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UFC 117: Chael Sonnen Re-Teaches the Lesson We Already Knew: Anderson Silva Can't Wrestle

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It's been quite a while since Anderson Silva fought a wrestler.  As Sonnen took Silva down again and again with shots he did not bother to set up, I was not surprised in the least.  Anderson Silva has never been difficult to take down.  It's been a long time since we've seen him on his back because he's been fighting a steady diet of men without wrestling credentials, but wrestlers have never had a hard time finding Anderson Silva in the cage.

Perhaps the most stunning thing about tonight's main event was Anderson's complete inability to defend himself from guard for the better part of four and a half rounds.  His primary strategy was to try to stall for a standup, and when that didn't work, he had no answers...until round 5, when he pulled off one of the greatest comeback wins in UFC history.

There's a false belief that spending hours training a skill will necessarily make someone proficient in that skill.  The truth is that no amount of training would have prepared Anderson Silva to deal with Chael Sonnen's wrestling.  He's not a very good wrestler, and it's far too late for him to get up to speed.  

I've long been in the minority amongst MMA writers and fans in my belief that Georges St. Pierre would defeat Anderson Silva.  Tonight further cemented what I already believed: GSP would take Anderson Silva down at will, and unlike Chael Sonnen, he has the top game to take a dominating decision (at worst).

I believe Anderson will defeat Chael Sonnen in a rematch the same way he won tonight: by submission.  No amount of submission defense training over the next few months will plug the holes in Sonnen's jiu-jitsu game, and in a 5 round fight the odds are really stacked against him.  

If Anderson Silva wins a rematch against Chael Sonnen and Georges St. Pierre defeats Josh Koscheck, it's time to make that fight happen.  The idea that it would be a blowout was always patently absurd, but after tonight it's laughable.  It would be a competitive fight between the best fighters in the world, which is exactly the kind of fight the UFC should be promoting.

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I like that the more Silva shows weakneses the more people are wanting him to fight GSP. It’s kind of sinusoidal trend, he knocks someone out and GSP is too small, he has a questionable performance, GSP has a green light.
I would like to see that fight nonetheless.

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 3:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

valid points. If Anderson knocked out Chael in 30 seconds, people would be writing about how GSP would have zero chance to get a takedown.

Regardless, I’d love to see.

After…..Chael, and Vitor.

by moonlapse88 on Aug 8, 2010 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

For whatever reason, when Anderson destroys someone who stands with him, people take that as proof GSP is too small. Sonnen was literally taking him down with shots from the outside with no setup. For Chael Sonnen standards, they were not even power doubles.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, agreed. Also….people do overlook chaels Strength too.

by moonlapse88 on Aug 8, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea and we have further proof that sonnen cant grapple with a blackbelt

andy may not be able to defend a takedown but its obvious that sonnen cant defend a sub…

hes 4-4 in the ufc…ALL 4 losses have been by sub….

yea hes a great grappler…until hes on the ground with a black belt….

the guy never worked to advance his position, he never worked to get in side mount, to full mount….to take andy’s back….except a couple times when andy would try to stand up but that was only a few seconds and andy easily was able to get back to his back…

sonnen was happy to stay in silva’s guard….and he guy hasnt finished a fight in 3 years….you can only be successful for so long with a black belt without working to advance your position before you’re eventually gonna get caught in a sub…

silva, maia, horn, babalu, filho…what do they have in common? they’re black belts

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by HellaHectic on Aug 8, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi.

Jeremy Horn doesn’t have a BJJ Blackbelt, but both Nate Marquardt & Dan Miller do.

thanks.

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry angela, my bad, lot to drink at the bar tonight...doesnt change the fact that 7 of his 11 losses are by sub

dude has no sub defense….grab a limb and dude starts burping the mat baby

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by HellaHectic on Aug 8, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That surprises me

He has a better ground game than many black-belts that come to mind.

by Dootch on Aug 8, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I have a long record that you can look up in the archives of calling for this fight.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

We believe you Rome. :P

by moonlapse88 on Aug 8, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, it was just a general thought, nothing personal :)

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

people are fickle as hell especially MMA fans. They went from booing the crap out of Sonnen then cheering for him in Oakland.

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Aug 8, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm curious about the rib injury

before I lay it on TOO too thick.

But yea, I agree with the gist of this article

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by Cory Braiterman on Aug 8, 2010 3:39 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree

gsp would dominate

always said it and always will

anderson’s the best striker ever in mma and if you feed him people who can’t take him out of that element then he’ll win every single time
however a powerhouse wrestler who has no intentions of striking with him will always and forever give him problems

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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 8, 2010 3:40 AM EDT reply actions  

“anderson’s the best striker ever in mma . . .”

Anderson was just solidly outstruck on his feet by Sonnen, including in the first round when Silva was still fresh. It’s time to start adding to this, “but he’s not the best anymore.”

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by The Darkness on Aug 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

that was weird that he was outstruck

Either Silva suddenly got Old which i doubt or he really had a rib injury prior to the fight

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Aug 8, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was letting Sonnen hit him.

He won all the exchanges after the first round when he stopped fucking around. That was after he aggravated the rib injury.

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by Geno Mrosko on Aug 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really appeared as if Silva was letting Chael tag him,

maybe just to discourage him?

A couple times Chael would land a nice punch, then Anderson would drop his hands let Chael hit him. The other thing, I don’t think he even cared about getting hit.

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by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how GSP would handle 185 though

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Aug 8, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s not be so quick to dismiss Sonnen again, regardless of the many myths said about Chael he is very smart and is probably already plotting how he’s going to finish what he started at UFC 117.

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by Nightwhistler on Aug 8, 2010 3:40 AM EDT reply actions  

not until he learns how to finish a fight...

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by HellaHectic on Aug 8, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't that exactly what he just said...?

“plotting how he’s going to finish…”
“not until he learns how to finish…”

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is also awesome taking down and dominating the guy many predicted he wasn’t even good enough to give a challenge too.

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by Nightwhistler on Aug 8, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chael would win in a rematch

If he had so many holes in submission defense, why did Silva wait until 1:30 to go to actually submit. I’ve always thought GSP would beat him based on styles. Dominant wrestling dominates fights.

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by bringbackbuddytrees on Aug 8, 2010 3:41 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s had holes in his defense his whole career.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he had so many holes in submission defense, why did Silva wait until 1:30 to go to actually submit

who cares how long it took? the fact is that he still got submitted…

if andy had ko’d him instead you wouldnt have said "if andy is such a good ko artist then why did he wait till 1:30 to actually ko him?

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by HellaHectic on Aug 8, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a valid point. Of course no one would have asked why it took so long for him to KO Chael. It’s pretty obvious if you spend 20 minutes on your back you don’t have a lot of opportunities for a KO but you do for a submission.

by Asmo on Aug 8, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say Silva wins again in a rematch. They should matchup Silva with wrestlers only now until he fights Chael again

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Aug 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with you

I like how Dana likes to say the UFC is above boxing because in the UFC the best fighters fight each other. Dana has done a really good job of distracting the Public by setting up title matches for GSP and Silva so far in advance. Sadly I doubt many fans will clamor for this fight. I want it to happen before Silva or GSP takes a loss or retires

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 8, 2010 3:41 AM EDT reply actions  

and gsp wouldn’t have gotten caught in that triangle

he never would have even come close to landing it

but chaels ground and pound is old school ground and pound
while gsp’s ground and pound is much more conservative

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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 8, 2010 3:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he has demonstrably better ground and pound, guard passing, and jiu jitsu. He is a far better top game player.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

naw man. the ground and pound we saw from chael was relentless and that’s what it takes to avoid the stand up

every time it gets stood up a wrestlers chances of getting caught trying to take it back down go up

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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 8, 2010 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t recall St. Pierre being stood up from guard in years.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmm
i can’t say if i do or don’t recall it so i’ll hafta do some research and look it up real quick and find out

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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 8, 2010 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you have to do research

then you clearly don’t recall it. It may have happened but you definitely don’t recall it.

by Terminhater on Aug 8, 2010 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way

Does Chael have better ground and pound then GSP.

Sure, Chael’s ground and pound in this fight was more effective then GSP’s in the Hardy fight or even the Alves fight perhaps, but in both of those fights it was clearly Georges’ priority to get the submission.

That doesn’t mean we should forget the rest of GSP’s resume, lest we look foolish.

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by Goonisis on Aug 8, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

me either

but he still wouldn’t be as active as Sonnen though

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Aug 8, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

chaels better at holding a guy down than gsp is

gsp would have probably gotten stood up several times because of andersons stall and stand up shit

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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 8, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen a lot of Anderson Silva fights. Where he gets taken down, he usually stays on his back for the duration of the round. He’s not particularly adept at getting up off his back. What he normally does is lock in a body triangle and stifle damage.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s been his MO since he was fighting Otsuka back in Pride.

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by AJB on Aug 8, 2010 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

GSP’s ground and pound managed to give BJ a concussion. It’s pretty bad ass when he’s being aggressive. Against Silva, I would say it’s very likely that GSP would quickly pass, move to mount and make Silva’s life much more terrible than Chael made it.

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by The Darkness on Aug 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing

I don’t necessarily disagree with everything you said, but I think Anderson actually does have decent wrestling. The switch he pulled on Marquardt, the counter- double leg he landed on Cote, the way he thoroughly stuffed Maia & Leites (who, despite being discredited afterwards, were thought to have serviceable if not above- average wrestling skills- Demian in particular, who was seen as having excellent ability to get the fight to the mat, by any means necessary), the way he stuffed Hendo in the 2’nd round of their title unification bout.

It’s just that when Sonnen’s on his game, he makes decent to above average wrestlers look terrible. Nate the great by no means has terrible wrestling, but Chael ran through him. Paulo Filho is a fucking bull in the clinch and Sonnen took him down at will. Anderson has shown improved wrestling skills, but again- Chael’s wrestling is on another level; we all knew Chael would be able to take Andy down repeatedly, but we just figured he would batter him on the feet or catch him with a sub.

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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 8, 2010 3:44 AM EDT reply actions  

His wrestling is good enough against fighters with no wrestling credentials, or fighters with wrestling credentials that like to kickbox. Against a great wrestler looking to take him down, he has no answers.

Let’s be honest here: Sonnen did not have to fake jabs to shoot. He was just shooting. Silva knew what was coming and still really could not stop it.

When Sonnen fought Okami, his true wrestling ability was on display. Okami had great defense against the double at one point, and Chael transitioned to a knee tap to get him down. He never went there tonight, nor did he have to.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

after the first round though Anderson was committing to his punches and kicks a lot more then I would have recommended I think this definitely had something to do with it

by drano on Aug 8, 2010 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s clear that Anderson knew he wouldn’t be able to stop the takedowns and was trying to back Sonnen off with power shots.

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by AJB on Aug 8, 2010 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly which is kind of funny because from the look of it his aggressiveness contributed to the takedown

by drano on Aug 8, 2010 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t AS take Sonnen down at one point?

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he was reversed right away if I remember correctly

by drano on Aug 8, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

He stuffed a takedown but Sonnen pulled a reversal.

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by Tonley on Aug 8, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea that was andy's dumbest decision of the night to get on top of sonnen, he should have stood up immediately...instead he got reversed and ended up on his back again...and you could see the look on his face that said:

“shit, not again”

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by HellaHectic on Aug 8, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Against a great wrestler looking to take him down, he has no answers”

Who Does?

Nope

by NaciremaDream on Aug 8, 2010 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other great wrestlers.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s clearly not a bad offensive wrestler and is actually quite good, but his defensive wrestling is porous. I think it is relevant to draw that distinction here.

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by The Darkness on Aug 8, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

so much for munoz helping silva out with wrestling. we all saw how good munoz’s kills were against okami

by Pete Libertine on Aug 8, 2010 3:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Okami

went to Sonnen after their fight and had Sonnen help him with his TDD.

by Dootch on Aug 8, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really liked the way he countered Silva when he got caught with that elbow.

He went down, Silva got on top and Sonnen just powered through Silva to get on top.

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by boxingmouse on Aug 8, 2010 3:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep, I knew as soon as Silva took top position he would get reversed. Was idiotic to go down to the ground with him.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would have been screaming at my screen had it not been 5:45am at that point. He had him hurt and was working him on the feet; just STAND UP.

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by AJB on Aug 8, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

double ^ this

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by HellaHectic on Aug 8, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would I been crazy to suggest?

that beating Anderson Silva is well within the capabilities of one Jake Shields?

by MattParker117 on Aug 8, 2010 4:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I was always the guy that said GSP would beat Silva

and got laughed at. I agree that this proformance proves that GSP IMO would beat Silva easily.

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by KingAtRock on Aug 8, 2010 4:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Should we be thanking Jon Fitch?

Would him winning makes a Anderson/GSP fight closer to reality? Or has the UFC promotional machine and/or GSP popularity reached a point that a rematch with a guy who received a one-sided beatdown would still do a lot of buys?

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by Tonley on Aug 8, 2010 4:05 AM EDT reply actions  

If Shields...

destroys Kampman he should get the next title shot. Fitch looks the same as he did when he first fought GSP. I like Fitch and he will be the most dominate #2 Welterweight ever.

We should get a Hughes/Alves rematch. Not like it would be any different than the first time but at least it would remind people not to put Hughes back into title contention conversations.

by Crazynutts on Aug 8, 2010 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

tonight just made me want to see Koscheck/Fitch and see Hughes/Hallman 3

by drano on Aug 8, 2010 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with ya on...

Koscheck/Fitch but not Hallman/Hughes. That would be a step back for Matt. It would be cool for Matt to be able to avenge the losses. But I think we all know that Matt would win that third fight.

by Crazynutts on Aug 8, 2010 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’s not exactly in the title run fights like these are the one’s that makes sense for the end of his career

by drano on Aug 8, 2010 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Any doubt about GSP being too small to take on Anderson is pointless now. Anderson looked like a fish out of water on the ground tonight. I could not believe it. I was waiting for him to do what he always does and get out of vulnerable spots and turn it on. It did not happen the entire fight.

I have no clue how Sonnen got the better of Anderson striking on the feet tonight. It’s like the fucking Twilight Zone. It does not make any sense. Give him the rematch and then on to GSP.

by Crazynutts on Aug 8, 2010 4:12 AM EDT reply actions  

GSP probably finishes Silva in a five round fight. Chael Sonnen hurt Silva pretty bad on the ground a few times, and for crying out loud, he rocked him on the feet. I hate to think what GSP would to to this man on the mat.

Why anyone would think that GSP would somehow be unable to get a power double on Anderson, advance straight to mount, and put his elbow right through his face is beyond me. Anderson Silva offers absolutley nothing to GSP in terms of defensive wrestling or offense on the ground.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 8, 2010 4:13 AM EDT reply actions  

If you’re extrapolating Sonnen’s performance on GSP, the wouldn’t it be fair to also mention Dan Hardy? He’s a Bravo purple belt and didn’t have a bump on his after that fight…

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

*then

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it's the only good fight there is."

by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

GSP fights to the level of his competition. Against guys he feels threatened by, he goes out there and puts a whoopin on them. See Penn, Fitch, Serra. Other guys, not so much. Obviously, GSP would go in there with a sense of urgency against Anderson Silva. He’d know he couldn’t play around and just play a safe top position game with him. He’d have to go in and beat him up and work for the finish. You want to get Silva out of the cage as quick as possible. If you allow him to stick around in there, you risk ending up like Sonnen.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 8, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like your theory: GSP doesn’t take risk against lesser opponents because he doesn’t want to make a mistake and lose, but he takes risk against dangerous opponents because playing it safe would mean…taking a risk.

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot more danger for GSP being in the cage with a fighter like BJ Penn than Dan Hardy. BJ Penn is extremely dangerous and you’re courting disaster every minute you’re in there with that guy. Dan Hardy? Not so much.

Against a guy like Penn, GSP is pretty much forced to go out there and be as offensive as possible and try to put him away. Against a guy like Hardy, he can do pretty much whatever he pleases. There’s a big difference when you fight a guy who you feel legitmatley challenged by, and a guy you feel is just another opponent. GSP kicked the bejesus out of Serra, Penn and Fitch because he felt threatened by them. They pushed him to another level. If you don’t think Anderson Silva would inspire GSP to greatness, I just don’t know what to tell you. Every time this guy has gone up against a truely great fighter, he’s beat the dog crap out of them. Just blown their doors off. He takes the night off against Dan Hardy, and now people think he wouldn’t be able to beat me up apparantly.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 8, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You sound like Sir David Attenborough. Hiding in the bushes of Canada, exploring GSP's habits.

And since you got so deep into GSP’s…mind…I don’t see a reason for bringing you to light :)

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

But seriously, I would favour GSP if they would meet, but to say with such ease that GSP would finish him is silly.

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, tha was basically my point. He repeats it all the time that he see a fight as a mathematical problem and wants the odds to be in his favour.

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair, Chael did admit in the presser that he felt Anderson’s prefight rib injury did significantly effect Anderson’s performance

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by ekc on Aug 8, 2010 4:25 AM EDT reply actions  

As true as that is, healing his rib is not going to make him instantly able to stop a GSP knee tap.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

That might have effected his ability to defend a takedown…..but how about his ability to take a punch? This man had never been hurt by a punch in his entire career. He had taken a couple of clean power shots on the feet from Dan Henderson and never changed the expression on his face. Now he’s getting dropped by Chael Sonnen? A guy with basically no standup ability and who’s never hurt anybody on the feet?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 8, 2010 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone can get hurt by a shot that lands correctly.

I just really don’t think he has an answer for St. Pierre’s wrestling game. I do think he has the ability to knock GSP out, but I don’t think it is very likely.

by Michael Rome on Aug 8, 2010 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’re overlooking that in all likelihood Anderson comes in with a strength advantage

by drano on Aug 8, 2010 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strength doesn’t help a whole lot when your opponent is a far superior wrestler. When GSP hits a power double or a knee tap on Anderson, it’s not like he can use superior strength to just nullify that. You have to have the proper wrestling technique to do so, which Anderson doesn’t have. GSP takes down VERY good wrestlers with ease. He wouldn’t break a sweat putting Anderson on his back.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 8, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does GSP really use doubles much?

I tend to see him shoot for a single and follow through.

by Cunny on Aug 8, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

strength comes into play in holding someone down

by drano on Aug 8, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alves is stronger than Fitch.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that he played fool at that point (being rocked). Looked like he wanted to clown, play possum, I don’t knowbut it didn’t look credible. I have to rewatch that fight.

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

The initial shot did rock him enough, but then it seemed like he was just dropping his hands and letting Sonnen hit him which of course resulted in Rogan and Goldie yelling “he got rocked again!” about fifty times. I also don’t care for how that success in round one meant Chael beat Anderson standing for the whole fight.

Anyway I think this ass kicking will be good for Anderson, put things into perspective a little.

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by Fake Emcee on Aug 8, 2010 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he needed to be pushed. Although I don’t know what it’s like to smash people with ease, I guess it can affect you in a bad way.

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

This article is written incompetently

Being someone who is a journalist, it’s articles that are written like this that make me sick. It carries with it an obvious bias, and instead of taking the opportunity to make an article about the extraordinary wrestling ability of Chael Sonnen, and making the argument of how close a GSP/Silva superfight could be, Rome instead decides to write an article that demeans the skills of an incredible fighter, does not give credit to Chael’s incredible wrestling ability, and does nothing to enhance the idea of a superfight to fans of the sport.

Mr. Rome, I have fired people from the site I work for for posting garbage like this, and it has no business in a major MMA website, and on top of all that shows that you have no credibility or integrity as a journalist. Hopefully Luke Thomas does the right thing and reprimands you for such terrible writing.

by CynicalMarcus on Aug 8, 2010 5:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Let me add one more thing: The quality of this article is comparable to some of the worst topics started at Sherdog.com’s forums. It may even be worse.

by CynicalMarcus on Aug 8, 2010 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since I know this guy, and it's an accurate description, rec.

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by RobertGBP on Aug 8, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coming from you, Rome, that means less than nothing. When it comes right down to it, you didn’t even read what I wrote. The fact of the matter is simple: It’s not whether or not you wrote what I wanted. It’s whether or not you wrote what needed to be said in the situation. Instead of being an intelligent writer and breaking down how Chael used his abilities to keep Anderson on the mat, and since you want to make an argument for Georges to defeat Anderson using this method, you could tie parallels to the two. In fact, there are probably dozens of ways that any intelligent writer could have simply written an article that was interesting to read, informative, and/or entertaining.

At the end of the day, taking a stance on an issue should be admired, and it’s important to stand up for what you believe in. However, coming across as someone who has GSP’s logo tattooed on his chest simply isn’t up to par with the several quality articles that this site provides the readers on a daily basis. You wrote a parallel to someone masturbating to a picture of Eva Menez on a bus while remarking the round shape of her backside.

However, in all of this, I feel sorry for your school, Berkley. Evidently their standards have sunk so low that they’ll let any simpleton into their school, judging by your admission.

by CynicalMarcus on Aug 8, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was an opinion article. If you want breakdowns and the like read the other ten posts that went up here after the fight. They have a ton of front page posters for a reason. When someone wants an opinion, it’s here. When someone wants analysis, it’s here. You’ve clicked the wrong story, friend.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keep grinding that ax, little champ. I’m sure someone will take you seriously someday.

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Ha ha… ha…. Ooooookay, skippy.

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by AJB on Aug 8, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go back to Spoony's forum, Marcus. And once again, you are a blogger, not a fucking journalist.

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by RobertGBP on Aug 8, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cynical Marcus is cynical.

by dribblebib on Aug 8, 2010 8:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

zing!

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by The Darkness on Aug 8, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Writing on bathroom stalls not a journalist makes.

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by Gremio on Aug 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson Silva has never been difficult to take down.

Yep. I’ve said the same thing myself heading into this fight. Honestly, the fight went pretty much as I expected – Chael taking Silva down and keeping him there. His best shot at beating Chael was always a lucky strike on Chael coming in for the takedown or submission off his back(which was always the most likely outcome considering Chael’s history of getting taped out and Silva’s underrated BJJ game).

by Hardcase on Aug 8, 2010 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Aside from “Silva’s underrated BJJ game” I agree. If anything, his BJJ seem largely overrated, especially defensively.

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is underrated. It may not be on the level of the Nogueiras, but its underrated enough that wrestlers feel confident in taking him down, but still good enough to get the job done.

by Hardcase on Aug 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And also teaches us

-that submissions from the bottom are the most amazing victories
-the triangle is the greatest move in martial arts

Very biased sounding of course, but come on. First Werdum/Fedor and now this. Two of the most incredible fight endings within weeks of each other, both done with the same move from the same position.
 
Something about those victories, the way they’re done, the drama of them, makes me lose my shit. Not like anything a knockout does to me. IT may just be that i’m a diehard BJJ fan, but I wonder if there’s anything chemical going on in the brain that makes it so much sweeter

by iddqd on Aug 8, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

What shocked me about the fight

was Chael’s effectiveness standing. He beat Anderson Silva to the punch in standing exchanges on several occasions. I figured he’d have a huge edge in wrestling, but I was sure that Silva would catch him with something nasty on his way in. Not only did Chael shrug off the shots that Silva managed to land, he was considerably more effective landing meaningful punches of his own at distance.

This is also what makes me think Silva was not at 100 percent. His head movement, which is the best in the sport by a fair margin, was nonexistent last night. He just stood there and took power punches from a guy whose standup is pretty rudimentary.

I don’t know if he’s in decline, or just wasn’t prepared for the level of effectiveness Chael displayed, but the Anderson Silva I saw fighting on his feet wasn’t the one we’re all used to seeing.

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by Dave Strummer on Aug 8, 2010 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think the injury effected anything. I think the most determining factor was that every time Sonnen hit him, he lost confidence. And Anderson Silva at heart, we all know is just a big ol’ baby. A great fighter.. a FANTASTIC fighter, but a baby nonetheless.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Methinks you don't understand what context means.

I wasn’t implying Anderson Silva has the physical strength of a baby and the MMA wherewithal of a baby. He acts like a baby. He loses confidence. He pulled off the win tonight and he gets credit for me, but way to read far, far outside the lines here.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he understood context just fine.

If Silva did have the mentality of a baby, then he would have been mentally broken at the fifth round and Chael would have been the new MW champion.

by Hardcase on Aug 8, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

He cries and loses confidence. Sonnen handled him a golden opportunity, and like a greedy child he took it just like he should have. I am not taking ANYTHING away from him but Anderson Silva is a baby.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, so because a guy gets sloppy in his BJJ defense(which Sonnen traditionally does), the other guys greedy for taking it? Come on man, this isn’t the first time there’s been a come from behind victory before. I know people are upset at the guy’s previous behavior in past fights, but he got the job done.

by Hardcase on Aug 8, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh? I said what he did was what he was supposed to do. It was a smart move. Jesus Christ people learn to read. “Took it just like he should have.”

He was the kid that asked too many times and got punished for it, but in the end got what he want.

Win or not, he’s still a baby I don’t see how people can disagree with that lol.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re just inventing reasons to not like Anderson or something. You can’t say he “cried and lost confidence” when he was still in the fight trying to do something the whole time, and oh yeah…he didn’t at any point cry you silly billy. Coming into every round including the last he was still putting his hands up trying to hype the crowd despite getting his ass kicked and losing big time on the scorecards. You seem more confused by your own definition of a baby than anybody else when you’re trying to say that he folded when he was met with failure in something even though he didnt, there was never a part in this fight where Anderson looked like he was about to roll over and just let Chael win.

As far as the stand up goes another thing that proves you wrong is the fact that after the success Chael had against him he was still going after him on the feet. In fact this was the most aggressively sloppy Anderson that we’ve pretty much ever seen from the jump throughout the course of the whole fight. And really only the first round was a round where Chael did all that well standing, like a lot of other instances people are now blowing that up and acting like he was smashing Anderson throughout the whole fight, in every other round Anderson was still lighting him up.

“Win or not, he’s still a baby I don’t see how people can disagree with that lol.” I disagree with it and a lot of other people do, maybe because we’re not completely biased against him it helps to not be bothered by a undeserved negative outlook placed against him. Saying stuff like that after Anderson showed a level of heart nobody even expected him to have just goes to show that your opinion of him is already critically low in the first place.

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by Fake Emcee on Aug 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hmm...

you know to say Anderson was lighting him up on the feet might have actually been an overstatement on my own part, but still everything else stands.

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by Fake Emcee on Aug 8, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. You can disagree with it friend.

Everyone here is so touchy lmao. We’re cool, bruva.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no it’s not like I want to get in that ass over this or nothing, just stating my piece.

Everything is cool my man.

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by Fake Emcee on Aug 8, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh? I said what he did was what he was supposed to do. It was a smart move. Jesus Christ people learn to read. "Took it just like he should have."

You’re right; people need to learn to read. Especially the ones who say stuff like this, “Sonnen handled him a golden opportunity, and like a greedy child he took it just like he should have” and then take umbrage when they got called on it just because I said, “Lol, so because a guy gets sloppy in his BJJ defense(which Sonnen traditionally does), the other guys greedy for taking it?”

by Hardcase on Aug 8, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, friend, I acknowledges I said that. I don’t get what you’re taking issue with? He did what he should. He’s a baby. Lmao.

Seriously, Silva fans are fucking funny.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you seem kind of difficult to have a simple conversation with. You just kind of half-heartedly laugh off any attempt to actually delve into the issue or even address the merits of what you actually said. This isn’t about you going after Anderson, this is about your opinion and people simply disagreeing with it and stating why.

Again, not trying to go hard on you or anything but you are being pretty silly about this.

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by Fake Emcee on Aug 8, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no issue man. I didn’t post to have this huge argument. All I’m saying is that he acts like a baby. I really don’t care enough to argue it. Arguing with MMA fans is one of the hardest fucking things to do on the planet – me included. It just never works, especially on this site.

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by James Brady on Aug 8, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The main issue is that you’re referring to him as a child and a baby, and I’m saying that if he was childish as you want to call him, he wouldn’t have made it this far. If Silva was a baby, he would’ve been broken and given up by the fifth round instead of hanging in there and getting the sub.

by Hardcase on Aug 9, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leaving aside the dominance of Chael’s take-down and top control game, there is no explanation for how he was consistently getting the better of Silva in the stand-up exchanges. He was consistently getting caught flush by punches that he should have slipped and countered. That’s what makes me wonder if something was wrong with him.

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by Dave Strummer on Aug 8, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

My theory is that Silva tried to impersonate Vachslav Datsik (the first guy to KO Arlovski), and failed just like Datsik :) If Datsik wasn’t in jail, they would make a good couple…

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

*Vacheslav (I’m typing on a big uncomfortable keyboard, it feels like walking on heels)

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson is a character...

He does a lot of weird things. lol. Sometime so much that you cannot tell if he’s doing something to make a point, or if its a coincidence.

by Broke Lesnar on Aug 8, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm...so where are all those guys

Who have spent the last couple of months explaining how little we knew or what idiots those of us who called this fight like it played out…?

And, FTR, GSP will have a considerably easier time than Sonnen did, except he gets the win – 30# (imaginary) difference in the cage or not…lol…

I just hope time and injury (or “injury,” whichever it is) diminish the collective memory so the chance to win big on GSP is still there, IF it ever happens…

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 8, 2010 10:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You called it

This is in response to your prediction for the fight (Chael would be winning and then do something stupid) although I feel justified in saying that the line was seriously mispriced even though I picked Chael.

I hate to say sound like the huge fanboy that I am when it comes to GSP, but GSP will “kill” Silva.

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by The Darkness on Aug 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Props for the call

(Shopenhauer’s name is still misspelled though:)

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

reply fail

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

How so?

Or did you mean I should misspell it “Shopenhauer” like you did?

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I failed big time. I meant first name, Arthur.

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by dancingChicken on Aug 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doah!

Nice…for both of us…

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 8, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I called anyone an idiot (except maybe Chael)

But I fully admit that I was wrong about how this fight would play out. Chael showed me a lot that I frankly didn’t think he had. The standing exchanges were jaw dropping. I’m pleased it turned out the way it did, but I was definitely impressed/surprised by Chael’s effectiveness.

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by Dave Strummer on Aug 8, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

if only sonnen had good BJJ

i mean he should have try to pass the guard of silva or even try to submit him,but he didn’t
And he all know how notoriously bad is sub defense.

by Rampage01 on Aug 8, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

If he had good BJJ + dynamic striking

He would be more like GSP…

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 8, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oddly enough

1. Silva showed that he’s a very good offensive wrestler managing to take Chael down. His defensive wrestling still is mediocre. A fact some had forgotten because he fights in the weakest division in MMA and never fights in any wrestlers.

2. What Silva showed, besides an incredible heart and elite level cardio, was weakness in the stand up. He looked very sloppy when pressed and Chael was getting the better of the exchanges (until Andy hit him with an elbow in the fourth), landing the harder, cleaner, more effective blows (9 arm strikes standing for Andy to 14 for Chael). After this fight, I don’t see how anyone can hold he’s the best striker in MMA. He may have once been, but all strikers age, and age is not good for one’s reflexes and generally will erode your skills.

3. I have to say what a freaking submission. I badly, badly, badly wanted Silva to lose (since I had called for more or less this fight outcome for a long time, minus the wrestler’s losing via submission) and Silva pulled out the nogueira special. Great stuff.

4. The army of wrestlers at WW who presently have little chance of beating GSP but who are superior to Sonnen in spite of the weight difference, should seriously consider packing on some weight and moving up to MW while Silva’s still fighting (Askren, Hendricks and Kos).

5. Jake Shields should be screaming for a shot at Silva after this fight.

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by The Darkness on Aug 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Especially with #4 &5 which I too have been preaching (about Kos and Shields).

As for #2, I have to wonder how much of that might have been due to a probably monomania during his camp regarding grappling and TDD?

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very possible regarding 2 but he’s been striking long enough, I would think, that striking should be so second nature to him, or at least so deeply ingrained, that on his worst day he shouldn’t lose a striking battle with Sonnen. Maybe Sonnen’s a lot better striker than everyone’s given him credit for.

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by The Darkness on Aug 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree…hope the Roy Jones comparisons I have seen a few people make aren’t already starting in reality…

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 8, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see silva winning a rematch...

Chael dominated last night, defended against silvas previous subs and in my mind showed he was the superior fighter. You could even see at times silva trying to dance but chael wouldn’t let him. As far as not putting his hooks in when he had his bak I didn’t see it as appropriate, he was too high up on silva with his control and it would have been bad news for him if he flubbed it.
Chael definitely became my new favorite middleweight, he proved he wasn’t just a gatekeeper getting fed to the wolves.

by Beartrap on Aug 8, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew Silva could be taken down

but didn’t know it was going to be THAT easy.

Then again he said he had a rib injury and Sonnen says he believed him because he felt like he took him down way too easy

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Aug 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Good one, Rome.

100% agree with you here. I’ve always suspected GSP could win against Silva (he has the best chance), but last night cemented that position for me. If GSP continues to gain weight properly, I think if they fought at some catch-weight bout, he’d win. I also don’t see GSP getting triangled like Sonnen did. You have to figure Dana White’s opinion has changed somewhat on the superfight. After the Forrest fight, he felt Silva was too big. Well, last night might sway it back the other way. Regardless, if GSP gets past Kos, it’s a fight he’ll have to make. I think the public desire for this fight is going to reach a fevered pitch, beyond the calls for a Penn/GSP bout.

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