UFC 119 Preview: Ryan Bader on Antonio Rogerio Nogueira - "I Believe My Wrestling Can Neutralize His Jiu Jitsu"
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2010 1:18 AM EDT
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One of the fast rising prospects in the division, Ryan Bader (11-0) talked about his UFC 119 co-headlining bout against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (19-3). The two-time Division 1 wrestler says he's confident that his wrestling can neutralize Lil Nog's jiujitsu:
I do feel confident standing with Nog. He has great boxing, and great counter punches. The thing is, this is MMA and with 4 oz gloves on anything can happen. I feel that I hit very hard and have a good chin, so who knows a KO could happen.
He is very good on the ground and I am very good at my wrestling game. I have fought many black belts in my career and train with even more. I have to be smart when I’m on the canvas with Rogerio. He is very slick but I believe my wrestling can neutralize his Jiu Jitsu.
Bader also goes on to say that the Lil Nog's controversial victory against Jason Brilz did show some holes in his game:
I plan on finishing this fight any way I can; whether that is a KO or a TKO from ground & pound. Rogerio is an extremely hard fighter to finish but I am going to go in there and try to do just that... I am going to prepare to fight the best Nogueira that has ever fought. The Brilz fight did show me some holes in Nogueira’s game and some things to consider but I am going to try and go out and fight my fight.
After the jump, Ryan "Darth" Bader talks about the origin of his nickname.
Aaron Simpson was calling me "Darth" in college when he was a coach on ASU's wrestling team. After college I went to Arizona Combat Sports and they started calling me "Darth" without any previous knowledge so it just stuck with me. It is better than "Master Bader" so I will take Darth.
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I would say this fight is Lil Nog's
But his previous performance against Brills has me doubting that
Brilz lost that fight because he was exhausted in the 3rd and didn’t stay busy enough when he had top position.
Bader better get his cardio up or else he will suffer the same kind of defeat Brilz did.
"He sucks weiner! He sucks weiner!" - II SMASH II
and you can even make the case that Brilz won that fight.
either way, I think Bader takes this unless he decides to stand and bang the whole time.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought brilz won the fight
But that might’ve just been the fact that the sacrficial lamb in Brilz actually gave Nog one hell of a close fight
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that Joe Silva is a freakin genius.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 1, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
That Veronica Vaughn is one hot piece of ace
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by II SMASH II on Sep 1, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I thought Brilz won the fight myself
but he didn’t leave a good last impression with the judges I guess. I know Bader is from the next town up the road from me and I should cheer for him but I just can’t bring myself to do it. I hope Rogerio lights him up.
"He sucks weiner! He sucks weiner!" - II SMASH II
by Earl Montclair on Sep 1, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Bader is a guy people are under looking he has lots of promise
may get flamed for this but i am more impressed with Bader Than Jones
his chin has been tested has shown 1 punch KO Power has great wrestling
I honestly don't see how you could possibly be more impressed with Bader
Jones has shown much more dominance and versatility in his MMA career then Bader has thus far. All Bader really has is his okay wrestling and that big right hand, if guys can overcome that stuff early enough and wait till his cardio tanks out then they can take him to the limit like Shafer.
I think people are overestimating Bader and his abilities building him up like he’s some magical prospect, but I honestly don’t see this guy hanging with the top five and making a run for the title. I don’t know, maybe I’ll change my opinion after the Nog fight.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Dude he knocked Jardine on his ass with a left hook
Who the hell else has done that?
"If I woke up looking like that, I would run towards the nearest living thing and kill it." -Master Shake
We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
by II SMASH II on Sep 1, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Boomshakalaka
"He sucks weiner! He sucks weiner!" - II SMASH II
by Earl Montclair on Sep 1, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel the same way
I’m honestly not overly impressed with Ryan Bader just yet. Sure, he’s 11-0, got wrestling and some power in his hands but that’s about it. Poor cardio and poor stand-up technique, I think he will run into some trouble once he starts facing the upper echelon of LHW fighters.. then again he’s fairly young and has time to improve. But as it is up until now I don’t see him as the future champ, he’s a bit too limited IMO. He has some good wins but he hasn’t looked terribly good in all of them.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 1, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions
What makes you think he has poor cardio?
Is it just the Marrero & Schaefer fights? A fight where he blew out his knee and another where he was coming back from major knee surgery? Does Shogun have poor cardio too? Because he looked even worse under similar circumstances in the Griffin & Coleman fights.
Probably mostly those fights, yeah. I didn’t know about the knee thing, or maybe I’ve just forgotten, point still stands though that his cardio hasn’t looked terribly great in some of his fights. To be honest I don’t really remember how he looked in the Jardine fight, even though I’m sure I’ve seen it.. he did not impress me in Schaefer fight however. Hopefully he can prove me wrong about lacking cardio in his upcoming fights, I’m not saying it’s set in stone.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 1, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
if guys can overcome that stuff early enough and wait till his cardio tanks out then they can take him to the limit like Shafer.
Cut the guy some slack for the Schaefer fight. He was coming off a seven month layoff and major knee surgery. Judging him by that fight is like judging Shogun based on the Griffin/Coleman fights.
Bader has 1 punch KO power
But he swings wildly.
Bones breaks faces.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Who has Bader KO'd with one punch
Cause all I can think of is Lawlor
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He KOed Vinny with that right hand.
And clocked Red Schafer but Red is a tough SOB.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Keith Jardine
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 1, 2010 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i wanna say that was a left
but the point remains that he has power in his hands
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Bader has shown a tendency to gas too easily, although he does have good power despite his technique.
But can you honestly imagine Jones getting stuffed repeatedly by Keith Jardine?
Hopefully the rumors are true & Jones gets the winner of this fight, but that’s not how the UFC usually treats high level prospects/up-and-comers.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 1, 2010 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Huge fan of both of these guys
Seriously, this, like several other 119 fights, is a match up of guys I’ve been watching and rooting for, for a while, who now get matched up against eachother.
I know the majority will probably pick Lil Nog, but I’m definitely saying Bader takes this one. Bader has a lot of power in his hands, and Lil Nog doesn’t have the epic chin of prime Big Nog, he got rocked by Brilz. I personally believe Bader has better wrestling and more power in his punches than Brilz.
I say Bader wins this by TKO or KO
CPG
The Cane KO really helped Lil’ Nog’s stock, but I think he’s in danger in all aspects of the fight against Bader. Lil Nog’s got a chin, no doubt, but Bader can put him out, and there’s no doubt he can put him on his back whenever he wants. We’ve seen Bader control BJJ black belts on the floor time and time again, and I don’t see this fight going any differently.
Ugh
Am I the only one reading that as “I will do just enough not to get stood up after each takedown” ?
If that is your takeaway from “I plan on finishing this fight any way I can; whether that is a KO or a TKO from ground & pound.” then I guess I’m to assume your more of a K-1 kind of guy…amirite?
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 1, 2010 8:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Everyone says that
Everyone says they’re going to finish it, and I am sure they really want to but the moment someone starts talking about neutralization on the ground all that comes to mind is stalling.
Bader’s base is wrestling, if he gets in a bad spot on the feet do you think he’s going to turtle up and wait to get knocked out or is he going to take Noguiera down and wait until the cobwebs clear (which doesn’t always happen during the timespan of a fight)?
I prefer active grappling versus reactive stalling or “neutralization”
Is this what we all do now?
Bitch and complain about fights before they even happen?
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by Worldisart on Sep 1, 2010 8:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mostly about anyone who wants to use their wrestling. It would be ok though, if the wrestler let the BJJ guy pull guard and left an arm hanging.
Sure it's that.
And not the idea that you could witness another 3 rounds of stalling from a guy with an excellent top game.
I can deal with unfair and even boring
But intentionally planning to do jack and glide to a decision just grinds my gears.
Have no fear
I plan on finishing this fight any way I can; whether that is a KO or a TKO from ground & pound. Rogerio is an extremely hard fighter to finish but I am going to go in there and try to do just that…
Similarly to football, where a big play is usually made because of a defensive breakdown, openings for finishes appear when a fighter makes an error. The top fighters these days make far fewer glaring errors than their predecessors.
Standing, Bader doesn’t stand a chance. His boxing skills are nowhere near on par with lil’ Nog’s. On the ground, I think he gave a fair assessment; his wrestling skills should be able to nullify Nog’s BJJ (considering the Brilz fight and all). Should be a good fight.
Thats pretty spot on
Nog has shown no sign ever of being caught with wild punches.. his boxing skills are that good
hey, whatever happened to that theiry soccer-jew guy
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 1, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
we all know that was a freak upset and im pretty sure nog has learned a hell of alot since then
and good call just saying soccer-jew than trying to spell his name
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
srsly
worst name ever to type
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 1, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Brilz also tagged him a couple time. Like his brother, he’s really not that hard to hit, but he generally hits harder and is more accurate than his opponents. Should be an interesting fight.
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by The Darkness on Sep 1, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to be that guy, but...
The two-time Division 1 wrestler says he’s confident that his wrestling can neutralize Lil Nog’s jiujitsu:
I think it should read
The two-time Division 1 All-American wrestler says he’s confident that his wrestling can neutralize Lil Nog’s jiujitsu:
"I got a good Christian raising and a 8th grade education / Ain't no need in y'all in treating me this way." - Billy Joe Shaver
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