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BJ Penn's Coveted Legacy On the Line Against Frankie Edgar

"When I first started fighting I thought I was God's gift to fighting... I thought I would go 100-0 with 100 knockouts. I look at my record and I can't believe that I have six losses. It just blows me away." BJ Penn

When BJ Penn enters the Octagon Saturday night in Boston, it will be the first time in more than two-and-a-half years he has done so without being the UFC Lightweight Champion. Penn first claimed the vacant title at UFC 80 back in 2008, eviscerating Joe Stevenson over two brutal rounds before sinking in a rear naked choke. The current champion, Frankie Edgar, took the title from Penn with a razor-thin decision victory at UFC 112 in April.

That loss in Abu Dhabi was Penn's second defeat in his natural weight class, the first in seven years and nine fights since the young "Prodigy" lost to Jens Pulver in 2002. Now standing at 11-2-1, Penn's record at 155 pounds is still by far the strongest in the history of the division. He has defeated lightweight champions of three distinct eras: Sean Sherk, Takanori Gomi, and Pulver in a rematch. Up until the loss to Edgar, it seemed as if Penn's grip on the division was ironclad. Using speed and deft footwork, Edgar scored enough points in the judges' eyes to defeat a lethargic champ in the stifling heat of Dubai.

Many are of the mind that it was that Middle Eastern heat, or perhaps a fluky illness that kept Penn from delivering one of his usual electrifying performances at 155 pounds. But what role might lack of motivation have played in Penn's atypically sluggish performance? Is it possible that "The Prodigy" overlooked Edgar as just another stepping stone in the crafting of his legacy?

It is commonly known that BJ Penn is a fighter who places great credence on how grandiose his chapter in MMA's history will be. Prior to his title defense against Diego Sanchez last December, Penn said:

"My motivation, at first, it was about the belt. Every champion, after holding the belt for so long, they start to look for other goals, other belts. You really want to go down (in history)...

"They talk about the great boxers in the past. You want them to talk about, when UFC is very big and everybody's making millions of dollars a fight, you want to be one of those guys that they say ‘It's because of him, it's because of guys like this, is the reason we're all making millions.' "

Penn has long felt that his path to immortality requires conquering multiple weight classes. His wanderlust among the disparate divisions of Mixed Martial Arts can be largely attributed to a fight more than six years ago. In 2004, a young, fresh-faced Penn dethroned the greatest welterweight fighter of all time-Matt Hughes. The victory came at a time when Hughes was ranked near the top of any estimable pound-for-pound list.

Five of Penn's next six fights were outside the lightweight division; he amassed a middling record of 3-3 during that two-year span. The wins came against Duane Ludwig (the only fight at lightweight), Renzo Gracie, and Rodrigo Gracie (the latter two at middleweight). His losses were in a rematch with Hughes, a hotly contested fight with Georges St. Pierre, and an open-weight match with future light-heavyweight titlist Lyoto Machida.

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Penn's uninspiring record (3-4) outside of lightweight perhaps speaks to the fact that his ambition exceeds his ability. That's not a knock on Penn; true to his nickname, he is indeed prodigiously talented. But even for the United States' first truly great jiu-jitsu player, size has been proven to matter. Against the 220 lb. Machida, Penn faired surprisingly well. It is the pair of matches with St. Pierre, however, that have indicated Penn will struggle against equally gifted competitors who are naturally larger and stronger.

And yet, that is something Penn refuses to acknowledge. Since losing to GSP for a second time at the start of 2009, Penn has consistently expressed his desire for a rematch with the current welterweight champion. He would fend off lightweight after lightweight and claim it was just another step toward GSP. And then he ran into Frankie Edgar.

Penn has focused so intently upon writing his legacy across multiple weight classes that he has lost consolidation of his own. A loss on Saturday would still leave him as the greatest lightweight thus far, but would it be long for Edgar to surpass him? On the cusp of title contention are undefeated Gray Maynard (already with a win over the champ) and Kenny Florian, who Penn may have already defeated but has since developed into one of the most complete fighters in the world.

Though far from telling the whole story, his career record isn't sterling at 15-6-1. He is indeed one of only two fighters in UFC history to capture the championship of more than one division, the other being Randy Couture. A series of losses now, however, could leave BJ Penn as the fighter most remembered for letting his ambition get the best of him. At 31 years old, Penn has but a little more time in his athletic peak, much of which was squandered meddling around in the higher weights.

Just five months ago, there was talk of Penn "lapping the division" and requiring another foray into heavier classes for a proper challenge. Now, as the lightweight title challenger, Penn must place his inter-divisional aspirations on the back burner and reclaim his throne at 155. If Penn is to continue building upon his coveted legacy he must first, as the old adage says, "do no harm". The most crucial aspect of that is reclaiming his championship on Saturday in convincing fashion.

This story was originally posted at this link. In an ongoing effort to get some love from Kid Nate, who just today mentioned a dearth of coverage for the top-billing at UFC 118, I post it on BE.

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God just reading that first qutoe from BJ makes me hope even more that Frankie fucks him up. Please Frankie don’t let me down.

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Aug 27, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

IDK, I think every fighter, even Wanderlei, would like to never lose. Hell, Floyd Mayweather is turning down ~$40 million because he might lose a fight

"I talked about retirement a little bit, but told them I'd be the same ol' grumpy, pissed off guy." --Bobby Cox

MMA For Real

by Anthony Pace on Aug 27, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not the idea of never wanting to lose so much as it is the arrogance. “I thought I was gods gift to fighting” 6 losses later and he still thinks that.

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Aug 27, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

idk

It’s in the past tense, so maybe he’s looking at himself in hindsight

"I talked about retirement a little bit, but told them I'd be the same ol' grumpy, pissed off guy." --Bobby Cox

MMA For Real

by Anthony Pace on Aug 27, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely understand why Penn said that. Nearly every young, talented kid, in any profession or trade, goes through this. You always think you’re going to go “100-0 with 100 knockouts,” until reality slaps you. Granted, it’s a lot more profound when you’re BJ Penn.

Also, look at my signature. He said that in the same press conference. So yeah, it’s in hindsight.

"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn

by crazybones on Aug 27, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now thats funny.

Wrote a piece very similar yesterday, not really delving into BJ so much, but specifically used “What is on the Line” and in BJ’s case, I mentioned his legacy. I’m with you all the way on this one.

http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2010/8/26/1652979/ufc-118-what-exactly-is-on-the-line

Twitter me @kkelchner621
Read me at WatchKalibRun

by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 27, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

posted mine on Wednesday

s-s-s-s-suuuuuck it.

But seriously, there are huge implications for BJ Penn in this fight, and he’s one of the top 5-6 guys in the sport… I’m surprised it’s been so overshadowed.

"I talked about retirement a little bit, but told them I'd be the same ol' grumpy, pissed off guy." --Bobby Cox

MMA For Real

by Anthony Pace on Aug 27, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think BJ's legacy is pretty secure.

The bloody Joe Stevenson sub is enough to be remembered. The look of joy and laughter during the Kenny sub is frightening. The pacing and grinning between rounds of the Diego fight was terrifying. And that performance will go down as possibly the most brutal one sided beating of a title fight there ever was.

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by pdl on Aug 27, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This

Bj Penn is in no danger of losing his legacy on Saturday. Having said that, a second loss to a younger, faster lw would be a wakeup call that he has reached the far side of the mountain. However, having said that, i like bj’s chances to get his belt back and hold it for another year or two.

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin

by Snatchl on Aug 27, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edgar can finish Penn and BJ will still have his legacy. A rematch loss will do much less damage to his legacy than his behavior after the second GSP fight did.

You don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.

by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Aug 27, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

BJ's legacy is secure.

Matt Hughes
Matt Serra
Joe Stevenson
Kenny Florian
Diego Sanchez “YES!”
Shaun Sherk
Jens Pulver
Caol Uno
Gomi
Renzo
ect..

Semper Fi'
WatchKalibRun.com
Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Aug 27, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

This is another example...

of why the UFC need to fold in the lighter weight classes from the WEC.

IF Penn losses, what do they do with him? With 145 in play, he could easily move down, with some serious motivation, and try and be the first to win a title in 3 different weight classes.

I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.

by Razreshat on Aug 27, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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