Me on The Jordan Breen Show Talking Couture vs. Toney and....
by Luke Thomas on Aug 26, 2010 4:28 PM EDT
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I'm on the JBS today talking about James Toney, how MMA fans unfairly disrespect him, what to make of his fight with Couture, where the boxing audience is on this event and...
...how utterly simplistic, idiotic, fanboyishly reflexive, slovenly, intellectually lazy, inappropriate and otherwise annoying to no end how pro wrestling fans try to distill MMA into pro wrestling terms and concepts to help them understand the sport. Jordan and I take a gigantic dump on the moronic p.w. constructs, so I'm sure some of you are going to further hate my guts, but that's what you get for having the entertainment palate of a toddler.
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So you talk about.....PRO WRESTLING?!
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
Listen Luke, I love your beard as much as the next guy
but damn son, you plan on rounding up all the pro wrestling fans and placing them in concentration camps anytime soon? Cause if so I should hurry up and tell my little cousins to go ahead and hide out in the attic (comparing disliking pro wrestling to German era Nazism…yeah it don’t feel right to me either).
Also can’t help but find it ironic that you’re pretty much resorting to “cheap heat” to gather the ire of the of the wrestling fans that read this (personally I don’t give two shits, but it’s funny none the less).
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
by Fake Emcee on Aug 26, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Just wait till the inevitable SB Nation MMA Blog Civil War Presented By Direct TV
When Luke drops the big leg on Kid Nate and joins with the Subo and SC at Watch Kalib Run. People will be all “Luke Thomas you can go to hell. Straight to hell” and he will go on to star in Santa With Muscles 2.
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
by RobertGBP on Aug 26, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It’d be hilarious if everyone just flooded this discussion with nothing but pro wrestling talk.
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
That can be done.
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
Yeah, to watch Luke go bearded white Hulk on all our asses.
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
Mean Gene: Ariel Helwani
Ariel the first thing you gotta do is to tell these people to shut up if they want to hear what I’ve gotta say. Well the first thing you’ve gotta realize brother is that this right here is the future of blogging. You can call this the New World Order of blogging brother. These two men came from a great big organization up north and everybody was wondering about who the third man was. Well who knows more about that organization than me brother? Well let me tell you something, I made that orgainization brother! I made the people rich up there. I made the people that ran that organization rich up there. And when it all came to pass, the name Luke Thomas, the man Luke Thomas got bigger than the entire organization brother! And then Dana F’N White amigo, he wanted to talk turkey with Luke Thomas. Well Dana F’N White promised me press credentials brother. Dana F’N White promised me millions of dollars. And Dana F’N White promised me world caliber writers. And as far as Dana F’N White,Scott Coker and entire MMA World goes, I’m bored brother. That’s why I want these two guys here, these so called Outsiders, these are the men I want as my friends. They are the new blood of professional blogging and not only are we going to take over the whole blogosphere, with Hulk Hogan, the new blood and the monsters with me. We will destroy everything in our path Ariel. As far as I’m concerned, all this crap in this comment section represents these fans out here. For two years brother! For two years, I held my head high. I did everything for the charities. I did everything for the kids. And the reception I got when came out here, you fans can stick it brother. Because if it wasn’t for Luke Thomas, you people wouldn’t be here. If it wasn’t for Hulk Hogan, Scott Coker would still be promoting events out of his garage. And if it wasn’t for Luke Thomas, all of these “Johnny come latelys” that you see out here writing wouldn’t be here. I was writing for SI brother while they were writing for Bleacher Report. So the way it is now brother, with Luke Thomas and the New World Organization of blogging brother, me and the new blood by my side. Whatcha gonna do when the New World Order runs wild on you? Whatcha gonna do?
Ariel: Hey, don’t touch me! Don’t touch me, I’m going to see the lawyers! Tony, Dusty, Bobby, Dammit let’s get back to you!
Snowden: All right. We have seen the end of Hulkamania. For Mike Fagan, for Brent Brookhouse, For Chris Nelson, I don’t know…I’m Jonathan Snowden. Luke Thomas, you can go to hell! We’re outta here. Straight to hell.
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My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
by RobertGBP on Aug 26, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Are you saying he runs small time hamburger chain?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 27, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha how'd I become that fan?!
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by Matthew Roth on Aug 27, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
why does Jordan Breen have a show opening like he’s co-headlining with the Wu Tang Clan?
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
Breen is a huge Hip-Hop head
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
I can appreciate that
but the contrast between the intro and the sound of his voice is like listening to the radio and hearing Jay Z followed by Simon and Garfunkel.
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
I lol'd
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
You do realize...
“Mixed Martial Arts” itself is a pro wrestling term from Antonio Inoki matches in the 70s and 80s, right? How does that fit into your rage hard-on?
Luke, your hatred of pro wrestling is pathological
And this is coming from a man who stopped watching it back in 86 or 87 when I was 14. I literally have not followed it for even a minute over the last 20 years, yet even I use pro wrestling terms. Why? Because i realize it is pro wrestling only real. The sport pro wrestling was pretending to be when I was a kid. I may not like it, but when it’s the source of 70% of the fans you better learn to live with it.
by John Nash on Aug 26, 2010 8:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You're not the only one to say "it is pro wrestling only real"
See, “Cornette, Jim.”
Since you mentioned Jim Cornette
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
Yeah pretty much
It’s also a great face for anything that’s WTF.
Does that come after the Jens Pulver one?
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
Jens' fund just took a backseat.
I know I am not one of the people Luke is directly shitting on but I feel like I might have got splattered with some errant feces. I guess I can see where Luke is coming from but I just don’t like feeling like I am being taken to the proverbial woodshed (JR term!!!) over something I used to enjoy watching.
I guess it’s like when your parents say, “I’m not mad at you, I’m just disappointed.”
"Jesus, did somebody dip a baby in jalepenos?" - My Girlfriend
by Earl Montclair on Aug 27, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
"If I woke up looking like that, I would run towards the nearest living thing and kill it." -Master Shake
We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
by II SMASH II on Aug 27, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
put a killer beard on that cat and I will go to my room with no dessert.
"Jesus, did somebody dip a baby in jalepenos?" - My Girlfriend
by Earl Montclair on Aug 27, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
"If I woke up looking like that, I would run towards the nearest living thing and kill it." -Master Shake
We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
by II SMASH II on Aug 27, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
:::Hangs head and walks into room.
"Jesus, did somebody dip a baby in jalepenos?" - My Girlfriend
by Earl Montclair on Aug 27, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I expect double recage by tomorow morning
"If I woke up looking like that, I would run towards the nearest living thing and kill it." -Master Shake
We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
I think someone will be smiling with a bowl of cocoa puffs in a few hours.
"Jesus, did somebody dip a baby in jalepenos?" - My Girlfriend
by Earl Montclair on Aug 27, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
They are doubley chocolate even
"If I woke up looking like that, I would run towards the nearest living thing and kill it." -Master Shake
We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
It's just like, who really gives a hoot?
Honestly, if he’s so bothered by people using these terms and applying them to MMA then he should simply tune it out. As a sporting fan you have to deal with plenty of people with ridiculous theories and opinions (you have heard that Brock Lesnar is apparently immortal now haven’t you?) and you can argue against it as much as you want of course, but it just goes so far beyond that with Luke. Now I can understand Luke’s viewpoint as well, but his opinion borders on smug and segregative. It’s like you can just picture him up on the highest of horses combing his magnificent beard and thumbing up his nose to the pro wrestling masses, calling them out for being intellectually lazy while in the same breath referring to them as retards and proclaiming a love for “girl’s titties” (perhaps Luke is intentionally lowering himself to the level he feels that pro wrestling fan’s intelligence occupies when he addresses such issues).
It was amusing at first and there are certainly a number of individuals that should be taken down a peg when it comes to the mindset (Sir Black Lesnar) but then it becomes irritating when he not only places all wrestling fans into same category of blissful ignorance, but then he attacks people that incorporate such phrases into their lexicon because he feels that it’s them being intellectually lazy? Maybe it’s just a simpler or just perhaps more interesting way for people to break things down as they see them happen, not just that they don’t have the intellectual fortitude to expand their minds beyond the useless knowledge of wrestler speak the WWE has given them.
Also what if these people might genuinely be retarded hmm? That just makes everything he’s saying that much meaner! (That was a joke of course, Luke seems to lose his sense of humor about these things unless you happen to be leaning towards his side of the line).
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
If there was any message I really wanted people to take away from that drawn out rambling mess
it would be that Luke Thomas has one gloriously tailored set of facial hair.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
This point we can all agree on.
"Jesus, did somebody dip a baby in jalepenos?" - My Girlfriend
by Earl Montclair on Aug 27, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone in MMA says EXACTLY what they think without any regard whatsoever for how the fans will react and what it might do for the build up of a match
Nothing untrue is ever said by a Mixed Martial Artist for the sole purpose of getting more pay per view buyers and advancing their career. It’s all 100% real.
Isn’t willful ignorance fun, folks?
by Trysdor on Aug 26, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I tried helping you out Luke, didn't get any back up
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/8/17/1628674/pro-wrestling-did-not-sell-ufc-117
"If I woke up looking like that, I would run towards the nearest living thing and kill it." -Master Shake
We have to take the amulet to the banana king!
Damn, Luke, you're just hateful.
I’m not a fan of pro wrestling, but I don’t feel the need to go sticking my finger in everyone’s eye, telling them how stupid they are, either.
by judonerd on Aug 27, 2010 9:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Luke Thomas is a hater and hater's:
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
by RobertGBP on Aug 27, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
If you're an adult male that watches pro wrestling,
you probably lack a college degree and/or are excited by the sight of male muscle.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
If you’re an adult male who puts MMA in your account name then you’re probably the kind of guy who thinks he’s better than everybody else and knows it all. Conversely, if you capitalize every other letter you’re probably a gamer in his mom’s basement thinking you’re really cool.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
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by Geno Mrosko on Aug 27, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Ever seen MMASuPreMaCy post on this site? My name is merely to make fun of his name. I created it back when he used to post often. I agree that capitalizing every other word is awful. That’s why I did it.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
*every other letter
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont know about that
im a college kid and i went to raw when it was nearby my school last year
i was totally bombed and dressed like a hick and it was potentially the most fun ive ever had
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
So I was right. You don’t have a college degree yet. Once that diploma hits your hands, your interest in pro wrestling will magically dissappear. (just kidding) If you continue to enjoy pro wrestling at that point, then I will have to assume that you must enjoy seeing muscular shirtless men.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
As opposed to
the muscular shirtless men in MMA?
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
by Fake Emcee on Aug 27, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agree with Fake Emcee… Seriously.. as opposed to shirtless naked men in MMA? MMA… You won’t watch two half naked men unless it’s real? A lot of people criticize MMA for being homoerotic. A lot of people think only bums watch MMA. I bet you don’t like that when someone says those things…. But you have no problem bashing someone for being a pro wrestling fan. Grow up.
Stereotypes are a real time saver.
Poor people are lazy.
Women can’t drive.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The rap in the beginning of this Jordan Breen show segment is HORRIBLE. It makes me not want to even listen to what follows it.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
This is my first time listening to this JB show, but these guys don’t have radio voices. They sound like small boys. Luke doesn’t have the same problem.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions
you're missing out since JBS is the best radio out there
by TylerTreese on Aug 27, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather listen to the Sports Junkies.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 27, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It's funny, but what was Pro Wrestling before it was predetermined?
A legit contest with pinfalls and submissions with real world champions that just a century ago sold out arenas like the UFC does today.
MMA is a throwback to legitimate competitive professional wrestling that was revered as much if not more so then Boxing was at the time, and Judo guys from Japan were in real professional wrestling as well (including Maeda, who taught the Gracies Judo).
Both Boxing and Wrestling became bogged down in fight fixing and corruption, and both hit the same crossroads. Boxing tried to clean itself up and stopped worked fights, wrestling unfortunately went the other way.
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