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Unbeaten Olympic judo convert Rick Hawn (8-0) punched out Shonie Carter (49-24-7, 1 NC) at 4:08 of round two in their main event bout at Triumph Fighter 3 in New Hampshire on Saturday.

According to Mark Daniels of the Boston Herald, the Massachusetts-based welterweight has "caught the attention of UFC matchmaker Joe Silva" and could be headed to the big show soon.

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Wasn't he supposed to face Estima not too long ago?

"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn

by lowellthehammer on Aug 2, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, at the canceled Shine Fights show.

by Chris Nelson on Aug 2, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a lot of people were favoring Estima because he was the “bigger” name. Personally, I thought Hawn was going to pull the “upset”.

by KAN0 on Aug 2, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would have been close. A great top game and heavy GnP vs. a sick guard — that’s a coin toss to me.

by judonerd on Aug 2, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t know how well Estima’s BJJ would transfer over to MMA being that he has never competed in MMA. I was favoring Hawn because he actually had MMA experince, plus the fact that he competed in Judo at the highest level.

by KAN0 on Aug 2, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

All true, but....

Hawn was never a world beater in Judo. He was just good enough to get on the US team.

Unfortunately, as far as talent goes, American Judo ranks somewhere between American soccer and chinese hockey.

by judonerd on Aug 2, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

very interesting prospect

love me some judo guys! wonder if he’s your usual judoka coming into MMA — ie Yoshida, Sokoudjou — or if he’s more Karo style?

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 2, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s a hybrid for sure. I’ve seen him hit some big trips/tosses in fights, but almost all his wins are by TKO. Scary dude.

by Chris Nelson on Aug 2, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 2, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he uses his judo, good.

by Kefka on Aug 2, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a huge fan of judokas myself. Been hoping he gets signed to the UFC for a while now, so I hope this is legit.

"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre

by Charles Awad on Aug 2, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it'd be awesome

if he led a bunch of other judokas into MMA

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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 2, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem

is the political nature of international Judo (don’t get me started). Going into MMA is a surefire way to get shunned and lose sponsorships.

by judonerd on Aug 2, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too much to say. I’d have to write a fanpost.

by judonerd on Aug 2, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That could be an interesting fanpost.

by KAN0 on Aug 2, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd read it

"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop

by duck on Aug 2, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do it

Do it NAO

To some extent I’m wondering whether Rick Hawn is from what I’m calling the “Gokor school” like Karo Parisyan, or whether he’s limited like Sokoudjou claimed about judo. (See Parisyan’s distaste for Sokoudjou’s own talking down of judo, after Barnett asked at a Impact FC presser.)

by Chortles on Aug 2, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Karo was Karo

you would never see someone grappling like him in a Judo school. Arguably, you would never see it in BJJ schools either. He came from the Gokor/Lebell lineage, with all that catch wrestling mixed up with Judo. Its a shame he self-destructed.

No, imagine Soukoudjou with a growing BJJ game (and a lot more heart) and you get Hawn.

by judonerd on Aug 3, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's more of a Lombard

Stays standing to get the top position and prefers to deliver strikes.

If you look him up on YouTube, you’ll see he really loves the drop seoi, but that’s a really tough move to pull off without the gi.

by judonerd on Aug 2, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

just googled “drop seoi” and that’s yet another thing i was taught in HS wrestling that i now find out comes from judo. my coach must have been a secret judoka or something, though he never used any japanese terms.

you’re right it’s different and a bit more difficult without the gi because you don’t have that supplemental collar grip along with the arm-drag. it can be done though, just slightly modified into pure arm-drag hip toss.

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by eastcoastatlas on Aug 2, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as i know

we gave wrestling the drop seoi and a few trips, but wrestling gave us the morote gari and kata guruma.

by judonerd on Aug 2, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

double leg and fireman carry

kinda blown my mind right now with the whole chicken and egg concept. you should drop some knowledge on some shit nerd

ufc fan boy all the way

by georgehouse on Aug 3, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

Man, that’s an arm drag!

"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop

by duck on Aug 2, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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