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Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance

BOSTON - AUGUST 28:  Nate Diaz (R) connects with a right hook to the face of Marcus Davis during their UFC welterweight bout at the TD Garden on August 28 2010 in Boston Massachusetts.  (Photo by Josh Hedges/Zuffa LLC/Zuffa LLC via Getty Images)

Nate Diaz isn't your ordinary fighter. Walking in the shadow of his brother Nick and possessing the surname of Diaz within the context of mixed martial arts certainly brings about high expectations, but Nate has lived up to those expectations. He's a scrapper, a survivor, willing to fight anyone, anywhere, anytime, over anything. He fits the mold of a Diaz perfectly with great jiu-jitsu and boxing skills, and he has that unique gameness that only the Diaz brothers embody.

He's also inherited family weaknesses, relying on punching prowess and offense over defending counter punches and takedowns. Those weaknesses, however, seem to be disappearing for both himself and his brother, and we may be on the verge of seeing the Diaz name in the spotlight.

Success may be on Nate Diaz's doorstep sooner rather than later. In his second performance at welterweight, Diaz looked nearly unstoppable against the aged former boxer Marcus Davis. Battering him from a distance, it became almost comical as the fight went on. Davis had no answer, and his bob and weaving only planted his head on a more steady pedestal for Diaz to punch. After two rounds of action, Diaz seemed content with the damage he had done on the feet, and quickly worked Davis to the floor and submitted him. It was vintage Nick Diaz, but now his brother is putting those skills on display in dominating fashion inside the Octagon.

Following the fight, Diaz hinted that he may want to try his hand at battling back at lightweight, probably because he feels he won the bout against Maynard. In retrospect, I also felt Diaz got the better of Maynard slightly, and Diaz certainly presents problems for everyone at lightweight with his reach and improving boxing skills. Unfortunately, he's never been able to crack the upper echelon of the division -- most notably because he couldn't defend the spladle against Joe Stevenson.

I suppose the better question is whether or not he can continue his success in the UFC's welterweight division, and if so -- will he stay there in order to attain that success? Marcus Davis doesn't even rank on our USAT/SBN rankings, but I believe Diaz could give guys like Ricardo Almeida, Mike Swick, and countless others scattered throughout the division a run for their money. The problem for Diaz lies in his wrestling defense. Fights aren't five rounds unless they're championship battles, and perhaps he could outlast wrestlers in that format. Unfortunately, guys like Jake Ellenberger and Mike Pierce may prove to be roadblocks.

So, where does that leave Nate, a fighter with a lot of potential who's only 25 years old? I think Cesar Gracie's team is solid, but I wouldn't mind seeing the camp bring in powerful top control wrestlers that are a bit beefier for him. His length is a huge advantage when he's on the bottom, and I've been a big fan of the active guard that Diaz can implement. But strength in the top position is a problem for almost any jiu-jitsu fighter, and Diaz is included in that group.

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Furthermore, I'm sure fans will argue that Davis and Markham weren't overly challenging match-ups for him, and perhaps the gun is being jumped as to whether Diaz is actually as good as he's looked against sub-par competition. The losses to Stevenson, Maynard, and Guida point to an entirely different opinion.

Fortunately, Nate has a lot of time, and he has one of the best camps in MMA behind him in his progression to become a top fighter. With every performance, he's becoming one of the true fan favorites, and that should, at the very least, earn him solid paydays and great stylistic match-ups. But he can fight at a much higher level, and I expect we'll see some match-ups that will prove whether or not he's improved enough to be a force near the top of one of these divisions.

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Diaz vs. Almeida would be a good fight, though if they could somehow put together Diaz vs. Hughes I’d be in heaven.

by MMABookworm on Aug 31, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I see no way Hughes would accept that fight but I’d love to see it.

by ufc4 on Aug 31, 2010 2:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i think nate is better suited at lw as well

he still looks real small at ww and i see him struggling agaisnt the wrestlers there

however i think he beat gray maynard who could very well be the next champ at that division

diaz vs kenny florian really interests me, or diaz vs sotiropolous

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Aug 31, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Diaz vs. Sotiropoulos would be great.

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by Richard Wade on Aug 31, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like some of these recommendations for sure. He has a lot of options, and the UFC can use him quite a bit.

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by Leland Roling on Aug 31, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing what job opportunities a guy has in this here fight game when he actually comes to well, fight

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by eastcoastatlas on Aug 31, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Diaz is a very good fighter, but there are lots of guys who could beat him

Melvin Guillard was beating him up before he got silly.

Nate Diaz is talented and I think he could sneak into the top 10 – 15 of both weight classes, but he will always be a victim of styles making fights. I see him as a very high level gate keeper, but I don’t see him fighting for the title at WW. Anything can happen at LW these days though.

by truck on Aug 31, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

How's Guillard gonna beat him?

I guess he could out-wrestle him, but he seems like a sloppy wrestler. He seems sloppy in most things aside from one-punch knock outs. And he’s not going to knock out Nate, no one is.

Over 15 minutes, Diaz wins 10 out of 10 times against Guillard.

by Gideon Jay on Aug 31, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except that Guillard was outstriking him in their fight fight until he got stupid and shot right into a guillotine.

by filipinomix2oo0 on Aug 31, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget Guillard is extremely talented on his feet and with his power. The point is, he made a mistake and a better fighter took advantage of it. That he got the guillotine when offered just shows that Diaz has a decent fight IQ. A good fighter who is getting beaten sees an opportunity and takes it. He stuck in there and took some great shots from Guillard and to me that just makes it all the more impressive

by Steven Abbott on Aug 31, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

diasz is one of the slowest starters in all of mma

he hot droped by marcus davis rightr away if you didnt notice that ether………….o and diaz beats guillard 9/10 times

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by GOLDIGGAH on Aug 31, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He started slow

for the entire fight. Guillard looked like he was on his way to winning the fight before he got cocky and reckless.

by truck on Aug 31, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

so he looked like shit............untill he won.

riiight.

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not saying Diaz sucks.

I just think it is silly to say Guillard wouldn’t have a chance.

by truck on Aug 31, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i stated he had a chance

a 1/10 chance lol he fought the worst diaz ive even seen and he still lost in 2 rounds

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by GOLDIGGAH on Sep 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

"So you're tellin' me there's a chance!"

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by RolloTomasi on Sep 1, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmfao

awesome

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by GOLDIGGAH on Sep 1, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

While he’s looked better not fighting at LW IMO, he’s just going to have a hard time breaking into that upper echelon of WWs who are bigger and stronger than him.

by Hardcase on Aug 31, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rally your troops for Diaz.

I would love to see Maynard/Diaz rematch. If for no other reason than to put an exclamation point after what was a clear Maynard win.
Do you watch fights or just spew for your heroes blindly? Maynard played Diaz nonsense game and won.
I am sure you had predicted Florian over Maynard by submission. Didn’t turn out well for you, did it?
Stockton rules, huh bad boy?

by Tehachipi on Sep 1, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love the diaz's cause of their unintentional humor

their interviews are so fuckin funny, but yea i agree with what ur saying nate came out ready to fuck shit up this fight plus hes only 25 i think he has tremendous upside

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by milk72 on Aug 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate is that way before every fight

Both Nick and Nate are. I actually thought he was pretty tame in the weigh ins before the fight. I think he gave Davis some respect. Respect is something the Diaz’s don’t give out too often.

by WAR DIAZ on Aug 31, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the weigh-ins were in a hospital, problems would happen.

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by Leland Roling on Aug 31, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the weighins it was kind of hard to boo the guy when I had Gilbert Melendez a row behind me lol. But the Diaz bros always come prepared to fight so I enjoy them regardless.

by seanerk88 on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anyone remember what 2pac song he came out to? I’m assuming Ambitionz (everyone uses this)

by I Can't Feel My Face on Aug 31, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

same with my friend

he has always hated nate but after that ass whooping my friend textd me and was like" holy crap that was awesome"

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by GOLDIGGAH on Sep 1, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

For as long as he wants to do STANDANDBANG

I say give him the winner of Condit/Hardy (in other words, Condit).

I’ve given up on Swick and am just waiting for the magical 3rd loss to get him cut.

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

you hate Swick?

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swick is overrated

He started off as some wild swinging maniac, then graduated to the Swick-o-tine, ended up being dull as hell, and now when he’s faced credible opposition he loses badly. He should’ve been knocked out in the Hardy fight (Dan went for the takedown instead, which irritated the crap out of me), and then he stepped up for Kos to fight Thiago and Paulo took him to school.

Mike is nothing more than a gatekeeper.

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by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst was when he beat Goulet, then was saying he was in line for a shot at the title because of how impressive it was.

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by Leland Roling on Aug 31, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

you realize he hasen't been healthy right?

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m hoping he’s going to go back to how he was before dropping to ww and getting sick.

by av1o3 on Aug 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swick is going back up to 185.

I would love Diaz vs. Hardy.

by MMABookworm on Aug 31, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

…Can’t stand Swick either, the whole Texas t-shirt thing bothers the shit out of me among others. But I really dig Diaz at 170 and a fight with Condit or Paulo would be muy bueno.

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by WeaponElDeem on Aug 31, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say give him the loser of Condit/Hardy. I don’t think he should be in line for a guy who could be considered in the top 4-5 in the ww division, which the Condit/Hardy should be in my opinion. Because of his name and marketability, both as a rising talent and his personality, I think he deserves to get the loser. If most others in his position beat Davis, they wouldn’t get that big of a jump.

by Steven Abbott on Aug 31, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decisions

I think Nate won the Maynard fight.

Also don’t forget that guida fight was a joke. For LITERALLY 12-13 minutes of that fight Guida had a rear waist lock or held him against the fence not advancing position or throwing even a single strike and idiots thought he looked active because his hair was jostling around when nate was landing short punch/elbows and won every other second of the fight. 30-29 Imo.

by Brent Nahmias on Aug 31, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

What the hell are you talking about?

Guida clearly won the Diaz fight.

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guida got the one big slam, that is the only reason he won that fight. If you remember Guida was done by the end of the second round.

by WAR DIAZ on Aug 31, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

  • Yeah, Stevenson got the W but didn’t really do anything to brag about.
  • Guida could not hang with him standing and just controlled him on the ground.
  • The Maynard fight? There’s a reason why Dana White gave the title shot to Edgar instead of Gray. The fight really wasn’t special and I think it was a draw or I would give the nod to Diaz.

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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 31, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the question is: if Diaz cannot deal with the better wrestlers at 155, wtf is he going to do in a division with Hughes, Koschek, Fitch, Almeida, and that GSP fellow. At 155, he can legitimately contend for the title… at 170 he’d be lucky if he got the Dan Hardy treatment and is spoonfed standup fighters for a while before being exposed by the first wrestler he faces.

Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.

by Stanlee on Aug 31, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a given.

 Those wrestlers will cream him at 170lbs. unless his takedown defense gets better. But he’s in a unique position where he can fight in both divisions and put on great fights. Look at Lytle, he’s about putting on great shows. He knows that he’s not going to compete for a title shot.

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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 31, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he can compete for the title at 155, given how close the Guida and Maynard fights were. I get that he could cherry pick fights at 155 and 170… beat up guys like Davis, Swick, maybe Denis Siver and Dan Hardy… sure. But Diaz must realize his only shot at winning a title is at 155 now that BJ lost his crown.

Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.

by Stanlee on Aug 31, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 31, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stenson should brag. His grappling was tailor-made to specifically counter Diaz. It was some of the cleanest gameplanning and preparation I’ve seen in a while.

by judonerd on Aug 31, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly I remember it too.

"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight what you saw, in the ring"

by crinow on Aug 31, 2010 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Diaz vs Hardy Diaz vs Condit Diaz vs Joe Lauzon Diaz vs Clay (REMATCH!!!)

So many great options.

I love Ceaser Gracie fight team. It’s a team of animals!
If Nate can continue to improve, the sky is the limit. Dude’s got a granite chin.

I hope he keeps passing his piss tests…

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Great write up

First thing I have read on here about Nate after that unbelievable performance.

by WAR DIAZ on Aug 31, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

took long enough :P

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see him back at 155

Considering the Maynard fight was that close and Edgar lost to Maynard that division is now a clusterfuck. I think a fight with BJ would start a title run for one of the two and given Diaz’ length it might make for a compelling boxing/kickboxing match.

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by donkeypunch on Aug 31, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I am with you, but

I would like to see Nate vs BJ at 170. I know BJ doesn’t want that, but I like Nate at 170. He looks fresher, and more powerful. At 155 his chest looks sucken in and not healthy.

by WAR DIAZ on Aug 31, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

155 or 170?

Nate at 155

Nate at 170

Looks mostly the same to me.

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a character! You gotta love the Diaz brothers.

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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 31, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

at 155, you have to see how thin his legs are. I’ve seen him after cutting weight and I’ve seen him not cut weight and honestly, 170 is where he belongs. It’s hard to see how emaciated he looks at 155. My wife is not a huge mma fan by any means, but she loves the Diaz brothers, and she was the first to point out how sickly he looked when we watched him fight Maynard at the patriot center.

by JaeeJaee on Aug 31, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very weird posture/stance…

"I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

by 3PA on Aug 31, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think diaz should stay at 170 he looks to have more gas, stronger, and more active. He is only 25 so i think if he starts to beef up a little by 28 he will be a beast. On a side note I think Davis will be gone after his next fight. Unless they feed him some uk guy that should not be fighting in the ufc anyway.

by J smooth 420 on Aug 31, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Give him Sotiropoulos

I know they’re not considered the same tier of fighter, but this could be a really exciting matchup.

by Confucius on Aug 31, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Diaz should not go back to 155

He should fill out his frame a little and stay at 170. He’s doing more damage with his punches at 170, he’ll be able to add some muscle to help fight off takedowns, and he’s at an age where his frame will be filling out some more.

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on Aug 31, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

The only think I hate more then failing a piss test

Is a Diaz brother.

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by We All Hate Caleb on Aug 31, 2010 2:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Doesn't he train with Jake Shields?...

I think Cesar Gracie’s team is solid, but I wouldn’t mind seeing the camp bring in powerful top control wrestlers that are a bit beefier for him.

by jafotinatos on Aug 31, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes Sir and Melendez

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by WeaponElDeem on Aug 31, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless I'm mistaken...
wouldn’t mind seeing the camp bring in powerful top control wrestlers that are a bit beefier

..Jake Shields doesn’t do ‘beefy’.

by ToffeeA on Aug 31, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does dreamy.

But if you are stupid, you will be beaten with a stick - Proverbs 10:13

by Ominous on Aug 31, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He’s a scrapper, a survivor, willing to fight anyone, anywhere, anytime, over anything.

I think he’d fight Mayhem if he was given the option.

by truck on Aug 31, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I like him at Welter

He’s been drained in his last few bouts at L.W. Plus those smaller guy’s keep getting underneath him for takedowns. At Welter he can come in with energy and use his pitter pat boxing style on a pretty weak striking division. i love to watch him fight either way, they just have to match him up right.

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7. Gegard Mousasi
8. Melvin Manhoef
9. Takanori Gomi
10. Nate Diaz
11. Dave Branch

by MasterWhiteTiger on Aug 31, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t see how anyone can still buy into the Diaz brothers hype they are basically the same fighter with the same glaring weakness. They can’t beat wrestlers, Nate was tossed around by Stevenson and basically made helpless against Guida at WW he’s at an even bigger disadvantage against top wrestlers. Neither guy is ever going to ammount to anything if they can’t fix what is a huge hole in their game. So while they’ll win fights and fans they will always lose to the same type fighters they seem to be the only people who don’t get that.

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by Nightwhistler on Aug 31, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

you don't seem to get the fact that he's 25 and improving.

what was true 2 years ago may not be true today…

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diaz could take out anyone

I’d give Diaz a strong shot against any WW, including GSP — precisely because he has such a great style vs. wrestlers. His problem at LW was that he lost just a bit too much power with his tall frame. At WW, his jab gives anyone sweats, and he’s less prone to getting pinned down to the mat.

by superflat on Aug 31, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

He has a great style against wrestlers? what fights have you been watching he’s just like his brother good at everything except stopping takedowns. That makes you DOA in both the LW and WW division which are packed with guys who can take them down and make them look inept.

"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Aug 31, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

things change....

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