Matt Hughes Remains Surprisingly Relevant Following UFC 117 Victory
by Leland Roling on Aug 13, 2010 7:00 PM EDT
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Matt Hughes is easily one of the most recognizable and dominant champions in the sport of mixed martial arts. At age 36, he's racked up an impressive 45 wins in 52 career contests, and he's successfully defended the UFC welterweight title 11 times. Hughes was inducted into the UFC's Hall of Fame at the 2010 UFC Fan Expo due to his long-time service in the world's top mixed martial arts promotion and his laundry list of accomplishments. Unlike most Hall of Famers, however, Hughes isn't ready to slow down and get off the saddle just yet.
Hughes made the case at UFC 117 that he may still have what it takes to compete in the upper echelon of the UFC's 170-pound division. Battling New Jersey's Ricardo Almeida, a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt who entered the contest riding a three-fight winning streak, Hughes overpowered Almeida in the clinch, sank in what many would consider to be a very underutilized choke known in the wrestling community as the "Dave Schultz front headlock choke," and subdued Almeida in mere seconds. It was an impressive performance to say the least, and it proves that Hughes still has a place in choppy waters of the UFC's welterweight division.
Fighters like Rashad Evans call his style "antiquated," and writers like myself believed he was experiencing the inevitable slowdown that age produces. Hughes has acknowledged in the past that he has thought about his physical condition and style in these late years, but Saturday night's performance against Ricardo Almeida certainly didn't prove a continued downward spiral into retirement. On the contrary, Hughes was in better physical condition, fleet-footed enough to evade Almeida's boxing, and slick enough to catch Almeida in a choke that he didn't see coming for even a split second. To top it all off, Hughes powerfully showed that he still had the brute strength to completely incapacitate a grown man in seconds, an attribute that has been connected to him for his entire career.
The performance brings new questions into the discussion of where the UFC welterweight division goes from here. Jon Fitch has obviously solidified himself as the #1 contender following his victory over Thiago Alves, but his next fight really depends on whether his teammate, Josh Koscheck, can defeat Georges St. Pierre in December. Dan Hardy battles Carlos Condit on October 16th, and Martin Kampmann meets UFC newcomer Jake Shields on October 23rd, leaving only a few opponents for Hughes to fight. Dennis Hallman would be the easy choice as the UFC could build it as Hughes wanting to avenge his losses, but that seems rather ridiculous at this point.
The better choice, in my mind, is Mike Swick. Not only has American Kickboxing Academy had a beef with Hughes in the past over potentially ducking the trio of Koscheck, Fitch, and Swick for easier fights, but it's actually a fight that's somewhat compelling. Hughes moves on from dominating Renzo Gracie and his students to demolishing one of AKA's premier fighters? Perhaps.
It's certainly a fight that could get some fair interest from casual fans as well. After all, Hughes, along with a successful fighting career, has had some success in the realm of self-marketing as well. Everybody seemed to love him as much as bandwagon fans loved the Dallas Cowboys in the 90's only five years ago, but much of that changed after his UFC 65 loss to Georges St. Pierre. His coaching stint on The Ultimate Fighter season 6 certainly made him out to be a villain, and he slowly became a man that many fans loved to hate. Fortunately for Hughes, being loved and hated produces interest and bigger paychecks.
I won't say that I'm a huge Matt Hughes fan because I'm not. He comes off as cocky and arrogant most of the time, and I would probably believe it if someone told me Rick "The Model" Martel followed him around spraying "Arrogance" wherever Hughes went. His personality rubs me the wrong way, but that won't take away from the fact that Matt Hughes is a legend of this sport who deserves praise. He's also the epitome of middle America, and I can't hate on the "God fearin' hard workin' combine driver".
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Agreed.
Also, is Hughes/Hallman 3 that crazy? Hallman is coming off a win and is 8-2 in his last 10.
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by Applejack McNeil on Aug 13, 2010 7:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
IMO
that’s the fight Hughes should be asking for, those 2 losses are really the only outstanding blemish from the prime of his career, aside from the KO loss to Pele.
Also, Hallman subbed Hughes in less than 20 seconds both times, and hopefully Matt has improved his grappling enough that there wouldn’t be a repeat. Unless Hallman really is Hughes’ kryptonite, which could be why he isn’t campaigning for the fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 13, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention, Hallman basically had a UD secured against J. Howard when he got KO’d with just seconds left. For all intents and purposes, coming into the UFC and nearly beating Howard and then beating Saunders is actually pretty impressive.
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by mburtoni on Aug 13, 2010 9:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought Swick was going back to 185.
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by Dr. Octagon on Aug 13, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes it seems probable. I really hope he does, his medical situation sounds terrible and I hope he gets back to 100% and moves back up to MW
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Speaking of medical problems what Rumble sidelined?
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by Barack Lesnar on Aug 13, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully
He looked great at 185, and now it’s come out is the only reason he was at 170 was his diet wasn’t in order. Back to 185, Swick!
I thought he was at 70 because Okami man handled him.
by sadface on Aug 14, 2010 1:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what I remember him saying at the time too.
That he felt he just couldn’t handle the larger and stronger MWs after Okami beat him.
Swick Vs Hughes would be sweet
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Totally agree, I completely dislike the way Country Breakfast acts, but you can’t deny he’s one of the biggest legends to ever compete in the sport.
I can’t lie either, I was on my feet when he tapped Big dog
by Portland Raider fan on Aug 13, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t think it was that the choke caught Almeida by surprise at all, I think he was rocked by the hook and didn’t have a chance to recover before it was too late.
Also, I still don’t understand why everyone says that Hughes “subbed” Almeida. Almeida never tapped, so it wasn’t a submission, he lost by KO due to the choke.
What? If a fighter goes out from a choke, it’s a technical submission, which is still a submission, not a KO. You got that wrong friend..
by Horselover Fat on Aug 13, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand how Sherdog et al record the bout, but I don’t necessarily agree with them. If someone like War Machine/Phil Baroni is too stubborn to submit or someone like Almeida is too rocked to actually submit, it’s not a submission, it’s a KO or TKO. For it to be a submission, you have to literally submit, at least in my mind, as that’s the definition of the word. You can submit from a submission hold, strikes from the mount, from being exhausted, being smothered or an injury, but the only way a loss should be considered a loss via submission is when you actually submit.
I guess I think I just interpret things a little more literally than others do.
"I guess I think I just interpret things a little more literally than others do."
Semantics.
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I understand where you’re coming from, but that’s just not how it works. It would be terribly confusing if they started calling it KO’s, and besides if we’re going to take the literal route you’re in no way being “knocked out” when you go out from a choke, so that wouldn’t work either. And what would you call a technical submission to an armbar? If the ref stops the fight due to bones breaking, you’re neither “knocked” nor “out”.
Technical submission is just fine by me, I don’t think you’re going to see any change to that any time soon, might as well try to accept the current wording. We all know what it means anyway.
by Horselover Fat on Aug 14, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s no “knock”, or “no knock”, check your Gil Scott-Heron:)
by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 13, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
How similar is the Schultz choke to Jeff Moson’s north south choke against Branden Lee Hinkle?
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Or for that matter
Randy Couture’s “Gator Roll”/Anaconda vs. Mike Van Arsdale
The Monson north south doesn’t have an arm in. The Anaconda choke, like Babalu nailed on David Heath, is essentialy the same choke Hughes laced up on Almedia except it uses the gator roll to tighten it up.
Don’t remember Randy having an arm in on Van Arsdale. That’s the big difference between a Shultz/Hughes choke and just a regular Monson/north south choke.
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by Barack Lesnar on Aug 13, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
the difference is really the grip, i did judo chops on both
Hughes was using the “Dave Schulz” front headlock .
and
Babalu was using a D’arce choke which involves a fgure four grip with the arms
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by Kid Nate on Aug 13, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
My guess
The general principle of how the chokes work are the same, but the positioning makes it different. For one thing, the north-south choke has one fighter facing up and the other down, while the Schultz choke has both facing down and is done from standing. Might not sound like huge changes, but these chokes seem world’s apart if you’ve ever heard people complain about someone calling a kimura an americana or vice versa.
I’d love to see that FanPoster that Nate borrowed the gifs from for his Judo Chop break this down for us.
by mma_critic on Aug 13, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Hughes vs the winner of Sanchez vs Thiago? Seems like an interesting fight against a pretty relevant opponent
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only took the BE staff a week to follow up on Hughes’ big win.
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by SSreporters on Aug 13, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
New headline:
Did Chael Sonnen Distract from Matt Hughes’ Surprising Relevance?
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by bobthewriter on Aug 13, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hughes really impressed me with that victory over Almeida, I had him counted out a little too early due to struggling against Serra and looking pretty bad in winning over Renzo. Swick would be a cool fight, would be pulling for Hughes in that one.. I’d also be OK with Hallman, seeing as how Hughes is not really trying to be a contender for the title anymore I say pretty much give him the fights he wants before he retires (which I hope won’t take all too long).
Hughes won and defended the title 9 times, not 11 (if you want to count it like that). The Riggs and Gracie fights weren’t title fights.
Also, Almedia wasn’t as great as everyone thought he was, which is why Hughes is now being blown up into something he’s not. Almedia is still the same guy who couldn’t do anything against Patrick Cote, and had to go life and death on the ground with Kendall Grove. Is it really shocking that Matt Hughes ran all over him?
At the end of the day, Matt Hughes needs to beat up Dennis Hallman once and for all, then retire. There’s no reason to throw him in there with a contender – he’s never going to contend for a title again, so what’s the point? Let him get his revenge against Hallman, then go out on top with four solid wins. There’s no point in putting him in with a contender and risking him getting beat up and embarrassed. And if he wins, then what? You lost a contender to a guy who’s never, ever going to fight GSP again. Just let him put a hurtin on Hallman and call it a career.
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by Brian Mayes on Aug 13, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I’ve never thought Almeda was that great, but Hughes isn’t nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be, either. The only people he’s lost to in the last 5 years are Thiago Alves, BJ Penn and GSP. How that means he’s a shit fighter I don’t know, but, you know, the internet.
It’s funny that Matt Hughes who is 2 years older than Anderson Silva is considered over the hill, but Anderson Silva is considered a cross between Superman, Fedor and Jesus by the same fans.
I don’t think Hughes could beat GSP, but the guy is still a legitimate top 10 contender. This “Hughes needs to retire!” talk is silly.
Don’t get me wrong – I still think Hughes is a quality fighter. But he’s not horribly interested in fighting anymore, he doesn’t take training too seriously, and he’s never ever going to challenge for a title again. It’s better to send him out with a win over a guy he has a history with than to chance having him look bad against a contender, just to see if he still “has it”. For crying out loud, he only wants to fight once or twice a year. You don’t beat Top Ten opposition at his age, with his interest in training doing that. You get hurt and embarrased when you try that.
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I agree that you might have a point with him not being all that interested in fighting anymore, but he also seems to have sparked some interest after this win and has mentioned possibly another title run.
As far as fighting once or twice a year…while nobody really comes out and says it, there’s lots of guys who only fight that often. Couture hasn’t fought more than twice in a year since 2001.
I say Hughes vs. Fitch
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by Austin Martin on Aug 13, 2010 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
agreed
Fitch is not marketable to the common mma fan, he’s boring, Hughes would force him to stand and if Fitch finishes, then you get your coveted title shot. Koschek aint beating GSP.
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by Romoesbueno on Aug 13, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What if Hughes wins?
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I knew someone would make that point, because the UFC won’t put Hughes in against GSP. I didn’t think it that far ahead. But in terms of matchups, this is gold. I’ve been pretty impressed with hughes’ stand up lately, he knocked down almeida standing, renzo is no accomplishment, but he held his own with serra, who is short but effective.
Wrestling wise, I think their wrestling may cancel out, but it may be even enough that we’d see a full blown wrestling match with both going for the TD. I’d give Hughes the strength advantage, and that amounts for a lot between two highly skilled wrestlers. Fitch probably has the JJ advantage.
I think Hughes could take it, and he could solve the Fitch “problem” for the UFC.
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by Austin Martin on Aug 13, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If Hughes can beat Fitch, I will eat my own ass. Fitch is better than Hughes at everything. He’s like Hughes 1.5.
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but what if though?
i’d at least like to see it. Hughes seems like an intolerable prick, but he’s a legend and pretty much invented the blueprint for Fitch’s career
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by Austin Martin on Aug 13, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Zuffa loves Matt Hughes. He’s their favorite fighter, next to Chuck Liddell. At this point in his career, they aren’t going to put him in a fight that they don’t think he has an excellent chance of winning. Jon Fitch doesn’t enter into that equation, obviously.
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Talking about on a personal level. If Hughes and Liddell never fought again, Zuffa would still love those guys to death. They love Brock because of what he does for their pocket book and that’s it. I don’t know if they have that same buddy buddy relationship as they do with Liddell and Hughes. Those guys are Zuffa lifers.
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That fight would be a 15 minute kicboxing match, with Hughes on the losing end. If it hit the mat, I seriously doubt Hughes would tap Fitch. Fitch has a damn good reputation for being basically untappable. Hughes would have to put him to sleep with a choke to win that fight.
This is a pointless argument though, because Zuffa never does that fight in a million years. Neither Zuffa or Hughes are horribly interested in the matchup, so that’s it. Hughes is either going to fight Dennis Hallman or some fringe contender, or he’ll go out in a blaze of glory in some sort of catchweight superfight that he has positively no chance of winning.
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by thetakeover on Aug 14, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
haha
Matt recognized as the “Gracie killer” hahahah if you put Royce Gracie and Matt Hughes in a cage and switch their ages from when they fought. Matt would have been DOMINATED.
I don’t dislike Matt as a fighter but he can’t win against the top Welterweights right now, he would get beat by Fitch, Alves, GSP, Koscheck.
But I would love to see Hughes and Kampmann
So prime Gracie would beat over the hill Hughes? Well duh.
by ufc4 on Aug 13, 2010 9:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No.
Put whatever Royce Gracie you think is best…UFC 1 Royce, Sakuraba Royce….take your pick. Matt Hughes of today would destroy that guy. Royce was always completely one dimensional in his game, it only ever worked against guys who were equally one dimensional. Matt Hughes is is competent on his feet, great at takedowns and good at submissions. Royce is great at submissions and terrible at everything else, and always has been.
by Jason H. on Aug 13, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
We would be talking about Matt Hughes 3 years from now as he’s 36 and Gracie was 39 at the time of their fight. I’m not saying Gracie was the greatest but he was in fact old as fuck at the time of their fight.
by ufc4 on Aug 13, 2010 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If they both fight each other in their absolute primes (which is the only way to really compare the two, in a just world), Matt runs over him every single time. Hell, washed up Matt probably runs over a prime Royce, to be honest. And that’s coming from Royce’s biggest fan. I picked him to beat Matt back at UFC 60, I’m embarrased to say.
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by Brian Mayes on Aug 13, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, obviously, nobody is disputing that fact. All I’m saying is Hughes was in his prime and Royce was older than dirt so he really had no shot and if the roles were reversed (39 year old Hughes, prime Gracie) then the results woulda been different.
No, they wouldn’t have been. Matt Hughes still would have beat up Royce Gracie, because he is the far, far better technician. His skills are on a totally different level than Royce. Doesn’t matter if a 40 year old Hughes fought a 20 year old Royce, Royce would still lose because Hughes is just better at everything that Royce does.
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by Brian Mayes on Aug 14, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree
I think if their roles were to be reversed, Royce’s career wouldn’t last the number the Hughes had at the time.
Gracie in his prime
Would get beaten damn near to death by most middle tier guys in his weight class today. His dominance came in the infancy of the sport. He’d have no chance against this slew of NCAA champions who have been training MMA the whole time. None.
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hughes didnt really avoid almeida's striking
so much as it took a while for almeida to find his range. hughes was starting to get hit.
Impressive victory for Hughes
Idk what the UFC will do with him, I can’t tell if Hughes wants to be a contender or what
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by II SMASH II on Aug 13, 2010 8:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hughes vs Swick is very winnable for Hughes.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Swick get choked unconscious again. He’s clearly the weakest of the AKA trio. Hughes vs Fitch or Kos would not be competitive, IMO. But Swick? No worries. I think he has a good shot at winning.
matt hughes vs rory macdonald
cant imagine that fight not being amazing
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So Rory MacDonald
Goes from Mike Guymon to Carlos Condit to Matt Hughes?
I like MacDonald but that’s just not a good idea.
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progression wise its probably not a good idea
but it’d be fun as hell to watch
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Well you can do whatever you want to Matt Hughe
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by troy145 on Aug 13, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Germans?
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by BigDNotDallas on Aug 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree with the article, but...
Hughes moves on from dominating Renzo Gracie
When did this happen? I saw Hughes losing a fight to Renzo, not long ago, before he ran out of gas and got beaten up. You could say he dominated teh 3rd round, but that is it.
For real? Renzo probably lost the second as well. The first was the closest round, I suppose, but Renzo got absolutely owned in the third, a product of not being able to check leg kicks over the course of the fight.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 13, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Renzo looked awful
And Hughes looked awful by not finishing him.
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by thetakeover on Aug 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw Renzo easily winning the first, probably taking the 2nd but could have gone either way, then falling apart in the 3rd. All credit to Hughes for winning the fight, but as much as I love Renzo, the guy is aging and has been greatly inactive and probably should be at 155.
It was a win for Hughes, but I would in no way call it dominating.
I want Hughes/Hallman 3, but if not then put him in against Alves again and let him avenge that loss. The fact is Hughes is still a top WW he may not be the best ever again but I give him a shot to beat anyone not named GSP at 170 he’s still got it.
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Why do you people want to see Matt Hughes get beat up? There is no way on earth he wouldn’t get mauled by Thiago Alves again. Just because Alves looked mediocore against the two best welterweights in the game and Hughes looked good taking out a middle of the road guy, doesn’t mean that rematch goes any different that the first fight. Hughes still struggles to get takedowns, and ends up getting punted on the feet at some point. Zuffa isn’t going to do that to Matt Hughes again – frankly, they’re probably still upset they did it in the first place.
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Alves can meet Swick...
at 185 where they both belong.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Hughes/Hallman
I wouldn’t be so dismissive. Both got big wins and avenging two career losses is no joke.
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Unfortunately, the question is not so much what Zuffa will do with Hughes but what he himself is still up to. He has already made it clear that he won’t fight the young elite like Koschek when they were calling him out like crazy. I doubt that has changed. When Hughes talks title-shot, he probably has some “coasting to a title-shot like Randy Cotoure at 205 who says he might get one after beating James Toney” in mind. My guess for his next matchup: Matt Serra rematch. Yup, that “boring”.
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I always think of Jason Stackhouse as a dramatization of young Matt Hughes.
“His personality rubs me the wrong way, but that won’t take away from the fact that Matt Hughes is a legend of this sport who deserves praise.”
His autobiography is an amazing read, because it doesn’t at all try to paint the picture of him as a nice guy. It is written in first person and everything he says and does throughout the book makes him look like a unbearable, giant (but hardworking) asshole. Maybe he want people to think that about him or perhaps his ghostwriter didn’t like him.
Another poorly written, pointless article rife with Leland's wanton, carless fact checking. Who the hell is your editor?
Do you read your articles before you publish them? How can you possibly take overly committed, strong stands on all kinds of contentious issues? Are you not aware of your propensity to do just that?
Here are just a few examples to illustrate my contention:
In your opening stanza, you state as fact that Matt Hughes defended his title 11 times. How can this be? He fought in 12 fights and lost twice to GSP, and once to BJ Penn: that leaves 9 titles won. If you go through his record, he has defended his title 5 times as champion.
In your second paragraph, you state that Hughes overpowered Almeida in the clinch, which is not what happened, and said he subdued him in “mere seconds”. Last I checked that fight was ended when Hughes landed a strike (not from the clinch) and then secured a front headlock (not from the clinch) after following him to the ground, and finished his choke at 3 min 15 sec (which is not mere seconds). If you want to argue that the choke was remarquably quick to inflict loss of consciousness, then you should be talking about the choke subduing Almeida in mere seconds, and not his opponent.
There are careless errors everywhere in your articles. You tend to overstate your points with strong verbeage where none is needed (Hughes powerfully showed that he still had brute strength for example) and you end weak,obvious, and often pointless conclusions.
Thousands of poeple are reading your crap. Your articles read like someone who’s drinking and writing. Don’t you have enough pride to edit your work? Or if you can’t clean it up yourself, have someone else critique it before publish it, exposing thousands of readers to your glaring weaknesses.
If you go through his record, he has defended his title 5 times as champion.
Hughes defended his title 7 times. Five times in his first reign, and twice in his second, in rematches with Trigg and Penn. Dude, like, who is your editor, man?
Damn dude you’re a dick. Dick.
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by Barack Lesnar on Aug 14, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Thousands of poeple are reading your crap.
And yet you’re the only one complaining, and acting like a total asshole while doing it. Guess all the rest of us are idiots huh?
by Horselover Fat on Aug 14, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Speak for yourself. I’m not accusing anyone of being an idiot. But call a spade a spade. Leland can write good, informative articles. If you enjoy reading the articles he publishes in haste, despite it’s shortcomings, good for you. There were a few other complaining responses as well.
Alright, whatever. I thought it was a pretty standard piece stating the obvious and opening up for discussion in the comments section, nothing revolutionizing or anything, but I didn’t find it to be all that sub-par or particularly bad either. While you did present some valid criticism, I think you could have done it in a less hostile and insulting manner.
by Horselover Fat on Aug 14, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
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