Quote of the Day: "(Brock) Lesnar Is Going to Have a Fight on His Hands" With Cain Velasquez at UFC 121
by Kid Nate on Aug 25, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
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I like to try to compete at a pace not many fighters can keep up with. A lot of guys just cant handle it. I think the biggest example of that would be Cain Velasquez. I think Lesnar is going to have a fight on his hands because of the type of pace Cain can keep.
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I see Lesnar being a problem because of his size and the fact that he can throw very heavy hands, but unless he does something right off the bat and takes Cain out early, Brock will be in trouble. Cain will take him into deep waters and do serious damage while he controls the later rounds. He could also win a decision. Cain's standup is far and away better than Lesnar's, his wrestling is equal in my opinion, and BJJ I'm not too sure about. I don't know what Lesnar brings on the ground but I know Cain has an awesome camp working with Dave Camarillo. He's dangerous in every aspect. The difference maker will be Lesnar's size to Cain's motor. Cain will be go go go, and 25 minutes is nothing to him. He does not get tired. I can't explain it, and I have no idea where he got that gas tank, but I've never seen him get tired. At ASU he was one of the hardest working guys to ever come through that program and being a heavyweight, that's very rare. He used to wrestle like he weighed 155 lbs. It's definitely going to be interesting. I can't wait to watch it.
Cain Velasquez' former ASU teammate Aaron Simpson talks to SBNation.com's David St. Martin. Simpson also talks about his recent battle with staph, Chris Leben and leaving Arizona Combat Sports to form his own gym with Ryan Bader and C.B. Dollaway.
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Cain Velasquez’ former ASU teammate Aaron Simpson
He thinks his buddy is awesome i get it. Cain didn’t seem as excited when Brock won at 116. He looked like he knew he was in for a fight.
"I’m the UFC heavyweight champion and I will be until the day I decide I don’t want to be. And that isn’t anytime soon." - Brock Lesnar
Breaking headline
This just in: Teammates talk each other up.
See Schaub, Brendan.
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RIP Sherdog (6/26/10)
Thats mighty high specualtion
Considering he never looks excited except after he wins.
Really?
The deciding factor for Carwin was his shitty gas tank, something Cain doesn’t have to worry about.
Woops
my bad, didn’t see the second part of your post lol
Cain has a chance to win, but...
… It’s not going to be a cake walk in the least and the odds still favor Lesnar (IMO).
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But, did he finish him?
Was Lesnar dozing? Was he looking like he wanted out of the fight? Did Carwin win?
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Carwin's power was more a factor in that fight than his gas tank
Cain isn’t as big or strong as Carwin.
Cain was rocked 3 times by Kongo
Kongo took Cain down.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
This ^
Which is why all this comparison of Carwin’s fight to what Cain “could possibly do” is a lot of hot air.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock reacted VERY poorly to being hit standing.
Cain has the gas to unload and make him pay for it. I’m not putting money on him, but I’m not betting on Brock either.
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-Randall Munroe
He reacted fine against Randy and took shots against Mir and Herring
As for bets, made that a few days ago.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm missing something, but...
… Although, Lesnar was in a bad position with Carwin, he didn’t look like he wanted to quit or like he was on the verge of “blacking out”?
He responded to refs calls and he got up and withstood a brutal assault from the mount.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He got hit with some hard shots
Especially the elbow with all of Carwin’s weight behind it. But he didn’t look “out” or really “dazed” to me.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You make it sound like Brock can't be knocked out
Even he admitted that he got rocked hard by Mir, the problem was it was a jumping knee so it was also like just giving Brock that takedown.
Herring was out of that fight right after that first punch that made him roll backwards.
Rocked is not knocked out though.
He can take a punch.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
But getting rocked means
he can get knocked out too. I’m not saying he can’t take a punch but he’s not invincible, if he gets hit enough or hard enough he’s get knocked out, especially in the heavyweight division.
I don't think that "he's invincible" is what I was saying either
What I was saying is that using the argument “Well, Carwin gas’d after 2 minutes of punches from the mount and Cain wouldn’t have” is not a valid argument given that Carwin and Cain are two different fighters with different strengths. Two minutes of punches from the mount…
… is TWO MINUTES of punches from the mount. That’s not a easy feat on such a large opponent.
Where Carwin lacks in speed and endurance, Cain lacks in power and size.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
(Not being a smart-arse) Are you saying that if Cain was in the same position as Carwin was with 2 minutes to unload punches from the mount, that he would have KO’d Lesnar in that match?
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Would he? Probably not.
But he could. With more work to the body and mixing up shots, he could do significant damage and could get an accumulation TKO later in the fight. And I don’t think anybody aside from Cabbage is immune to a KO at heavyweight.
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-Randall Munroe
But, Lesnar was never "out of it" or dazed through the 2 min barrage.
That’s why I don’t buy the argument of Cain winning by KO or TKO. Perhaps by “Frankie Edgar”, but I think Lesnar’s wrestling wouldn’t let the match get to that.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar was out of it for the first part of it
his arms are just large enough that it shielded his head pretty well from Carwin’s massive hands.
You say that his "arms werebig enough to shield his head" as if it's a bad thing?
And his arms were never “loosened” as if he were about to blackout. He remained covered up, but he wasn’t “mentally” out of the match.
The argument that Carwin’s 2 minute barrage of VERY hard punches was to his own detriment is not a solid argument. If anything, it should highlight the will and strength of Lesnar.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a bad thing
During that entire barrage barely any of Carwin’s punches got through Brock’s arms. The only reason Carwin lost that fight because he was being stupid and didn’t even bother mixing up his shots and he has no cardio.
Perhaps.
But, we don’t know that.
What we DO know is…
… Carwin was taken down in the 2nd and submitted by Lesnar.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It was obvious Carwin blew his load after the first round
i think he threw like two punches the entire time and didn’t even try to prevent Brock from getting mount and the choke. Don’t get me wrong I think Brock’s performance in that fight was awesome but Carwin exposed that Brock isn’t unbeatable.
Yeah, Brock's pass to mount was pretty wide and sloppy.
Heavyweights can get away with that kind of thing most of the time though. Kudos on him for making it work anyways.
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I never said that Cain was going to knock Brock out
but if he can keep the fight standing up theres a good chance that Cain can outpoint Brock.
I’m not too sure but i’m pretty sure Kongo took Cain down after he rocked him.
Just cause he survives the hardest hitter in the division doesn’t mean hes immune to everyone elses power. Cain hits hard and is faster than Carwin and he won’t gas himself out if he does get Lesnar in trouble.
Can Cain stop Lesnar's takedown?
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think so it was hard for Carwin to do so and he didn't even have to really sprawl
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 25, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
god damnit "wasn't hard"
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 25, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It was really a half-assed takedown by Brock
and Carwin’s strength and that whizzer allowed him to pop right up.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He only stopped Brock’s takedown when Brock was shooting in desperation to avoid being hit and was probably rocked. It is not like he stuffed him after Brock had a chance to setup a takedown.
This ^
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m assuming you’re referring to the one shoot where Lesnar completely whiffed.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock 0/3 in the first round.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Were all three "stuffs" though?
… Or were they more fainting and moving with the rush?
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Buddy
I’m not saying anything other than the stats. In the second round, Brock was 1/1, got the mount and finished the fight. Happy now?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
NEVER!!!
:-)
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly bro
until something comes along to put an end to this Lesnar hype train, not to say he’s not a talented fighter just that his fans are completely out of control at this point with their expectations, I don’t think I can deal with reading people’s comments on Brock.
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
He was one iffy stoppage away from mortality.
I’m just praying he at least looks bad against Cain for a while. Just to stop all the madness. Although that probably wouldn’t matter much at this point.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously though
don’t even attempt to criticize the guy in anyway or find a flaw since chances are that flaw only manifested itself through a random act of the universe.
P.S. Brock not being able to set up a takedown cause he’s “too worried about get hit” ain’t exactly a good thing considering that getting hit is part of the sport and all.
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
Where was there a reply where anyone upset over B.H.F criticism of Lesnar?
With all due respect…
… Take that elsewhere.
It was a conversation that expressed two different opinions.
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Again that argument never works
different styles, different motors.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
by fr8nk the tank on Aug 25, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Dave Camarillo
I don’t know where Dave Camarillo gets this reputation as having all universe bjj skill from? It’s certainly not from any kind of competition record. Dave has rarely competed in Pan Ams or the Mundials. And when he has, Dave’s record is at best mediocre.
Compare this to Comprido, Lesnar’s bjj coach:
2007
* Black Belt -97 kg: 3rd place
2006
* Black Belt -97 kg: 3rd place
2005
* Black Belt -97 kg: 3rd place
2004
* Black Belt -97 kg: 2nd Place
2003
* Black Belt -91 kg: 3rd place
2001
* Black Belt Open Weight: 3rd place
* Black Belt -91 kg: 2nd place
2000
* Black Belt -97 kg: 3rd place
* Black Belt Open Weight: 1st Place
1999
* Black Belt Open Weight: 1st Place
Brock Lesnar passed Carwin’s guard and got a tap out from Carwin via arm triangle. Does Jon Fitch (Dave’s first black belt) even try to pass the guard? No.
if you include Camarillo's amateur judo credentials
in a much much deeper field, they’re much closer. Camarillo is a judo guy who was an early adopter of BJJ, not a BJJ guy. He’s got his own grappling system and it’s fucking solid. Sadly the AKA guys never implement real Camarillo style stuff — not a lot of flying armbars coming from Cain, Koscheck and Fitch
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I will agree with you that Dave is solid — I trained with him and others many moons ago at Ralph’s academy. My point is there is really no basis to put him on the bjj pedestal. In my view, you only get on that pedestal, if you compete and and at least for a time dominate at least your weight in the Mundials, Pan Ams or equivalent no gi competition. No brainers on the pedestal would include guys like Marcello Garcia, Saulo, Pe de Pano, Mario Sperry (old school), Margarita, etc.
As for creating your own system, maybe your Greg Jackson and maybe your not. Only time will tell.
by pwdminotauro on Aug 26, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You do realize competing, inventing new techniques and teaching/traing students are three completely separate skills, right? And the level of one skill can have very little effect on the the level of the others?
Besides, like Nate said, you should go watch some Camarillo highlights before you question his skill. The guy was beating the Cohen brothers and vying for an Olympic spot before he shifted focus to MMA and submission grappling.
Just because a guy has never won ADCC doesn’t mean he can’t be a world class BJJ instructor. Along those same lines, what kind of MMA record does Greg Jackson possess? How many Muay Thai world titles has Mark Delagrotte won?
by Velcro on Aug 25, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dellagrotte once said that he sucked at MT (sort of), had a losing record and got discouraged with competing.
"...I don't want to save the World, I don't even want to save me. We're so boring that we don't event want to save ourselves...There's nothing left to say, we're so fucking boring. Let it die I say. Let there be a new beginning...It's awful. Goodnight"
by dancingChicken on Aug 25, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i think cains in trouble here
he’ll be on his back early and often and brock has a pretty good gas tank for a guy his size and i dont think cains chin can take the amount of punishment that brocks gonna give him
im calling lesnar by tko in the 2nd
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
I got the 1st by KO (not TKO)
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
cain can't handle brocks size
unless cain has been bulking up for Brock he is screwed, i just watched him fight Kongo recently and cain had major issues; if kongo knew more about grappling it would not of worked out for cain the way it did i mean Kongo took cain down at one point and it blew my effing mind. Cain does have heart but we know brock has some too CAN"T WAIT
i think brock will utilize the deathclutch in this fight
anyone have a gif of that?? best move ever!!
Are you referring to the Triangle he threw on Carwin, or the headlock/choke Hughes threw on Almeida?
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on Aug 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The Brock Lock or Deathclutch
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I call it an arm triangle, Matt Hughes’ front headlock is more of a Deathclutch…Brock Lock does sound better though.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on Aug 27, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
the move he used to batter mir's face
I call it the deathclutch
by Dr Tyronious on Aug 28, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He's going to use his walkout t-shirt?
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 25, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock has said himself that he fights at 265, no cut.
He 20lbs bigger than Cain and a few years older. I think its pretty even. Cains been training with Daniel Cormier. I don’t wanna bring out the fanboys, but you can’t compare Brock’ wrestling to Dan’s. All in all, I think its dead even.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
We don’t have to compare to Dan, since he’s not fighting Dan. I bet they don’t use Lashley as the gold standard for Cain’s training partner anymore.
by Hardcharger on Aug 25, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Did someone honestly say that?
Everyone knows Lashley’s the worst fighter who occasionally trains at AKA.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Cain and Dan are beasts in the Gym and extremely entertaining to see
Lashley is entertaining as well. But in a 3 stooges kind of manner.
I gotta see that in person.
Is Bobby like the little brother at the gym?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 26, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't compare Cain's wrestling to Cole Konrad who Brock is training with
Oh yeah, and he beat Cain straight up.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair point.
Cole wasn’t really TD artist as a wrestler. He was just massive and would wait for you to wear yourself out then capitalize. Maybe Brock can do the same.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree Lesnar will have a fight on his hands
He has to choose which hand he’ll use to land the knockout blow.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
Nice! +1
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by ChicagoMarine on Aug 25, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope brock times his take downs
if brock goes out there and just tries to run for a takedown like he did against carwin, he will never takedown cain, BUT lesnar times his takedowns well usally when the other fighter kicks low. Cain does a hell of a job mixing the stand up game up. Cain does have a chance to KO lesnar. But i think lesnar will not get desprate this time and he will time that low kick of cain’s and take him down.
Good analysis
I think a very patient and calm Lesnar wins this fight. Conversely, its going to take a frenetic and aggressive Cain to pull it off. That, in itself, puts the odds in Lesnar’s favor, IMO.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar's "TDs" in the first round, if you can call them that
weren’t set up and were the result of his response to getting hit.
The only TD he set up was the 2nd round one (you can see him hit the left jab and change levels while Carwin thinks he’s coming with a right).
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not going to fellate Cain too much
but Lesnar’s in over his head. There is nothing he can do to Cain except hold him for a little while. His stand-up is bad, his MMA wrestling is nothing special, and he does not like to get hit.
Cain by TKO in one of these rounds 3, 4, or 5.
"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn
And I'm not going to fellate Brock
since there doesn’t seem to be any room left with all the fanboys already down there.
ALSO CAUSE I’M NOT INTO FELLATING GUYS!
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
^ No homo
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by Barack Lesnar on Aug 25, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s more like the other way around, Brock is going to bully him and show him what great mma wrestling is about Cain will be lucky if he makes it to the third round.
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cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Aug 25, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Simpson is basically telling it like it is
I have been over to AKA as of late and Cain is a beast in every aspect, on top of that he is incredibly smart and technical. His sprawl and scramble is the best I have ever seen from a heavyweight. His hand speed and footwork is off the dial. I think this will be a blowout, I really don’t see how Lesnar wins other than maybe freakish, desperation, blind side punch or something.
In-person observations count for little around here.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 25, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
you report from Lesnar’s gym you disappear just ask greg nelson. He talked too much when Brock was sick and he got his walking papers
"I’m the UFC heavyweight champion and I will be until the day I decide I don’t want to be. And that isn’t anytime soon." - Brock Lesnar
Yep
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 25, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont really care about how a fighter looks in the gym or what his trainers have to say about him.
Show it in the cage or ring. Thats the only place it really matters.
No Psych, you're wrong
Lesnar is big and didn’t get beaten against Carwin…the end.
Did I mention he’s big?
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
Dude
have you read some of the stuff people have been saying in this thread?
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
Correction
have you read some of the stuff people have been saying in ANY thread about Lesnar?
Matt Hughes has some serious "mentally challenged" strength applying a choke to Ricardo Almeida’s neck strong enough to squeeze a turd out of his other end.
He's 400lbs, solid. All Type IIa muscle.
When will it sink in that he’s not that big anymore and Matt Hughes benched more than him at their peaks? I’m not seeing he’s garbage, but he’s a better fighter than he is strongman or athlete.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 26, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
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