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Why wrestling is going to ruin MMA

I have seen a few articles and posts trying to detail why wrestling will ruin our great sport. Not just will ruin but has ruined some recent fights. Now, in general these folks have been dismissed and had their points and objections laughed at or ignored out of hand. I'm here to change that and up the ante. I'm going one further. Wrestling isn't just ruining the sport now and in the future, oh no. Wrestling has been ruining the sport from nearly it's inception (not the weird dream with collapsible buildings, either.)

I'm going to provide a list of wrestlers in MMA, past and present, in an effort to finally get through to the MMA bourgeoisie. Convincing them to stop embracing these men who have only one clear goal. To make real fight fans cry salty tears.

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Mark Coleman: Coleman might not have been the first wrestler in MMA, but he was for sure patient zero as far as creating the trend of wrestlers ruining the sport. Up until Mark, it looked like BJJ was king. Remember that? It was a time when the sport was growing to all ends of the earth. Positive media attention came in waves to the sport, people couldn't get enough of unlimited time grappling matches. In a matter of a few short years it was certain MMA would overtake Football as the world sport. You couldn't walk down the street without hearing someone mention a Gracie. Then Mark Coleman showed up. Brutally headbutting his way to short stoppage wins. Actually punching people while on top of them. It was madness. Barbarism in contemporary form, single-handedly sending the sport into the dark ages.

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Mark Kerr: The Smashing Machine took what Coleman started and ran amuck. Sure, he was aggressive and a freakish athlete of speed and power but that stuff is easy to come by. We should just ignore that. We need to focus on how he didn't allow real martial artists to shine. It got so bad that people just ran out the ring and through the ropes to get away from him. People will tell you it was because he was so scary when, in reality, they just didn't want to cuddle. 

 

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Kazushi Sakuraba: Kazushi is a bit different from our first defendants as he comes from a pro-wrestling background instead of amateur, which is worse really. Every MMA fan knows pro-wrestling is evil. Once we accept that fact (hurry up and just accept it)...(NOW)...(thank you, it's like pulling teeth with you people) Sakuraba is clearly the devil. Saku is, for my money, the most heinous of our offenders. It wasn't bad enough for him to come in and wrestle away our hopes and dreams like the previous men. He made it his goal to destroy the beautiful Gracie legacy. Every castle we built for the kingdom of BJJ he unceremoniously desecrated. Boo this man.

 

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Chuck Liddell: I know what you're thinking, "Chuck is a striker, not a wrestler!". Well let me tell you, that's just how insidious wrestling has become in MMA. The Iceman was a D1 wrestler, only this menace decided to use his wrestling to stand up and knock people out. Who wants to see that? We watch MMA to see people fight, not just knock people out. When does that get fun? Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly fine to knock someone out but you should have to actually fight with them first. Chuck was always lazy and just did it the easy way. Wrestlers...

 

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Brock Lesnar: Thus far Brock is likely the pinnacle of wrestlers destroying the sport. Not only does he have an amazing amateur wrestling background but he also sold his soul to the Sakuraba and became a pro-wrestler as well. That's right, Brock Lesnar is a wrestling double whammy of horror. To make matters worse he has seemingly convinced the majority of fans that he is the best, but lets take a closer look. Like Kerr, take away his size, speed, strength and overall athleticism. Once those are gone he doesn't have much and frankly, anyone could gain those attributes. It's nothing special. Apparently the greatest trick the devil has played is convincing people Brock is worth watching, since he brings in an infinity amount of PPV buys. And for what? To see some run of the mill behemoth bludgeon people instead of fighting them.

 

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Starman: This is really just a look to the future. After Brock there is sure to be more wrestlers, amateur and pro alike, coming into MMA to destroy it. Let us endeavor to not let this happen. Consider, do we really want Star Man in MMA? If we don't speak up now he'll be here soon, flying forearms for all of us.

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Props for Star Man!!!

by chrisbboy82 on Aug 6, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

What about GSP? He’s the worst, he started out using the only type of fighting that is any good (Japanese named moves) and started wrestling!

Traitor!!!!!

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Aug 6, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

He was on the list

I didn’t want to get to long winded. He does deserve to be called out for his traitorous ways.

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by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice!

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

that's a rec

greatness. this some high brow shit right here

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by eastcoastatlas on Aug 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

All the new guys too. Jon Jones, King Mo and Mr Wonderful. They’ll ruin everything!

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Aug 6, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s not starmans flying forearm that you have to watch out for. it’s that totally sweet double drop-kick from the clinch to a back-flip that ya gotta watch out for

by Headkick on Aug 6, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Starman’s pretty good—I’m always bummed that “The Amazon” couldn’t adapt to the unified rules. His face munch was a legend in Pride.

by casey manrique on Aug 6, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, shit doesn’t get real until STARMAN unloads his super secret twisted flying lotus ninja decapitation strike. Then you know you’ve been in a war

by tramp942 on Aug 6, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HATE WRESTLIONG

Called it before the fight:
Cardio - The BIG question. Does Shane Carwin have cardio? He's never gone past the first round. His muscle mass is astounding and we all know that with all that muscle comes a need for the heart to pump fresh oxygenated blood to keep them from building lactic acid. He does train up in the thin air of Colorado, so that can't do anything but help. However, we have seen him pretty winded after a 1st round fight. Adrenaline dump or cardio problems? We won't find out the answer to that until someone takes him out of the first round.

by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 6, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I found this experience enjoyable.

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by Charles Awad on Aug 6, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Very nice

I’m going to be posting something related to this on WKR soon

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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Stuff!

’rec!!

I don’t think any one ever expertly explained the Chuck Liddell phenomenon like you did here.

Starman . . . damn, I should have ’rec this article for that alone.

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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 6, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

There's still time...

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by duck on Aug 6, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is awsome

I enjoyed the Saku bit the most.

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by KingAtRock on Aug 6, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

@ caption under BROCK’s pic.

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by MrTechnique420 on Aug 6, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks guys!!

Glad you enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun writing it.

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by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

with Coleman/Kerr, i wasn’t sure if you were being serious.

by the time you ended with Starman, i think i got it. heh.

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by bobthewriter on Aug 6, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Save the Sport!

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by xAtlasx on Aug 6, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Sakuraba actually did have an amateur wrestling background. So sez Wikipedia, anyway.

by JRN on Aug 6, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

At first I serious’d then I lol’d

by dreamers_12345 on Aug 6, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

haha thought you meant starman from Earthbound at first.

good times

by DirtyML on Aug 6, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

You could replace Star Man with King Mo.

He continues to show to any schmuck with a ton of strength, speed and world class wrestling experience can just lay down on top of someone and get a W.

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by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 6, 2010 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

no

Nothing can replace Star Man. Nothing.

ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.

by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

sonnen would be proud.

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by MMA-UK on Aug 6, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

This is awesome

I though I was going to click this write up and have to lay into someone, but on the other hand this is F-ing awesome. Good stuff man!

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Aug 6, 2010 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Game Over, Man

You just took off and nuked the entire site from orbit. It was the only way to be sure.

Perfect.

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by IKilled007 on Aug 6, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Well played on the Hicks/Ripley reference. That shit is awesome

by tramp942 on Aug 6, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

This thread could have been summed up in three words

Wrestlers …. Lack …. Budo

They are not unlike gingers, except they are Budoless rather than soulless. The only thing worse than a wrestler is a ginger wrestler. Ed Herman is evil incarnate.

by Steve4192 on Aug 6, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I should commit seppuku

This is a glaring oversight in my article. A ginger red-head really should have been included.

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by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF

a ginger wrestler.

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by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine if Tommy Speer had continued? He’d be champion of atleast 3 divisions right now.

by DirtyML on Aug 6, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

He’d be the champion of all 9 rings of hell.

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by Chris Barton on Aug 7, 2010 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol this was awesome. Applaud thyself.

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.

by Sam Cupitt on Aug 7, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

what a piece of shit article

it sounds like u guys want ultimate kickboxing

by GorillaUce on Aug 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude, you’re either trolling REAL hard, or you missed the joke. Did you even read the article.

Starman…I mean. Fucking Starman is in the article and you act like it’s serious.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you not acknowledge Star Man's

wrestling pedigree?

"I trained with Steven Seagal."

by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 7, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am serious

Deadly serious.

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by Chris Barton on Aug 7, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it sounds like u guys want ultimate kickboxing

I love groundwork, as long as neither guy has any takedowns worth a shit or any semblance of top control. Also, ultimate kickboxing is fun and all, but sprawling just ruins it. I want guys with no takedown defense fighting guys with awful takedowns. That’s what MMA is really all about.

by Steve4192 on Aug 7, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sir

are a genius and a scholar.

"Don’t quote old fucks to me" – Brent Brookhouse

by Chris Barton on Aug 8, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

After last night

This shit looks prescient. Last thing I want is a bunch of mat-humpers giving me more fights like Silva/Sonnen. Fuck that right in the ear.

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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

I feel like I should add Sonnen to this list, because he nearly single-handedly ruined MMA in that stinker of a fight.

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by Chris Barton on Aug 8, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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