DREAM.16: Jason "Mayhem" Miller Wants to Be the First to Submit Sakuraba
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM EDT
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Based on the rough translation available on this latest DREAM.16 promo, it seems like they're talking about the possibility of Jason "Mayhem" Miller being Sakuraba's "successor". Mayhem also said that he plans to be the first guy to submit the legend:
"I've worked my whole life to make my style the same as Sakuraba's. I think I maybe I can be the first man to submit Sakuraba. I think I have the skills, and I hope to prove it"
I may be nitpicking, but even if Miller pulls it off, he won't be the first to submit "The Gracie Hunter". Technically, Kimo Leopoldo was the first guy to submit Sakuraba on his MMA debut way back in 1996... Well now that we have that tiny detail out of the way, the more important thing to ask here is that, can Mayhem Miller fill his shoes and be the next Sakuraba? and will beating the 41-year-old MMA legend be a step towards that? Probably not.
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yewp
Came here to say that.
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Sep 17, 2010 2:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the only time Kimo beats Saku is when its a work or ......
With a stick while The Gacie Hunter is sleeping.
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Sep 17, 2010 2:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactified.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
The odds of this mayhem/saku fight being a work as well are very high.
Miller always talking about his love for pro wrestling, Saku having always enjoyed a good work, and the need to retire Saku with some dignity and fanfare…
by judonerd on Sep 17, 2010 9:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If they wanted a retirement fight
They’d put him up against a homegrown pro wrestling legend or judoka
no one can be the next sakuraba
sakuraba has been one of my favorite fighters for a long long time
when i found out that the man who taught him catch wrestling (master billy robinson) was the catch wrestling coach at westside mma in little rock i was super excited but thus far i’ve still not made my way down to train with him.
miller is a tough kid with mad skills and i really like him too
but he’s not the next saku
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 17, 2010 2:24 AM EDT reply actions
I thought Funaki was his teacher?
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Sep 17, 2010 2:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Robinson travelled to Japan where he became immensely popular as a legitimate wrestler versed in submission holds. He participated in a professional wrestling match against legendary Antonio Inoki in 1975. The match was billed as “The Match Between the World’s Top Two Technicians” by the Japanese press.
Robinson continued an active professional wrestling career, travelling throughout the world to participate in various events.
Japanese professional wrestlers learned the art of “hooking” and “shooting” from another of catch wrestling’s greatest icons, Karl Gotch. The new movement led to the formation of the Universal Wrestling Federation.
The UWF had wrestlers like Yoshiaki Fujiwara who had personally been to the Snake Pit in Wigan. Billy Robinson became a part of the shoot style movement when he wrestled in an exhibition match for the UWFi against fellow AWA legend Nick Bockwinkel on May 8, 1992.
As well as being one of the key influences on the shoot style movement, Robinson began training youngsters in catch wrestling at the UWF Snake Pit in Japan. Robinson has contributed immensely in training several mixed martial arts legends including Kazushi Sakuraba and Josh Barnett. Currently, he trains up and coming UFC fighter Rolando Delgado and has a training program available through Scientific Wrestling.
Robinson was inducted into the International Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2003.
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 17, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to be the first person to make a million dollars commenting on MMA blogs. Doesn’t mean its going to happen.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Whoops
Totally forgot about mmalogic. My dream has legs.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Not if mma logic is that first person.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
for those that didn't know, you can switch on english subtitles on the vid.
(still hard to understand though)
You can say that again...
…the syntax on those subtitles was mind boggling.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
Jason Miller needs to forget about being the next Sakuraba and focus on being the first Mayhem Miller. Having too much admiration or respect for your opponent can bite you in the ass. GSP v. Hughes I comes to mind.
I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.
yup
I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.
by Earl Montclair on Sep 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
AOKI is married???
i wonder if he cries after he smushes her… im just jk.
lul
You have to beat the legend, in order to become the LEGEND
-Melvin Manhoef (after his destruction of Sakuraba)
I never wondered that at all. Pretty weird, dude.
I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.
by Earl Montclair on Sep 17, 2010 4:52 AM EDT up reply actions
haha what the hell?
I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.
by Earl Montclair on Sep 17, 2010 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps this will better capture my reaction.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 17, 2010 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i got yall with my trap card. Successfully activated. SIKE
You have to beat the legend, in order to become the LEGEND
-Melvin Manhoef (after his destruction of Sakuraba)
by chopstickthugz on Sep 17, 2010 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, I wasn't listening.
I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.
by Earl Montclair on Sep 17, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Stay the Hell outta Malibu deadbeat!
The Sheriff of Malibu is a real reactionary.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
this picture cracks me up
"I need a shot of tequila and a cigarette." -- Don Frye
by Anthony Pace on Sep 17, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe i am the only one who has never seen it
since no one else has mentioned it….has everyone else seen the Nick Diaz tshirt Aoki is wearing in the video? Where can I get one? That is pretty awesome.
by Nick Travaglini on Sep 17, 2010 7:51 AM EDT reply actions
Mayhem can't be the next Sakuraba because Sakuraba had the goods in the ring.
Mayhem is a journeyman. A pretty damn good one, but a journeyman nonetheless. Nobody is going to remember Mayhem in 50 years. Sakuraba will always be remembered as one of the greats.
Mayhem is more like Genki Sudo’s successor in that he is puts a lot of though into the theatrical part of the sport and is a solid competitor, but is not ever likely to be mentioned as an all-time great for his work inside the ring.
Of course, Genki was also known for having a soul and using MMA to help spread a message of unity, while Mayhem is just a shameless self-promoter looking to build his personal brand, so that comparison is pretty tenuous too.
I love Sakuraba
But he was particularly good at one area, which is neutralizing BJJ. If you put Mayhem against a string of Gracies he’d look pretty good too
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