UFC 118 in Review: Frankie Edgar Is for Real, Gray Maynard Is Coming for Him
Jonathan Snowden is saying that Frankie Edgar's consecutive five round wins over B.J. Penn prove that B.J. Penn isn't all that and never was.
That's a typical MMA fan approach -- throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The baby here is Frankie Edgar's phenomenal win over B.J. Penn. I'm not going to take anything away from B.J. He's still got good punching, strong take down defense and incredible jiu jitsu. He even showed some of that against Edgar.
But what matters is what Edgar showed:
- Great gameplanning and the discipline to stick to it
Edgar realized that he had a serious speed advantage over B.J. and he used it brilliantly, coming in and out with a variety of punches and kicks to a variety of targets. - A complete game
Not only did Edgar dominate the kickboxing range, he used his wrestling well to get take downs early and often and not only made no mistakes on the ground, managing to escape some very dangerous positions with mad scrambling skills. - Confidence
Edgar and the judges at UFC 112 may have been the only ones who thought he won the first fight, but he came into 118 confident and loose. He used that in-cage comfort to dominate B.J. from bell to bell, immediately shooting in for a take down when Penn came out chasing him around the cage.
Every fighter has styles that they simply cannot figure out. ...
Frankie Edgar knew how to hurt BJ Penn, and for once, a fighter who was smaller but was able to use that lack of size to his advantage in the way of speed. Edgar is a rare occasion where he is small for the weight class, but his sheer strength helps even things out, as his takedowns are lightning fast and strong. The "small" Edgar was even able to pick Penn up and slam him to the canvas. Edgar's speed was able to help him set up the takedowns and keep him away from Penn's educated hands, his wrestling and strength was able to take BJ down and keep him from gaining advantageous positions. To put it in simple terms, Frankie Edgar has the stylistic answer to the riddle of BJ Penn.
In their first fight, Maynard showed why he is called "The Bully." He outwrestled Edgar, putting him down and down hard over and over again and then he started hurting him. By the end of the fight, Edgar seemed to be in the wrong weight division.
Enjoy your well-earned title reign Frankie, Gray Maynard is coming for that belt.
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i think maynard wins this
but if he doesnt id love to see edgar take on jose aldo
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Would love to see Edgar/Aldo.
But while it may be early for predictions, right now I’m also thinking Gray beats Frankie again. I’d like to be convinced otherwise though. I know I’d be rooting hard for Edgar in the rematch.
Me too
Does Edgar go into back to back title defenses as an underdog?
Has that ever happened before?
Nah, ‘cause Gray and Penn haven’t fought before. They have trained together though. And from what I recall, Gray wasn’t too eager to get into contention while BJ was champ.
I still think Penn destroys Maynard
Styles make fights and I think stylistically they may have each other beat.
No
Snowden says BJ is overrated and he is now the gatekeeper for lightweight and Welterweight. He sucks and always has.
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It depends if it is a big fight or not.... Penn only losses in big fights.
He is the best when it doesn’t matter. Or something like that anyways…
Actually it depends
on which Maynard shows up VS Penn but to be honest, Maynard’s bullying styling and superb wrestling could get it done against Penn. Albeit in a rather boring fashion.
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actually no
wrestler vs wrestler tends to = barnburner.
See Edgar vs Griffin, Griffin vs Guida, etc etc. There should be lots of scrambles, lots of reversals, no lay and pray.
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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 29, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It was mostly active; Grey committed to chasing Frank down, and really hit some seriously solid takedowns including a couple of slams. Edgar moved quickly, like he always does, but Maynard really committed to stalking and cornering him – which he doesn’t always do – and on the ground was pretty active and really ground Edgar down. It was still Grey Maynard – win via being a big, strong wrestler with great top control – but he HAD to engage or he’d get peppered like BJ, and he did show more aggression than he sometimes does.
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Not…..Neither of these guys could finish a slice of pizza if they tried.
by ChuteLegend on Aug 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Unless you're from Jersey or NYC you don't know shit about pizza anyways
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha.
I’m from West Hartford, CT close enough.
by ChuteLegend on Aug 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
So you know what I’m saying…you can’t get a slice of pizza around the rest of the country you get bullshit like this
And that’s just wrong.
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's called a "party cut" but if I go to a party and you hand me a square of that shit
I’m punching you in the face. I want a slice of pizza and not some midwestern bullshit.
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
If Chicago deep-dish = midwestern bullshit...
Then those oversized “slices” of cardboard you have in NY and NJ are dogshit.
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by WarToney on Aug 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh you mean the abortion in a pie crust?
Yeah I’ll stick with real pizza.
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s out of line.
Chicago deep dish pizza is fucking sweet. It belongs in a separate category than real pizza. If anyone from outside of NY* or Chicago claims they have good pizza they should be slapped.
- For pizza purposes, NJ is a suburb of NY, and all of CT is regarded as a suburb of MA. These borders can be moved in other discussions, but this is the way it is for pizza.
Something I have noticed is that Chinese Food sucks outside of NY/NJ
What’s with the rest of the country missing out on good pizza and chinese food?
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
thisredengine don't know pizza
If I wanted s*** on a shingle then I’d rather head to Home Depot. Do yourself a favor and man up to a slice of Deep dish and dig in. Your obsession with disdain for ONE of our city’s many delights borders on insanity.
Here, check this out. Lou Malnati’s, they even FedEx to your Joisey exit.
http://www.tastesofchicago.com/category/Lou_Malnatis_Pizza
When you’ve had real deepdish and not a mouth full ‘o lies, come back on here and tell everybody how you’ve been wrong for so long.
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by JAYGK95 on Aug 29, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've had Giordano's
Something about eating pizza with a fork and knife and not being able to walk into a pizza place and just get two slices and a coke means Chicago Deep Dish isn’t pizza. It may be nice every once in a while but when you talk pizza you mean NY.
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can respect that, but you really need to try Lou Malnati's pizza
No, I don’t work for them, but it’s apples to oranges. As for myself, I like the NYC/NJ? thin slice on occasion, but it’s really difficult to find in Chicago.
As I see it, if you’re doing NYC “Thin Slice”, then you’re looking at taking a ‘slice’ folding it towards the center and watching the pepperoni float on the hot grease towards your mouth. That’s delicious!
For Chicago Style, you’re better off taking another slice and putting it on top of the original slice and making a pizza sandwich out of it.
Dude...
that’s wrong beyond belief. NY pizza was some of the nastiest pizza I’ve had in my life.
Give me Chicago pizza, it’s also not all deep dish.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
There is actually some pretty good pizza in CT. Greeks run every fucking shop up my way and their shit generally sucks, but the further south and west you go, you start running into some good shit. I’ve had some good pizza out of New Haven and when I was at school out in Middletown.
by Brent Ducharme on Aug 29, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah you retards put clams on pizza
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The fuck are you on about? You been watching too much Mystic Pizza or some shit. I don’t doubt that they do that shit down by the coast. Those people are fucking strange and think they’re from Martha’s Vineyard.
by Brent Ducharme on Aug 29, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m about to move to St. Paul. Now there’s a motherfucking place I’m concerned won’t have good pizza.
by Brent Ducharme on Aug 29, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude I'm moving to Austin, TX
I found one place that makes “New York Style”. It wasn’t terrible but I’m gonna be going insane if I can’t get a good slice.
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
there's also mediocre
chicago style pizza. lots of great food here but pizza and italian are definitely weak spots.
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I had it in New Haven cause the girl I was dating said it was the best pizza
I was offended. Pizza is Sauce, Cheese, Pepperoni.
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously what kinda sick fuck puts clams on pizza?
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I mean I’ll give chicago props for being alright…I’m just not a fan of sausage which is the staple.
BUT CHEESE AND CLAMS!?
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It's about time.
For the record sausage is amazing.
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by WarToney on Aug 29, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
on pizza.
;)
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by WarToney on Aug 29, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. You were just dating some misguided girl who didn’t know shit. Clam pizza is unforgivable.
As I said, I have to admit that most areas are hit or miss. Middletown and the surrounding area was fairly consistent though. I’m probably also giving the area some extra points for the Italian restaurants more generally, but what can you do? I went to school with a bunch of rich kids who bugged out over the sheer volume of Italians around. It was great. Plus it’s the hometown of Willie Pep.
by Brent Ducharme on Aug 29, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting discussion...
To each their own, really. I can understand because pizza is my downfall. Any diet or health kick can be instantly ruined if this kryptonyte is put in front of me. I don’t know about the best in the world (I haven’t tried them all yet), but this is by far THE best pizza that I have had in Cali…
Wine with pizza,
I’ll never truly understand California…
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Pizza only gets paired with 2 things
Coke or Beer…also that’s a bullshit pizza…where’s the quail egg?
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 30, 2010 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand this mindset
A fight doesn’t need a finish to be exciting and just because a fight has a finish doesn’t mean it’s not boring.
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Its more so
I don’t feel Frankie and Gray lay it on the line and actively work to finish the fight IMHO. Someone like a Chael Sonnen albeit has had a lot of decisions however I feel he is going 100% trying to finish the fight . I’ll state again IMHO
by ChuteLegend on Aug 29, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re suggesting that Chael Sonnen is exciting and Frankie Edgar is boring? I don’t know how to process that.
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Sounds awakard
I know….I guess what im trying to say is stalling but Frankie doesn’t really exhibit that either. Maybe I am just biased :p
by ChuteLegend on Aug 29, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You're operating under the mindset that everything you think is and isn't boring
applies to everyone else. People watch for different reasons and find different things enjoyable to watch.
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reasoned, intelligent analysis that doesn’t shit all over one fighter.
that’s how it’s done.
of course, since this wasn’t written merely to inflame, it won’t get near the pageviews as Snowden’s hit piece. too bad, too.
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by bobthewriter on Aug 29, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Snowden's style and piece reek of yellow dog journalism
I just can’t stand this style of writing. It’s poorly informed and heavily opinionated. Looks like snowden attended the school of modern journalism.
by JAYGK95 on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn’t that what an opinion piece is?!
by ManicPreacher on Aug 29, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Opinion pieces are part of media and only serves the purpose of stimulating discussion. They always have been. Its really quite undisputable.
Whether or not it is Jonathan’s real opinion, it served its purpose didn’t it? Accept his role as a “shock jock” and you’ll be able to sleep easier. If you can’t, well then maybe you need to step back and re-evaluate the way you read articles and maybe don’t believe everything you read.
As for the “fail” comment. Please! That’s so 5 years ago. Now run along and pack your lunch for school.
by ManicPreacher on Aug 30, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions
the point of the site is for fans to have fun talking about MMA
the crusty old sportswriter tearing it up in an opinion piece has a long history in sports journalism. Snowden’s a fine practicioner of the inflammatory op-ed.
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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 29, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He forced everyone to have an emotional reaction, and then everyone started choosing sides. I think Snowden did exactly what he intended, it is great for BE, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I personally hated his argument and considered finding his home and lighting a bag of dog doo doo on his front porch.
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Anybody got a gif of Frankie slamming BJ?
Everybody in the bar I was at gasped when that happened and it was kind of the moment where everyone realized BJ was in some serious trouble.
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I’m really happy about his performance. hardly anyone gave him credit after the first fight, even though the fight was really close and could be scored either way (I scored it for edgar 3-2).
most of the previews predicted him being slaughtered this time. glad he didn’t let that affect him, just put out a real great gameplan.
Maynard definately decisively beat Edgar the first time, but I think Edgar has evolved quite a bit since then. Since neither guy is a real active finisher, many fans feel it appropriate to shit all over them, but the hell with them. I’m actually very interested to see if Edgar can avenge his only loss in what might still be a difficult style clash for him.
by joshyboy708 on Aug 29, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Edgar utilizes lateral movement a lot more than he did in his first fight against Gray Maynard. Maynard really doesn’t look like he is improving very much, and Edgar looks to have improved a lot since their first fight. I think that Edgar would win in a rematch against Maynard.
by chrisbboy82 on Aug 29, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Very good analysis...
Thanks for giving Frankie his due, I’m worried about his fight with Maynard too. Here’s hoping Frankie has improved as much as it seems he has since their first scrap.
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by WarToney on Aug 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
Styles make fights
And Penn has no answers for Edgar’s style.
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My problem with Frankie Edgar, and the reason I wanted Penn to win the first fight and against in the rematch is that while, hypothetically, Edgar might ten out of ten fights against Penn, I don’t think he could finish any of them. I don’t like fighters who play the game to a decision or for whatever reason don’t have the tools to end the contest.
Penn early didn’t look like he’d learned a thing since the first fight. He still faded visibly and resigned himself to counter-punching (again) for most of the fight. His luck turned a bit when he came into Edgar’s space and took him down but that was too little too late.
I’d pick Maynard to take the belt from Frankie though. Penn makes Edgar look small, Edgar will make Maynard look like The Hulk.
Forget Maynard
Gomi is coming for whoever has that belt! I’d really like to see Gomi vs BJ now, seems like the right time.
Frankie Edge-gar
Not to sound negative, but I really did not like UFC 118. Except for the Joe Lauzon, Randy and the Diaz fight it was all wrestling without finishing power.
Edgar is great at collecting points with little attacks and takedowns, but he will NEVER finish a fight. He wore BJ out by running from him most of the time. BJ had a dumb game plan and his corner was completely useless. I think BJ is over it and just wants to run his website and chill in Hawaii.
Maynard is going to do EXACTLY what he did to Florian and lay on top of Edgar and take his belt.
At welterweight. GSP and Koscheck are gonna hump for 5 rounds, then the winner gets to hump Fitch or Jake Shields.
am I missing something here or what?
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by nostraboris on Aug 29, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Every fighter has styles that they simply cannot figure out. …
Shane Mosley > Vernon Forrest as a fighter but Forrest beat Shane twice. Vernon Forrest > Ricardo Mayorga as a fighter but Mayorga beat Forrest twice.
Bernard Hopkins > Jermain Taylor as a fighter but Taylor beat Hopkins twice (although both decisions were debatable).
Iran Barkley went 2-0 over Thomas Hearns
Sometimes guys run into styles that they can’t figure out
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 29, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
No
Everyone you mentioned was overrated.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hearns, Hopkins and Mosley are/were overrated? Either you’re poking at Snowden’s point (which makes sense) or you’re a fucking crazy person
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 29, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mosley was overrated
I mean….sure he knocked out Margarito, twice beat DLH, knocked out Vargas twice, knocked out Mayorga, but that Mayweather loss proves he’s overrated.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
Overrated by who
I’m pretty sure he was rated just about right by most and hardly anyone was giving him a shot of beating Mayweather in the first place.
Floyd is either 1st or 2nd in the boxer of the decade lists so no shame in losing to him.
Mosley was also 38 when they fought,pretty ancient for a smaller guy in boxing.
That was a jab (no pun intended) at Snowden
Mosley is awesome.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
There’s a key difference between those boxers and BJ Penn.
by Jonathan Snowden on Aug 29, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Citing victories over Vargas and Mayorga as being historically important wins for Mosley shows me that you’re looking at boxrec more than being able to properly interpret history. Both Vargas and Mayorga were well past their best days as pro fighters when he beat them. His wins over Oscar and Margarito are the most valuable as far as determining his place in boxing history, but you can’t go ignoring the fact that he lost to Winky Wright twice or to Vernon Forrest twice. In meaningful welterweight contests, he’s 3-4. Ain’t bad, but its not nearly as impressive a record as what Pernell Whitaker was able to put together, much less Sugar Ray Leonard or something. And as a result he’s not put in their class.
Meanwhile, BJ Penn is was argued to be the greatest lightweight ever. What is the argument that he is opposed to arguing for Edgar right now? Its a problem of the sport’s youth. What’s clear though is that unless BJ Penn does something dramatic, he’s never going to be the best of this era, much less any era. He might be Shane Mosley, but he sure as hell won’t be Sugar Ray Robinson.
by VirtualBalboa on Aug 29, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Either you’re poking at Snowden’s point (which makes sense) or you’re a fucking crazy person
Go with your gut.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 29, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My gut says both...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 30, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Donald Curry is better all time than Lloyd Honeyghan. He lost to him. He’s also not an all time great in spite of having the talent to be.
BJ Penn probably lost his place in history as one of the great MMA fighters of all time as a result of being beaten twice by Edgar. Now, Edgar might be able to beat the odds and retain and make a big run for himself in the division, but what damage has been done to Penn now will only grow over time. There’s nothing wrong with that conclusion at all.
by VirtualBalboa on Aug 29, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
After last night, I am on the Edgar bandwagon
I was impressed to say the least. I’m excited to see the rematch just because i want to see if Edgar can correct some of the mistakes he made in the first fight.
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Maynard's good...but..
I like Maynard, he’s a good solid fighter, but despite his win over Edgar, he doesn’t have the wrestling advantage over Edgar that he did over Florian. And in fact, in my opinion, Edgar is the superior wrestler and he’s much quicker putting his moves together. Edgar just seems to be getting better and better each time out and I think Maynard will go down next time. Boring post I know, lol but thats all I can come up with..
Penn took Edgar down twice..Maynards wrestling is far more superior than BJ’s in my opinion.
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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 29, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Did you just come here to see what the fuck was going on?
I’m on the verge of being ashamed. Meh.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 29, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Which other Champs have not faced their Kryptonite?
Has GSP faced every style yet?…..I imagine Fitch/Alves/Penn would have the big three covered.
Overeem, certainly hasn’t faced any strong wrestlers.
Fedor has certainly faced every style, with perhaps the exception of huge (265 lb+) fast wrestlers.
Brock showed a weakness to monster punching power although one fight can’t show a pattern.
Silva has a hard time dealing with big agressive wrestlers….at 185 anyways.
Has Aldo faced every style yet?
GSP is an alien sent here to humiliate our men and mate with our women
Neither Fedor nor Overeem have have a legit elite HW MMA wrestler who has the whole MMA Wrestling package.
Anderson has faced one elite wrestler (although not an elite MMA Wrestler) and was largely dominated.
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"Anderson has faced one elite wrestler (although not an elite MMA Wrestler) "
That’s utter horseshit. If Sonnen isn’t an elite MMA Wrestler, then I muse have been on an 18 month crack-binge leading up to their fight. What Sonnen did to Okami, Marquardt and Silva himself seemed like elite MMA Wrestling.
Also, amazed as I am to defend Fedor, Coleman and Randleman were definitely legit elite MMA wrestlers when he faced them.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Wooooooooooooow.
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I have to thoroughly disagree
While Edgar has fought extremely well and better than many thought he was able to. I don’t buy the theory that he is Penn’s kryptonite and that it is because of his world class performance that he won. I remember long ago a famous MMA trainer once said that BJ Penn will go as far as he wants to, and the only person that could beat him was himself.
It is no secret that BJ has had a fluctuating mental strength and will for as long as he has been active in martial arts. And these last 2 fights with Edgar was clear proof. It the 1st fight it was clear from the beginning that Penn was not fighting with the aggression, speed or urgency that he displayed in his previous fights with Sanchez, Florian, Sherk and Stevenson. There were subtle indications before this fight that he would do no better the 2nd time, if not worse because he admitted himself that he was tired of training, and in so many words he was telling us that he did not train as much as he did in previous fights. And this showed in the fight last night as well. While he was able to get down to 155 easily, he did not look at all solid and downright lethargic almost all fight long. It wasn’t that Edgars movement and speed was so much greater, it was that Penn’s was so much worse.
Today I watched his fight with Florian on the same screen with the fight last night with Edgar(Simultaneously). I would invite anyone to do the same and tell me that Penn was fighting anywhere near the same. It is clearly never been a case of talent and ability with Penn. He is just at another crossroads in his life with a new wife and kids playing in a nice big house by the beach.
But I don’t think many here will say that Edgar would be able to have the same success against say a Diego Sanchez or Kenny Florian, and most will be betting that he will again lose to Maynard, who appears on the horizon as the next dominant(albeit boring) lightweight king.
I have a friend in sales who is the smartest person i’ve ever met. He makes a great living, his wife is able to stay home and raise his two children, and he has a ton of free time. He could make so much more money if he actually applied himself, but instead he chooses to work only as hard and as much as necessary to fool management and provide for his family.
Some will argue this is a waste of talent, but perhaps the real talent is successfully fooling everyone while spending the majority of his time doing exactly what he chooses to do.
Bj is a crazy talent, but he seemingly doesn’t have the drive others may have. I don’t fault him for that at all. New family, HAwaiian islands, money to spare…I don’t fault him at all.
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight what you saw, in the ring"
Bullshit.
I don’t like Edgar at all, but you can’t take this away from him. He looked fantastic. He beat him, and he beat him bad.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Read what I wrote, and do what I did before you mouth off
otherwise, ignorance is bliss
Before I mouth off? Wow, prissy douchebag alert.
You just said “Once he was hungry, now he isn’t, that’s all.”
“that’s all,” implies that there is nothing else to it, that is the only way the fight went how it did. Hence me saying bullshit. Don’t be a dick for no reason.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Aug 29, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And ignorant too
You obviously didn’t read my long post above either, so your just an average troll. You wont last long. That comment was in response to the one above which responded to mine, so the whole thing blew right over your head and you look like a real idiot, you feel better?
by SimplePsych on Aug 29, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't responding to your long post above, now was I?
No, the comment was not in response to anything that was a response to yours, because you didn’t use the reply function correctly you fucking retard. You posted a new comment thread.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Aug 29, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You echoed my sentiments exactly. BJ Penn was never overrated, it is just that Frankie Edgar seems to have the kryptonite for BJ’s skill-set.
Nobody has ever claimed BJ was overrated
But before you all start calling bullshit with nothing to back it up, 1st do what I did and watch some fights side by side simultaneously and come up with a valid argument instead of just mouthing insults and stating the obvious.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. For one, this guy said nothing to you or saying bullshit to anything. I think you need to fucking learn how SB Nation works with replies. He’s responding to the article, and as for “nobody has ever claimed BJ was overrated” are you dense? really? There is a front page post RIGHT NOW written by an established writer calling him overrated.
Also, where did he mouth insults? Where did he call bullshit on anything? I’m so fucking confused by your reply right now lmao.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
your a troll and your reported and I will ignore you from now on.
by SimplePsych on Aug 29, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
OH GOD I'M REPORTED BY THIS GUY WHO'S BEING A DICK ALL OVER THE SITE
You replied to a guy who said nothing to you and basically called him an idiot.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Aug 29, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you two just report each other?
Then get it on like we know you want to and shack up in a nice one bedroom number just above sherdog.com?
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.

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