Exclusive Interview: Former UFC Champion Tim Sylvia Talks Brock Lesnar, Why Fans Dislike Him, and Leaving Zuffa
Tonight, two former UFC champions are in action at War on the Mainland, a PPV card emanating from the Bren Events Center in Irvine, California. The two are a study in contrasts. One, Jens Pulver, is a beloved elder statesman. The other, former heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia, has become one of the most despised figures in the game. I sat down with big Tim to see how he was doing and ask some important questions about his life and career.
Jonathan Snowden: What was it like at the Miletich gym when you guys were all champions and competing at the very highest levels?
Tim Sylvia: It was awesome. Surprisingly, that's what it's like in Indiana right now. Everybody's hungry. A lot of tough guys who all want their shot. Back in the day at MFS we were all hungry and pushing each other. Guys who weren't champions wanted to become champions. Before anyone had any money and we were just trying to make ends meet.
Jonathan Snowden: For a lot of the guys it was like an all-star camp. So many top fighters in certain weight classes. And you almost had that for a little bit when it looked for a time like Brock Lesnar was going to make Miletich his home. Did you get to work with Brock at all when he was there at the beginning of his career?
Tim Sylvia: I was coming off surgery so I never got a chance to train with him. But Brock and I became pretty good friends. We'd go out to Big Shot and shoot out there and go out to dinner and stuff. Brock and I are a lot alike when it comes to our personal lives.
Jonathan Snowden: Your career was like Brock's once you got to the UFC - it exploded so quickly. Your second fight in the UFC was for a title shot. Were you ready for all that came with being a UFC star back then?
Tim Sylvia: I wasn't ready for it, but it happened. When I won it the second time it was more meaningful, meant more to me. It was like 'I just got in the UFC and already I'm getting a title shot?' I was thinking I'd work my way up, fight a few guys first before I got a title shot. But I was hand picked. Ricco (Rodriguez) picked me because he thought he could beat me and retain his title. And the UFC thought he was going to be the next big thing. But we took the fight knowing that we had a good shot at beating this guy. And low and behold-it happened.
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Jonathan Snowden: So, you would have liked to have developed a little more as a fighter before you were thrown in there? Because you never really get a chance to develop skills if every opponent is an upper echelon guy.
Tim Sylvia: Definitely, I would have loved to see that happen. But it wasn't a bad thing. After that fight I've never worked a single day at a job ever again. You know? It set me up for the rest of my life and made training full time a lot easier.
Jonathan Snowden: It's always been love an hate with you and the fans. I remember around when you won the title, you would hang out a lot with the fans at shows, wearing that title belt. At some point things turned. Do you have a good idea about when the fan response started getting so negative?
Tim Sylvia: I think the turning point was really the Arlovski series. When I beat him and then beat him again it seemed like things turned. I'm not sure why it happened or where it came from, but it started with the Arlovski fights and I didn't understand it.
Jonathan Snowden: Does it matter to you how fans think about Tim Sylvia?
Tim Sylvia: Not really. I'm at the point where I'm cool with myself. I've got my family and friends and so on and so forth. I've always had the mentality, if you don't like me then fuck you. I don't like you either. It is what it is.
Jonathan Snowden: Fans are always curious about your decision to leave the UFC after the Nogueira fight. You and your agent Monte Cox thought that there were more opportunities outside of Zuffa than in it. Looking back, would you still make that call? Or would you be with Zuffa?
Tim Sylvia: I wouldn't change a thing. Everyone talks about Monte and that decision, thinking I would be better off in Zuffa. But what if I did beat Fedor? Everyone would have been saying 'Oh my God. Monte Cox is the greatest man alive. He's the smartest man in MMA.' But it didn't happen that night. I lost. But if we had won we probably would have gone down as the best fighter and management team ever. But it didn't happen. I'm happy, you know? There's definitely some advantages, fighting on a lot of shows and always being a free agent. I don't have to be a 'Yes sir, no sir' type of guy. I'm happy. I'm not saying I would never consider going back to the UFC again. We would definitely work a deal and it might be a nice place to finish up my career. But right now, I'm fine where I am.
Jonathan Snowden: And financially-no regrets?
Tim Sylvia: Absolutely. I think I did just fine.
Jonathan Snowden: In my mind there are a lot of great fights on this show. What should fans expect from Tim Sylvia when they put their money down to see you and Paul and the other great fighters?
Tim Sylvia: I think they're going to see a lot of fights that weren't able to happen on other shows. They've done a great job and got a lot of great UFC vets. I think Paul and I is going to be possibly one of the fights of the year. I'm hoping to stand and bang and I don't see a takedown happening in this fight.
War on the Mainland begins airs tonight at 10 PM ET on PPV.
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Did you happen to ask him how Arlovski pee pee taste?
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by Applejack McNeil on Aug 14, 2010 9:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
On the real tip, though, I would love for Sylvia to get motivated and get back down to 265. Dude wrecked Ricco when it mattered.
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by Applejack McNeil on Aug 14, 2010 9:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
He HAS had some good finishes, and he’s a dangerous opponent even today. But when he fought cautious, he was unwatchable and – while I have absolutely nothing against the guy – he comes across with all the personality of wet cardboard. If he’s not cookin’ fools, there’s not much reason to watch him.
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by AJB on Aug 14, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I absolutely agree.
When he had the belt, he was the stand-up equivalent of Jon Fitch.
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by Applejack McNeil on Aug 14, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tim Slyvia
The hired gun of MMA,will fight anywhere for a paycheck.
by TERRENCEFROMSOUTHEAST on Aug 14, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions
You make that sound derogatory, but that’s what MMA is – prize-fighting. Until you see amateur MMA athletes in the Olympics, they’re all in the same boat – fighting for a paycheck.
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100% correct here. Tim burned a bridge with the biggest MMA promotion in the USA...
…you can’t blame him for taking advantage of any opportunity to make money while he’s still relevant.
That said, I’d like to see him land in Strikeforce to bolster the HW division.
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Did he really burn the bridge? I think it’s mostly that Dana didn’t really want him and isn’t interested in him. Tim never really did anything that should tick off the UFC. He didn’t sign a contract because he had a great offer over at affliction and he got paid a gigantic whack of doe for doing it.
FWIW, I’ve always thought Tim seemed like a pretty good guy. He works hard and tries his hardest to win. He’s had some boring fights (his fight with Brandon Vera was unwatchable) but he’s also had some good ones, and who hasn’t had boring fights?
The animosity against him I’ve always found a little bit confusing.
agreed
DW was happy to see him go.
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by PapaBumpants on Aug 14, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Any bridge built by Dana White is self-burning. Sylvia and Cox absolutely made the right decision, and he got a gigantic payday from the Fedor fight, probably more than all his other fights combined.
You know that fight didn’t pay more than his Zuffa career.
Now he’s making 25/25.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 14, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
How many fights was he guaranteed in the UFC after his loss to Nog, Subo? Actual guaranteed fights, not imaginary ones.
by VirtualBalboa on Aug 14, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he asked out of a contract that they weren’t trying to negotiate, and it was fucking Nog in an interim title fight, so I think at least a couple at 100/100 a clip + endorsements. After that, who knows? If he’s cut from the UFC he’s headlining somewhere good, not fighting Polish lobsters for peanuts.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 14, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Leaving Zuffa is not what hurt his career.
Taking that retarded boxing match with Ray Mercer is what hurt his career. Monte seriously screwed the pooch setting that one up and allowing it to happen after all the sanctioning issues it had.
Its not even taking that fight...
its coming in tragically out of shape and getting KTFO. Sure, the fight should have been beneath him, but he made it that much worse by being destroyed by a guy who had no business in the ring with a former UFC champ.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
I don’t get the hate for Tim. I will say it bothers me that he seems to have never attempted to get in great shape. I don’t understand the hate though.
Root for the home team jack ass
by KING FEDOR on Aug 14, 2010 11:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
1) Dull fight against Assuerio Silva
2) Dull fight against Andrei
3) Dull fight against Monson
4) Lost to Couture
5) Dull fight against Vera
6) Destroyed by Fedor
7) KO’d by Mercer
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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 14, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
off topic
just got word that mma is now legal in ontario….. that was out of leftfield for sure
Really? Link?? I live in Ontario an have been following the whole MMA fiasco and havent heard anything that might give off the idea that its passed legislation…
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i think the hate stems from
his blatant unwillingness to try and get in top shape but who knows maybe that was the best shape he could be in back then? I also think the 2nd and 3rd arlovski fights left a sour taste for most ppl. The 2nd fight he was rocked n pulled a rabbit out of his ass to finish andrei and acted like he had dominated arlovski or something. And then of course the 5 rd borefest that was the 3rd fight.
i think tim had a lot of potential n he just never realized it. I mean 6’8 is something you cant teach and he was a somewhat decent athlete in his prime. Coulda, woulda, shoulda is the caption for tim’s career
The Monson fight doesn’t really endear him to fans either. Had nearly a foot of reach on The Snowman and he spent the whole fight backpedalling with jabs from what I can remember
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by StevenGiles on Aug 14, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
isn’t that the reason he gave for taking steroids, he had good cardio but wanted to get “shredded”?
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by donkeypunch on Aug 14, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
No, that was definitely Tim.
Said he was self-conscious because he didn’t have the ‘body of a champion’ or some such.
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by lowellthehammer on Aug 14, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, that was Tim
But after he supposedly stopped, he didn’t come in looking like a sack of fat as he has recently.
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Didnt he get paid like $500,000 for the minute and half loss to fedor?
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by II SMASH II on Aug 14, 2010 11:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
And Timmeh has been good with his
earning from what his friends say.
aNance, you there? Can you verify? Has Tim been smart with his dough, or did he go Baller?
Life is hard....get a fucking helmet.
Im around. I try not to read all the comments in stories based on Tim. I’m not at liberty to say much here except Tim is a smart guy when it comes to money.
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by ANance on Aug 14, 2010 3:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good to hear. He’s made a lot of money; it’d be a shame for him to have lost it all.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 14, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a big Sylvia fan
can’t wait to see him beat Buentello tonight!
Sucks that he was taken out of UFC Undisputed 2010 while Arlovski is still in.
I thought that was pretty shitty.
Maybe they couldn’t/wouldn’t get Tim to come in and do the body scan to create the fighter? Seems like the UFC and Arlovski (as well as Werdum) are still on good terms with one another.
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by lowellthehammer on Aug 14, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Interview
Ive always wondered why people hate on Tim i came in to this stuff after he lost to Fedor always been wondering why SF hasn’t picked him up at best it would at least pad there roster
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Sad to see that Tim is still in denial the fact is that he still trying to spin him leaving the UFC being a debacle shows just that. He basically went from being a mainstay in the UFC HW division and top contender to a fat slob joke getting knocked out by Ray Mercer in a couple of seconds. That was about the dumbest decision any fighter could make and a perfect example of why guys should think long and hard about who is managing them.
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cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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Comment for Snowden...
Jonathan,
These types of articles are golden and the insight and candor in your questions is much appreciated by this MMA fan.
Please stick to this sort of fare and leave the more shock journalism to other sites and less talented writers.
Thanks.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
by Razreshat on Aug 14, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
id love to see timmy back in the ufc
sure hes old and fat now but him vs todd duffee or branden schaub i think would make it totally worth it
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Great interview and great win for the big man last night
There were rumors floating around that Buentello had been told the UFC would bring him back if he won this fight. Hopefully, this will open some eyes at Zuffa HQ and put Big Tim back on their radar. He now has three straight wins and his only bad loss came in an unsanctioned ‘cage boxing’ fight.
I would love to see Big Tim back in the UFC provided that he proves he can still make 265. I think he would be a solid gatekeeper type for the next generation of heavyweights.

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