Wrong Again: Chael Sonnen's Flagrant Lies Make Fans More Likely To Believe the Fix Was in at UFC 117

Everybody in my group, other than myself, thought the fix was in. I don’t see it at all but who knows? I’m usually wrong about these things.

plus, that is shown in slow motion. Spider tried to crank it, and by the time he had started applying pressure, chael had moved his left left over to block the kimura, and AS started transitioning to the leg lock for position.

Just because he didn’t needlessly hold on to the kimura for 20 seconds longer than he should’ve and lose his chance to escape the position like most fighters do, and give Rogan a chance to explain the Keymoora for the nth fucking time, doesn’t mean it was a work.

if anything, this just shows that AS’s jj is high enough level to anticipate things and move from holds quicker than most people. Writers that try to claim work are sensationalist fucktards.

My dad said he thought it was a fix but he almost never watches mma. He also said “What did Anderson forget how to fight?” when he was being tagged repeatedly in the standup.

… guys really ? Sonnen’s submission D is horrid . Six of his eleven losses were by triangle or armbar .

Some people will say anything they can think of to explain away something they didn’t want to happen. I love a good conspiracy theory and love kayfabe and pro wrestling worlds but this one is a reach.

A friend of mine thought the same…a fix, as if Anderson’s skills had disappeared overnight then miraculously wins by Triangle-Armbar.

Who knows. MMA gets that much needed spark of life back then we get articled that theorize an alledged fix. Whereas cheating/corruption is apparent in Boxing, most MMA jounalists appear to be the insecure boyfriend verbally accusing the girlfriend(MMA) of infedelity. Crooked decisions aren’t killing the sport, its articles like this.

Real talk..

“Man, I talked to this guy beforehand and he said the fight was fixed and Brock would win. I didn’t believe him but shit man, that fight was rigged!”

My response: “Dude, that looked nothing like a fix. If it was, Carwin wouldn’t have been hitting him that hard. Maybe the odds favorite and reigning champion won a fight because he’s actually a good fighter?”

There’s always somebody claiming a fix. But hey, there was money to be made on that -400ish line, right? That’s how fixed fights work, right?

Why did he get it at that point in the fight?

He could have gotten it any other time! Why did he wait till then?

He could have ko’d him at any time!

When was the last time you saw Silva fight with his hands down and flailing around?

Abovethisfire? Fix it and delete this comment if so.

Chael ran his mouth because thats his shtick.

Anderson fought poorly because he underestimated Chael like he did many of his recent opponents…

His rib probably was hurt, everyone always bags on a guy when they admit an injury, but c’mon, injuries happen. Fighters cant/shouldn’t admit injuries leading up to a fight, can they now not admit it after the fight either? Never understood that.

I dont think Anderson was really enjoying being punched and elbowed in the face for 4 rounds, so I doubt he was just waiting for the fifth to finish.

Regardless, securing a kimura only to voluntarily let it go just adds to the never ending intrigue of the only guy you’ve ever known from Curitiba, Brazil.

What about the guy from Hilo, HI? I remember BJ having a fulling extended armbar on Jens, only to voluntarily let it go because he wanted to choke him out instead.

I can’t believe we’re having this discussion.

Some people think Obama was born on Kenya.

Some people think that we really landed on the Moon.

Let’s not entertain such silly theories.

Reality isn’t real.

And how can evolution possibly explain Chael Sonnen?

9/11 conspiracy, reverse Engineering of UFO tech, men in black suits., blah blah blah.
It’s good for a laugh.

perhaps this clip of Ando securing a kimura on Chael Sonnen late in the second round only to voluntarily release it may be the shred of evidence needed to polish off that conspiracy theory you’ve been constructing over the weekend. Here we see Anderson Silva securing an almost Sakuraba-like kimura. The wrist control is there, leverage seems to be adequate, Silva even appears to have Chael Sonnen wedged against the cage in such a manner that if Chael tried to spin out of the submission, he would undoubtedly be impeded by the wall. In a moment of sheer ‘WTFness’, Anderson Silva lets go of the kimura and casually transitions to somewhat of a heel hook

AS’s legs were in the exact opposite position to secure the kimura… he needed to at the very least, be in half-guard… that type of kimura is typically secured when in full guard and rotated as if rolling towards an omoplata… his obvious goal was to get back to guard before having his back taken again.

works at a bar downtown that had the fight. Roger Huerta watched it there that night. But he told me that the place was going crazy for Chael and everyone was seriously pissed when he lost the fight. He also never mentioned anyone ever saying there was a fix in.

Kayfabe means pretending that fixed events (such as pro wrestling) are real. It doesn’t mean doing over the top interviews and all that.

I think the only thing that lends real credence to this claim is that Brazilians take their Jiu-jitsu very seriously. Sonnen said " A Black belt from the Nogeria brothers is like getting a toy in a happy meal from McDonald’s". That may have actually crossed the line. I don’t think it was a fix as much as Silva saying and showing that Chael could impose his game and do his best/worst for 24min only to have his heart ripped out of his chest by a Blue belt Jiu-jitsu technique. He had that set up all night. He just did it at the very moment everyone thought he had lost including Sonnen. When have you ever seen him come out with the Gi?He insisted on putting it on before he began the interview? Yes, I think he is that good.
 Brent are you mad at the guy from the party because he just might be right? Money makes people do stranger things than fixing sporting events in the grand scheme. Maybe he was just that dick know-it-all at the party who is always ruining every one fun with his bull shit pontificating…

How I loathe the rats that come out to play after an event.
‘He cheated." "It’s a fix." “That was BS.”

Please STFU and go back to wrestling.

It’s simply MMA tourists making up stories to try and explain something they have no comprehension of.

Black Lesnar is clearly Zach Arnold’s illegitimate lovechild

If you want my honest opinion, Chael did an amazing job last night. That was the best performance of his career, and one of the most amazing fights I’ve ever seen. I gained a lot of respect for his skills, drive and determination. You really can’t blame people for not predicting how well he’d do, since he’d never done that well before.

And then he took a great big shit on all of his hard work by trying to fake his way through a tap so that he could get out of a submission. If Josh hadn’t seen through his shit, and the replay hadn’t had a good angle, he could have tainted Silva’s win and the middleweight belt. As it is, it seems he’s convinced a huge number of people that this brand of cheating is perfectly normal and justifiable. Combined with his near-constant misrepresentations of his record, his own statements and reality itself, a man whose abilities, work ethic and acheivements should make him a role model is instead the last person you’d want anyone you care about to emulate.

Think about that: his biggest victim was his own reputation as a man.

So if you don’t understand why this kind of behavior – and the commentary proclaiming him the hero of the night – upsets me, I’m afraid that you’re either a person unconcerned with honesty, or hopelessly deluded by your appreciation for Chael’s mouth and moves into thinking that honesty doesn’t matter.

And I want you to know that it does. Honesty matters. Stretching the truth and selling a fight by doing so have a place in this world. But that kind of behavior in the cage has no place in this sport. And I’ll continue to disagree with anyone who says otherwise.

You can call what he did before the fight trash talk or pro-wrestling antics or whatever. But I expect better from fighters. I spent most of yesterday getting in a fight with King Mo about this topic on Twitter, and could never convince him that there even is such a thing as “bad for the sport.”

Seriously

First I’m a MMA tourist now a Stupider Idiot. If you don’t believe it than don’t but no need to be Rude. Was my post so far fetched to believe someone could be that good. How long did it take Maia to submit Sonnen? Am I the only one who saw opening after opening on here?

fell good, Silva was in on a fix. This is some real stupid shit.

Chael promised his father a championship- he didn’t get it in the WEC because opponent was over weight and now he fights four and half rounds in the same fashion that he wiped out Marquardt and Okami then makes a fatal mental error and loses.

Chael was in on this “work”?

 Just Fkkkng Rtrded.

Everything is a conspiracy to Black Lesnar. Anderson’s fights don’t sell- It’s because of racism. Kimbo Slice breaks gate money and viewership ratings- It’s because of racism. Anderson’s fight against Chael will be a top seller, it’s because the UFC is in on a racist storyline that Chael goes after the “scary black man”.

Bottom line – Zuffa has too much to lose if they were caught rigging fights.

Chael Sonnen might be the best fighter with the worst submission defense in MMA. He went out there and put it on Anderson Silva for 23 minutes, but ultimatley Anderson was able to expose Sonnen’s one true weakness. The fight was no more fixed than the first Sonnen vs Filho fight, which played out in nearly an identical (if somewhat shorter) fashion.

People who claim the fight was fixed are just fans who can’t wrap their minds around the fact that A) Anderson Silva didn’t look like some sort of destroyer or B) that Chael Sonnen couldn’t pull it off. The fact is that despite all Sonnen’s trash talk, he’s an exceptional fighter with a fantastic style to give Silva fits. Everyone conveinently overlooked this going into the fight, because they hated Sonnen so much that they wanted to see him get smashed, and just couldn’t bring themselves to admit that he might actually look good out there against the champ. After what Sonnen was able to do against Okami and Marquardt, it shouldn’t suprise anyone that he looked great against Anderson Silva.

Weren’t People Calling For A Fix After The Silva And Griffin Fight? Anderson Won And Chael Lost, That Simple. Unless This Was Super Bowl 43, It Was Not Fixed.

My biggest problem with this “fix was in…” bullshit is that it is taking away from everything that Chael did. Chael gave Anderson an ass woopin and Silva came back to win. But it shouldn’t take away from Chael’s impressive performance. Everyone is looking for a reason the spider didn’t perform to his usual potential. When was the last time you saw anyone dominate Anderson like that and pressure him. Noone has tried to pressure Anderson because no other fighter in the middleweight division has had the wrestling ability to do so. Hendo is a great wrestler but he prefers to strike. Sonnen even gave Silva some problems on the feet! Fighters go into fights with injuries all the time and I don’t like hearing those excuses. Anderson had a come from behind win but Sonnen beat him up, which noone else has been able to do. Let’s give him his props.