Quote of the Day: Paul Daley Talks Dana White and the UFC
by Kid Nate on Sep 10, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
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"To this day I've still never heard nothing from Dana. With all the talk Dana gives and the attitude of being a big man that he is, he could have at least came to my face and said 'Paul, I don't respect what you did, I think you're an (expletive) or a jerk or whatever, you're not going to fight here again.'
"But still to this day, I've had no phone call, no e-mail, no nothing, so that just goes to show the treatment I received having fought (Martin) Kampmann at late notice, and fought co-main event on my second fight in the UFC, and done a bunch of media work for them in the U.K. There's some things I don't agree with, but I'm happy to move on."
"The UFC is the UFC. It's like a secret society type club, there's a lot of favoritism going on and all kinds of (expletive)."
-- Paul Daley talking to MMA Weekly.
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DIdn’t Dana say he tried to talk to Daley put Daley just ignored him?
Someone’s lying.
"Girls are mean." Lisa Ward
He tried to talk to him in the ring
Not when he cut him.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Well
There is the whole thing about giving a guy five minutes to cool down before you start asking him big questions about his career.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Well
There is also a whole thing about not punching people in the face after a fight
by truck on Sep 10, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
I'm not trying to defend him
I’m just trying to find out what he’s saying. I don’t think he’s owning up to his mistake, but I also don’t think he’s lying like Keren appears to.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Daley finishes fights!
Even if they go to a decision…
…that he loses…
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Sep 10, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no.
he fucked up, he should have answered for it right away. It’s not like dana has been hiding from him since the incident. If Daley was smart, he could have not thrown the sucker punch, he could have answered dana right after it happened, he could have found dana before leaving the arena that night, or he could have shown eve a little bti of remorse about the incident in the months that have passed.
by Phildo on Sep 10, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't know if you've ever been in a fight
But right afterwards is not the time to try and talk to someone.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
and that excuses daley for not chasing dana down after the fact how exactly?
Dana being petty is not braking news, especially for someone who was part of the secret club like he was. Daley has been 1000% wrong about every part of this incident issue, and he just keeps digging himself deeper.
That's nice
But they cut him. You do’t think they owe him a call?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really.
He made the UFC look bad right after the SF brawl, not what Dana and company wanted.
Fuck him.
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by RolloTomasi on Sep 10, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ok that's true
But you’re saying he’s wrong for wanting to be told he was fired in person or by phone like a human?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm saying it's wrong for him to bitch about it to the press.
At this rate he’ll never get back in the UFC.
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dana announced it to a room full of people that he was supposed to be in. Not dana’s fault he was busy doing something else.
Uh, he wasn't invited to the press conference
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
When you fuck up bad enough to get fired
You usually don’t expect your boss to go hug it out and make sure your feelings aren’t hurt
Uh, i don't know where you work
But if I get fired, my boss is telling me to my face. Or at least a phone call.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
At my job.
You find out you’re fired when your paycheck stops showing up, and your gear is out on the curb.
But I have a mans job so…
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Uh, I don't know what size company you work for
but at my company, if I were to get fired, my ‘boss’ WOULD do it too. My ‘boss’, however, is not the owner or president of the company………..
by Daveyboy on Sep 10, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whoever's decision it is
Is going to be the one who tells you. Unless its an across the board downsizing or something.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Not really
I got fired from a job because the boss’ boss’ boss was pissed at something I did, and my direct report is the one who fired me.
Nevermind the fact that now we’re going on this notion that UFC was never going to tell Paul Daley and leave him in limbo, where the reality is they just answered the press because Paul Daley took off moping before UFC could tell him.
Let’s break it down like this. Say I go apeshit in my office, smash a monitor and storm out. The boss might let everyone know that I would not be coming back due to my behavior. I would then be informed later by a phone call, possibly from Human Resources. Perhaps I had a friend at the office who told me I was going to be fired.
This would be like me whining on facebook that the boss didn’t even tell me I was fired, I heard it from my friend after I stormed out of the office throwing a tantrum.
The point is, someone fired you
Daley’s boss is Dana and the Fertittas. There are no middle men between them. Someone above you contacted you.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if not Dana, SOMEONE
No one called him is his point.
And Dana is so hands on with everything else. C’mon, you guys are being kinda silly here.
Dana does all the hiring and firing for the most part
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
there is undoubtedly language in all UFC contracts...
that explains the legal process that the UFC must go through in order to formally release someone. Daley is clearly not in the UFC anymore; thus, he was obviously informed through the proper, agreed upon channels that he had been released from his contract (whether that was a direct dialogue with him or through a 3rd party).
As such, the UFC owes him nothing more. And this isn’t a case of a company needing to extend some common courtesy to an employee to explain exactly why they are being let go — unless this guy is a f**king idiot he knows exactly why he is no longer employed with the UFC.
Legally =/= cordiality
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana White =/= a cordial man
just sayin
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by The Lethal Haze on Sep 11, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
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Wouldn’t Paul Daley’s manager get the news that he was fired first? It’s Daley’s manager that worked the contract with Zuffa. So, it’s a reasonable assumption that Paul’s manager was called first. Todd Duffee was released this week too. If, memory serves, he wasn’t called by Dana either. Business is business, I don’t understand why Paul or Todd would be expecting an explanation from Dana.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Even if your future in your profession depends on it?
I would suck up my pride/anger/rage/frustration and go talk to the guy who signs my paychecks to apologize..
Man I've been in fights
and had to talk to the police and my freedom depended on what I said. Even then, it’s not really the time. Cops will give you a couple mins to cool off.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that man
Don’t be obtuse. I’m simply comparing the adrenaline and testosterone fueled mindset and the desire to not want to talk to people.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's fault is that?
This is a sport where 60 seconds after a fight most guys are giving televised interviews. If you can’t keep your shit together long enough to apologize to your boss for royally fucking up, then you’ve got no right to bitch.
There's a difference betwee apologizing and having a conversation
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I know and I'm BLACK
Shocker?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No dummy
I said shocker that a cop was nice to me because of that fact.
It was a joke.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right.
I understand that feeling you get inside when you know you just f’d up. The first thing I thought was, “crap, I just messed up”. Daley showed no remorse, took no responsiblity for his actions, and acted like he was owed something. Wrong way to handle yourself, when you are at fault. IMHO
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
There is (or should be) a difference to a fighter in a prize fight and a drunk guy off the street brawling. If Daley can’t control that turn off switch that he should have as a professional fighter, then he shouldn’t be complaining about the consequences that come with that lack of control.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 10, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's part of having a job...
It’s part of having a job regardless of whether or not that job is a combat sport that when your boss wants to talk to you, you talk to your boss. Having gone thru some anger management (never been violent, but holding it in was becoming an issue) courses I’ve learned that there are some ways to get your points across even while your angry and upset.
For example I got pretty pissed off about a problem at work a couple of years ago and when my manager asked to talk to me I was pretty fired up. My response was to ask him if he could give me a couple of minutes to calm down about the issue as I wasn’t clear headed enough to talk just that second. He looked at me for a minute then told me that he could see that I wasn’t and to take five minutes to get my head straight. Afterwards we talked about the issue that happened, cleared it up, and moved on from it with nobody having lost their job or getting punched in the face.
Daley on the other hand essentially told his boss that he could care less about what he had to say by ignoring him and left it at that. He had time in the ring after the punch to talk, time after the event to find Dana and talk, and time before he was cut to call up the UFC management and talk. He didn’t do any talking though until he got cut and now instead of owning up to his mistakes and shutting his mouth about them he just continues to piss and moan about how unfairly he was treated.
Time to grow up and be a man. Being a fighter doesn’t excuse violence outside of a fight’s time limit.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 10, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Far be it for me to suggest that your job may be slightly different from one that calls on you to try to beat the crap out of another man for 15 minutes, or that it might involve different stresses, but I think this isn’t a very good parallel.
Nobody — not even Daley — is defending the extracurricular (missed) punch, but it wasn’t exactly a first in the history of either MMA or combat sports in general. You can’t compare the heat inside an MMA cage to what you feel when Bob from accounting is late with his invoices.
He was wrong. He was (and should have been) punished. But that punishment didn’t seem to really fit the crime, and honestly, if the reason he’s not ever going to fight again in the world’s premier promotion is that he’s failed to get in line and kiss Dana’s ring, that isn’t a great comment on the state of the sport.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
My point was that if I as a regular person can control my anger enough to make clear headed decisions involving my career then I would hope that a professional fighter could do the same. Since I’m the guy who isn’t trained to fight and control my emotions and he is the guy who is…
It doesn’t matter if it was the first after the bell punch ever thrown or if it was one of dozens. His job as a professional fighter is to fight within the time limits of the match. From bell to bell. Not from bell to after the bell. If he is incapable of doing that and then shows that he is even more incapable of calming down and having a rationale conversation afterwards then what do you think his punishment should involve?
As for the parentheses on the ‘missed’ punch… Does it matter at all that the punch missed? The intent was clearly to attack his opponent after the bell and that is all that should matter. It seems simply to be you trying to downplay it and nothing else.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 10, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure it makes a difference
If he had hit Koscheck and injured him, that would have been far worse than throwing a punch and missing him. Intent matters, but so does outcome. If you shoot at someone, you will spend far less time in jail if you miss.
And I clearly am downplaying the missed punch, because I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Was it bad? Yes. Was it wrong? Sure. Was it a permanent stain on the sport that should have been punished with a summary lifetime banishment? No.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
fine
revised analogy: if you shoot at someone and hit them in the toe, you will do less time in jail than if you had hit them in the head.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
That's because hitting someone below the knee isn't attempted murder
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Whining about it publicly and blaming other
is enough to not make me care whether the punishment was justified or not. Daley isn’t sorry, he just feels sorry for himself.
Like I said, I don't really care about the punishment
I don’t think Daley will ever have what it takes to get through the guys at the top of the UFC’s WW division, and I think he will actually be more likely to be involved in more intriguing fights outside of the UFC.
I do really like Daley as a fighter and a character though, and I get a little annoyed at the constant slagging he gets here. I don’t think the level of vitriol against the guy fits the crime, and I think the UFC was more fun with him in it.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Monte Fisto on Sep 10, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no lifetime banishment. If it turns out to be one, it will be because of Daley’s continuing nonsense after the fact.
I believe Dana's exact words were
“I don’t care if he’s the best fighter in the world, that guy will never fight in the UFC again.”
I realize that his “nevers” are a little suspect, but that sounds an awful lot like a lifetime banishment.
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by Monte Fisto on Sep 10, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Forget that...
He suckerpunched a guy after the fight because he was a sore loser. Whatever goodwill he thought he earned, he flushed down the toilet with his actions that night.
They use “Dana” as a catch all name for any UFC exec. That way no one else ever accidentally gets credit for anything.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 10, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude you were in a number one contenders fight
I think you were “in the club”. Until you f’d it up.
He really doesn't get it does he?
Someone needs to explain that their are concequences to actions. His parents clearly didn’t.
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Somebody is burning bridges
Faster than Dana White even. Have fun in Dream and Shark Fights for the rest of your career.
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Strikeforce
He belongs in Strikeforce anyway. I could live with 3-4 Daley brawls a year on cable.
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DALEY DIAZ DALEY DIAZ DALEY DIAZ DALEY DIAZ
also Daley Noons would be pretty sweet.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Daley Noons sounds real, real good.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
Daley/Zaromskis, Daley/Cyborg, Daley/Diaz… this is going to be fun. He can even move up and beat the crap out of guys like Cung Le.
"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn
Agreed on all points
Getting kicked out of the UFC may end up being the best thing for him, and by “for him,” I mean “for me.”
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by Monte Fisto on Sep 10, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does he just not accept responsibility for what happened?
I mean bitch all you want, but the UFC was prepared to put him in a title fight if he beat Kos, they probably would have put him on TUF. The UFC and Dana White isn’t the party that fucked up here. Paul Daley deliberately punched his opponent in the head after the fight was over.
"If the commission would sanction it and Dana would move, I’d fighter Anderson right now."
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Except for the part where he HAS accepted what he did was wrong
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And then says stuff like this?
Yeah, he sound real sorry about what he did.
"If the commission would sanction it and Dana would move, I’d fighter Anderson right now."
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Those are two totally different issues
You can accept responsibility for what you did
and think that the UFC owed you a call or something and that Dana favors certain fighters.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he favors certain fighter for sure. Especially if you are from another country that the UFC is trying to expand in say your second fight might even be a co-main.
we each must become like fishermen, and go out on to the dark ocean of mind, and let your nets down into that sea
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 10, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or Daley got the fight because he's a KO artist and the WW division doesn't have any contenders
and he was a new face.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
One dimensional fighter is one dimensional
Mothers know nothing about creeping marauders burrowing through the snow toward the kitchen where only you and you alone stand between your tiny, huddled family and insensate evil.
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 11, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
No remorse or even a mention of what he did wrong
Does he really think that what he did was alright?
THE UFC ASKED HIM TO CO-MAIN EVENT A PPV?
on only his second fight? That poor, poor man. Someone should sue the UFC. How dare they ask a fighter to be in a co-main event. I’d be suprised if they every find anyone to do that again. What with all that bullshit of getting more sponsership money for being in a high-visibility fight and what not.
Paul…its all the UFC’s fault. How dare they!
i wonder if he expects an apology from tan dan for restraining him . or from koscheck for effectively beating him.
"...secret society-type club."
Yep, the UFC is a secret society type club…all you have to do to get in is to not cheap shot guys after the bell.
by PackMMA on Sep 10, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Should have told Dana he was trying to give Kos the super secret handshake
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we each must become like fishermen, and go out on to the dark ocean of mind, and let your nets down into that sea
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul,
don’t sucker punch someone and you might get treated better.
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Sucker punching a guy after the fight is out of order, no doubt about it; but it was Josh Koscheck……
Think about it...
He made Koscheck seem classy.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Sep 10, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That’s a bit of a stretch… after the oscar-winning performance after the missed illegal knee, I don’t think anyone came out of that fight smelling like roses.
Yeah I don't see how he made Kos look classy
And I like Kos
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a great society
The things Lorenzo made me to do to get in were unimaginable but it’s a great club. I just wish we had better catering and faster internet.
Keep talking Paul...
That way you can make sure that you’ll never get back into the UFC you stupid f**k.
In the past two weeks we’ve seen both Karo and Gabe brought back into the UFC. If you had kept your mouth shut, owned up to your mistakes, and won a few fights in exciting fashion, you might have found your way back into the octagon.
Yes, by all means, let's call him a douchebag again
I won’t defend what Daley did to Koscheck, and I don’t even really have a problem with what Dana did in the aftermath (although he is wildly inconsistent in how he enforces the “rules”).
But I don’t understand the Daley hate out there. Daley is exactly the sort of larger-than-life character the UFC needs more of. He’s also a total badass who’s KO ratio is among the very best in the entire sport.
I don’t get why so many MMA fans have so much love for the most boring personalities in the sport. If I never hear another Gray Maynard interview it will be too soon.
You don’t have to want to be best pals with the guy in order to appreciate him as a fighter and an entertainer. When did everyone get so puritanical?
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Well maybe not
but by their repeated condemnations of trash-talkers like Daley, they would seem to be endorsing his interview strategy.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
Exactly.
I thought what he did was shitty, but the reaction from people on here and other boards is HILARIOUS.
People are so subjective.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the dude
I just wish he would act in his best interest. Giving a quote like this is not in his best interest.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
A large section of MMA fans are obsessed with “class”. I think it’s a reaction to their pro-wrestling past.
People are too sensitive about the pro-wrestling thing
Look at any major American sport. The athletes who generate the most interest always have a little bit of an edge. Class is great, but if everyone exhibits it, it is also really, really boring.
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his trash talking and fighting style is fine.
His sucker punching someone after a fight and then 5 months later still crying like he’s a victim somehow is not ok.
He's not "crying like a victim"
he’s saying “hey you fired me, you should’ve at least called”.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? In what world?
I mean even in the cartoon world Spacely would call Jetson.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
In my world,
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Where the hell do you work?
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Hardly a normal job
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Neither is professional fighting.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Sep 10, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
But not the military
Two totally different things
In the NFL, you get a call
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know why people act like the union will somehow make dana start pissing rainbows and solve all the problems of the world.
They don't need a union
They need a fighter’s association
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 11, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
either/or.
People talk like either one will somehow bring zuffa to it’s knees and make the top fighters rich. The reality is that they would and should spend most of their time going after the shines of the world. Zuffa is still going to have a lot of power and do shit that people don’t like, it’s going to take a lot more than a union or association to change that.
That's why a UFCPA works
A union fucks the indies. A UFC player association is perfect.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 11, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt anyone doesn't respect his skills as a fighter
But I def. don’t respect him for what he did after the fight.
What if, after he gets sacked, Tom Brady stands up and Cleats the defensive player in the face?
Sure he’s a great QB, and you have to respect that. But the lack of respect to the sport, and to the opponent is what pisses people off.
And especially when MMA is trying to gain popularity, to have something like that happen, on the biggest stage of the sport, is the type of thing that will hold the sport back from progressing.
I'm a huge football fan
And some of my favorite football players have done a lot worse than missing on a sucker punch. Maybe this makes me a bad person, but my favorite fighters and football players have always had a real nasty streak (RIP Sean Taylor).
I don’t condone what Daley did at all, but people here seem to have a real hard-on against the guy, and against anyone who says anything other than “he’s a great fighter, we’re gonna get in there and test our skill and may the best man win.”
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
What Daley is clearly trying to say here is that Dana White is racist.
And also that Dana likes some guys more than others…
Uhhhh, if he wanted to say racist, he would've
He’s saying that Dana favors certain fighters over others which is true.
Which is why he needs to remove himself. He’s too close to the fighters. They need an unbiased president.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh dear
You’re stark raving mad
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
This is from Mr Pro Wrestling up here
He spent so long watching McMahon play the villain that Dana just replaced him and he automatically has to cheer against him
Uh no
Dana has done a lot for the UFC but if you think he’s unbiased and doesn’t favor certain fighters, you’re wrong.
I grew up watching the NFL and NBA too.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I have clients that I favor the fuck out of. You know why? They make me more money than the rest. Any president of any business will always be biased to the highest grossing employees.
we each must become like fishermen, and go out on to the dark ocean of mind, and let your nets down into that sea
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 10, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
So then you don't disagree with what he said?
I agree with what he said and I agree with what Dana does. I favor the clients that make me money too.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
People take it to the extreme and crucify Dana for doing so
Mothers know nothing about creeping marauders burrowing through the snow toward the kitchen where only you and you alone stand between your tiny, huddled family and insensate evil.
by Barack Lesnar on Sep 11, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait? What?
What did you have an issue with that I said?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure he is biased for certain fighters
Chuck for being key in elevating the sport to where it is today
Brock for making him millions
Frankin for doing as told
Forrest for that TUF thing
The guys that get special treatment from what I can see deserve it. But Dana needs to retire? Me no think so. You’ll have to wait 9 years.
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
I don't disagree with showing favor
I do it. :)
All I’m saying is, Daley isn’t WRONG for saying that.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really curious how much power Dana really has.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
lol...
All of it….?
Sure Joe Silva creates the Matchups, but i’m sure he has to get the OK from Dana first.
I don’t know who else (besides Lorenzo, but I think he has very little imput as far as fights and fighters go..he’s more of the business aspect) would have the power in the UFC.
That's clearly what the UFC has told us
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
I honestly don't think he does much
If he was really as hands on as they portray him (working on legislation, booking fights, working on expansion, coming up with new business models, etc) when would he have the time to do all this non-stop blogging, interviews, PR, and hyping? He has moved into a position as the UFC’s face (mascot?). marketing and branding himself to the masses.
it’s very simple.
Half the internet thinks dana is responsible for everything good that happens, and not responsible for anything bad that happens.
the other half thinks that dana is responsible for all the bad things and everyone else is responsible for all the good things. You just have to pick a side.
Dana is responsible for a lot of good and some bad
It’s just that Dana wants to implant himself as the face of the UFC so he gets flack for good and bad shit.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm surprised that...
absolutely everyone is chewing Daley out. Koscheck needs a few extra smacks to the face every now and then.
People have done worse and still came back to the UFC
Immature kid
Is he trying to make sure Dana never takes him back?
"You stick a microphone in a guy's face and he calls out anybody but the champion, and Joe Silva should fax him a pink slip right then." -- Chael Sonnen.
Whining ain't no way to go through life, son
You don’t see Nick Diaz whining that the TN Athletic Commission didn’t come personally give him a bro hug when telling him he was suspended.
Honestly when you are able to look at Nick Diaz as a model of how you SHOULD react to something, you’re doing it wrong.
The commission is not his boss
And the commission didn’t fire him
And the commission DID call him and contact him.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ve convinced me. I’m going to start telling everybody how mad I am for getting fired by Kroger as a teenager and not having the President of the company call and personally tell me why.
Damn you Kroger and damn your President!
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 10, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The president of Kroger was not your direct boss
Dana is Daley’s direct boss. Who is between Dana and Daley?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 10, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
uhhh...
Dana isn’t his direct Boss. IDK how many people you know that fight for the UFC, but Dana isn’t reaching out to them. They deal with a lot of behind the scenes people that we have never heard of.
"I’m anti-stalling, not anti-wrestling." - lowellthehammer
They deal with people behind the scenes but Dana is his boss
And Lorenzo and Frank. That’s it.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 11, 2010 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I would imagine
That some mid-level management type called Daley’s manager or agent…
Much as an assistant GM calls a player’s agent’s office when they have been released…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 11, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Good ridance he’s a one note fighter that got exposed, the last thing the UFC needs is another guy who whines about wrestlers. He made his bed now he’s going to pay the price for that Dana owes him nothing but the pinkslip he gave him.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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Screw this guy
Wasn’t he in line for a title shot after ONE fight? All he needed was to beat Koscheck. Now he’s complaining about “favoritism”, as if he was some victim. Ridiculous.
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