfaction.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Carwin had the luxury of 4 years distance
Plus the Chael train was in full steam and Toney hype too.
Chael is in the midst of 2 boring shows and Lesnar still over a month away.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
So he will be crucified?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, it is my personal opinion that many mma "news" sites and writers how can I say
Tend to turn the other way when it comes to painting the UFC in a possibly negative light, yet these same sites will aggressively lash out at Strikeforce and other organizations. I heard more about those fucking oxygen cans (which turned out to be nothing) than you did about Carwroids.
You heard more about Strikeforce THINKING of signing Batista than you did about the UFC actually signing a fat out of shape MMA bum like Toney and promoting him more than their champion and paying him more than the champion times 10.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
lol.
If you are going to divide the world into “news sites” and “blogs” you should do some more research. The oxygen can drama was started, pushed, and overblown by the blogs. Sherdog, the main mma news site didn’t mention the oxygen cans at all, and junkie only mentioned it in an “ask the doctor” article, and when the commission said they were approved.
As for the negative stuff, again, lol. Sherdog loves to stir up shit about the UFC. And for comparing Batista vs Toney? that’s just the UFC being good at handling the media, and strikeforce being bad at it. Even if you are going to buy the theory that the Toney thing was planned from 2006, the UFC kept a lid on it, and didn’t let it out until they wanted it out. The Batista thing was more overblown because they had Batista talking about it on TMZ, and then all their talking heads giving the story legs by their talking.
by Phildo on Sep 19, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not dividing "blogs" and "news sites", they are all the same
As for your 2nd paragraph, it has nothing to do with “media handling” and everything to do with not wanting to call the UFC on the bullshit of having James Toney fight for them in a co-main event just to satisfy ego.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s because if you don’t like the UFC you’re not a true MMA fan.
It has nothing to do any kind of stranglehold on the media. Is this understood? Good, I thought so. Now be a good writer and take these press passes.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't random. It was a racial draft. We had just drafted Tiger Woods. It was a coup.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Crap?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I use it as a term of endearment, your crap is my crap, my crap is your crap, from California, to New york island, from the redwood forest, to the gulfstream waters, this crap was made for you and me.
by DirtyML on Sep 19, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Goodbye fried rice, hello fried chicken.
Yo, I'm smokin herbals till it hurts you
I keep your daughter way out past her curfew
by TitanFan2K on Sep 19, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tiger Woods has lost all his sponsors
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh crap. Just when he was getting some traction…
Don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
Can't deal with the occasional boring fight? Let me introduce you to ROH.
Dear Mr. White - would it kill you to drop a few f-bombs less?
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Sep 19, 2010 5:42 AM EDT reply actions
Are you kidding??
This will make Chael an even bigger heel. Probably did it on purpose.
by MMAGuard on Sep 19, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
PRO WRESTLING!!!!!
:-)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
Yeah, sure…
Don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
Can't deal with the occasional boring fight? Let me introduce you to ROH.
Dear Mr. White - would it kill you to drop a few f-bombs less?
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Sep 19, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he probably took them on purpose, on that we agree.
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on Sep 19, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
You sure he didn't slip and land on a syringe?
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damn. to think that i was about to order the re-match so i can prove to my dad that silva is superior to sonnen.
Didn't he see the last few seconds of the bout?
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 19, 2010 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions
he went off to get lunch (I am in the Asia timezone), and therefore missed the fight ending submission.
I ribbed him about it for the next few weeks
BTW Anton
I work with so many Filipinos here in Kazakhstan, it’s not funny.
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by Lambda Lambda Lambda on Sep 19, 2010 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions
"Big deal everybody uses, he was just the one that got caught for it"
You just know somebody is likely to say it.
But really this was pretty shocking to hear, but at the same time I do hope it does help to decrease the amount of Chael Sonnen sperm-swapping going on around here.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
eww
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 20, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Shocked? Yes. Surprised? No.
Politicians are the biggest hypocrites of all.
Yo, I'm smokin herbals till it hurts you
I keep your daughter way out past her curfew
If he did do it
I am surprised he did it so foolishly, although that is the biggest danger of using the black market pharmacy – you never know what, and how much, you are really getting.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said in the fanpost of this…
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
you misspelled it.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 20, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Las drogas son mios
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
You're going to town with this aren't you?
That’s good. I’m glad I’m not the only person that hates him. I was starting to get disgusted with all the Chael love going around on this site.
Yo, I'm smokin herbals till it hurts you
I keep your daughter way out past her curfew
me too,
we’ll keep you guys updated, don’t worry. ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 19, 2010 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions
SHEEEEIT
Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.
by MarcoDos on Sep 19, 2010 6:00 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I don't know about that urine sample but I'm pretty sure it's hispanic.
Who knows maybe it was for something mild like ankle injury or something.
Food goes in here
damn.
bummer.
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WHAAAAAAT
I bet it was something he was taking for the flu…. this is weird.
Fucking drug tests, how do they work?
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by dancingChicken on Sep 19, 2010 6:15 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
He tested positive for
Crazy Pills!
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by Lambda Lambda Lambda on Sep 19, 2010 6:20 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Chael's bacne, first CLEAR back
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:20 AM EDT reply actions
Now...not so clear
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Nate
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Good cycle?
Who says it’s roids? It could be a diuretic.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Which are often used to mask...
and is why they are on the banned list too.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
I know
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I just am amazed that he obviously cycled poorly for a championship fight, it’s a matter of dates and time, not really an unadopted science that is unpredictable
He did a lot more PR than usual. Don’t want to condemn the guy, just throwing that out there.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Dear Heavens
did he have hives?
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
And
His hair is much darker…Should have used Pantene Pro-V!
From light brown to black….We were just pawns in his game. (sighs)
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by Lambda Lambda Lambda on Sep 19, 2010 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Calling it now
Chael said he had the flu, it’s probably something he was given for it that ended up showing up on the tests.
Something for the flu eh?
Yeah you’re probably right – him and the other 6 dozen pro athletes who’ve used that same bullshit excuse over and over and over again…
In 2010 any athlete who doesn’t know what they are putting in their body is either a damn fool, or a damn liar, plain and simple…
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by bloodsportmmadotcom on Sep 19, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m going with the latter, Chael is a politician after all :p
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
what? like by saying:
Here Chael, please use this syringe as it has lot’s of vitamins, but no roids, don’t worry…
carazy talk brother
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Not everything comes in a syringe. It could just be a lasix or something.
With Sherk I believe someone slipped him what ever he tested for, because passing a polygraph & voice stress test is a hard thing to do and he passed both of them.
I just don't buy the argument
you have to know what it is you are taking, and it’s your responsability to have people that you can trust around you so that they don’t jeopardize your career (if I was going to believe that scenario, which I don’t).
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
No they aren't
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Bullshit, yes they are.
So sick of people who say otherwise. Unless you have firsthand experience (I do), you really shouldn’t speak on the matter.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Sep 19, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The real problem is
With all black market drugs, you never really know what, or how much, is in there.
Having said that, there are a lot of drugs classified as PEDs that would not have truly enhanced performance in any way. Of course, if it is a steroid of some sort…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Big whoop
This changes nothing
Facts don't come with points of view.
by Robert Livingston on Sep 19, 2010 6:21 AM EDT reply actions
wouldnt matter
Facts don't come with points of view.
by Robert Livingston on Sep 19, 2010 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions
The significance is this, this is TWICE in a row the UFC narrowly avoids having a champion with PEDs tied to his name
First Carwin and now Sonnen. Who’s next BJ?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:24 AM EDT reply actions
I feel bad for Chael, not that he cheated, but the fact he took drugs that are so obvious to the commission when he easily could have been doing HGH or one of the other multitudes of harder to detect drugs to accomplish the same thing.
For shame Chael, if you are going to cheat, why get caught, when you can easily pay a few thousand more dollars and get something only detectable in blood, which the UFC won’t check for?
It could just be a diuretic and not roids.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Diuretics are typically for cutting weight or masking agents, both of which would be somewhat irrelevant to Chael considering he is probably only 195 pounds when he isnt in full swing.
Oh I'm not downplaying the significance, just offering an alternative to roids
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
And you do know that roids aren't just for size
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I know that yeah, just saying I can’t see Chael using an illegal substance to cut weight, but even as a placebo effect, roids can be an amazing advantage just to think and assume you have an advantage over someone due to an outside effect is a huge psychological victory, enter religion.
Use the diuretics to push the dirty urine out of your system faster
Not to cut weight
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah as a masking agent, but getting banned for a masking agent is like getting kicked out a strip club for just being crazy instead of crazy and perverted, chael is straight retard being an educated man and not knowing to take HGH when its impossible to detect on the UFC level, I am more mad at him for getting caught than actually cheating, which I guess is sad in a way.
Cost. Chael wasn't exactly raking in the big money before
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
To hinge your entire career on cheap easy to detect drugs(of any kind) seems like a terrible scenario coming into a championship fight, if this is true I can no longer cheer for this anti-hero.
Do you realize how many fighters are on steroids? A lot
Not all can afford HGH. Most are smart enough to cycle out.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
HGH is not as effective as the better steroids
Particularly on a short-term basis. And it is not that expensive any more.
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As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
Chael has said the he gets up to 220 before dieting.
When was the last time you could count on something Chael said?
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That is what I thought before too
Diuretics are typically for cutting weight or masking agents, both of which would be
somewhat irrelevant to Chael considering he is probably only 195 pounds when he isnt in full swing.
I’ll have to see if I can find the link, but I believe Chael said he was (or would be) about 207 in the cage.
As a long-time weight cutting wrestler he should have no need for RX diuretics, unless something went wrong during his cut…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Quote mark fail...should have been
Diuretics are typically for cutting weight or masking agents, both of which would be somewhat irrelevant to Chael considering he is probably only 195 pounds when he isnt in full swing.
The rest remains valid in my original reply, although I should add that using diuretics as a masking agent really doesn’t apply in this case. They can shorten the excretion time by a few days, but the normal weight cutting process would accomplish the same thing.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
the guy potentially puts the work into placing plants in an audience for his canned responses, but he can’t figure how to make it look like he pissed clean?
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
I thought the same thing, but
It would explain his limitless cardio, fighting at an intensity level of 9.5 for 23 minutes.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions
And here I just thought his white… work ethic was able to thwart Silva’s black… athleticism.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
by Fake Emcee on Sep 19, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
You know he's blue collar, that's the new code word
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
No joke, had to drive to Long Beach and back with the folks yesterday
and was forced to listen to Blue Collar Radio on XM the whole way back, it was like driving through an episode of Hee Haw for an hour. It would be Jeff Foxworthy and a bunch of other redneck comics, and then all of the sudden a George Lopez clip gets played and I’m thinking “is this really what the kind of audiences that listens to this wants to hear, a guy who’s comedy routine is 40% in Spanish?”
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
By folks
do you mean police?
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would explain the use of a plunger…
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
It really doesn't.
I mean, maybe if they used the handle end this time.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah for real,
The hell ya family listening to BCR for?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know my Dad has weird taste in comedy
and that includes a variety of hacks.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
I can't lie
some of it was pretty funny.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Ron White (how Ironic) is the only one I find funny
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes they'll mix it up and play dudes without accents
They actually played a bit from a guy that was making fun of a Texas audience at his show for supporting George Bush and David Duke, I was surprised.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Ron White is by far my favorite comedian these days...
The guy is just fucking hilarious…
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As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I got this friend
and he kinda likes dudes a little. Alright a lot. What should he do if he’s attracted to a friend he met last summer but hasn’t talked to in a while but really has feelings for?
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
You make me wonder sometimes bro...
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Y'all some semper fi motherfuckers in here. Where Cheese go to enlist?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You the one who's 'dad has weird taste in comedy'.
I’m just saying.
One time, I was chilling with my other girl and her cousin was like “have you guys ever accidentally had it slip in her butt?” We both looked at her like “accidentally, huh?”. We cracked up because we just started having butt sex around that time.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
when your chick likes it in the butt
her period becomes known as ‘anal week’.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Naw son
When yo girls on her period it’s “She sleeping outside week.”
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bears can smell the menstration
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by Austin Martin on Sep 19, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Then I guess she'll be getting some exercise too while she's out there.
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by Fake Emcee on Sep 19, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
huh?
You let your girl sleep inside?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Who else is gonna scare off the boogie man in the middle of the night? Strangely enough he carries the same plunger around that those cops do…
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
I just realized this thread is going to be read by a lot of people.
Thats why you don’t post this late. Or early.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
“You ever been in the showers and you see the suds roll down the crack of another man’s ass…”
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Seriously though
Do you have any idea how hard it is to accidentally slip into an anus? You probably do.
Then again you might not…. hehehehehe(I’m calling your penis small)
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
or your anus large.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course you can't accidently slip into an anus
you’re obviously aiming there with the plunger in your hand.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
I guess you had to be there.
“you guys ever accidentally have butt sex?”
It was just bizarre and a little cute. Like “aw, Sammy Jo likes butt sex.” Especially considering she used to blow me, too.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
While she was blowing you, you ever accidently slip it into the anus? Cause that would be a hard one to explain.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
You have to be creative
“I had a terrible cheese grating accident as a young boy.”
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the best answer is
“Kinda hard to be accidental without lube…. and with lube, kinda hard to be accidental too.”
besides Carlos Mencia
G. Lopez is the worst comic living today.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 19, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
So true
Blue collar and all-american both mean white.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, Jon Jones is pretty all-american. So was Apollo Creed.
Anonymity breeds contempt.
by Michael Warren on Sep 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
So was O.J.
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
by donkeypunch on Sep 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess only white folks can look 'all-american'.
Black folks never get called that based on appearance.
OJ might have been the ‘whitest’ black man in America before 1995.
Although, I don’t think Jones is all-american. He’s just a self righteous bible-thumper(who has a kid out of marriage). Apollo Creed was flashy fictional character who wore a flag as shorts.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Steroids would go more to hinder than help his cardio unless he was a long-term user in which case it would have little effect on his cardio.
Something like EPO would absolutely help his cardio, as would old school (and undetectable in any standard test) blood doping.
I’m not sure if EPO testing is done regularly in MMA in Cali as the urine test is fairly expensive (urine testing is actually the only reliable EPO test, the blood test is simply a screening test to determine whether to give the more expensive urine test or not).
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As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a lot of compounds that increase endurance. That’s why all the Tour d’ France guys got popped.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 20, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
This is just really fucking disappointing though, because I was really looking forward to the rematch, now I just want to see Chael get expunged from history.
Yes I used the verb expunge.
yeah
I was looking forward to the rematch as well, if it doesn’t happen after he gets suspended (which means it will probably not happen), people will still shit on Silva about being weak against wrestlers, and besides Chael, MW lacks good wrestlers. This really sucks, I wanted Silva to answer all the critics in his rematch. I’m sure Andy and Soares are pissed at this too, money wise, I’m sure this would have been huge on sales.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
The bottom of that caption should have really read
SAME SHIT. DIFFERENT YEAR.
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makes sense if the fight still happens to put Edgar/Maynard 2, or a Brock card.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 19, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
^this
Thats exactly what i was thinking.
I hope its belfort i would love to see silva getting knocked out, okami is just like chael, not as good in wrestling but better subdefense
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by robinhorobson on Sep 19, 2010 7:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh god DAMNIT
Can’t these people at least learn to fucking cycle properly. YOU ONLY GET TESTED ONCE EVERY FOUR MONTHS. HOW HARD CAN IT BE.
"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn
While Chael was out running his mouth, he forgot to cycle off
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
it's a sad day when we root for it to be painkillers or coke though
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by Austin Martin on Sep 19, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude
Nobody is OFFERING you painkillers.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
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by jemaleddin on Sep 19, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not painkiller or coke
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn.
Wow.
Damn.
After all the shit I talked about Chael in the lead-up to the fight, and all the shit I gave him after the fight, I was starting to build up some respect for him because of a) the classy interviews he gave, and b) the fact that he said he was out when he tapped (put a different spin on things).
Now I don’t even know what to think.
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He'll scream conspiracy.
He’ll deny it til he’s blue in the face. Guaranteed.
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by Beartrap on Sep 19, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Just wait till the likes of Frost1 and Nightwhistler show up, then it’ll be a party.
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hell yeah
Its gonna be awesome. Damn. I wish BE was skype so I could see the tears of anger streaming down their faces, as they fathom what sorcery could have done this.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahahahaha, that dude Nightwhistler crying like that gay dude from Youtube
LEAVE CHAEL SONNEN ALONE. HE’S A HUMAN BEING
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes him
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
His name is Chris Crocker (or at least, a stage name)
And apparently the gay thing is serious.
I've been on a plane from Lithuania all day
Funny that he hasn’t commented yet.
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by Dave Strummer on Sep 19, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to say...
That it’s interesting that this happened in California. This is the same place that nabbed Sherk, Barnett, Gracie, and Shamrock.
Of course all of these guys have refuted their tests so you’re left wondering:
1). Are they all f**king lying?
2). Does the CSAC have a much more stringent/thorough policy than other states?
3). Is something wrong with the commission testing that renders false positives?
by funkywanderer on Sep 19, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
dude this has not trully been confirmed yet for one thing how many times does sherdog get this crap wrong
Shhhh, he's clearly a subscriber to the Whitean doctrine that Sherdog, like Fedor, sucks
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
WTF Are You Talking About
Sherdog.com didnt test Chael Sonnen, the California State Athletic Commission did, and if their report is wrong the Sonnen just became a millionaire per the massive lawsuit to follow. Stop being so naive and wake up to the FACT that PED use is rampant throughout MMA and it touches the highest levels of every organization…
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by bloodsportmmadotcom on Sep 19, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
This. just. sucks.
Now i’m resorted to heckling him on his facebook wall, much like i do to Hasheem Thabeet from time to time.
I’ve got big walnuts. Gorilla nuts.
hilarity. what do you rip on Thabeet for?
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 20, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
even enhanced humans cannot defeat Anderson
by JeremyShane on Sep 19, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
What if he DID win though? Imagine the shitstorm
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by Austin Martin on Sep 19, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think I can even comprehend that level of fecal rain.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I could
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by Fake Emcee on Sep 19, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
There’d be at least…. three times that much chocolate rain.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
impressive post-to-pic time reaction time, btw.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Who knows what crazy shit you’re able to find on the fly on internet? I found another picture, but let’s just say I probably wouldn’t be posting here by tomorrow if I had chosen it.
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
Fecal rain
is my new catch phrase BTW. So nobody better steal it. I don’t care if you look out your window and see turds down pouring. You better call it dooky drops or something.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Dooky drops
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Poo poo precipitation
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
by donkeypunch on Sep 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew something wasn't right....
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by Damon O. on Sep 19, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Hot damn
you are magic my friend.
"The fight between Overeem and Rogers probably resembled Overeem’s prom night, with the overwhelmed opposition succumbing to a brutal pounding eventually leading to submission in the face of agony and a stay in the hospital."
The Magic Man
Now you see. Now you don’t.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The key is timing......
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by Damon O. on Sep 19, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
WTF did I just see?
insta-rec
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
explanation demanded
I’ve got big walnuts. Gorilla nuts.
by Austin Martin on Sep 19, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought I've seen this footage in a documentary a while back
ins’t this the plane that is faster than sound?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Good point
Could be the Prandtl–Glauert singularity
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found the footage I was thinking of
it’s a bit different, so my bad :p
probably not the same type of stuff, since it has a certain cloud that surrounds it
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
A lot
of military planes are faster than sound.
I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!
Never seen a camo tech like THAT before
Sounds like bad focus or Photoshop to me; the main “camo” technology that I (as a civilian) know of is reducing radar cross section (RCS) — aka “your apparent size on radar.”
If you ever hear of “supercruise,” that’s when an aircraft has the ability to go supersonic without having to use afterburner to do so.
Damn that's HATEful
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
My reaction... basically...
You have to beat the legend, in order to become the LEGEND
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by chopstickthugz on Sep 19, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
whats that from? looks funny
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 20, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah man
cheal would get destroyed faster because hes a cheater now
Sonnen Hows the McDonald's Black belt ?
by TheSpiderWin on Sep 19, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
My big theory
Like most comedians he ended up with a coke problem
I'm not
It was pretty easy to see Chael has been completely full of shit for a long time.
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
by donkeypunch on Sep 19, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Turns out this got leaked on the MMAJunkie forum last week....
by adearaujo on Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:12 pm
Heard the drug tests came back today and Sonnen tested positive for illegal substance. No more Silva vs Sonnen II. you’ll hear it in the news in about a week
http://forums.mmajunkie.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&p=808997
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by Pandanus on Sep 19, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hmmm
They waited until Sunday to release this…
Hoping We Would Be Dsitracted By the NFL
Not a coincidence the story breaks on the slowest day of the MMA newscycle when there are no major shows happening… probably hoping the fantasy football fanboys would be too busy to notice the loudest top middleweight contender in UFC history is just another drug cheat
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by bloodsportmmadotcom on Sep 19, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah by Bloody Elbow and similar sites, which only reach hardcore fans.
Yeah some mainstream outlets will push the story but it was definitely good timing to minimize the damage.
by Polyhedron on Sep 19, 2010 12:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure they simply waited
Until the confirmation tests were in and everyone had been notified.
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As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 19, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
we’ve all become kind of numb to this sort of thing
the general consesus seems to be that he’s dumb for not cycling the roids right and not that he’s dumb for using the steroids.
i suppose it’s because we’ve come to accept that almost all fighters are using steroids
i’m not condoning his idiocy just stating an observation
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by Johnathan Willis on Sep 19, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
consensus not consesus
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 19, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
MMAJunkie had a pretty good rundown of his growing acne problems
I know some pictures were posted above but I thought these were good for comparison. I also realize that it doesn’t necessarily mean anything, just food for thought.
UFC 104:
UFC 109:
UFC 117:
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Not when he gets payed to wear them..
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Or to use the Fleshlight and promote it on his podcast.
Never really notice Sonnen’s acne problem before. Man it’s disgusting.
Look at that physique change. Not saying, just saying.
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Life Advice From Chael Sonnen Part I
"When you screw up, you have to own it, That stuff really gets under my skin. Take Shane Carwin. Shane Cawrin did a number of things and he gave himself lactic acidosis. He cheated, he did drugs, and he gave himself lactic acidosis. Well, instead of saying ‘Hey listen, I cheated and gave myself lactic acidosis, don’t be like me.’ He actually made himself the victim and then went out and made threads from this ‘Hey, poor me, let’s find a cure for lactic acidosis campaign instead of just coming clean and saying, ‘Look, here’s what I did, I screwed myself up, and I hope people learn from my mistakes.’ You just watch these guys and can’t help but think, God, what a fraud.."
— Chael Sonnen, Summer 2010
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by bloodsportmmadotcom on Sep 19, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
I’m hoping you’re already aware of this but that quote came a Black Lesnar “satire” post, based on the legit quote you posted below.
Hahahahahaha
It’s STILL working.
Satire, so delicious
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If people don’t understand it’s satire, I would argue it’s NOT working. Unless you willfully do it in such a way that it’s hard for people to discern, in order to trick them and give you some extra attention. Then yeah, it’s working.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If people can't understand that it's satire when it's clearly labeled such, then that makes it funnier
I enjoy rubes believing obvious satire. Not all satire is “Oh hahaha, that’s funny”. Sometimes the laughs come at other’s expenses.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
The good stuff is too real to be fake. Like Colbert. I have conservative buddies who quote him, or refer to his show as a serious. Even politicians can’t tell he’s fucking with him.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 19, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The small category tag “satire” really is easy to miss, people usually don’t read that portion of the page. I think the fact that WKR tries to be both a serious news and opinion site, with a few poor satire pieces thrown in, confuses people. You also have to remember not everyone is familiar with your name and the kind of articles you sometime produce. Also not everyone will have read the original quotes which you distorted in this case.
I feel the combination of these things makes it understandable that a few people will fail to recognize they’re being duped, and that is in no way a good thing when they continue to spread. As a writer for that site you should take some responsibility and not blame other peoples stupidity when your comedy fails.
For instance, Chael Sonnen has said a lot of stupid and weird shit, and if you hadn’t read his original quote about Lance Armstrong, it’s not strange to assume he actually could have made those remarks about Shane Carwin lactic acidosis situation. Jon Fitch injecting blackness (which I liked and found funny btw), is a much more obvious joke and isn’t in the same need of clarification.
You see what I’m getting at? By all means, continue with your satire if that’s something you like to do. But in my opinion you really should in some way make it more clear to your readers when you are doing a satire piece, as they don’t always by the content themselves make that entirely obvious.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You would have a point if you didn't see the "source"
I linked to the “source”.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No, my point still stands, as it seems many people around here will typically not check the linked source and just dig in on the quote presented to them.
Anyway, I feel I’ve expressed my opinion on the matter as best I can, it’s up to you what to do with it (or not).
by Horselover Fat on Sep 19, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I get what you're saying
But if you’re foolish not to check sources and not to see a tag or not read the comments, then I don’t know what to say.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
As a matter of fact, I just plugged in a line into Google
And it’s HILARIOUS to see how widespread it got
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Like this one who actually posts the quotes side by side and didn't make the connection
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Life Advice From Chael Sonnen Part II
Take Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong did a number of things and he gave himself cancer. He cheated, he did drugs, and he gave himself cancer. Well, instead of saying ‘Hey listen, I cheated and gave myself cancer, don’t be like me.’ He actually made himself the victim and then went out and profited something like $15 million dollars from this ‘Hey, poor me, let’s find a cure for cancer’ campaign instead of just coming clean and saying, ‘Look, here’s what I did, I screwed myself up, and I hope people learn from my mistakes.’ You just watch these guys and can’t help but think, God, what a fraud.
— Chael Sonnen, Summer 2010
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by bloodsportmmadotcom on Sep 19, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
c'mon son
"How do you shoot the devil in the back? What if you miss?"
by DamnSevern on Sep 19, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
not to sound humorless
but I don’t get how people can gloat over this.
This is just such a bummer. Sonnen not only destroyed himself, and smeared shit all over the UFC, he gave MMA’s enemies more ammo.
It’s just so bad across the board. Not to mention no rematch!! We all lose.
The only good side is that his political career is done.
..!..
Easily
I’m tired of people saying “Oh it’s bad for MMA, you can’t laugh”
No, Toney fighting in the UFC was bad for MMA.
And no rematch? I win because it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So he talks shit like this...
""When you screw up, you have to own it, That stuff really gets under my skin. Take Shane Carwin. Shane Cawrin did a number of things and he gave himself lactic acidosis. He cheated, he did drugs, and he gave himself lactic acidosis. Well, instead of saying ‘Hey listen, I cheated and gave myself lactic acidosis, don’t be like me.’ He actually made himself the victim and then went out and made threads from this ‘Hey, poor me, let’s find a cure for lactic acidosis campaign instead of just coming clean and saying, ‘Look, here’s what I did, I screwed myself up, and I hope people learn from my mistakes.’ You just watch these guys and can’t help "" but think, God, what a fraud.."’’’!
And he uses steroids. What a prick.
Oh god, TWICE in the same thread
WOW
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you must have a HUGE boner right now
mental boner at the very least
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 19, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't say how happy I am...
not because I’m an Anderson Silva fan, but because Chael has been one of the most unbearable smug assholes the last year and a half that I is fun to see him torn down a few notches.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
It's so funny how some in the MMA media are already on the pro-Chael spin
I knew it would happen
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 19, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions
Chael is sofa king stupid.
I find his shtick entertaining, but this is a deal-breaker for me.
Fighters contractually agree to not use these substances in order to create as level of a playing field as possible. I don’t give a crap about the legality of these substances. But if a person agrees to a contract, it is his or her responsibility to fulfill every stipulation. I take that seriously and look down on those who do not. Don’t care if everyone is doing it, either.
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