Strikeforce 'Houston' Results: Bobby Lashley Upset by Chad Griggs at End of Second Round
The former professional wrestler probably wished this ending could've been scripted in his favor. It wasn't meant to be.
Lashley immediately went for the takedown and passed directly to side control. Lashley tried to step over the left arm of Griggs to set up a crucifix and even threatened mount passes, but was unable to "straddle" the position. Halfway through the round Griggs was able to get up, but Lashley immediately snatched him back down to the mat. Some loose positioning allowed Griggs to get back to his feet once again where the underdog landed a nice knee to Lashley's midsection. After refereeing Jon Schorle separated the two Lashley was nailed with an uppercut by Griggs on the way in for the double leg, which opened a nasty gash just below the eye. Lashley won, but didn't escape the first round unscathed.
Lashley opened the second round with a monster takedown. Lashley showed some decent ground and pound and even more impressive guard passing. Lashley eventually passed to mount halfway through the first round and unloaded many good punches on Griggs while maintaining control. Referee Jon Schorle asked the ringside doctor with 33 seconds left in the second round to inspect the cut with Lashley deciding to continue fighting. A last minute attempt at a takedown resulted in a hammerfist pounding that forced the ref to stop the fight at the end of the round.
There is a question, however, about the refereeing of Jon Schorle. After the cut was inspected, the referee did not put the fight back in mount where it was originally stopped. It was the desperate takedown that resulted in the hammerfisting that made the difference.
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I HATE to use the word EXPOSED but
Lashley doesn’t have the heart of a fighter. He wanted to quit the moment he got the cut.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
by fr8nk the tank on Aug 21, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
cant say it better myself, well put
Fan of Tiger 'Makin It Rain' Woods
by B-A-N-A-N-A-S on Aug 21, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if I would say he was exposed...
he was never really well hidden in the first place.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Lashley doesn’t have the heart of a fighter. He wanted to quit the moment he got the cut.
I have to agree, Lashley looked “defeated” or tired coming out for the second round. He just looked like he didn’t want to be there.
by higgledy-piggledy on Aug 22, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He's always wanted to quit..
..the moment anyone with a winning record is posed as an opponent.
Koscheck eats it.
I didn't see it, but...
From what I hear, Lashley’s GnP sort of gassed near the time the cut was checked. If the action had slowed down and the offense stopped, then it would make sense to restart them standing (as you normally would, just with a cut-check during the break). Again, I didn’t see the fight, I’m just saying it would make sense under the right circumstances.
That really was bullshit not giving Bobby that position back.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Zero cardio on Lashley. Ditch some of that muscle, you have the wrestling know-how to get a takedown without all that power. Just wasting energy.
Hard core MMA fan since UFC 99
by ChiCubs23 on Aug 21, 2010 10:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
True, Lashley is carrying WAY too much muscle.
If anything, he needs to go down a weight class before his spine collapses from more bulking up.
Brock Lesnar on Nutrition, circa 2009: "Vegetables? What the f*** are vegetables?"
by The MMA Noob on Aug 21, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
From the UG:
Scott Coker says: “Lashley to get next title shot, coming of an impressive loss, he is no doubt next in line.”
=)
by Nick Thomas on Aug 21, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Another SF hyped fighter bites the dust, this is why you don’t make matches with no upside because when guys get exposed there’s no where for them to go.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/76866807deabe3c1/
I hate it when refs r incompetent
Bobby lashley will still draw just as much as he has been but they can no longer try to sell him as one of the best mma fighters
I smell an immediate rematch coming, Cung Le style.
Strikeforce does not like it when their hand-picked ‘professional opponents’ have the audacity to win.
Seriously, where does Griggs get off doing something like that.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
How could Jon Schorle not restart the fight in the mount position?
A fighter losing such an advantage, because he had to be checked, is huge.
The fight was not stopped to check the cut, the fight was stopped because Lashley threw 3 legit punches in the last 40 seconds and was outstruck there. He spent the last 10 seconds laying on CG and even when the ref called for the stand-up, Lashley was too tired to get up.
Be that as it may be you still don’t stand a fight up from a dominant position like mount like that. Of course Schorle has a history of being a bad ref in boxing and MMA.
Lost in the post-event excitement that a truly great fight breeds — never mind the upset special delivered by Mackens Semerzier — is the horrific job that referee Jon Schorle did in officiating the Dave Jansen-Rich Crunkilton fight. Completely missing a blatant (albeit inadvertent) knee to Crunkilton’s groin — to which he reacted visually and audibly — was bad enough on its own. However, with the fight on the line in the third round, Schorle saw fit to repeatedly stand Jansen up from top control instantaneously, as the unbeaten lightweight prospect was trying to steal the round and the fight. For the last half of the final stanza, the eventually victorious Jansen fought both Crunkilton and the inane whims of Schorle.
But this is not an op-ed about an isolated incident in which Referee X did his unwitting best to ruin a fight. It’s not even just about the act of refereeing itself. People reacted to Schorle’s mishandling as if he were a local misfit referee who just cropped up that evening. Media reports used the name “Jon Schorle” without a sense of context. The commentary booth, including an increasingly agitated Frank Mir, referred to him only by the disparaging title of “this referee.”
If you’re a boxing fan, you’ll be dismayed to find out that Schorle, a Californian-based official now splitting time in Texas, was the referee who stood by while Vic Darchinyan beat Victor Burgos until he had a blood clot in his brain, resulting in emergency surgery and an induced coma following the bout. He was the third man in the ring for Vitali Klitschko beating hapless Corrie Sanders to a pulp. He oversaw the Erik Morales-Zahir Raheem bout — which he allowed to devolve into a clinch-filled slip-and-slide on a soaked canvas — as well as Joel Casamayor-Michael Katsidis, in which a thrilling bout was compromised by Schorle’s all-around inattentiveness. Schorle’s reputation is such that before the rubber match in his epic trilogy with Rafael Marquez, Israel Vazquez’s camp fought viciously and successfully to have Schorle removed as the bout’s referee and replaced with Pat Russell. These are just a few recent examples.
Despite allowing complete free-for-alls in the boxing ring, Schorle’s M.O. in MMA is usually far more conservative. Typically, he’s keen to stop any fight on the floor in which the fighter in top position lands two or three lukewarm punches, such as Frank Edgar-Mark Bocek or Tyson Griffin-Duane Ludwig. Often times it won’t even take that much, as in his blown stoppage of the first Jared Hamman-Poai Suganuma bout. No less dangerous with a scorecard in hand, he was one of the unfortunate judges — the other being the legendarily egregious Dalby Shirley — who scored the Patrick Cote-Chris Leben bout for “The Crippler.”
However, Schorle’s most infamous MMA moment came in the March 2006 quasi-snuff film that was Rob McCullough-Olaf Alfonso. Just moments into the second round, McCullough landed a crushing right cross that sent Alfonso’s mouthguard airborne. As the supine Olaf lay on the mat with a predatory foe above him, Schorle took a cursory glance at Alfonso’s eyes — which are glassy and googly even at his most lucid — and then walked across the cage to retrieve the mouthguard. McCullough took the chance to land three absolute killshots on the defenseless Alfonso, as the miserably out-of-position Schorle made a mad dash to stop McCullough from pureeing Olaf’s face.
Don’t think that I intend this article as a hit piece on Schorle, and don’t confuse my critique of the referee with an attack on the person. I bring up his prior bad acts to emphasize the question of how an official can get away with such consistently awful officiating in well-publicized debacles and not only be rewarded with plum assignments, but also remain unscathed and unnoticed by fans and media. Schorle is not just a liability as an official that I wanted to single out, but his position is symptomatic of larger problems with the discourse surrounding officiating in MMA — problems we’re all accessories to.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/r/Officiating-amp-Sunlights-Disinfecting-Properties-20312
Wow!
Lesnar Carwin II: Carwin is going to pull that horseshoe out of Lesnar's ass and beat him over the head with it.
by frosty31 on Aug 22, 2010 2:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, but if you are literally taking a breather in the mount position, you deserve to be stood up.
Lashely could not even get to his feet, he was gassing so bad. In the last 40 seconds on the ground,. CG outstruck Lashley. How do you get outstruck in full mount????
Oh come on...
He wasn’t landing a lot of shots but he was still being active. That was a horrible stand up.
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If by being active,
If by being active, you mean he would occasionally sit up and get punched in the face I completely agree with you.
It would depend on how long he was just sitting there doing nothing. If he sat there for over a minute in full mount and didn’t do anything but lay on the guy then I could see that but a ref better have a damn good reason for taking a guy out of a dominant position like that, Schorle didn’t. As far as getting outstruck in full mount, well then they should of left him in full mount for sure, if Griggs was active and doing damage then that isn’t inactivity now is it? Heck Griggs said on Beatdown after the Bell that he didn’t like the fight being paused at that point because it gave Lashley a chance to rest, the stand up and the cut check worked against Griggs.
Never
That is such a dominant position. You can’t take that from a guy.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 22, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I just rewatched it
And I would have to agree.
I didn’t realized it earlier when I first watched it. But he was def standing them up, right before he had the eye looked at.
checking the eye was a secondary to the standup
Without getting into debate on the standup, it was kind of silly for Lashley to go for that last takedown after the fight was restarted. i don’t think he could have finished the fight in 33 seconds if he was working with a full gas tank, and Griggs didn’t seem too scary on the feet either. he should have tried to ride out the last 33 seconds on his feet, then sit on the stool, catch his breath, and get his cut worked on a bit.
Not if the ref had stood them up prior to the eye-check.
That’s what folks are missing here. It was after the stand-up for inactivity that the ref had the eye looked over.
Legit restart.
Koscheck eats it.
Why is Luke Thomas such a suckie writer?
The real question here is why is Luke Thomas writing such slanted articles without revealing both sides? Luke Thomas has a TV, a computer and an opinion and that’s it!
He cheapened this article by shortcutting and coping other previously written articles because he’s lazy and cant do the proper research on his own. The same thing that Jordan Breen of Sherdog did.
OK, I don’t hate Schorle but I don’t love him either. But the fact is I’ve watched this guy for years refereeing boxing, kickboxing and MMA. He’s a very competent referee overall.
Let’s be fair and because Luke Thomas can’t be. Did anyone see the Leonard Garcia vs. The Korean Zombie fight in April on the WEC 48 first PPV card? Maybe the best MMA fight I’ve ever seen. Joe Rogan called it "the fight of the decade" and mentioned that Joe Silva the UFC matchmaker said "it was the best fight he’d ever seen". Schorle was the referee for that fight. How about on the same card the Mike Brown vs. Manny Gamburian fight? Schorle was the referee on that also. He made a perfectly timed stoppage. I just bought the DVD and watched in slow motion. The timing of the stop was perfect!
Since Luke Thomas brought it up lets talk about the Vitaly Klitscho vs. Corrie Sanders WBC Heavyweight champion fight from about 2004? I watched it live on HBO and they praised Schorle’s stoppage. What about that Luke Thomas you liar? In Kickboxing how about the K-1 Michael McDonald vs. Remy Bonjousky final in Vegas? They used to show it on ESPN2 all the time. Another great great fight and Schorle refereed that also.
With regards to the Katsidis vs. Casamayor fight, didn’t Ring magazine call it the best lightweight fight of 2008? And the 5th best fight of 2008. Yeah Schorle was the Referee for that one to.
Just this year there was the PPV Julio Ceaser Chavez Jr. fight against John Duddy in Texas. Schorle was praised for his handling from start to finish. Or the PPV Eric Morales vs. Jose Alfaro fight. No problems there just a great fight and Schorle was the referee on that one to.
I was at the Strikeforce show sitting in the 3rd row. Lashley had run out of gas and was just lying there. People in our section were calling him a bum. All Schorle did was stand them up to get some action back in the fight. It looked like he called the doctor in secondary because Lashley was complaining about his eye. Lashley got his ass kicked by a nobody and now Strikeforce is crying. The guy is a sideshow not a real MMA fighter and he got exposed so that’s that.
Look, I don’t care if they vilify this referee or they honor him but lets at least be fair. All Luke Thomas did was go on the Internet and do a search. He found older articles written by Lame f*cks like the (pocked face) Steve Kim of Max boxing or that (porn freak) from sherdog, Jordan Breen. He rewrote some of the context and copied word for word other parts. What a piece of sh*t Luke Thomas is!
(If none of you have ever seen Josh Gross of sports illustrated he is the biggest dork in MMA. Josh Gross was at a party in Ca. in 2006 and trying to fit in so he took a huge bong hit and fell over like a tree going timber! It was the biggest joke in MMA in Ca. for a couple of years. Wonder if Josh Gross has gotten any better smoking dope since then?)
The cool thing is now we know what this Luke Thomas fag looks like. Luke, is that really a beard or did your cat die? Get a real job mommy’s boy!

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