Fedor Emelianenko vs. Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva Rumored for Upcoming Strikeforce Event
by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2010 12:27 PM EDT
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Fedor Emelianenko (31-2 MMA, 1-1 SF) will in the coming week decide what his immediate future holds in Strikeforce, according to a source close to the fighter.
While speculation on Emelianenko's next opponent has centered around current heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem or a rematch with Fabricio Werdum, the source said a contest with Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva (14-2 MMA, 1-1 SF) on Dec. 4 is currently on the table for the Russian's final fight on his current Strikeforce contract.
They also caught up with Scott Coker in an attempt to confirm:
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker earlier told MMAjunkie.com that Emelianenko's return date has not been determined, though he said it would likely be "later" than the promotion's next major event, which is currently planned for Oct. 9 in San Jose, Calif.
Coker also told Sherdog.com that Silva was among three fighters (along with recent signee Sergei Kharitonov and Overeem) under consideration to meet Emelianenko.
A fight with Silva would represent much more of a "rebound" fight than a rematch with Werdum or a bout with Alistair Overeem.
There are a few different ways to look at the bout based purely on speculation. You could look at this as a sign that Fedor will not be re-upping his contract with Strikeforce and the promotion doesn't want one of their top two heavyweights at risk to pick up a loss. Or you could view this as proof that Strikeforce and Fedor's camp are working out a new, long-term deal (as reported last week) and this is a bout to rebuild Fedor for the big two Strikeforce heavyweights.
When it comes to the Russians, I'm just done trying to guess.
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I believe Fedor has one more short run in him Silva, Werdum, Overeem.
this is a pretty interesting fight actually
and i think bigfoot can pull it off, he has tight crisp boxing and a good enough ground game to potentially avoid fedors subs and ground and pound
his size could be a huge factor as well, if he can get fedor in the positions rogers got him in he can finish and dominate the russian
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Fedor takes this fight I think. But sure, it’s a good rebound fight.
and I know it’s a bit naive to think this, but I’m still slightly holding on to the dream of seeing Fedor’s last few fights in the UFC.
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 21, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i definately think fedor wins
but silva has the tools to give him trouble
and i gave up hope a long time ago
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Fedor isn't going to the UFC. Ever.
There, now you don’t have to waste your time guessing.
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by lowellthehammer on Aug 21, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
I didn't say anything about him going to the UFC
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think @lowellthehammer was replying to @Anton Tabuena comment above.
by higgledy-piggledy on Aug 21, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
There are a few different ways to look at the bout based purely on speculation. You could look at this as a sign that Fedor will not be re-upping his contract with Strikeforce and the promotion doesn’t want one of their top two heavyweights at risk to pick up a loss.
If he doesn’t extend his Strikeforce contract, who exactly is there other than the UFC to pay him? Speculating that Fedor will fight but won’t continue to fight for Strikeforce is speculating that he will join the UFC at this point.
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by lowellthehammer on Aug 21, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really. He COULD go to Japan, I wouldn’t put it past his management to be the one management that could get someone in Japan to pay up front. Or he could retire. …etc.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
StrikeForce pays him $750,000 a fight. I know most Japanese fights will be way lower risk (unless he fights Barnett or Overeem), but who in Japan is going to pay him even a third that amount? Sengoku hands down cannot afford him. Dream paying him $250,000 for a one-shot against an overmatched opponent like Jim York or whoever is a stretch, and I don’t see Fedor signing even a three-fight contract for that amount and then fighting someone who is actually dangerous like Josh Barnett.
I see him taking a paycut on his next contract in StrikeForce before any of those.
Who in Japan is even going to pay him?
They apparently can pay the fighters they have, let alone a fighter that comes with a cadre of mafia needing payouts too.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
by Razreshat on Aug 21, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
let’s just see how it all plays out, we internet fans are always russian to judgement
by kanodogg on Aug 21, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Exactly.
It’s like Nelly said:
“You ain’t from Russia, so bitch, why you rushin’?”
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 21, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They're just getting used to the American way...
Of booking fights.
Because, as we all know, in Soviet Russia, fights pick you.
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by Applejack McNeil on Aug 21, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
If Fedor is leaving you’d think they wouldn’t give him the chance to derail a potential contender in Bigfoot. And as a promoter it makes a lot of sense to book Fedor vs Bigfoot and then book the winner against the winner of Overeem vs Werdum (now let us see how quick that fight gets made).
But who frigging knows?
by John Nash on Aug 21, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You’re forgetting that in Strikeforce, a lose does not derail you from contendership, it makes you a stronger contender.
by simpsycho on Aug 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
With Overeem’s recent remarks about K-1, I think it’d behoove them to make Overeem vs. Werdum as soon as possible to ward him off from the GP this year since that’s coming up in October. If they could finagle a CBS spot with Overeem/Werdum and Fedor/Bigfoot on the same card, that’s the best possible move they can make going into next year. Throw in Mayhem/Diaz and… idk, a WMMA fight…
I swear to fucking God, Strikeforce has a chance to put on the best free TV card ever and earn some goodwill from the fans. If they don’t do it… well, I guess I’ll just come on here and bitch about it some more.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 21, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Werdum is hurt?
I just thought he was doing seminars and things while he’s recovering from having those bone fragments removed. Surely he can be ready before year’s end?
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 21, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he actually had the surgery until this week There is lots of confusion abotu what is actually going on, but the only dates i remember hearing are that he will fight in january.
hmm...
I was thinking that surgery was last month. If he did have this week, a fight this year may indeed be cutting it close
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 21, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve read so many conflicting reports about Werdum’s injury that I am almost convinced it’s a negotiations ploy.
There had been some rumors that CBS is pondering another show,but Strikeforce will have to come up with an appealing card. My suggestion:
Overeem vs Werdum for the belt
Fedor vs Bigfoot as a contenders bout
Mayhem vs Diaz catchweight bout
Kaufman vs Tate WMMA match
and in the freakshow slot
Walker vs Batista
I think that card could draw. I don’t know if it makes financial sense but hey, I don’t have to pay for it.
by John Nash on Aug 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if you want guaranteed ratings
Herschel vs. Kimbo
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 21, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No, we save Kimbo for a Kimbo/Lashley bout on the next CBS card. Winners meet on the 3rd card. You got to milk this for all it’s worth, Mr. Pace.
by John Nash on Aug 21, 2010 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, they are "in the tournament business"...
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 21, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for there won’t be another card if this one only pulls 2-3 million viewers.
by ufc4 on Aug 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would think a card with Walker vs Batista and Mayhem vs Diaz along with Fedor and Overeem would do better than the Fedor vs Rogers card let alone the Nasville card.
by John Nash on Aug 21, 2010 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You covered it all pretty well
I don’t see Fedor booking it from SF just yet, after the Werdum loss his stocked dropped alot and I’m not sure he could command the same money/co-promotion dibs Scott Coker and the gang seem happy to give him.
Only scenario I could see if Fedor leaving for a huge money payday in Japan, say a New Year’s fight with Josh Barnett. But still, couldn’t they work that out through DREAM somehow?
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At this point I don't care if Fedor goes to the UFC
I just want to see him with the Strikeforce title (as irrelevant as it is)
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Who cares?
Fedor to me is just a broken dream. When i used to watch him fight in Pride it was beautiful. Now because of his crappy managment company pulling him away from the UFC it has put him to a point in my eyes that he is as irrelivant as half the other fighters in strikeforce. Until he fights the best he will always be questioned as far as his ability to win big. When he was at his peak and fighting Nog Cro Cop and the other top heavyweight fighters in Pride he was the P4P best. Now it is in question all because he will never fight in the UFC. Thanks M1 Global.
I’ve resigned myself to look at Fedor as this. Men have the right to choose to handle their lives and careers as they see fit. Assuming the deal he was offered from the UFC is anything close to what was reported it will never really be easy for me to accept his choosing to go to Strikeforce. But that remains his right.
So as he slowly slides off the top of the P4P list he becomes someone that I enjoy watching to watch, not because I’m watching the greatest in the world RIGHT NOW but because he still WAS that man. It’s not the same anymore, but I can still enjoy the times that WERE great and enjoy watching him do whatever it is he does choose to do…even if he’s no longer THAT man.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda like watching Jordan play for the Wizards.
by ufc4 on Aug 21, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not really...
But if the Wizards were in the Euro League or the D-League, then yes…
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 21, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Overeem, Werdum, Silva…those are the equivalent of the NBA D-League players? Assuming we keep the basketball analogy going and draw a positions = weight class similarity (which works as at different points in time certain positions have a deep talent pool and others have a shallow..etc).
SO you’re telling me that 6 of the top 20 basketball players at a given position are in the D-League?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
For what it's worth
I think the whole basketball analogy is flawed from the get go. There is no comparable situation.
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This is probably the best they can do
Overeem has said that if he can’t fight Werdum, he’s gonna do the K-1 GP, Werdum is out until sometime next year and Sergei makes absolutely no sense. Bigfoot is really the best option they have.
That's because Fedor won't fight Overeem
You know, the legitimate champ in his own org.
Then again, I guess an easily winnable rebound fight is probably his best option right now…
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 21, 2010 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BigFoot on fighting Fedor or Overeem:
“Both Overeem and Fedor are great fighters. I would be more than happy to fight either one. I have a lot of respect for each of them…For me, there is no pressure. If I fight the champion, or if I fight the legend, the pressure is on them. Overeem and Fedor do present completely different problems style-wise, so I do hope Strikeforce can determine who it will be – and when – as soon as possible… Ultimately, whoever it is, I will be happy to be in the cage and will give it my utmost and fight my heart out. I know that I can beat both Overeem and Fedor, so whatever happens, I guarantee that the fans will see an awesome fight, and I’ll be prepared.”
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 21, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I just wanna see Fedor fight Overeem while he’s under the Strikeforce banner. Just ignore everything like the fact that Fedor is coming off loss. Isolate the fact that Fedor is awesome, Overeem looks to be awesome, and have the two fight. Forget title BS. Putting these two men in the cage would be something special and I want to see it since I won’t be seeing Fedor fight Brock, Cain, JDS, or Carwin.
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by ChiCubs23 on Aug 21, 2010 1:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You won't be seeing
Fedor fight Overeem either, ever…
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 21, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
fedor vs bigfoot sucks
m1 whinge about overeems steroids accusations when he hasnt even been done,but there ok with bigfoot who has tested positive, hipocrites
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While speculation on Emelianenko’s next opponent has centered around current heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem or a rematch with Fabricio Werdum, the source said a contest with Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva (14-2 MMA, 1-1 SF) on Dec. 4 is currently on the table for the Russian’s final fight on his current Strikeforce contract.
While there are conflicting reports as far as the date the December 4th rumor would also be the same day as TUF 12 Finale.
Looking for signature ideas.
I'm hoping SF doesn't try to go head to head with TUF with a Fedor/Bigfoot main event...
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 21, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have the best source in the world telling me this but I’ve also heard the next 2 Saturdays as possibilities. Really though it’s up to Showtime
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
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by DamnSevern on Aug 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
great GIF, excellent quote
that’s a rec!
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 21, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This is going to be a tough fight
i want Fedor to win, no doubt there, but Silva brings alot to the table here. He’s a big guy first off, has great jitz, and pretty good boxing. Fedor will have to try and knock Silva out in this one or take a decision, because he’s not going to be able to submit him, and if its a boxing match i think Silva is better at jabbing (see A.A. fight) and overall technique. i look for Fedor to land some big shots though and put him away, but i don’t think Silva will go easy, and this could produce a war if it happens.
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by MasterWhiteTiger on Aug 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor Emelianenko (31-2 MMA, 1-1 SF)
It’s been weeks, but seeing that loss on his record still makes me smile.
As for Silva, it doesn’t matter, Fedor will break him in two. A rematch with Werdum? Fedor. If Fedor wants to stay in SF, that’s fine, but nothing that SF has to offer Fedor excites me. The Overeem / Fedor match is all I want to see, honestly. Too bad he wants nothing to do with the horse whisperer eater Overeem.
"Strikeforce and the promotion doesn't want one of their top two heavyweights at risk to pick up a loss."
When has Strikeforce ever shown a concern about a loss damaging the value of a fighter? Seriously, do anyone doubt that Fedor could beat Bigfoot and then SF turn around and put Bigfoot in for a title shot?
Hell, they are considering giving Fedor a title shot right now after a loss…not that it is exactly the same thing, he is Fedor after all, however it still points to way SF does business.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Good fight
Silva made Arlovksi look really bad. He fought Werdum tough. This is the matchup Fedor deserves. Both these guys lost to Werdum – the winner gets a rematch with Fabricio and the winner of that fight gets Overeem.
Why should Werdum...
have to beat either one of these guys again to get a title shot?
Not that traditional MMA math applies in SF, but that just seems sort of unfair to Fabricio.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Another option
is they hope Big Foot beats him. Then he loses value and if he goes to the UFC they still have 2 HW’s that beat him. Smart really and all in all a bad fight for Fedor. Not saying he will lose, just asking what will he gain?
It Makes Absolutely Perfect Sense And That Is Why It Won't Happen
Of course Fedor facing Bigfoot with the winner getting Werdum/Overeem winner. But, didn’t we just hear like a week ago that Bigfoot was facing Overeem? Now, that fight made zero sense to me and therefore will be the most likely be the one that happens.
No matter what, they have to get Overeem back in the cage before he explodes.
by memitim on Aug 21, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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