BJ Penn Wants To "Get a Fight as Soon as Possible"
by Nick Thomas on Sep 1, 2010 8:52 AM EDT
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Print"I have just been hanging out this last couple of days. But I am going to stick to what I said about being as active as I can. So that is it, I am going to try to contact the UFC, get a fight as soon as possible. Luckily I did not get injured so I got no injuries. I can still build off what I built in the last camp. I did not go out, I did not party or anything so that is it."
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good job by you B.J. go out there and keep doing what you do
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by lesnarhypetrain on Sep 1, 2010 8:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hlow bout Kenny vs BJ 2?
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by xFenixKnightx on Sep 1, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I hear Gomi needs a dance partner
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Ohhh, would be nice.
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by xFenixKnightx on Sep 1, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Give him John Fitch. This way BJ doesn’t rerail any of the up and coming lightweights by beating them, and at the same time prove that Jon Fitch doesn’t deserve a title shot vs GSP if BJ beats him.
Prove Fitch doesn't deserve a title shot?
I’m no big Jon Fitch fan, the guy has earned his rematch more than anyone else.
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Sorry, what i meant was that if BJ Penn beats Fitch, it would prove Fitch still wouldn’t stand a chance against GSP, since GSP dominated BJ in their last fight
Oh yes, MMAth
The perfect way to prove who deserves what.
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In this case it is
Your basing things on fights that are almost two years old.
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Depends
He’s had several fights with mixed results.
Fact is, Jon Fitch vs. BJ Penn is an absurd fight to make and benefits no one. It creates the likely scenario that BJ Penn will suffer from three straight losses and doesn’t change Jon Fitch’s rightfully earned number 1 contender status.
The best matches for BJ right now are either a rematch with Gomi or a trilogy fight with Hughes.
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haha you’re probably right. it’s too early right now for me to attempt to make a cohesive argument. I just wanted someone to kick Fitch’s ass, since no one in the welterweight division has stepped up to do it besides GSP
No one has stepped up to do it?
What does that even mean? Jon Fitch is a very very good fighter. It’s not like all the fighters who’ve lost to him have decided they just weren’t going to kick his ass. A little credit where credit is due.
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I’m a John Fitch hater btw if that wasn’t clear already haha. Everytime i watch him fight I have an intense desire to go to the bathroom and take a shit
That's special
Doesn’t mean you have to be dismissive of him as a fighter.
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In my opinion
Fitch can only earn a rematch by making people think something different would happen in this fight, not by derailing a bunch of other fighters (most of whom, I would add, were not superstars). Since losing to GSP, the biggest names he beat were Alves (who GSP tooled) and Paulo Thiago (who Kampmann tooled). I just don’t see this as having earned a rematch.
I’m not saying I think the Penn fight is a good idea – Penn should fight at LW with the idea to giving him another shot at the strap after 2-3 wins.
Fitch, on the other hand, can wait till after Koscheck/the winner of Shields Kampmann/possibly Silva, until he finishes a fight. Let him take on a real rising star like Kim, Hendricks or Hathaway in a #1 contender fight at the end of the year.
He beats the number 3 WW
But that’s not good enough. Fantastic logic. I’m no Jon Fitch fan but it’s pure hate to say he hasn’t earned his shot. He has the wins and he can only beat the guys put in front of him.
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There’s different ways to “beat” someone. You can either do something dramatic like get the stoppage or deliver an intense beating on them for 3 rounds, or you can win leave it up to the judges and win the decision mostly on positional dominance. Not all wins are equal
Of course not
But, if Fitch beats the other people who may be in line for a title shot, then how can he possibly not be awarded the opportunity?
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 1, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Bullshit
If we’re going to call MMA a sport, then a win is a win. If the decision were left to you, would you be willing to sewer a mans career because you don’t like his fighting style?
I mean look, he beat the highest ranked fighter outside of the champion in the division. What other possible measure could there be to see if he’s deserving of his title shot?
Sometimes MMA fans need to pull their heads out of their asses and accept reality, Jon Fitch is the clear number 2 WW in the world and the clear number 1 contender.
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One has to keep in mind that MMA is still a relatively new sport that is still in the process of refining its ruleset. This was like the NBA back in the day, when there was no shot clock. Basically, a team could score one point and hold on to the ball for the rest of the game and play it safe and still win the game. Did the team that do this win the game based on the rules? Yes. But were they the better of the two teams in the true sense of basketball? Hard to determine when they don’t even play
This is my view on fighting right now. Sure, positional dominance is a factor in deciding who wins the fight, since the person who is able to control the opponent dictates the location of the fight. The person able to establish positional dominance, under the current rule set, is the winner of the fight. But are they truly the superior fighter? Hard to say. Similar to the shot clock conundrum, the wrestler’s can get the win within the current rules of MMA, but is that true to the spirit of MMA? MMA should be about who is the fighter able to inflict the most damage to the opponent and put a stoppage to the match. However, I don’t the current ruleset reflects this aspect of fighting as well as it could.
by TyTy on Sep 1, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"MMA should be about who is the fighter able to inflict the most damage"
Completely disagree. Martial arts is about neutralizing and disabling your opponent, in some cases that means damage, in some cases it doesn’t.
Fact is this, none of that addresses Jon Fitch’s title shot. He’s won fights under the rules that exist. It’s stupid to think he isn’t the number 1 contender.
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by Worldisart on Sep 1, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well, I'm not stupid
And I would rank the winner of Shields/Kampmann higher than him. Reasonable people can disagree.
You write like Fitch has not already had his shot. But he has. And he got utterly annihilated. There is no reason to think Fitch would do any better this time. Beating up on lower level fighters or guys GSP has already destroyed does not change any of that.
It has nothing to do with Fitch being boring, and everything to do with him having already had a chance and not capitalizing.
I respect your opinion, and I know where you’re coming from, and sooner or later Fitch is going to get his 2nd shot by default. But I would put Shields or Kampmann first, and I would still rather see the superfight with A. Silva, before another Fitch rematch.
what martial art do you study?
by the-gentle-way on Sep 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good call Worldis
Martial Art
–noun
any of the traditional forms of Oriental self-defense or combat that utilize physical skill and coordination without weapons, as karate, aikido, judo, or kung fu, often practiced as sport.
There are many alternatives but, interestingly enough, none of the credible definitions I can find mention damaging an opponent.
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 1, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Judo even translates to "Gentle Way"!
And Jiu – Jistsu means “ways of softness”. No mention of damaging violence, many about neutralising an opponent.
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 1, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see how easily Frankie got BJ down on Saturday night? Add 25 pounds to that.
by ufc4 on Sep 1, 2010 9:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was under the impression that BJ wasn’t worried too much about the takedown, since he didn’t think that Frankie would do much damage on the ground. I also think that his cardio in the later rounds is what made him easier to take down towards the latter half of the match
Grappling match? Sure. MMA? Nah
Oliveira is way to green for that.
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by Austin Martin on Sep 1, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Man I'm a Guillard fan,but BJ
Would run over either of those guys.
by DayGeaux on Sep 1, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am also a Guillard fan
I think the striking would be competive, but the ground game might be a bit much for Melvin
BJ doesn’t usually look to take it to the ground. He might want to bang with Melvin for a bit
Either way, still an awesome first 4 minutes
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by Austin Martin on Sep 1, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes pls
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
what about guida?
nobody is hoping for penn vs guida?
by john_richmond_martin on Sep 1, 2010 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
I'd watch
Guida would need to use his wrestling for it to be competitive, those hooks he throws would never touch BJ.
I love Guida & Penn. I don’t see Guida making it out of that with a W. Not until I’ve seen more of the new & improved Greg Jackson Guida am I prepared to see him as a title contender.
One of my favorite LWs, but a fight with BJ Penn should be for a title contender.
My head will explode if BJ has a run like Chuck did on his way to pasture. =\
I like this match for Penn. Guida has some name recognition and is a solid journeyman fighter but has almost no conceivable paths to victory. I think Penn needs a fight like this to get back on track.
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by The Darkness on Sep 1, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Guida would give BJ nightmares in a fight, the last thing Penn needs is a guy who will take him down and make his life miserable he’s already had enough of that from GSP. They better give BJ a guy who doesn’t have great takedowns that’s the best way to get him back on track because the blueprint to beat BJ is set and unless guys pull a Sherk or Florian he’ll be in all sorts of trouble.
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by Nightwhistler on Sep 1, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sunglasses indoors to hide your wounds? What are you hiding from, BJ?
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Sep 1, 2010 9:48 AM EDT reply actions
Not hiding.
Clearly he’s been jamming out to Corey Hart.
by menckenstein on Sep 1, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
B.J.’s been my favorite fighter since I started watching MMA… he needs to go back to Marv Marinovich ASAP.
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by Patrick Tenney on Sep 1, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
He didn't train with Skynet this time?
No wonder
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Maybe.
I think he should train away from his family. My reasoning is outside of a few individuals nobody is going to push their meal ticket harder than he wants to go if they’re family.
Marinovich and co are in California, not Hawaii, so hopefully he’d be away from his family.
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by Patrick Tenney on Sep 1, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant without JD, too. He needs to free himself completely from his usual camp/entourage.
by menckenstein on Sep 1, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Including that guy who’s always in his corner. I mean, did you hear his advice for the second round?
“Hey, listen… that grappling.”
"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn
Penn
Penn vs Sotrprororpprololis or Pellegrino!
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
hmm...
Is anyone else wondering if he is just trying to be done with his UFC contract?
by cokemachinebaby on Sep 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
Edgar dominated him for 5 rounds and he has no injuries? shows you what kind of fight edgar brought to penn
You can't see his eyes
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 1, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
they were in a fight
he’ll probably have a shiner, frankie probably has one too… now what he did to Diego is damage.
Um
Yeah…
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 2, 2010 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
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