UFC 121 Preview: Tito Ortiz Calls Matt Hamill a "Big Slow Ox" With a "Soft Head"
"[Matt Hamill] He's been babied his whole life coming from being deaf of course and he's going to be babied after when I knock him out."HT: hdnetfights.com
"He's slow; he's like a big slow ox. I'm going to pick him apart and I know his corner can't really tell him what to do and show him the mistakes he does."
"I've noticed he's deaf, so he has a soft head, you hit him with more and more shots. You people don't know this. Watch how Franklin knocked him out quick."
"You hit them with soft shots because their equilibrium, they don't have no equilibrium. And you hit them with shots and you hit them with small shots, I'm not looking' for big shots. I'm looking' for small shots. Little small shots and by the second, middle of the third round you're going to see someone going to sleep and I'll snuggle him."
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This is the most winnable fight Ortiz possibly could have hoped for. Very hard to see how he loses this.
What?
Very hard to see how he wins this? A guy he won’t be able to take down with better and heavier hands than him?
We are One.
Matt has some of the crudest stand up in all of the UFC. Don’t forget only Liddell has ever stopped Ortiz, he’ll pick Hamill apart standing.
Doubt it. Ortiz looked awful on the feet against Forrest, and Hamill looked decent standing with Jardine. Hamil has way more power, though Ortiz is faster.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Aug 7, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Has Tito “picked apart” anybody on the feet? Ever?
by dribblebib on Aug 7, 2010 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Stopped" Ortiz.
See Frank Shamrock vs Ortiz. If you meant that only Liddell has ever hit Ortiz so hard in the head that he was wishing for his Mom, you"re right.
Tito's been studying at the feet of Chael
Troll, troll, troll.
No, he doesn’t really mean any of this.
No, you can’t make sense of it.
No, he won’t address it intelligently if you ask him questions about it later.
This is just heel/troll Pro Wrasslin’ talk. Let it go…
This interview is ludicrous.
Of course deaf people have a sense of equilibrium; how would Hamill stay upright maintain balance if he didn’t? Furthermore, how would he compete at a the higher end of a professional sport?
Hamill by comfortable Decision.
We are One.
That's not what he said
He said deaf people have a harder time gaining equilibrium back when hit.
That is true.
When our equilibrium gets messed up, we use our eyes and ears to “right” ourselves. Without those ears, it’s harder to right yourself. That’s correct.
Then again, Matt Hamill has been trainig and fighting for years and is well-adjusted to that. But Tito’s greater point remains. More frequent, smaller shots will do more damage to Hamill than big power shots.
The soft head shit? I have no idea.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
The part in our ears that has to do with equilibrium has nothing to do with hearing. Deaf or not, Hamill probably has very adequate equilibrium and balance. In any case, I don’t see how sense of hearing has anything to do with how one can ‘right’ oneself after getting rocked.
I don’t remember any recent proof ot Tito’s ‘greater power’ either. The last time he stopped someone not named Ken Shamrock to strikes was Elvis f’n Sinosic in 2001. Tito’s last win is from Oct 2006. Since Oct 2006 Hamill has stopped Petruzelli, Holman, Boetsch, Andy and Munoz to KO or TKO. Now, which one of them has demonstrably greater power again?
You don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Aug 7, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Bummer
I really should work on my reading comprehension…
You don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Aug 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Spin around really fast while not being able to hear and you’ll see it takes you longer to recover. You use your hearing to get “right”.
I didn’t say anything about power. Tito hits like a girl.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe he's calling the hammer a waterhead.
Not cool, bro. Especially when, you know… have you seen Tito’s head?
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
Yeah that "soft head" shit has me puzzled
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Anybody has a soft head compared to that thing Tito carries around.
by ufc4 on Aug 7, 2010 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And he's got his racism later in the episode.
He is asked who he’s rooting for in the next fight between the white dude and the hispanic dude to his right. He states outright, “Being a latino, I have to go with my guy.” WTF? If Forest Griffin says that about a match up, he’s run out of the sport. They all gave him a pass and no follow up question to it. I’ve never liked Tito and he doesn’t mellow with age. The whole digging a grave in the octagon after knocking a guy out used to piss me off. I can’t wait for him to get hammered out of the UFC.
Aww man. Not this. Geez.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow tito...
His ignorance is entertaining at least. But damn, he considers himself hamill’s friend? Pretty harsh comments… Remembr he’s deaf tito, he wont hear the ref when he tells him to stop elbowing your fat unconcious head!
by Monyo on Aug 7, 2010 8:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
ugh, I must write more. He’s just so arrogant and retarded. I can’t handle it. He tries to come off by being smart and sounds like a idiot. I hope Hamill beats his head in. If Hamill does then I can’t imagine what excuses Tito will come up with next.
Shut up, Tito.
by TruthSeeker1223 on Aug 7, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Multiple skull fractures, broken bones in all limbs, a few psychological ailments…
You don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Aug 7, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone stumbled here...
I’m not sure if Tito has studied the inner-ear dynamics of deaf people, but not all deaf people have balance problems. Otherwise we’d be seeing deaf people falling down all over the place.
LOL
I don’t think he’s saying they have balance problems, just that a shift in equilibrium is harder for them to recover from.
It’s the same with bling people.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Totes Magotes.
Bling people are fuuuucked when you give em a shove.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
Ahahaha
Those poor bling people.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
...

"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Aug 7, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
It's Tito being Tito
He’s just running his mouth to hype this match. I can’t imagine he’s serious. If Ortiz came out and said “Matt Hammill is a swell guy and great fighter, this is nothing personal, it’s a fight” then I’d be really shocked.
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
This clown

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
by Damon O. on Aug 7, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
“I’ve noticed he’s deaf, so he has a soft head, you hit him with more and more shots. You people don’t know this”
Wow, you’re miles ahead of us all Tito. You’ve noticed he’s deaf? Maybe someone should notify the UFC, crediting you with the discovery of said info, of course.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
by NE188 on Aug 7, 2010 9:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fighter bashing or not
Tito has to be one of the most ignorant people in MMA.
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
by Damon O. on Aug 7, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I agree
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think someone is a little jealous of all the ink Chael Sonnen has been getting
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Monte Fisto on Aug 7, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
What's even dumber
about these comments from Tito is Hamill has a pretty granite chin. He’s never been knocked out and he just keeps coming forward no matter how many times he gets hit in the face. Tito doesn’t have the power standing to change that.
Besides, after seeing what Hamill did to Jardine with a full blown staph infection the only words that come to my mind are “Tito is f***ed!”
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Hamill might never have been KO'd
But when Jon Jones fought him he completely fucked him up on the mat with elbow strikes and punches.. And as everyone knows Tito’s game is to take you down and Pound on your face from top postion.. if he can do this he beats Hamill, i know also Jon Jones is just an animal at 205 right now and has been destroying everyone but Ortiz has sick ground and pound from the guard position he can do the same!
I have no reason to believe Tito can takedown Hamill the way Jones did
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Hamill also injured his shoulder when Jones took him down. All things considered he was actually defending himself pretty well when Jones was on top.
the best thing about this is..
were all gonna find out if Tito still has something left.. even in the Griffin fight he showed glimpses of what he can do Tito at 100% will be dangerous its gonna be a great fight!
There’s this myth floating around that Tito has some “100% healthy” version of himself that we’re going to see eventually.
Hate to break it to you: Tito has aged, the injuries have taken their toll, and he will never, ever be what anyone could consider at “100% healthy” Tito again. Which is to say, he’ll never be as good again as he once was. Factor in that the rest of the sport has progressed while he has declined (both in health and in failing to add any new skills to his base, while everyone else has gotten more diverse), and the reality is that Tito is simply not a top fighter anymore nor will he ever be again.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
Granted Hammill got his face smashed in by Jones but...
that was mainly because he dislocated his shoulder while being taken down. It wasn’t so much Hammill had no defensive guard or abilities on the bottom as much as it was a freak injury.
by dreamers_12345 on Aug 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, with a body shot… how Tito thinks that this translates to him having a soft head is beyond me.
I think he's just channeling Chael.
Nothing more.
"I ain't got time to breath."
Watch Tosh.O
Pain don't hurt...
Matt Hamill isn’t deaf – he just hates the fans and the media – just like Anderson Silva!
by MMABookworm on Aug 7, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
What happened to Tito
vowing not to talk trash about Hamill? That didn’t take long.
by Scott Haber on Aug 7, 2010 9:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Time for Hamill to bring personal family into life.
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
Best heel turn ever.
Hamill comes out shit-talking Tito and Jenna left and right. He just Chael’s their ass for 3 months.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
Correct me if I'm wrong...
…but didn’t Franklin finish Hamill with a body kick?
It's a good thing Matt won't hear these comments
He’s too busy training to listen to Tito run his mouth.
There are only two fighters in the world who might be able to defeat Jon Jones: Ken and Ryu.
So did I
That’s all out the window now.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
what an idiot
he’s slowly turning into Ken Shamrock
Facts don't come with points of view.
by Robert Livingston on Aug 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
OK, NOW I get why people hate Tito
Matt Hamill has a soft head because he’s deaf? He’s been babied his whole life because he was deaf?
I liked Tito based on what I saw on TUF. Now I get why everyone hates the dude.
"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop
by duck on Aug 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
To be fair, I think Hamill has been babied too because of his deafness
I thought that was apparent during TUF and I love the guy
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
a lot of those guys were assholes. Making fun of him frequently. It took Dana to stop it if I remember correctly. So many of those guys were acting like some bully that needed an ass kicking. Talking like they were impaired some how. Just classless.
i think he was referring to being
babied by the coaches, but i don’t want to speak on the behalf of Black.
and yes, the other fighters did make fun of him, a lot.
You are correct.
The coaches babied him and his behavior around the house made me think he was babied at home as well. Which is understandable. A lot of parents baby their children, especially those with disabilities.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
How was he babied?
I didn’t see that season, so I honestly don’t know.
"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop
I hated that aspect
And it wasn’t even that he was deaf, it was because he was so much better than them. I remember Mike Nichols especially imitating Matt talking about “tipping cows” and couldn’t wait for Matt to push his shit in. When he did, it was a great moment in MMA.
And it was Saul Soliz, not Dana, that stepped in.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Have a kid with a sensory disability...
and get back to me on how much the world babies them.
I tell my 10 year old son w/ a vision problem constantly "You better figure out some way that works, because that big bad world ain’t gonna adapt to you. "
"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop
by duck on Aug 7, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This
I was one of those kids. Try being near sighted and having to go two weeks without glasses. You’ll truly see how the world works. No pun intended.
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
His is uncorrectable
Nystagmus with associated issues. Can’t recognize faces or catch see small moving objects like a baseball. Last game of Frisbee almost cost us a visit to the ER – took it right in the mouth. Never saw it. We stick to swimming and running 5Ks with him.
"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop
I know the E.R. scenario all too well
I was 12 years old with -5.00 vision in both eyes, with no glasses. I was playing dodgeball and kickball on a regular bases. Still have scars from those 2 weeks. Not sure if I was being brave or stupid.
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
I'm talking about by his parents, not the world
Hamill had behavior that seemed like his parents sort of babied him and were very involved in his life. I was shocked to find out he was 30, I thought he was early 20’s the way he was talking.
When he said he “lied to his parents and told them he was at wrestling camp”, that was a flag to me.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Um, help me here...
“Hamill had behavior that seemed like his parents sort of babied him and were very involved in his life”
So, after age 20, if I’m still talking to my parents, they’re babying me?
Now, the quote about wrestling camp is kinda creepy.
"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop
Well, he was 30.
I’d think by 30, you wouldn’t have to lie to your parents about where you’re going. That to me showed that they are still deeply involved in his day to day actions. Which then shocked me to find out he had a child/ex. People in the house said afterward that Matt didn’t really cook or clean for himself either. That’s why I believe he was somewhat “babied” as a child.
I didn’t say “talking to your parents” is being babied. I think they are much more involved than just talking.
Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 7, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, Tito!

"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
by Blackout612 on Aug 7, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
lol & he says Hamil has a soft head?
But, who cares about little things, wrestling is wrestling, right? Wrong. And Hendo found out the hard way. - kyfm621
by MrTechnique420 on Aug 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
When Tito loses this fight
He is going to say that he lost because deaf people have the unfair advantage of having ninja like equilibrium.
Tito - blah, blah, blah
This guy is getting beyond rediculous. I’d like to know if he has ever even watched any of Hamill’s fights after TUF because Hamill has one hell of a good chin and literally just walks thru anything that is thrown at him. He constantly just eats shots and comes forward.
That is exactly what will happen against Tito. He will walk right thru his shots and land some big power on Tito’s head. He won’t be able to take Hamill down at all and will take a beating on the feet. Then Tito will tell everyone he was injured after the loss despite saying he was 100% healthy the whole time before the fight.
To quote the eloquent Mark Coleman
“Fuck you Tito”
by BeeTrain on Aug 7, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It would've been nice
if Tito would’ve remained in jail and given time for his beating of his wife. No such luck.
OMG Tito Ortiz is coming off like an A-Hole...
I thought he ‘liked’ Matt Hamil.
I'm usually not shocked by anything in MMA...
…but watching this interview last night made me cringe. Even Tito seemed uncomfortable saying those idiotic things. Also uncomfortable were the exchanges between the Joes.
This
is why I think Tito & Chael should have both starred in this movie

But, who cares about little things, wrestling is wrestling, right? Wrong. And Hendo found out the hard way. - kyfm621
I don’t think Hamill’s opponents on the wrestling mat were babying him around. “The Hammer” is a three-time NCAA IIIdiv champ, after all…
Then again, I don’t think any of the folks Hamill has gotten into the cage with have pulled any punches against him, either…
You don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Aug 7, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
I really don’t know how Tito is not dam embarassed buy saying the same exact thing over and over before every fight and then the same exact thing after every loss.
Yes Tito we know before hand you don’t even have to say it anymore you should just play a dam tape recording before and after the fight at this point. Its always I am so excited becasuse my back is finally helthy and 100% again after so many years of fighting.so now I can finally train correct aand work out to my fullest potential and push my body to its limits ounce again, You will see the Old Tito Ortiz again or sometimes he likes to say the new Tito Ortiz ? Then after he losses ounce again its the same dam statment. How his back and body have been shot and damaged for years now and he only fights injured for his fans and so on with all his others excuses he uses.
This jusr shows me that Tito can not have someone around him that tells him the truth or is a true friend looking out for his best interest ? Becasue you would think buy now maybe someone in his circle of friends or training partners would tell him something like Tito I am sorry to say but you are making a complete and total ass out of yourself. You say the same exact thing before and after every fight now the last few years. You really better think of something new to say this time becasue its really becoming on going joke. I mean at this point its not even a joke anymore its getting to the point where its just absurd and idiotic.
No joke
Isn’t it hard to believe someone with such a huge fucking head can have no brains. His head must be like a basketball full of stale air.
I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

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