Josh Barnett Signs With Strikeforce
by Nick Thomas on Sep 13, 2010 9:47 AM EDT
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Via press release:
Two-time champion and top world-ranked heavyweight superstar Josh "The Babyfaced Assassin" Barnett has signed a multi-fight agreement to compete for world championship Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) promotion STRIKEFORCE.
"STRIKEFORCE is the home of the best heavyweight division in the world and I’m proud to be able to call it my home now," said the 32-year-old Barnett (29-5), an expert in catch wrestling who hails from Seattle, Wash.
"I’m looking forward to competing amongst the greatest fighters in the world and fighting my way to another world title."
Josh "The Babyfaced Assassin" Barnett (29-5) [Num. 11]
Win Geronimo dos Santos - TKO (Punches) Impact FC 1
Win Siala-Mou Siliga - Submission (Kimura) Dream 13
Win Gilbert Yvel - Submission (Punches) Affliction
Win Pedro Rizzo - KO (Punch) Affliction
Win Jeff Monson - Decision (Unanimous) Sengoku
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line up overeem and Barnett.
Let’s get that fight on the go. Josh already holds a win on him, I believe (I’m not positive, so forgive me if I’m wrong).
New strikeforce world champ if that fight happens.
"Catch Wrestlers don't look for opportunities, we create them" - Josh Barnett
by Submit24 on Sep 13, 2010 9:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
They haven't fought IIRC, if so it was Overeem Lite and has no current relevance
There is no reason for Barnett to jump Werdum (the legit #1 contender) and Fedor (the SF preferred contender) unless both are either unwilling or unable to fight Overeem after the K-1 touney is over.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
lol @ strikeforce having the best heavyweight division
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
According to the consensus rankings, 6 of the top 12...
1 Brock Lesnar 99 UFC 1
2 Fedor Emelianenko
3 Fabricio Werdum
4 Cain Velasquez 87 UFC 3
5 Shane Carwin 84 UFC 5
6 Junior dos Santos 82 UFC 6
7 Frank Mir 77 UFC 7
8 Alistair Overeem
9 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 71 UFC 9
10 Antonio Silva
11 Josh Barnett
12 Brett Rogers
by truck on Sep 13, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
SF and UFC's HWs
are very comparable no matter what anyone says. I’d love to see a UFC vs SF HW event.
UFC obviously has more depth in the HW division but it’s not like SF doesn’t have some other decent HWs & prospects too: Daniel Cormier, Arlovski, King Mo, Del Rosario, etc.
Cormier looks like he will be a great one
Another 2-3 more fights and he should be a top-5 or top-8 guy, if not better…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends who he fights I suppose.
Does Strikeforce match him up with Brett Rogers or maybe Arlovski?
I kinda wanna see, Cormier / Rogers and Del Rosario / Arlovski
That would be a sick card
That is all i have to say about that
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
lovin the SF
heavyweight division more and more. great prospects in Del Rosario and Cormier and a lot of talent at the top. very nice
UFC doesn't have much legit depth at HW either
Take the 4 from each (Lesnar, Cain, JDS, Carwin, Overeem, Werdum, Fedor, Barnett) and have them all fight each other and its very highly unlikely any one of them goes better than 7-2…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Started off thinking of top 5 from each...
So make that no better than 5-2 against one another…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
The division is fairly equal
The UFC just has the advantage of having lots of Chieck Kongo’s, Mike Russows and Al-Turks are their disposal too.
Food goes in here
Rogers, no. Silva, yes. I think Bigfoot can hand with anyone in UFC today.
by memitim on Sep 13, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rogers could have a Shane Carwin type run
of knocking out people in the first round but if he gets taken to the ground or later rounds I could see him losing pretty handedly.
I think Silva would be
But not Rogers. Silva should be ahead of Nog IMO, Barnett probably should be too.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d say 50/50 on a kongo v rogers. He got beat by Fedor and Overeem both f them would most likely destroy Kongo
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
But you are ignoring the fact that Rogers really isn’t that good… Lol… jk
Seriously though, he has very sloppy footwork, mediocre striking and no wresting or ground game of note. What would he have to offer Kongo?
I feel like Cheick Kongo is kept around for casual viewers who go WHOA that guy looks like hes gonna kill someone! Then when he doesnt the casual viewer can say i cant believe that just happened! And then we come on here and go WTF he sucks!
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol... Casual fans do love Kongo.
He is a solid gate keeper though and he keeps that gate shut if he faces Rogers. Remember, Rogers footwork is so bad that:
Kongo beats Rogers 90 out of a 100 times.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Seriously though, he has very sloppy footwork, mediocre striking and no wresting or ground game of note. What would he have to offer Kongo?
A fight showcasing Kongo’s skills?
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
big foot is legit.
He’s like dos santos with a bigger head.
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Sep 13, 2010 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's nothing like dos Santos
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Werdum #3
And thus the rankings system is a joke for guessing who is “better”. Werdum would be an underdog to at least Mir.
Not afraid to nitpick
Werdum has 3
Big Nog has 2
Brock has 2
Fedor has 2
Frank Mir has 2
JDS has 1
Cain has 1
Barnett has 1
Carwin has 1
Overeem has 1
I think thats all the totals. did this off the top of my head might have a few wrong
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
whoops you said top 10 and not 12 so...
Werdum only has 2.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
He beat the heavily favored (and will be in the rematch too) Fedor
And he beat Silva who has beaten no one (but looked legit against A).
Overeem was still Overeem Lite when he beat him 4 1/2 years ago…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
just a question
not to you specifically but to the people who say Rogers is a nobody… if he’s a nobody then who has Overeem beat. everyone discounts his losses at LHW but he hasn’t beaten anyone at HW other than Rogers and some cans.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't consider him a nobody
But he is not really a “name” although I considered the victory over AA pretty legit at the time.
People tend to forget just how shallow the HW division has been historically, but Rogers benefited a bit from the pre-Fedor exageration that tends to happen to all of his opponents of late…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
True that...
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol...
I’m not in disagreement with you (or making excuses), I am simply pointing out the obvious.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just clowning too. Werdum is a very good fighter and a legit top ten HW. Despite this, he gets very little respect. That is all.
He is legit
His style tends to make him an underdog to most other elite HWs, yet a legitimate threat to beat anyone on any given night just the same…
I still think if you take the top 4 from each org and have eveyone fight everyone else you probably end up with a range of records from no worse than 3-4 to no better than 5-2. When one combines the 2 organizations rosters, it becomes a very deep and talented HW field with a considerable degree of parity.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Werdum would be a significant underdog against
Lesnar, Cain, Carwin, JDS, Fedor again and Overeem. He would be closer to even against Mir and Barnett and probably favored against Nog or Silva.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
just b/c he'd be a pre-fight underdog
doesn’t mean that he couldn’t beat any of those guys or that he’s an inferior opponent
He's a really tough match up for Lesnar
Tighter striking, and Lesnar has never seen anything like Werdum on the ground. He could muscle through it, or he could get subbed. Same can be said about Cain.
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No he wouldn’t, Brock would do him worse than he did Mir in their rematch and Cain would put him out just like he did Nog.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Sep 13, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Id pick Nog to beat Werdum.
Sorry, but Nog would have the big edge in striking over Werdum. Plus, Nog would be able to prevent the fight from hitting the gound. If it went to the mat, the more likely Werdum wins. But, I dont think you will get many people that think Werdum could take Nog to the ground. JS
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Josh barnett also fell off for no apparent reason other than inactivity/steriod use. Before UFC 100 brock wasn’t even considered the number 2 HW in the world it was barnett…barnett hasn’t lost and he’s still the same person.
Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...
No apparent reason?
The inactivity, lack of quality competition and the steroid use are all incredibly valid reasons.
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My point is its not like he lost. He’s still the same fighter who was considered number 2 earlier, whether the rankings consider him that or not. I honestly think the rankings are a pretty bad way of judging how “big” a win.
Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...
Let's look at it another way
Barnett’s last really significant win was Big Nog in ’06, a loss that Nog would go on to avenge.
Forget the steroids, Barnett’s actual accomplishments don’t back up any kind of significant ranking.
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yea steroids make you a way worse athlete:
I see why people think he isn’t any good any more.
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cheating invalidates your accomplishments
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correction
getting caught cheating invalidates your accomplishments.
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by Johnathan Willis on Sep 13, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless
In the case of Josh Barnet, he’s made his own bed.
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i agree
but for every one fighter who gets caught there’s 20 that don’t
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by Johnathan Willis on Sep 13, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn’t forgive those who do get caught. Particularly those who get caught three times.
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i agree with your last big win comment on barnett
I feel like you are just pretending things don’t exist. Hw division is saturated with steroids, you mention Barnett’s ranking deserves to be lower because of a hot test.
it is clear carwin is a user. Should his ranking be lower? Mir put on about 50lbs of rip in under a year……. should we lower his ranking?
To act like steroids in the HW division aren’t more common than not is silly.
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 13, 2010 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not A hot test
Three hot tests.
The difference between him and Carwin and Mir is that A) whatever suspicions you have about Mir, he’s never tested positive, and b) the only thing we know about Carwin is that he allegedly received a shipment of steroids in 2006.
Josh Barnett has tested positive THREE TIMES. These are FACTS. So what should we spend more time doing? Acknowledging things that we know to be FACT, or speculating about things that may or may not be true?
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well i am sure everyone else that gets caught only did it once.
Then never did it again. Much like clinton didn’t inhale. Shane didn’t use the stuff he got in the mail, it was for his race horse he keeps in his back yard.
It just seems silly to pretend others haven’t used THREE TIMES. The reason he got caught last time was because it was a random of sorts. There are a lot of Hw’s that would have got caught in the middle of a cycle in his situation. Pretending anything else seems naive. Its cool though some people look nice in rose colored glasses.
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your whole gripe relies on things that could happen, the things that actually have happened just seem to be more important to me.
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I will never forget that Lesnar curled up like a baby against Carwin.
Till now Lesnar has luck by his side, but time will tell Overeem is the better MMA fighter.
The fight against Carwin exposed his weakness.
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
Any particular reason you stopped at 12?
13 Gabriel Gonzaga UFC
14 Cheick Kongo UFC
15 Mirko Filipovic UFC
Nevermind, I see now.
Not a hater
But I don’t see the Strikefarce heavyweight division as the best in the world, its a ridiculous statement by Barnett the steroid abuser
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
as explained above by truck
it really isn’t that ridiculous…
when they are split in the top 12 it’s pretty close. who knows maybe SF’s top 6 could beat UFC’s top 6.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
and you're obviously a hater
if you are calling it strikefarce….
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a joke of an organization
There is no structure for fighters when it comes to their next matches…no rhyme or reason to the way fights are set up.
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
I commented on the fact that you called me out for calling it farce...
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
there's no structure for fighters when it comes to their next matches
in any organization and surely not in the ufc
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 13, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
except bellator
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by Johnathan Willis on Sep 13, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the last round of UFC heavyweight fights have made their HW look kinda bad. While making the SF group look better. That includes watching JDS not be able to knock out Roy Nelson, Brock turtle up and become a fetus and Carwin basically tire himself out to the point anyone couldve submitted him.
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Roy Nelson is a good fighter
Brock hadn’t been in the cage in over a year, got clipped by someone with arguably the hardest hands in the UFC and you are giving him shit for that?
I’m the hater though
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
who has Roy Nelson beat?
Every person Nelson has faced that is a good HW he’s lost…
Arlovski, Monson, Rothwell, JDS…
Roy Nelson’s best win is what? Stefan Struve….
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
happens to the best of us
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
Beat Shaub too
But the fact remains that he’s a good fighter, someone who’s been around the game a long time, someone with good ground skills AND a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu…
So please allow me to excuse myself for JDS not being able to knock out a good figther.
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
But JDS couldnt knock him out not because he was so good but because he was able to take a beating. BTW i do think Roy Nelson is pretty good my point is if he was in Strikeforce you would most likely be pooping on him too
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I happen to like Big Country
and I like some of the HW’s in Strikeforce…
Barnett is going to come in and get a title shot right away based on Strikeforce’s history of making fights
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
Nope...
Barnett is going to come in and get a title shot right away based on Strikeforce’s history of making fights.
If you are basing it on Strikeforce’s history of making fights, Barnett has to lose first…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
How is it a fact that he's a good fighter?
Beating Schaub and Stefan Struve does not make you a good fighter…
Don’t you have to beat somebody good to cement yourself as a good fighter. I don’t see how Shaub is an impressive win…. especially as green as he was after TUF.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Brendan Shaub not an impressive win. Its impressive how badly he knocked him out and entertaining
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly...
Nelson hasn’t beat any good MMA fighters. He’s far from being a top level guy.
While I enjoy watching Roy Nelson (i’m actually a big fan of his) he isn’t a top level fighter and hasn’t beaten anybody of note.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
so he's not a good fighter?
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
you have to beat someone good
to be considered good in my books.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
im just saying the hype
doesnt match the resume.
I guess good is not the right word. he has a good talent set but he isn’t elite I guess. He’s far from a bad fighter.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
HYPE
The UFC can take a good fighter and make him Elite
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Nelson has been given so many opportunities
to get a top 25 win on his resume and has failed every time.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Roy Nelson is good
But surviving getting hit in the head a couple hundred times isnt necessarily a gauge of a fighter skill thats just a natural ability.
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Cabbage anyone?
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Nog
and look how that turned out for him :(
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Really than what did the last fights make SF look like, Rogers folded once he got hit by overated Overeem. The so called best HW in the world fell into a bjj black belts guard who got sent on his ass by a UFC fighter. Now they’ve signed a multiple time cheater. Oh and more importantly they still haven’t made any money to justify paying all of these guys while the UFC is doing million dollar buyrates if that’s looking bad we need a new word to describe the mess that is the SFHW division.
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by Nightwhistler on Sep 13, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, it's an okay division now.
They even have a couple rising stars in Del Rosario and Cormier.
Im with you on this.
How do you even allow Barnett a chance? Serious, he is the most infamous cheater in the history of our sport. The Chicago BlackSox of MMA. Barnett offers no credibility to Strikeforce whatsoever. I’m not watching him fight period. I refuse to show loyalty to this guy, he broke my heart too many times. I’m surprised he isn’t banned from the US forever. If any man deserves too be it is Barnett.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Play with fire
You might get burned.
Shocked this guy managed to get a job in North America again.
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Josh Barnett vs. Tim Sylvia at Antonio Inoki’s Pro Wrestling Promotion GENOME 13 – Sept 25th
by Nick Thomas on Sep 13, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Lashley still fighting no names opponents…
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on Sep 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
spectaa was joking
since there is no name for his opponent..
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol, rec’d for not having to explain the joke myself, which is always a big failure.
I'm a lover not a fighter
I completely missed the boat on that one...
I missed the joke and the fact that it was a pro wrestling match. I am better now. Thank you Tim Horton’s.
Hey, I got the joke.
lol’d a bit too. Just wanted you to know.
Despite the past steroid stuff, this is a great signing for Strikeforce, assuming he doesn’t test positive again. I’d love to see Barnett vs Overeem or Barnett vs Fedor as soon as possible.
by GetYourHeadStomps on Sep 13, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions
Ok Strikeforce this could not be more simpler
Winner of Fedor vs Barnett fights Overeem vs Werdum winner.
BigFoot can get a title shot after or take another bout.
Food goes in here
Why should the three time loser without a meaningful win in years jump the line in front of bigfoot?
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Why should the three time loser without a meaningful win in years jump the line in front of bigfoot?
Because its Strikeforce…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Barnett Werdum is unfinished business
Unfinished for a reason, but still.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Something missing from his record
Loss CSAC – TKO (Pissing Fire Again)
Win Affliction – KO (Bankruptcy)
Loss CSAC – TKO (Pissing Fire)
by Verklemptomaniac on Sep 13, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 11 recs
Barnett =Final Death Nail of Strikeforce.
We can only hope Josh doesn’t screw Strikeforce over like he did Affliction.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Is Josh worth the risk at this point?
I think Barnett is a fine fighter but it seems dangerous to promote this guy as a main event fighter. Has he cleared up his problems in the United States yet?
don’t know anything about his dealings with the CSAC, but he probably has found a good roid-cycling consultant
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of wish they would have waited until the next round of matches in the HW division was set before bringing barnett in because I think his presence will make it harder to set the matches up.
Hopefully he can stop juicing for a little bit and have some good fights for them.
I think this also begs the quesiton
If they try to make Fedor/Barnett happen before the end of the year, does M-1 demand WADA style pre-fight testing? Maybe we’ll get to see them put their money where their mouth is.
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I was thinking it kind of helps clear things up. It eliminates a big fight for Fedor outside of SF and sets up an obvious matchup for him now that Werdum and Overeem are unavailable.
by John Nash on Sep 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think so. it’s not exclusive, so it doesn’t take japan out of the question, and that’s assuming the fight is going to get done any time soon.
they had an easy opponent now in Bigfoot, now trying to figure out whether to do bigfoot or barnett can delay this until overeem and/or werdum can fight. Then you also have the issue of the drug testing and stuff.
barnett being signed now means no progress has been made in getting Fedor a fight up until now and if any progress was made, now things need to start over.
But Fedor was hesitating to fight Silva anyway. And since Josh Gross was hinting at a Barnett/Fight in Strikeforce a couple of weeks ago, the NYE fight sounds like posturing on Fedor’s part for a contract extension.
Anyways, I’d sign Barnett/Silva right away with the winner getting Fedor. The, hopefully, in the new year you can do Fedor vs Barnett/Silva and Overeem vs Werdum on the same card, with the winners of that facing off.
im surprised strikeforce signed Barnett
I thought he was persona non grata in North American MMA. Can he even get licensed to fight over here? I thought he was still in trouble with the CSAC. Anyone have an update on that?
And I could see his first fight being Fedor, even though Scott Coker knows that’s just tempting fate. Winner gets winner of Werdum vs. Overeem.
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by hobbie on Sep 13, 2010 9:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I’m just waiting for them to book Barnett versus Fedor, and then watch the hypocrisy as M-1 conveniently forgets to ask Barnett to submit to the Olympic style drug testing they want Overeem to go through.
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When has M-1 gone on record asking Ubereem to submit to Olympic drug testing? Post the quote lease.
by memitim on Sep 13, 2010 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Josh Gross on Twitter
posted the following last month: “Overeem-Fedor talk will be interesting. M-1 is asking for Olympic style drug testing. Overeem’s camp says no, athletic comm. testing enough.”
by Jamie Penick on Sep 13, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And who was Gross’ source? M-1 or Bas Boon? I don’t buy it.
by memitim on Sep 13, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Barnett vs Fedor!!!
NOT!
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I honestly can’t believe it took them this long to sign him.
I'm just here for the dogfights and prostitutes.
by Earl Montclair on Sep 13, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions
This sucks, shouldn’t take more than a year for Barnett to test positive again and ruin an event.
by Adam Vance on Sep 13, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully he has learned his lesson by now
And sought out people who could show him what to use, or how to use it right, so he also doesn’t get caught…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 13, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
That used to be my favorite Overeem picture EVER.
And then he went on Helwani’s MMA Hour and had a shitload of balooons and crowns and one big balloon that said “Birthday King”.
Could someone explain this StrikeForce/Dream deal again?
I thought he was w/ Dream for the longet time. But I ask cause I know they’re a joint operation now like the end of Call of duty 4. So in a way he’s signed to Dream as well. Is there a possibility that he just takes the deal but ONLY fights in Dream like what Overeem TRIED to do? Or are they required to fight at least once in both organizations?
They aren't a joint operation
They are two separate and distinct organizations that have agreed to exchange talent from time to time.
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both are non-exclusive contracts too
when a Dream fighter fights for SF they sign a new deal w/ SF.. it’s not like they sign a 4 fight deal with dream and fight twice with SF & twice with Dream. Its all separate.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah I think thats how it works if i remember correctly
the way SF & Dream contracts are they have to OK the fighters to fight in other orgs. The alliance is pretty much just that SF & Dream will allow their fighters to fight in either org if they want to.
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not true at all
Dream fighters have fought for Strikeforce under their Dream contracts. Dream uses it as a way to burn up contracted fights. Exhibit A, Aoki, when he fought Melendez that was on his Dream contract NOT a new contract with Strikeforce.
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I know that Dream fights don't count for Strikeforce contracts
I thought it would be the same both ways but apparently not
by TylerTreese on Sep 13, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Sylvia
They should get Tim Sylvia and then promote it after they fight in pro wrestling
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
"Buddy, you better convince your crazy Russian Boss not to do the olympic style drug testing"
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Better caption
“What are we going to do tonight Brain?”
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by Barack Lesnar on Sep 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
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by DayGeaux on Sep 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
am I the only one who thinks SF should of tried to sign Tim Sylvia instead. Yea I know its tim and he is well unique but at least we know he most likely isn’t going to piss dirty with Barnett i wouldnt be suprised to see a line on the odds of him fighting
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 13, 2010 12:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The guy pisses hot three times and still finds someone who’ll hire him? Good for Barnett, I guess, but Strikeforce is looking at long odds here.
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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Sep 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
Interesting. I like it but I hope he’s getting paid shit. There’s also rumors Pedro Rizzo is going to sign with them. Now if they can sign Duffee they’ll have a really, really solid HW division. Also Jorge Masivdal just signed a 4-fight contract with Strikeforce:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/264130/Masvidal-inks-4-fight-deal-with-Strikeforce/
and Daley rumored to be signing before the end of the week.
by John Nash on Sep 13, 2010 11:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Masvidal is a great signing
was very impressed with his performance at WW against Daley. Any idea if he will fight at LW or WW?
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going back to LW. saw it on Mania somewhere
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 13, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
While the contribution to the sport made by that performance by Maurice Smith against Coleman, it was still only one fight.. And that fight was really the only fight of significance he had in the UFC. He beat up Tank Abbott and then lost to Randy and Randleman. His win over Ruas was some sort of weird accident and then his only other win was a decision over Bobby Hoffman.
It’s not really hard to see why he isn’t in the UFC Hall of Fame.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
that should read “was great” after Coleman.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
lol fuck.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
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by DayGeaux on Sep 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
A rec to you my good sir.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Rizzo vs Barnett I & II
are still 2 of my favorite fights. Hope he makes shit exciting for Strikeforce.
Put him in with Alistair's brother..
Hell i’ll watch
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Well looks like the final piece is in place for SF to finally fold, signing Barnett is the death kiss to a promotion begging to be put out of it’s misery.
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