RoidGate 2010: Shane Carwin still silent on steroid connection; media as well
by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 17, 2010 5:05 PM EDT
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On Friday, a story broke on AL.com that, according to evidence and documents, UFC Fighter Shane Carwin was a recipient of several steroids for a period of several months that encapsulated several of his earlier fights. While the "major" MMA media has been deathly silent (especially in compared to the Roger Huerta story), a small few journalists/bloggers have given some commentary to the issue as well as the implications of it. Four days later, the biggest name in this entire fiasco still has not spoken, the man implicating in the released evidence, Shane Carwin.
Carwin, before this story broke, was vocal in his disdain against fighting TUF Season 10 winner Roy Nelson. When asked through his favorite medium Twitter about fighting Nelson, Carwin sarcastically responded "Roy who?", "he's not a top contender", and that Nelson is the "only one" thinking about that fight. Apparently Carwin is upset that Roy said his UFC 117 opponent Junior Dos Santos is a better fighter than Carwin; then Carwin went boating. When news got out about the Carwin/steroids connection, Nelson made a comment on his Twitter commenting about the case and how he wished the "real MMA media would investigate the steroid claims" right before going in for knee surgery.
Nelson's concerns are that of anyone else. Will the "real MMA media" start to dig in and look into these charges or will they remain silent? MMAWeekly still has only the original article written days ago stating the release of Carwin's name. MMAJunkie is the same. Both stories are deep on the front page. Yahoo's MMA coverage has nothing on the front page, yet it has a story about a fake wrestler dying (which is tragic, but doesn't even mention MMA or the UFC at all). Cage Potato, like the rest, also has the same original story (not appearing on the front page) about Carwin's alleged ties to the illegal steroid ring. ESPN's Jake Rossen has an article which does appear in the top 5 stories section. The same blog also appears on Sherdog.com's front page. This is the only story on any of the major MMA websites that even offers editorial commentary on the issue.
So why the hush?...
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1) People who attach “Gate” to every minor story need to be shot out of a cannon
2) Are you asking those MMA sites to manufacture some new stories about Carwin? Because I’m not sure exactly what you’re expecting them to write about. There hasn’t really been any new information to come out. Nobody with access to Carwin, or Dana White, or Marc Ratner has the inclination to ask them anything about the story.
Now, if you’re asking for more CONTENT to be produced for this story, I’d check the opinion-based blogs. I’m sure one of them will have an unedited, 1000+ word plus mess of a post filled with breathless speculation, half-assed character judgement and silly pictures culled from Google Images. Let me know if you find anything like that.
by smoogy2 on Aug 17, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
The "Gate" part was a Colbertian insert
I’m comparing it to the Huerta story. All we had was a grainy video of what happened and everyone and their mother covered it. There was story after story about it. Every UFC on Twitter commented about it. Blah blah. An actual issue? Not a peep.
LOL @ your last paragraph. You’re a funny dude.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 17, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is my mother also a whore?
I’m not going for “accuracy”.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 17, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you for continually bumping my shit
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 18, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Round One
Goes to Smoogy2.
"You stick a microphone in a guy's face and he calls out anybody but the champion, and Joe Silva should fax him a pink slip right then." -- Chael Sonnen.
Props to smoogy2
You laid it on him, deservedly so.
Ever since the steroid allegation news broke, he’s has been working hard trying to attack Carwin from every angle possible from humor to farcical character assessments. Its really quite pathetic, really.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
I don't have to work hard
I’ve seen the indictments and the evidence of the case.
The man has juiced.
His tweets to Nelson show that he is petty and a hypocrite.
I don’t have to do much else but post what he’s already done.
His actions are “quite pathetic”.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 18, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm objective when it calls for it
When it’s something that requires an opinion, I’ll give mine. When it comes to reporting facts, I’ll do those. You’ll see later on today.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 19, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
it really is strange that people pay so much attention to a possible steroid connection(even though given Carwin’s size it is probably true) than people who have failed test in the past. A failed test for fighters such as sean sherk or stephan bonnar get a small suspension as opposed to what is being suggested for Carwin by some.
Sherk and Sylvia and Barnett get theirs in the media
No one is expecting Carwin to be suspended, nor asking. I don’t want him to get in trouble at all.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 17, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If he did something wrong, I do.
But as someone who just took steroids to get over a lung issue, I know that being named as someone who may have received a steroid product isn’t the same as a positive test.
It needs to be addressed, sure, but ‘the media’ can’t make shit up, and the UFC and Carwin sure aren’t offering up more info.
The story comes when the story comes.
Koscheck eats it.
Maybe if you looked at the types of steroids he received
You don’t use those for health issues. They were animal steroids.
I’m just waiting for a call from the USDOJ and my story will be complete.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't doubt it.
But, as a media guy, if there’s a chance Carwin owns a racehorse, or was roomies with someone using who used his name to buy, I can’t go publishing an article that damns him as guilty of injecting horse roids in his ass.
When the facts are out, the axe comes down.
Koscheck eats it.
Go to WKR and read my piece
The facts are there.
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2010/8/19/1630168/the-steroid-conspiracy-and-shane
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 19, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wait, another Black Lesnar bashing Shane Carwin article?
who would’ve thunk it?
Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down
Another amadeus comment on SCM's nuts
We expect it.
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 17, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
you're the ann coulter of the sb nation mma community
it’s almost as if, no matter what you say, i have to disagree, because it’s you.
oh yeah, and sometimes, haters GOTTA hate.
Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down
by Austin Martin on Aug 18, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Attention Carwin nuthuggers
I don’t mind if you take the approach “He never pissed dirty, therefore we must reserve judgment and give the benefit of the doubt.” That’s not an outrageous stance.
I will ask you however, to look deep inside yourself and answer this question: Under the same circumstances, would you afford Brock Lesnar the same latitude if it was his name on those records and not Carwin’s?
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
They've given Lesnar much more shit without his name coming out
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 18, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Buying steroids vs testing positive for steroids
Shane Carwin was named in open court as a purchaser of steroids. But we don’t have any proof that he ever used them because he never got caught.
My wife never caught me rubbing one out either, but my credit card still reflects a DVD purchase for the sequel to Big Black Poles, Little White Holes.
I never got caught because I know exactly when my wife comes home from work, so I have plenty of time to hide the DVD and clean myself up.
Just sayin’
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Aug 18, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha, BTW BBP, LWH is a great flick
Great analogy
/sarcasm
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by S.C. Michaelson on Aug 18, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I must be shameless
Cause I’ll jerk it in front of anyone. A lot of girls seem to like it, too.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 18, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Naw...
I’m only into doing it in person.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 18, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Best CR video ever
http://www.myvidster.com/video/118881/Blackmailing_for_tits_on_Chatroulette_with_a_bird_
"You stick a microphone in a guy's face and he calls out anybody but the champion, and Joe Silva should fax him a pink slip right then." -- Chael Sonnen.
who’s got the juice now you middle manner super man peace of shit!
lol woah that was too much i apologize for my actions
LMAO BLesnar u and jesse are ridiculous reviewing porn on a mma site
its war hammer all over again
but in all seriousness look, im not saying he used them but yea i fucking agree if you bought them well im sure he didnt pull a mike vick and start fighting dogs with rashad and gsp. you know their like the black guys on the team anyway
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