UFC on Versus 2 Post-Fight: Jon Jones Wants to Face a Top Contender... or James Toney
Following his very impressive victory over Vladimir Matyushenko, Jon Jones said that he is ready to take a step up in competition and take on the best guys in the division:
"Every opponent I've had are really tough guys. Right now, I'm passing these tests with flying colors. I really don't want to sound arrogant, so I've got to be careful the way I word this, but I want to fight someone who's really going to give me a really tough test. That has to be the champion or whoever. I want to fight someone who's supposedly much better than me ... so I can really step up and evolve to a different level."
"There's the champion (Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua), and he's the toughest guy right now. He's very well-rounded. He's a great striker. Just like the top three contenders. I really want to push myself against the No. 1, 2 and 3 guys now. I really feel like that needs to happen. The top three guys are the guys I'd like to fight – except for (teammate) Rashad (Evans), obviously."
Jones, who looked much bigger in this fight, said that if it wasn't a top light heavyweight contender, he wouldn't mind going up a weight class to face James Toney. The pro-boxer has recently said that he wanted to slap Jones, and it seems to have irked the admittedly sensitive 23-year-old:
"I got up to about 231 (pounds) this time around, and today I performed around 226 (pounds), so this is the heaviest I've ever performed at, and I felt as if I was just as fast,"
"Randy Couture, he bumps up to heavyweight all the time, and he always looks very impressive against the slower guy," Jones said. "And now I actually have a heavyweight that I wouldn't mind fighting. That's James Toney – 'Mr. I'm going to slap Jon in the face.' I'd bump up for that fight any day."
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That would be awesome!
First, we’ll have Randy maul him with some Greco Roman wrestling against the cage before taking him down and finishing him via GnP or RNC.
Then, we’ll have Jon Jones spinning back kick him before throwing him around a few times and finishing him off via his GnP elbows of death.
Lastly, before I leave I just want to say that if James Toney knocks out Randy Couture I will cry. =(
Actually, and argument could be made that would be a good thing
And let Jon Jones be the one who introduces James Toney to the canvas. With his length, those back kicks and flying knees would keep Toney at distance, and there’s no way Toney could stop Jon’s trips. And once it’s on the floor, God help James Toney. Because Jon won’t stop until the ref peels him off.
"I might know a couple things that you don't know. 'Cause I've been young, but you ain't never been old." - Elvin Bishop
PLEASE LET THAT HAPPEN
Tony had no idea Jones who is from a smaller weight class would do this. I hope they make this fight happen because Jones would ruin Tony. They are both about 230lbs but Jones can do it all and all Tony has is boxing.
I would pay $100 on ppv to watch Bones maul Bologna Toney. Just saying…
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by ANance on Aug 2, 2010 11:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think this reaction is what the UFC is hoping to get more of, for his fight with Randy Couture.
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 2, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
The thought of Jones fighting Toney
Is enough for me to hope that actually Toney beats Couture, just so Jones can fight him.
Jones’ next fight really needs to be on the Lesnar card if at all possible, just for the exposure.
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think they will wait and see
what Tony can do with Randy. If Randy dumps this guy in round one and pounds him out Tony will say he did it for money and I doubt you could justify another mismatch.
Man there are some really humourless twats on here as far as James Toney goes. What do some people want Toney to say? ‘’I really respect Mr Couture, who is most likely going to take me down and pound me out, i’m only a one dimensional boxer. Whatever you do don’t buy the PPV.‘’ It’s called selling the fight you douchebags! Toney is a hall of famer in boxing, Jon Jones, talented as he is, hasn’t even fought a top 10 guy yet.
Handicap match
Jones/Couture vs. Toney. No disqualification. At the end of the fight they can have Coleman, Severn, Frye, and all the old school wrestlers run in and beat the shit out of Toney. Also, Brock Lesnar is the special referee.
I wish Kimbo wasn't cut
just so he could face Toney
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
i agree it’s time to test jones
that’s what i was saying last night on snowdens jones should fight chuck article
jones has passed every test put before him with ease
i think it’s time to truly test him and hold him up against the light and see what he’s made of
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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 2, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
they should scrap the Page/Machida fight
and make it Jones/Machida, that’s way more interesting for me
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
They should scrap it
And let either Rampage or Machida face Jones.
I agree Machida makes a lot more sense, as a fight between him & Jones could potentially be a great fight, where as Machida / Rampage or Jones / Rampage are pretty much foregone conclusions.
Unlike Machida or Jones, Rampage wouldn’t have any problem finding guys willing to fight him – he is still a big “name” guy.
That way Rampage could fight someone more in his league (Franklin, Griffin or Couture perhaps).
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 1:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i would like to see machida vs jones
i’m just done with seeing jones in fights that we all know he’s gonna win
i want to see him be tested
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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 2, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I think Machida is the single worst match-up among the current top UFC LHWs with his elite TDD and clinch game.
Anderson and Rua would be very difficult fights as well for Jones, but not quite the same.
I’m sure Rampage would gladly give up his fight with Machida, seeing as he didn’t want it in the first place.
Frankly, even if Jones lost to Machida, a very real possibility, that is the best fight for him now.
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m sorry I’m sure I’m alone in this but I’m not on the Jon Jones bandwagon.I think he would be get his ass handed to him against Rua, Machida , and Rampage. I do think he needs to go up in competition though.I think he needs to fight Thiago Silva , Rich Franklin maybe even Ryan Bader. If Jon fought Chuck I think he would win but it would not be an easy win.
I can’t wait to see Jon jones lose though I’m sick of this hype he is getting.
chuck's chin is styrofoam now
did you get the memo?
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 2, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you serious?
Rua, Machida or Anderson would be great fights, and some Jones might well lose.
But Rampage should not be listed in with those guys, or with any group of guys with a good chance against Jones.
Rampage, Franklin, Griffin, Couture, Liddell or any of the other “name” fighters just below the elites would get ruined by Jones, aside from the ever-present “puncher’s chance”.
Nog Lite or Thiago Silva would be decent next fights if none of the “name” guys are available, willing and able.
Jones is going to find himself stuck in the Machida category where no one wants to fight him – too much risk of losing for such a limited upside since the majority of fans would consider a Jones victory as an upset (LMFAO) against the “name” guys.
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He would ruin Rampage, but had a good fight with briltzed Nog and Thiago Silva. Something’s not right.
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it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Aug 2, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What i said was
“Nog Lite or Thiago Silva would be decent next fights if none of the "name" guys are available, willing and able.”
I don’t consider those guys better than the “name” guys, but they are not well known.
The advantage with Diet Nog is he’s a different type of fighter than Jones has seen, something of a poor man’s Rua.
Jones is just a horrible match-up for Rampage, although FTR, I think Rampage takes Lil’ Nog or T. Silva as well.
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rampage takes Lil' Nog.
But Thiago Silva murders ’Page.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
My bad, I misread your comment. I stayed up all night to watch the fights and now fatigue takes it’s toll.
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by dancingChicken on Aug 3, 2010 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Please stop mentioning Anderson.
It’s so far from being feasible that it’s annoying. You have all these LHW and then you mention a MW.
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I agree Jones would be able to beat griffin, couture , chuck and franklin but I still think rampage can drop Jones.
That'd be interesting
Rampage’s boxing is really only strong in close; I feel Jones could use his range and speed to hurt Jackson from the outside without being exposed to the devastating short hooks, somewhat similar to one part of Rashad’s gameplan but with more reach.
At the same time, Jones could easily make a mistake leaving him too close while striking, and he doesn’t have a shot like Rashad’s, his takedowns mostly come from the clinch. Also, Jones has a more active top game, and it’d be interesting to see Jackson’s defense on the ground if it gets there. It’d be interesting to see how that fight would play out and compare to Evans-Jackson.
Powerful as Rampage is,
Its still over-rated IMO…he has all of 4 flash KOs, and one of those came via head-butt + slam.
Rampage, like most other top LHWs aside from Rua, Anderson and Machida, is just way too slow for Jones.
Between Jones’ speed, quickness, length, strength and wide variety of techniques to draw from, Rampage’s plodding one-dimensional style would be exposed like Anderson – Griffin, or Jones – Maty…
I actually hope against hope for that fight, because hopefully the Rampage fanboys would bet heavily on him, maybe keeping the odds under -350 for Jones.
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 1:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
………..
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
I feel like the elephant in the room is:
Jones could conceivably make the whole LHC division look like NOOBS—if not now, then in a year or two.
Then you are stuck with another GSP or Silva, where title challenges just aren’t compelling any more, the division is cleaned out, and the stock of your roster of fighters goes down in the public eye.
yeah but what you’re not taking into consideration is how deep the talent is at lhw
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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 2, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it really though?
It’s top heavy but someone like Rampage/Thiago Silva will never compete for a belt again. Neither will Forrest.
You have Rashad/Machida/Rua at the top
Lil Nog/Rampage/Jones/Silva/Forrest in the middle
Bader looking to break in and Phil Davis coming up.
But it gets tired when you look at the overall health.
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The good news is, Jones is probably not staying at 205. He’s already enormous, and he’s still growing into his frame.
He has such a weird frame
But does he fill out like Lesnar or will he be a trim HW?
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I’m thinking he will look more like a slightly scaled-down version of Overeem.
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 1:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jon Jones and the Large Hadron Collider....
We have an explanation.
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by pdl on Aug 2, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
goddamn noobie particle physicists
We need to get Jone’s ass to Switzerland ASAP. Based on his performance last night, Jones is ready to step up and figure out the fundamental nature of the universe.
Anderson Silva and Steven Segal secretly brought me into training camp to learn the art of goat choking...
by Goat choker 1 on Aug 2, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
with the power and precision on his gnp elbows
why not make him the crucial component of a fusion reactor? Sure, the LHW title is prestigious, but this way he could break the entropic cycle!
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 2, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa whoa whoa...his elbows are WAY TOO DANGEROUS
We don’t want to overload the system. Isn’t it only designed to operate at a TeV capacity?
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by Goat choker 1 on Aug 2, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
jones understands his talent and ability
and he needs a top guy. I said it before this fight, I would pick him to win against every single guy in the LHW division, including shogun and machida. He is too fast, too athletic, already technical and getting moreso by the month. He would be able to take down machida and shogun with little problem and maul them on the ground. I think that Evans poses his biggest challenge stylistically, but that aint gonna happen.
Did jones even break a sweat during that fight? He easily could fight next week if he had an opponent.
his one handed cartwheel when he entered the ring looked a bit challenging.
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 2, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Advice to James Toney
What you want to do is find a mountainous 3rd-world country to escape to, because mountain towns are VERY easy to hide in. I recommend Spain, where there are already plenty of darker skinned people so you won’t really stand out too much. Also, that language ought to be easier to pick up than most. Good luck, friend, and here’s hoping Jones is willing to forget about you in the next few years!
Your parents must be siblings.
advice to iKilled007
Stop posting ridiculous comments.
Jones said he fought The Janitor @ 226 lbs.
WTF is the point of even having weight classes.. just to see who is better at cutting weight? FFS LH is 205, they should fight at 205. I know i’m in the minority here but maybe Mass had it right doing the double-weigh in. If the fighter fucks around sure it could be harmful to his health, but hey heres an idea… you are in the 205lb weight class (or any other weight class). You won’t have any health issues if you fucking weigh 205! Christ. Commence hating…NAO
by nicey on Aug 2, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah
the Janitor probably came in at 205 fight night… if you want examples of people coming in at their true weight class, take a look at Wandy and see what that did for him. if everyone is cutting weight, you can’t single one fighter out from the rest, it’s part of the game.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
There is some sense behind your sentiment,
But no safe, practical way to make it happen – weight cutting is just too deeply ingrained in the sporting world.
It would have to have widespread support among the various ACs and, to do it safely, have a series of weigh-ins over the 7, 10 or even 14 days before the fight.
It would totally change the landscape, that’s for sure.
And we would get to see who the 185er is – Anderson or GSP.
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 7:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jon Jones vs. Anderson Silva
I’d like to see this fight just to see what looks like two spider monkeys going at it (not a racist comment, based on their freakishly long limbs)
hell yah,
give him the winner of bader/nog. that’s a great #1 contender match for the winner of Rua/Evans (which is to say, Rua)
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 2, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i think
that is a completely reasonable solution to the problem at hand
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by Johnathan Willis on Aug 2, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
thats one fight in the next year
rua/evans isnt until spring or next summer- I would much rather see jones fight machida. Judging by comments I’ve seen here, ppl seem to think that machida would win- I think jones would smash him in R1 and I’m a machida fan.
I dunno then...
Jones is looking pretty hard to beat now, and I’m a machida fan too.
Maybe Zoofers could put some of the hype muscle behind P. Davis, depending on how his next thing turns out.
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by some schmuck in texas on Aug 2, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see him fight Machida
I am a fan of both of them and I think Jones would win.
Your parents must be siblings.
They are 2 of my 4 favorite fighters,
But I honestly can’t say how that one would likely go – I could see it being a very evenly matched fight, or very 1-sided either way.
At the end of the day, I’d take Jones but…
Phil Davis would be an awesome fight too…
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 2, 2010 7:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's more a case of
Historically Machida’s had an experience (Jones agreed on this point) and possible technique advantage — but Jones is catching up FAST in the latter department.

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