Stranger in a Strange Land: The View From Press Row at Bellator 25
I'm disparaging of the sports media. It's a world that I find full of wannabe athletes and rock throwers in glass houses, always brimming with a sense of entitlement. And then there's the MMA media, which has its own particular idiosyncrasies, including guys who write for the nation's sporting cable monolith with next-to-no knowledge of the action in front of them.
I found myself embedded among these folks at last night's Bellator show in Chicago. I was able to work with Bellator's media reps and finally ended up getting credentialed approximately 36 hours before the first bell was scheduled to ring.
In the meantime, I gathered whatever advice I could get for covering my first event. The two pieces that stick in my mind were 1) don't be afraid to talk to people and 2) dress the part. I'm a naturally shy person, so acting the part of an extrovert is a bit of a stretch for me. I do, however, know how to dress for an occasion.
I show up with a white dress shirt, black dress shoes, a tie, and slacks. Now to be fair, most people showed up in polo shirts, but press row was chock full of T-shirts, shorts, and sneakers. Guess how many other ties I saw on members of the media? I'll set the over/under at 0.5 and let you take a side.
Bellator, by my uninitiated standards, treated us well. We arrived with a big box of Subway sandwiches and a plate of cookies waiting for us. I'm doing some weight cutting of my own, so I passed on both. The press tables were angled to the cage well, and we had plenty of outlets for our various electronic devices.
Coming into the event, I wanted to focus on what it's like to score an event live and up close to the action. Judges rely on some sort of mysterious difference between scoring the fight from cageside versus watching from the comfort of one's home.
Fortunately for me, decisions filled up the entire televised card. My cards looked like this: 30-27 Frausto, 29-29 for Hornbuckle/Blackburn, 30-27 for Grabowski, and 30-27 for Konrad, with the two contentious scores coming in the middle.
Starting with the heavyweight bout, I was shocked to hear all three judges turn in a 30-27 Grabowski card. It is very rare for judges to award rounds to a fighter who spent the majority of time on his or her back. From the very first takedown, however, Damian Grabowski demonstrated how to stay active with punches and elbows from the bottom. Scott Barrett, even with Chael Sonnen's dominating UFC 117 performance fresh in everyone's mind, tried to pass the guard without striking, to the point where it looked like he thought we were operating under the RINGS ruleset. Hats off to the judges for recognizing Barrett's hesitance to inflict damage.
The Hornbuckle/Blackburn fight provided a couple of interesting talking points. In the first round, Brad Blackburn blasted Dan Hornbuckle with a shot that sent him stiff toward the canvas. Or, at least, that's how I saw it. (And I had a nice angle of Hornbuckle falling over.) One of our readers in the comments thought the knockdown looked pretty tame on the TV, and subsequently gave Hornbuckle the first round. I haven't had a chance to watch the TV broadcast, but Hornbuckle told us in the presser that Blackburn came very close to knocking him out.
Round two proved to be the decisive period for the rest of us. Well, everyone else but people who gave Hornbuckle round one and me, who handed out a 10-10. It's my general philosophy that if I can't make a clear and concise argument for one fighter over another, they're both getting tens. If you strapped me down for a waterboard, I would have given the round for Hornbuckle, and I wasn't shocked to hear he won the decision, though I think Blackburn won the fight as a whole.
With a tremendous sample size of four and without having watched the broadcast, I'm skeptical that being up close significantly changes how one scores the fight. My scores aligned fairly well with Chris Nelson and Jordan Breen, both of whom I generally find myself in agreement with on all things MMA. I'm not so arrogant (though I'm close) to definitively conclude that judges just don't understand what they're watching (and at least last night they seemed to), but it adds to my preconceived notions on the subject.
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I was the commenter in regards to the Hornbuckle thing, and I was wrong. It looked like it caught him, but it didn’t look that damaging to me. Obviously Dan himself knows better than I though, so the point is inarguable. I was wrong.
You win this round, Fagan. I’ll be back though.
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Hornbuckle was dead weight when he caught that shot from Blackburn. I’m pretty sure him hitting the canvas actually woke him back up.
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by Brian Hemminger on Aug 20, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I didn't think the shot Blackburn hit Dan with was that hard either I thought he was just off balance I was surprised to hear he was that hurt.
And I couldn’t really decide who won the Grabowski fight but I had no problem with the winner. 30-27 didn’t seem right but a 29-28 victory for either fighter seemed plausible. And yeah Grabowski was extremely active from his back with subs and strikes.
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by doonerthesooner on Aug 20, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
Cool post
I really enjoy articles that give an insiders insight – and that you used the opportunity as a chance to judge the judges, I think, shows your committment and love for the sport.
However, when you get a chance to watch the broadcast, let us know if your opinion changes on the scoring of the Blackburn/Hornbuckle fight. I wasn’t here reading the comments during, but it seemed pretty clear to me that Hornbuckle won rds 2 and 3.
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Edit: commitment
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
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by grizzlyatoms on Aug 20, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it just me
or does that word look misspelled even when it’s correct?
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
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by grizzlyatoms on Aug 20, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
you were wrong both times
the word you’re looking for is “commitmentship”
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 20, 2010 3:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
great job
at flooding my twitter feed lol. Seriously, good coverage man.
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good work mike.
People shouldn’t show up to work dressed like bumbs.
Your coverage was spot on. Appreciated the comments while watching.
here's my question
where the two heavyweight fights as tedious and awful live as they were on TV?
I continually get myself psyched up for heavyweight prospects — and after Grove vs Sanchez last week who can blame me — but those 2 fights last night were just painful.
Reminded me of TUF 10.
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The Konrad fight had me on the edge of my couch the whole time
I kept falling asleep and having to roll over so I wouldn’t fall off
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by II SMASH II on Aug 20, 2010 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Something tells me
That they would be worse in a live setting.
At least at home, you can get up and make a sammich, or pull your pud or something.
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by grizzlyatoms on Aug 20, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
pull your pud
to Cold Konrad? Man, get some standards.
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 20, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
To be fair, I did preface that with getting up first.
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
- Frank Zappa
by grizzlyatoms on Aug 20, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
although, I still should have added “and leave the room”… Don’t just stand there and pull your pud to Konrad.
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by grizzlyatoms on Aug 20, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
grabowski was pretty ripped though
uh…….tmi!
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 20, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
in a related story
I think Joe Benevides and Zoila Fraust have exactly the same legs.
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 20, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Bummer it wasnt more exciting man
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by II SMASH II on Aug 20, 2010 2:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good stuff! Even if it wasn’t the most thrilling card, glad you got to test your live judging skills with all the decisions.
And I fully agree that most MMA media has a long way to go in terms of looking and acting professional while on the job.
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Have been on press row for NBA, MLB and college baseball/basketball
Don’t worry stick/ball media don’t keep it classy either.
Great night of coverage here on your twitter feed and liked the post night-perspective piece very much.
Curious how the talking to people part went for you? Great time to network with Bellator staff, fighters, trainers, commission members etc.
From press row were these folks accessible?
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The bummy attire doesn’t infuriate me as much as it does Luke and Fagan. What really gets me is when media people are drinking alcohol and cheering for fighters from press row, basically acting like they’re sitting in a $40 nosebleed seat with their buddies.
by Chris Nelson on Aug 20, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
At SF not the drinking part, but sadly we did have people who treated it like a vacation rather than a place to get work done. Which is just odd to me.
Palm to face moments a couple of times
I will say their were good than bad apples though.
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I heard some cheering where I was. Usually I’ll applaud fighters out of respect, but I held the clapping for the end of the presser. I don’t mind open and disclosed biases, but don’t cheer when you’re on the job.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Unless you have money on the event.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn’t get a chance to talk much. I introduced myself to one of the PR guys working with media and chatted with some media guys at various points. I actually had questions to ask at the presser but 1) they cut it short an 2) they gave the mic to non media members for half the questions.
After the presser, I clarified something with Brad Blackburn and then hit a train home to write a quick recap and get some rest.
With an event out of the way, I’ll feel more comfortable at the next show.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fagan
They hooked you all up with Subway!? It took them 2 hours to get us just a water cooler out to us in Louisville.
My experience in Louisville was somewhat like yours. I dressed up in Shirt/Tie, Khakis and Dress Shoes, lets just say I out dressed practically anybody on press row and Bellator staff.
Also “Press Row” for Bellator in Louisville was the WORST thing I have ever imagined. We were seated behind the people who paid $100-200 for their seats who would stand the whole entire time. All the TV’s posted around the arena were being blocked by fans watching the action because they could also not see the event making it a real pain to even watch the fights.
Also, I did not receive a confirmation or e-mail of the meeting location for Media until 4:30 PM EST that day. I made sure to contact the PR rep the day before and he told me I was accepted but I just had to wait for the e-mail.
Also with being one of the biggest media outlets there (Cincinnati Enquirer) they told me I would be allowed to interview Joe Warren and (local) Chad Hinton. When I asked about it the told me unfortunately there would not be a chance to get an interview with neither.
So my experience with “Media Row” with Bellator was very less than outstanding.
rant over
uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?
Brian
is one positive dude though! I know this for a fact (since he is now apart of my radio show!)
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While I agree with the basic sentiment
Its kind of hard to argue that judges suck because you got the same scores you would have sitting ring side, when the judges got the same scores as you.
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by Neil Manich on Aug 20, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That is worded really weird...
He didn’t say that judges suck.
He also said that he didn’t watch the broadcast, so the comparison between at home and ringside didn’t happen either.
I think he was saying in this instance the judges didn’t suck and that sitting at cage side is no excuse.
Correct me if I am wrong Mike
Yeah
I really need to work on my phrasing. My point is just that these might not have been the fights to watch to decide whether or not sitting ringside is an excuse. Maybe if he was sitting ringside for Jung/Garcia and still scored it for Jung he would have a point. But I’m not convinced here.
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I thought the judges were spot on last night. The fact that a lot of people were surprised by the Grabowski score says a lot to me. I saw a lot of 29-28 scores in press row and on Twitter as well.
The experiment isn’t really over until I can rewatch the broadcast. And, as I admitted, it’s a retardedly small sample. But I’ve never really bought the “it’s different live” excuse and last night did nothing to change that opinion.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rogan’s also said judges don’t know what they’re watching.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, I agree.
Both are factors, but he has gone so far to as to advocate a TV screen and feed for the judges, so he must think there is some validity to it. You also hear him say things like “I can’t tell how deep that choke is from this angle.”
Judges suck but having a screen would help a little too.
I agree they should have monitors. I just don’t think a lack of them is an excuse. But yeah. Thumbs up to monitors.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Reading this straight through, I think we’re on the same page here.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
29-28 both ways*
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 20, 2010 4:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m glad you got to do this, Mike.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 20, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
Mike....
Or anyone else who has seen Bellator live in Chi-town for that matter…. How did you like the venue? I’m a local Chicago guy as well. I saw the 1st Bellator show during Season 1 ringside at the Aragaon Ballroom, which was just an awesome venue to watch a fight in general (sat next to B. Vera while his wife fought her 1st fight, had a beer with him, so that was even cooler, but I digress)….
I was disappointed that they moved the shows to the Chicago Theater, which is more of a classic stage/theater set-up with the cage on the stage, and I don’t think one that lends itself that well to a fight (I have seen a couple of smaller shows from this vantage point and didn’t care for it that much)…
Anyone think otherwise, that its a good venue live for a fight? I still plan on going one of these times when they come back, just wanted some feedback… Thx
Vera comes off like a dick at fight time so that's interesting to hear.
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by doonerthesooner on Aug 20, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He was cool as hell actually....
Couldn’t have been nicer… He did seem a little uptight til his old lady started putting the screws to her over-matched opponent, but yeah, nice guy for sure….
That's cool, and stories like that are always good.
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by doonerthesooner on Aug 20, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't like to talk about it...
But I’m kind of a big deal…
I liked the venue so far as the Chicago Theatre is a gorgeous building. And being cageside, my seats were fine, though with the usual caveat of sitting so close and below the fighting surface. It seemed like the prime seats were up in the balcony, as that would give the best sight line to the cage.
That said, I’m not sure if it’s the best venue for fighting. I’ve never been to the Aragon, but I could bike to it from my house, which would be a huge plus.
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What'd you expect?
How many people in MMA have journalism degrees or are actual accredited sports writers? Most newspapers or journalism outlets don’t even recognize or have the respect for the sport, let alone recognize or cover it. It’s a good old boys network, and hopefully the new wave, younger journalists that are savvy enough to realize that it’s a legitimate sport can work their way up the ladder and change that.
I typically dress classy if it’s an event where I’m going to be more recognized – a college arena/stadium, etc. I could care less if some overweight, balding guy wears whatever if he’s a spot-on reporter.

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