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Jon "Bones" Jones: The Promise and the Peril

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Bonesjonespromiseperil_mediumOne of my favorite nonfiction writers, Ray Kurzweil, named a chapter in his most recent book The Singularity is Near "The Promise and the Peril".  His book is about the future - the future of technology and biology.  The chapter was the "payoff" to his arguments developed throughout the book and presented the possible upside and downside of the future he articulately described.

The future in MMA is clearly Jon "Bones" Jones.  His dismantling last night of tough-nosed veteran Vladimir Matyushenko silenced any doubts, voiced or unvoiced, about whether the hype around Jones was justified.  Now that those questions are definitively answered (for those who were still dubious after the dismantling of Brandon Vera on UFC Versus 1), the question on everyone's mind is, "what next?"

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Anyone interested in Bones' career path has got to be cognizant of both the promise, and the peril. And realize that the two are actually intertwined on many levels. Kevin Iole sums up some of the latter:

And in professional sports, there are many more great prospects who don’t make it big than there are those who do. All you have to do to understand that is to remember JaMarcus Russell, David Carr, Ki-Jana Carter, Aundray Bruce and Walt Patulski, all former first overall selections in the NFL Draft who were flops of varying levels once they turned pro. And that doesn’t even consider the NBA, where guys like Kwame Brown and Michael Olowokandi are prominent among the first overall flops.

Jones is extraordinarily gifted, no doubt - Just watch the way he almost effortlessly took apart Stephan Bonnar and Vera if you need convincing - but he still has to prove he can handle the pressure that comes with being a young prodigy.

He’s going to have women throwing themselves at him and men making him all sorts of outlandish business propositions. For the time being, he’ll never have to pay for his own drinks if he chooses to hit a night club, which might seem like a good thing, but the more he wins and the greater the legend grows, the greater the scrutiny will get.

Quoting UFC President Dana White, in the same article:

He’s an extremely talented kid with a great future...[b]ut he’s a young guy and he’s got to do it in the Octagon. I know you guys (in the media) love him, and I’ll admit, it’s hard not to when you see what he can do. But to become a star in this sport and to make it to legend status, you have to do it night after night and year after year and you have to prove you can handle all the outside stuff that comes with it. He’s off to a good start, but he’s got a long way to go, still, and a lot to prove.

The superstar young athlete that can command the respect of his peers, the fear of his competitors and the attention of the media - all while keeping a level head on his shoulders and showing an adult maturity at an age before even most working stiffs far from the bright lights are really grown up - is a rare commodity.  Yet these are the waters that Bones Jones is going to have to navigate.  So far he has done a masterful job.  With each big victory though, and each greater level of media scrutiny, each rung up the ladder is going to get tougher.

Speaking of the media, Ben Fowlkes' article gives us a glimpse into the upside - the "promise" in the Jon Bones Jones equation:

After dismantling Vladimir Matyushenko in just under two minutes at UFC on Versus 2 last night, Jon Jones woke up early this morning, put on a nice suit, and sat down for a quick chat with ESPN's SportsCenter.

Nothing spectacular came out of the appearance. He came off as humble, yet confident - the always elusive down-to-earth pro athlete. He cracked a smile while admitting that a UFC ban on elbows would wreak havoc on his game plan, and, when asked who he'd like to fight next, he even resisted what must have been an overwhelming urge to tell James Toney exactly what would happen if the boxer attempted to follow through on his plan to slap Jones in the face.

In short, it was a fairly routine appearance, but the fact that he got to do it at all is somewhat monumental given the scope of last night's event.
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But still, without having a past as a pro wrestler or an NFL player, and without being in a pay-per-view title fight, Jones gets a SportsCenter appearance just for doing exactly what most of the MMA world thought he would do.

So what does that tell us? Maybe just that even ESPN gets sick of talking about Brett Favre eventually. Or maybe it tells us that Jones has the kind of appeal to be the UFC's next big thing in and out of the cage.

If his youth and seemingly limitless potential are enough to get ESPN's attention even when he's squashing outmatched opponents on small time Sunday night fight cards, imagine the eyeballs he could attract when he finally faces a real test. If by some miracle of punching power and/or side check kicks, Toney actually gets past Randy Couture later this month, a Jones-Toney fight could be a huge crossover success for the UFC.

Make no "bones" about it, Jon Jones' upside - his promise - is exactly what MMA fans have been hungry for since the sport crawled out of its no-holds-barred past and into the legitimacy of a true sport:  crossover appeal, and the first generation of true hybrid mixed martial artists - skilled in every facet of the game, creative, by turns deceptively patient and brutally violent, able to display mastery wherever the fight goes.

MMA - specifically the UFC - has been looking for its crossover star for a long time.  Chuck Liddell had what it took, but in an unfortunate twist of timing, his career started to head dramatically south just as media attention began to come his way.  The mainstream media hype leading up to his UFC 71 fight with Quinton Jackson was arguably unprecedented for MMA, but his destruction at the hands of "Rampage" belied the image being conveyed, of an unbeatable KO machine.  More recently, fans have speculated if Georges St-Pierre is the crossover hope, although his halting command of English is often tabbed as a detriment.  Brock Lesnar, heavyweight champion, is understandably regarded as a crossover, if quasi-freak-show, star.  Unarguably he brought over legions of fans from pro wrestling. He is a charismatic character, but paradoxically restrained and private.  Discontented with granting interviews, he is unlikely to be THE crossover star we've been waiting for.

But, as Fowlkes rightly alludes to, Bones Jones may be.  Handsome, young, frighteningly talented, whip-smart, intense about his art, yet polite, laid back and thoughtful, Jones has the potential to be not only the future of the sport - heralding in a younger generation in which we will (yes!) see more guys with his amazing talent and versatility - but also to be the mainstream star the sport has thirsted for.

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On the telecast last night prior to the main event, Joe Rogan observed that within the MMA world, perhaps only Vitor Belfort has had as much hype, excitement, and expectations put upon him.  The comparison is an apt one, and a necessary cautionary tale.  The young Vitor Belfort was in fact one of, if not THE, most hyped fighters in the young history of the sport.  But being tagged with the nickname "the Phenom" when you aren't yet 20 years old and destroying fully grown men in seconds inside a ring or cage is not conducive to becoming a well-adjusted, level-headed athlete.  The reason we fans refer to the "old Vitor" as though we are speaking longingly about drive-in movies and rubik's cubes is because Vitor's career path wasn't navigated correctly.  By his own admission, he chose poor training partners, a poor approach to the game, and allowed himself to become disappointed, disillusioned and stale in the sport.  His development languished, leading him to slog away unimpressively with intermittent flashes of the old brilliance.

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Jones has thus far made very intelligent decisions in this area as well.  He smartly got himself into the best camp in the sport - Greg Jackson's - and has shown himself to be imminently coachable in receiving instruction from THE best coach in the game.  Jackson, for his part, is amazed at just how well his pupil is advancing:

 

You haven't seen the best Jon Jones yet...He followed the game plan to a T...to an absolute T...it was almost freaky how well exactly what we were practicing, he did.

The camp at Jackson's also recognizes the talent in their midst and the importance of keeping him grounded:

"Another big thing is all my teammates are in their 30s and late 20s, so they check me when they see anything going on," Jones said. "If I miss a practice or something, there's somewhere there always going, 'Where were you this morning?' I have a lot of people that steer me in the right direction."

With a dynamic, creative, proven trainer like Greg Jackson, as well as the camp of incredible championship-level athletes he gets to train with there on a regular basis, the future looks very good for "Bones" to both avoid the potential perils to his career and lifestyle, and recognize the full - and awesome - potential that this young man has in the sport.  It's going to be a great ride.

The FanPosts are solely the subjective opinions of Bloody Elbow readers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Bloody Elbow editors or staff.

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Great stuff

I can’t wait to see more of Jones. I have a feeling he’ll be a media darling throughout his MMA career. I loved his “you stay classy San Diego” line as a sendoff to the crowd last night. Great Anchorman tribute.

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by Brian Hemminger on Aug 2, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent article! This should be front paged.

by Henrique on Aug 2, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Ominous on Aug 2, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

done

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 3, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

You keep hitting home runs, homie

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by Chris Barton on Aug 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

If not for the injuries, Shogun could have been Liddell’s immediate successor in terms of superstardom.

Shogun vs Bones, strangely I’m siding w/ Bones even if the fight happened as early as next month (w/o Rua being injured ofcourse).

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by vivero on Aug 2, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I keep holding myself in check on thinking Jones would beat everyone at LHW, but I’m done. Maybe Lyoto could handle Jon in the clinch, or time him with a counter, maybe Shogun could beat Jon up slowly on their feet, stuff a takedown or two, and scramble back to his feet from his back…but I can’t help considering these fights mainly from the standpoint of how someone can attempt to deal with Jon Jones, rather than how can he deal with them. This next bunch of fights for Jon is going to be amazing. I’d like to see him takedown Minotoro and see how he handles him there. I wouldn’t mind seeing Randy try to fight Jon in the clinch. But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose.

by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 3, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Yeah, I keep holding myself in check on thinking Jones would beat everyone at LHW, but I’m done

but I can’t help considering these fights mainly from the standpoint of how someone can attempt to deal with Jon Jones, rather than how can he deal with them

But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose.

its like fucking reading my mind. I still remember our discussion between Lyoto and Bones. Oh how quickly monster perfermances can convince us, and rightfully so.

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by vivero on Aug 3, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, we tried to be reasonable. The guy is just too damn good.

by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 3, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vitor Belfort, a bunch of what ifs. I hope he can get it together and atleast make a good run before his career ends.

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by vivero on Aug 2, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you think Vitor is really going to get the next shot at Anderson? He’ll have spent a grand total of one minute in the cage in over a year. Dana continues to talk like he’s the obvious choice to fight for the belt, but you’d think Vitor would need a fight to knock off the rust first. I’d like to see Vitor fight regularly and get a couple wins, but they’re treating it like he’s gotta get a title shot before his wheels fall off again.

by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 3, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

"but they’re treating it like he’s gotta get a title shot before his wheels fall off again"

Exactly…

Whether they know or just suspect, I think they fear Vitor’s lack of mental fortitude might cause him to fold before facing Anderson instead of during the fight.

I agree that he needs a tune-up of sorts first to have any real chance against Anderson.

Of course the rub is finding the right mix of qualities in a potential oppenent that it serves as a tune up, but hopefully doesn’t break him…

No one with any wrestling to speak of for sure…fairly good striker…BJJ doesn’t matter much, so long as the don’t have any type of good takedowns…

Suggestions…?

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 3, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chris Leben. The Anderson Silva path to fame and fortune. He should have to beat either Nate, Okami or Belcher in my opinion, to earn a shot. Yushin’s been passed over before due to injury, and deserves a #1 contender fight IMO, but he’s too tough a matchup. Destructivists suggestion of Dan Miller is a pretty good winnable fight. If the UFC is so dead set on getting Vitor a tune-up fight, rather than making him earn a title shot, they might just as well go with Brian Stann. What’s really surprising to me is that the UFC considers Vitor such a marketable, high profile star at this point. I’m a bit of a Vitor fan, and I’d like to see him fight Anderson, but this whole situation is really sketchy.

by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 3, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, that was an amazing read

This is front page quality… and the Vitor comparison is much better then the Brandon Vera one that the UFC hype machine fed before their fight

by majuca8 on Aug 2, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

excellent

dealing with Post-World Cup Depression

by DamnSevern on Aug 2, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

this is a really important topic

because it’s going to be Jones’ ability to handle what happens outside the octagon that determines his future inside it.

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 3, 2010 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Lyoto?

I dunno about that.

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 3, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

same for Rashad

they both made game planning mistakes but neither to my knowledge made lifestyle mistakes

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 3, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

there was talk that after winning the belt, Lyoto became such a huge star that he had trouble maintaining focus, unused to having his attention divided to such a degree. I think that’s what he may be referring to.

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by Grappo on Aug 4, 2010 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a tip

Your chance of getting front paged will increase dramatically if can shorten these. The info is good, but these entries are really too long.

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by Luke Thomas on Aug 3, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Have to disagree with you...

Not about the front page chances, that’s obviously your call, but about it being too long.

I enjoy a mix of article styles and types, long and short, and I appreciate the depth.

Then again, I’m often accused of being long-winded myself, so…

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 3, 2010 1:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

effective writing puts in to play writing less and saying more

this article was good no doubt, but that is one of the principles of effective writing

by HitokiriX on Aug 3, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

not a rule

it doesn’t necessarily mean that shorter articles are better.

Your average person can read 250 words per minute. This article is what, 1,500 words, give or take? If you can’t be bothered to pay attention to an article for 6 minutes then move on to the next but don’t complain about long article, I like them, I don’t want to be fed snippets of information.

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by splint on Aug 3, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

This whole article takes less than five minutes to read. How much shorter do you want it to be?

by crazybones on Aug 3, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

who you talking too?

I am laughing at all the “too long” comments. Apparently some peopl can’t read for 5 minutes on the same topic.

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by splint on Aug 3, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just replying to the last comment

by crazybones on Aug 3, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 words shorter:

Make no “bones” about it

Just teasing—rec’d despite the pun;)

by casey manrique on Aug 3, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Efficiency and simplicity, including a lack of wordiness are hallmarks of effective writing, but I really don’t see much superfluous information in this article – it is clear, concise and well organized.

Some topics lend themselves well to just “snippets” of information, but this is really about as streamlined as it can get without leaving important information out.

I understand that some have neither the attention span nor the desire to read longer pieces, and for them I say just skip it – there are plenty of other pieces for them to read.

As an aside, I’m guessing this has to be some sort of record for the ratio of # of recs to # of reads.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 3, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

true

but HitokiriX seemed to imply that there was a lot of fluff in this article, something you and I disagree with. It could have easily been a short post saying “jon Jones is being hyped much like Vitor Belfort was so keep in mind that good manamgement, planning and training plays a big role.”

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by splint on Aug 3, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a shame, I’m actually GLAD someone is writing lengthy, in depth articles. There was nothing in there that wasn’t relevant and it kept my interest the entire time.

by robotplague on Aug 3, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

IT’S NOT EVEN LENGTHY! IT’S LIKE 1500 WORDS!

by crazybones on Aug 3, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

we’re looking at Numbers in a pretty serious way and let’s just say it’s cool to crank out these longer pieces daily, but we’re mainly looking for guys who can crank out blog posts by the half dozen in a day.

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 3, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

For me personally, articles like this add value to the site.

I’ll agree that there probably aren’t many who want them all this long, even when they are this well done, but I for one greatly enjoy them.

As long as the front page portion before the jump is kept to a usable length, I see no reason not include this type of work regularly, when the quality warrants it.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 3, 2010 10:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

One of the things I enjoy about Number’s articles is their length. It provides contrast from many of the posts on BE, in length as well as in flavor.

by castleeb on Aug 3, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luke...

I got mad respect for you, but disagree in this circumstance. In general, I think you are very correct. However, this write-up was exceptional. The break was perfect. The front page briefly gave you enough info to help you decide whether to click and keep reading. I haven’t noticed this fan poster before, but I am very impressed!

by flassasin24 on Aug 3, 2010 10:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Nice article...

a bit long… but nonetheless good info

rec’d

by HitokiriX on Aug 3, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Not Vitor..... Chuck

I’d be much more concerned about him becoming the next Chuck than the next Vitor.

by Ironbuddha on Aug 3, 2010 1:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

hell if he goes on to be the greatest LHW in UFC history

before his lifestyle and age catch up with him he won’t be doing so bad
Vitor never quite made it. Chuck reached the mountain top and fell off a little sooner than he might have otherwise.

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 3, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not what I meant

Chuck fell apart when the money and fame got to him. That didn’t occur right away as both the UFC and the “Iceman” were built side by side with Chuck’s run in the LHW division.

Jon Jones will have all that fame and money from the first day he takes the belt.

In terms of the football analogies – those are weak. Having the talent to play college football doesn’t gaurantee that you have the talent to play in the pros. A better fit would be Ryan Leaf, who had the talent to play in the pros, and there were legitimate arguments at the time as to who would have the better career – Leaf or Manning, but who received a $40 million contract from the Chargers and immediately started acting like an asshole and stopped caring about the game.

by Ironbuddha on Aug 3, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

the fact that his strategy was to takedown and crucifix matyushenko

totally shows his intense skill, what other fighter in the world could realistically make that their gameplan and go out and execute it on a guy like matyushenko

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Aug 3, 2010 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Anderson silva v. Jones

The UFC need to make this fight. Jones is the only fighter with the size, length, athleticism, coupled with a strong wrestling base, and a great game team. The UFC needs to make this fight happen soon before Silva departs or retires undefeated in the UFC,

by MMA Fan, Ph.D on Aug 3, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Granted, Jones is really early in his career, but everyone seems to be afraid of all of this hype going to his head. I say, give him the toughest competition possible. If he beats a guy like Anderson, then good. Maybe Anderson won’t dance in his next fight. If he loses, then he remains humble. Sounds like a good way to prevent the issue that so many are worried about. I say he fights Anderson or Lyoto. (I am aware that Lyoto fights Rampage next, but I think Lyoto will destroy Rampage and has a better shot at beating Bones than Shogun. Styles make fights.)

by RyanHobbs on Aug 3, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

^^This^^

Very well said and I agree almost entirely. I think Machida is the toughest test at LHW for Jones right now, but Anderson or a healthy Shogun would be very dangerous as well.

Personally I think it would be advantageous to Jones’ career to face the very best now, even if it means taking a loss.

If anything, a loss to one of those 3 guys, especially in a long & hard fought, but convincing manner would help him stay grounded and working hard – and not start believing his own clippings.

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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 3, 2010 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yup

When i think about the fight i think how will Silva deal with jones, when really it should be the other way around. Anderson is a superior striker no doubt, but I dont see him dancing around with Jones in he cage.

Jones creative striking vs Andersons elusiveness/percision is a great match.

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by Thats It For you! on Aug 3, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

They didn’t have any NHL prodigy busts so I’ll list a few:

Alexander Daigle
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by DirtyML on Aug 3, 2010 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d also like to applaud you in writing this article that i enjoyed quite a bit in spite of the part were you talked up that silly silly man Ray Kurzweil.

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by Goonisis on Aug 3, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah I enjoy reading Kurzweil

but he’s a hokum artist.

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 3, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dare you to say that to Cyborg Kurzweil in 100 years.

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by splint on Aug 3, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like how Greg Jackson calls Bones an “artist” in the video…fitting.

by Dark Tower on Aug 3, 2010 2:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I like how Jackson wants to work with Bones’ creativity and unorthodox fighting style.

by RyanHobbs on Aug 3, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for this!

RIP, Coach Wooden.

Thank you, Geoff Petrie.

by JETisKing on Aug 3, 2010 3:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Great article...

And I’m a huge Jones fan… keep it coming Jones, and Numbers. I didn’t find it too long at all. Not sure why long articles are less attractive for frontpage? E.g. could post with a warning tag signalling that the full article is long.

by Arca MMA on Aug 3, 2010 5:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent article, thanks Numbers.

Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.

by MarcoDos on Aug 3, 2010 5:35 AM EDT reply actions  

The sky is the limit for this guy, and it is going to be alot of fun to see his career progress.

I think a fight against the Bader v Nogeria winner for a title shot would be the appropriate next step. I also think that it should be on the next Lesnar PPV, or a really stacked new years show, it might mean a little wait for Jones, but that is where the most eye balls and hype will be.

by dpk875 on Aug 3, 2010 5:39 AM EDT reply actions  

They are bringing him up slowly but if they want him to remain so humble, maybe he SHOULD fight a guy like Anderson Silva or Lyoto Machida. I know Machida is supposed to fight Rampage next, but if that fight were to not happen due to an injury; bring Bones in as a replacement. I see these guys being able to humble Jones. Everyone is so worried about this all going to his head. Well lets put him up against competition that would make him an underdog. Lets see if we can’t keep him humble. Just a thought.

by RyanHobbs on Aug 3, 2010 5:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting

I honestly believe that his energy is in the right place. He’s a focused guy, and I think he’ll remain relatively humble.

They made the GSP/Hughes fight perhaps before GSP was ready, and he lost that fight and didn’t lose perspective. He busted his butt and got back in there until he was better than Hughes. I think it’s not a bad approach. He was 23 when he lost to Hughes, and it was a full 2 years before he got another shot. Jones just turned 23. I guess the question is whether the UFC feels like they did the right thing with GSP or whether they should have waited another year.

Use all ten points.

by MasonA on Aug 3, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will say this, Jones coming up slowly gives him the opportunity to remain undefeated as a champion and that is a very marketable aspect. (I know that he has that DQ loss to Hammill, but lets be real. No one wants to see them have a rematch because that is generally viewed as a dominant win for Bones.) That may be the approach that the UFC wants to take. Who knows? I personally think they will put him up against Forrest or Thiago Silva next. This is all pending on how long it takes for their injuries to heal but they are the only top 205ers that aren’t booked right now. I suppose Franklin is a possibility. He too is healing up from that broken arm.

by RyanHobbs on Aug 3, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

That Hammil performance was amongst the most dominant I’ve ever seen. I mean, it was a solid 10 minutes after the fight and Hammil could STILL barely stand, and looked like he had no idea where he was. That was an ass whipping of epic proportions, although not the biggest I’ve ever seen, that award still goes to GSP/Hughes III.

by Hutchy on Aug 3, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since Rashad didn't want a Lyoto match...

Offer him Bones while he waits for his title shot. That will give Evans to show either he has balls/confidence or to be a chicken/ducker. Overall I like Evans, despite most ppls dislike of him, but he still has to prove to me he’s a real gamer. If he’s game, he should jump at the chance to fight Jones. Great for profile, chance to humble the up-and-comer and prove he deserves to be the champ again.

by Arca MMA on Aug 3, 2010 6:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Teammates

Jones vs Evans won’t happen as long as they are both training at Jackson’s.

by Seel007 on Aug 3, 2010 6:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Isn't Mr. Sugar leaving?

Might be BS but I’ve heard (possibly on here) that Rashad and McSweeney are leaving Jackson’s.

by Terminhater on Aug 3, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jones has flat out said this week he won't fight Rashad

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by duck on Aug 3, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is well thought out piece, but I’m starting to find the prevailing discussion surrounding Jones to be more than a little bit patronizing.

Jones isn’t a college prospect in danger of becoming a washout; he is a third-year pro who has risen to every challenge that he’s been faced with and left a trail of bodies in his wake.

It strikes me that in the absence of legitimate criticism, the MMA community has manufactured a bunch of phantom fears about what perils might arise if he continues his meteoric ascent.

Jones is a full-grown man who has given every indication of being a classy, humble fighter with a clear understanding of what it takes to get better. By all accounts, he comes from a strong family and has a clear ethical and moral base from which to deal with the temptations of fame.

I also think it’s a little ridiculous to suggest that there is something that the UFC can do to ensure that he doesn’t fall prey to one or more of these phantom threats. As if by feeding him lesser competition and talking about how far he has to go, they are going to somehow save him from himself.

Either his upbringing has given him the tools to make wise choices (all evidence points to this being the case) or it hasn’t and he has to make his own mistakes.

Jones is fine. He has given us no reason to worry about his future, so let’s enjoy his career, and ask the UFC to get him in against better guys.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on Aug 3, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

well written

“As if by feeding him lesser competition and talking about how far he has to go, they are going to somehow save him from himself.”

I find this way of thinking very strange. As you say, he is 23 and has three professional years under his belt- he isn’t a 21 year old NFL rookie about to start training camp. Give him Machida and free up Rampage for Griffin (a better stylistic matchup). He is a high level professional looking to make real money in big fights. Please, no more mid level guys.

If he loses to Machida, oh well, he lost a fight to one of the very top guys in the division. I think he crushes Machida and the hype train picks up more steam.

by chimps on Aug 3, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. We’re talking about all this, but Jones has given no reason for concern. I heard not a peep about this during Jose Aldo’s title run.

by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Living in Albuquerque

will keep Jones grounded. I grew up in New Mexico (southern) and the lack of glitz and glamor will allow Bones to focus on training, eating correctly (so long as he stays away from the delicious burritos), relaxing, etc. while not indulging in the typical pitfalls of upcoming pro athletes (women, status, etc.)

"The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world..."

by Rudinho479 on Aug 3, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Compared to upstate NY

isn’t NM like Vegas? :)

"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop

by duck on Aug 3, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah Humbug.

I want to see Jon Jones massacre some heavyweights.

Let’s bring Tim Sylvia back to the UFC just so he can fight Bones. Frank Mir? That sounds like a fun fight. James Toney? Would be awesome to see Bones knock him out with a spinning back-hand pimp-slap.

Ahhh, the possibilities are endless for this guy. But if he’s going to be at LHW, yeah, he should be in a one-step-from-a-title-shot fight now. Didn’t do GSP any harm to fight Hughes before he was ready. Won’t do Jones any harm either.

by Lauren J Darkbloom on Aug 3, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

My brother mentioned a parallel between Jones and Anthony “Rumble” Johnson. While I believe that the sky is the limit for Jones, I do feel that there are some things to consider that my brother mentioned. For one, Jones really hasn’t been tested quite yet as far as how he is on his back, and there are still questions about his standup. Of course, with limbs like his and how he has used them so far, he will have unique abilities both off his back and standing up. With Rumble, he was KOing and TKOing everyone, and a contingent of MMA fans wanted him to fight GSP, but once he stepped up in competition and fought Koscheck, Rumble’s weaknesses were exposed. While it could happen to Bones, I personally don’t think it will happen, but it is not unheard of either. Jones has been beating the mid-tier of the UFC, and many want to see him fight the top five of the division, and he may sink or swim. I feel that the UFC is pushing him the right way though.

by chrisbboy82 on Aug 4, 2010 2:22 AM EDT reply actions  

this is one of the smartest things i've seen on BE

and on MMA in general, in a long time.

nicely done.

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by bobthewriter on Aug 4, 2010 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

next opponent

I think Bisping would be perfect for him at this stage of his career, what do you think? I think as long as he keeps his same attitude and continues his workouts and learning, he’s going to be the next Silva.

by sonnyboy1 on Aug 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

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