Fedor Emelianenko Hints at Four to Six Fight Contract Extension With Strikeforce
by Nick Thomas on Aug 12, 2010 9:49 AM EDT
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Fedor - "For now M-1 Global works with Strikeforce and we are concentrating on that, the contract is not over yet. So for now we don’t have any interest in the UFC."M-1 Global director of operations Evgeni Kogan adds:
"So far I feel very comfortable fighting, very good with my fighting, and I’m planning of fighting as long as I can physically. As far and I’m concerned we should discuss the possibility of signing another contract for 4-6 fights."
"Now we are in talks to extend the contract for Fedor and at the same time to settle on who, when and where he is fighting next. These talks are going smoothly and we are hopeful of a full resolution very shortly."Scott Coker on Fedor's next fight:
"We're still having ongoing dialogue with M-1. That should flesh out here pretty soon and once we come to a deal with them on when (Fedor will) fight, who he'll fight, and with Fabricio out, I think the rest of the division will kind of unfold itself before the end of the year. I don't think [Fedor Emelianenko vs. Alistair Overeem] will happen this year."HT: m-1global.com
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There are 4-6 other legitimate heavyweights in Strikeforce?
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 12, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Overeem, Werdum, Silva, Kharitonov (sort of), Barnett (possibly). Other than Overeem, none of those matches set me on fire.
...like young thieves in a glowing orchard, loosely jacketed against the cold and ten thousand worlds for the choosing.
- C. McCarthy
More likely...
Big Foot Silva, Werdum, Overeem, Lashley, Bautista
by truck on Aug 12, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait
Did Strikeforce release Greg Nagy (Nudge)? Or is he in the M-1 stable now?
"Wait why didn't I kill that motherfvker"
by Ze Pequeno on Aug 12, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree
If the Overeem fight doesn’t happen next for Fedor, and it almost certainly will not, it never happens – they will fight any SF HW, aside from him.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Aug 12, 2010 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
That’s the most likely one, or one of the SF “nobody” HWs.
They have zero interest in fighting Overeem.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The M-1 people have mentioned Big Foot a handful of times,
I would put money on that fight happening.
m1 bitch about overeem and his roids
when barnet and bigfoot actually tested positive to them, hipocrites
Barnett is not a possibility
People who want to see that fight still are deluding themselves, and anyone who thinks there’s a promotion in North America that would sign a three time loser like Barnett is an idiot.
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The fights would more or less have to be Overeem, Werdum, Silva, Barnett, Mo and Arlovski.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 12, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
There is no way Fedor ever fights Overeem IMO
Most likely scenario, Fedor fights one of the SF nobodies, then “retires” from the US market and rematches Werdum in DREAM.
This “new contract” talk is a smokescreen.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Aug 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if you list all the credible guys from HW down to MW,
you’d reach that number. :P
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on man, this is strikeforce…’don’t forget the rematch!
The way I see it, werdum again, Bigfoot, maybe Rogers again, this this time crush him fast, and if we’re lucky, king mo, but I suspect that fedors handlers will want no part of lawal, just as they want no part of reem.
by kanodogg on Aug 12, 2010 10:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They won’t ever fight Overeem or Lawal, that’s for sure.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Aug 12, 2010 11:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fedor hates me personally
There is no other explanation.
So do Pacquiao and Mayweather.
by Clifford J on Aug 12, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It doesn't sound like Fedor hinted at any preference as to where he signs.
He said:
1) He isn’t talking to the UFC until his contract is up.
2) He will probably fight 4 – 6 more times.
The words “another” and “extend” worry me. The word “where” is uplifting.
I want Kim Winslow or Tan Dan to ref Tito Ortiz' next loss.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 12, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I like how he said"So for now we don’t have any interest in the UFC"
thats good because I don’t remember Dana White saying he was interested in Fedor after his lose.
yeah Fedor no one cares anymore, stay with SF if you want.
"How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies" - Omar Little
by The Omaplatapus on Aug 12, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
brocks #1 anyway
at this point i get way more excited to see brock fight then i do to see fedor fight
it’ll be funny to see what happens if somehow SF folded dana would just kinda laugh at fedor i think at this point he has no desire to sign him anyway
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
I am sorry but a guy with a 5-1 record can never be the best guy.
What happened when he lost to Carwin? 4-2 Shane was way better but made a mistake. Brock was lucky on this one and he knows it.
Velasquez will take him, so will Alistair when they meet.
I dont like Dana White, but if Fedor does not want to fight Alistair, i hope he will go to the UFC to show Brock does not stand a chance against him. I am 100% sure he will beat him in the first round with an Uberknee!
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
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"How do you shoot the devil in the back? What if you miss?"
by DamnSevern on Aug 12, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
me too
everyone hates on it but Watchmen was actually a pretty well made and entertaining movie. Aside from the owl guy looking like a cheapass batman ripoff.
by ShoNuffthaMasta on Aug 12, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
"In this fight, Anderson showed he was human," Nogueira said. "He showed he could be weak. But he showed he is a fighter and he brings something from his heart. It was beautiful."
by Broke Lesnar on Aug 13, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Not happy
If he doesn’t care about fighting the best, why should I care about his career?
And I’m a HUGE Fedor fan.
I think he cares
But the price the UFC wants is not what he is willing to give up. Dana’s antics regarding him can’t help either.
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." -Will Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
by PapaBumpants on Aug 12, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Compared to M-1's antics?
Co-production? Bringing in their own stable of fighters for cards as well? Who knows what other nonsense.
I’m sure Dana had some crazy bargaining demands, but at the end of the day, he seems to be able to work even his most ardent needled targets; Tito, Randy, Kimbo, Nelson, PRIDE. He works to get it done one way or the other, and they usually come around because the best are mainly in the UFC and he has huge money incentives for the top-tier talent. This is all repeated stuff, and there are some who aren’t going to budge from the company line on either side.
Three months ago I was with you; now it just seems that he wants a cushy retirement tour, and that’s not the Fedor I had envisioned and admired.
I don't hold out Fedor as some kind of saint
But I do root for him to get what he (and M-1 want). Every time I cringe at some of Dana White’s moves:
cutting AKA fighters when they didn’t immediately accept giving away their image rights forever;
cutting fighters (like Thales Leites) because they made current UFC fighters look bad;
banning members of the press who don’t write what he wants them to;
when fighters are on the last fight of their contract, jerking them around if they don’t sign an extension (like Arlovski)
I wonder how will anyone put an end to some of these shenanigans? I don’t think DW will stop out of the kindness of his heart. It will take someone with some leverage against him to force him to change. Not that Fedor would fix all the problems, but he could help in some way, even if he is doing it simply out of greed.
And by the way, I don’t fault DW either for doing these things. He is protecting his company. He isn’t supposed to negotiate against himself. But at the moment, the people he is negotiating against have zero leverage.
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." -Will Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
by PapaBumpants on Aug 12, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
You forgot
How you have to go get a half ass x-ray in Tijuana because of a lack of health insurance.
Root for the home team jack ass
by KING FEDOR on Aug 12, 2010 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m sure strikeforce provides health insurance for all their fighters.
by Phildo on Aug 12, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you comparing strikeforce to UFC. I’m no sure strikeforce could afford it but I’m sure zuffa could. Could you imagine a NFL player having to do that.
Root for the home team jack ass
by KING FEDOR on Aug 12, 2010 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They are?
That’s why the Dallas Cowboys and the Washington Redskins are valued at somewhere around a billion dollars because of their enormous payroll that they can’t cover. They are getting their share of a huge pie.
Root for the home team jack ass
by KING FEDOR on Aug 12, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also
Isn’t it in the best interest of a sports buisness to keep their product healthy?
Root for the home team jack ass
by KING FEDOR on Aug 12, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That is the dumbest statement I've ever read.
Well no it isn’t, but it’s close.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
That’s the apt comparison here.
It doesn’t make sense to say, “UFC doesn’t have health insurance, I’m going to fight in SF, who cares if they don’t’ have health insurance, they’re a minor league.”
UFC and SF shouldn’t be held to the same standards, but using the health insurance as some sort of justification for Fedor not going there is just moronic.
I never said that Fedor shouldn’t go to the UFC. The above poster had listed some things DW has done in the past. I added the health insurance deal. To me for a sports buisness to not provide health care to an athelete that is under contract to is bad buisness both from a money and ethical standpoint. I would love to see UFC provide it as well as Strikeforce. One thing I do know is Zuffa is finacially in a position to do that. I don’t know that Strikeforce is.
Root for the home team jack ass
by KING FEDOR on Aug 12, 2010 8:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know I'm late to the part but......
While I think that DW goes overboard a lot its hard to argue about most of it in retrospect. Look at your list, the AKA fighters were the only ones in the whole game that didn’t want to sign and even after they did I don’t think their lives were that altered. Thales Leites got cut because in a championship fight he chose to lay down and hope that the champ would lay on top of him. Come on man! And while I’m an Arlovski fan you have to admit that he was asking for way to much money then he was actually worth considering his career post UFC. I have nothing for the press banning thing because that is bullshit and a power move but at the same time all the other major sports do that as well (NFL, MLB, NBA) so it’s really hard to argue that either. Love him or hate him DW does what he thinks is best for the organization and a lot of the times he ends up being right.
Opinions were like kittens I was giving them away.
-Isaac Brock
by Mikey the Pikey on Aug 12, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't blame DW for his actions
But I don’t like them anyway. He has different goals than MMA fans and than MMA fighters. So I understand his actions. But that doesn’t make it right. The way to make it right is by having some semblance of real bargaining.
The AKA fighters were given a choice: sign away their image rights or get cut. They already had a contract with the UFC, were completely intending to honor it. But since the UFC can cut fighters at any time, they can always add more demands to the deal. And DW has every right to do it, but that doesn’t make it fair.
Arlovski only wanted to finish out his contract. He didn’t want an extension, which is basically how most UFC fighters are handled. Most sign an extension before their final fight so they don’t become free agents and gain leverage. But AA wanted to box on the side, which DW wouldn’t allow. So he wanted to test the waters. Rather than let him be a free agent, DW kept him on the shelf for a year, until he basically had to give him a fight or let him go. Then he set him up against a LnP fighter (Jake O’Brien) which is fine. But he put them on the undercard, where if AA wins big, he could avoid showing it. But if AA loses or has a boring fight, DW would have shown it so that AA looks bad as a free agent. This is Andrei Arlovski! One of the most popular fighters. The former HW champ who basically had one boring fight (AA vs Sylvia 3). Once again, DW had the right to do it, but it isn’t in the fans best interests.
Sorry for the rant.
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." -Will Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
by PapaBumpants on Aug 12, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with AA
AA had intended to resign with the UFC but was asking for a significant raise that they didn’t see fit to give him considering the new depth that they had at HW. Which had been pretty thin when AA ruled the division. And he had another boring fight with Werdum as well. I was as disappointed as anyone else that we didn’t get to see AA fight O’brian and I also thought it was a set up fight to try and build up O’Brian by letting him fight and hopefully beat a former champ. I completely agree with you as far as some of DW tactics are harsh and anti fighter.
Cheers for the rant, I love rants!
Opinions were like kittens I was giving them away.
-Isaac Brock
by Mikey the Pikey on Aug 12, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brock Beats JDS and Cain
…then a fight against Fedor becomes Dana’s best option. It would be a huge fight, especially if Fedor gets the opportunity to avenge his Werdum loss in the interim. Brock will face both Cain and JDS in the next 8 months, barring injury. If he wins both, then what? Rematches? Brock v Fedor will be the best opportunity for everyone involved.
we're gonna look back on his career post pride as a ton of wasted oppurtunity
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
As quoted from Prince in the Prince Skit on Chappelle Show:
“This bores me. Anyone up for a game of basketball?”
WANTED
Large, muscular, intimidating-looking fighter with limited skills to take on fading champion looking to build toward one last big-money fight. Must have little-to-no wrestling ability and low-level submissions.
I think these two people fit that category
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 12, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
(yeah yeah, I know. Bobby has decent/good wrestling…)
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 12, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Not so sure I’d agree with that at this point. Wrestling backgbround and MMA wrestling are too very different things. Just ask Mark Munoz.
Regarless of competition...
Picking someone up and slamming them to the mat
is more impressive than
Diving to your knees and holding on to your opponents ankle while getting punched in the head.
You can not say ‘regardless of competition’ when it comes to takedowns. The skill level of the competition is just too important.
Bullshit.
Kendall Grove is light years better than the guys Lashley has been facing.
Munoz dominated when facing lesser lesser competition. Lashley struggled to take down & control Jason Guida.
Advantage Munoz.
I don't see why this is even a debate.
Cause Okami stuffed his takedowns, and Lashley eventually succeeded on taking down Jason Guida? LOLZ.
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 13, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see Strikeforce strong-arm M-1
the same way M-1 has been doing to Coker.
Vadim should have lost a lot of leverage when Fedor was beaten. I say “should have” instead of “did” because… well, because we’re talking about leverage with Strikeforce, and they mess up lots of things.
This really is the chance for a promoter to look at Vadim/Fedor/M-1 and say, “Fight and get paid, or go ahead and retire.” No more of this renegotiating deals in the middle or delaying fights to get more leverage.
I’d love to see Fedor keep fighting, but I lost interest in paying attention to anything Fedor-related until a fight is signed because of crap like this.
by mma_critic on Aug 12, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
Can we finally all agree that protecting his (increasingly tarnished) legacy is far more important to Fedor & M-1 than actually allowing him to fight the best available opponents?
by Velcro on Aug 12, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t think [Fedor Emelianenko vs. Alistair Overeem] will happen this year.
Coker angled for it and lost again. :S Sorry to break it to you Coker, that fight will never happen.
So this is how fedor is going to end his career? in a second rate promotion? Its like Jordan saying im intend on finishing my career with the ABA lol.. What a joke
To make matters worse,
He won’t even face the minor league’s champion.
I get so pissed about this, but I guess its really more sad at this point.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Aug 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like it or not
Fedor is becoming irrelevant. It’s a shame. He should sign with the UFC and see what real money is.
"You stick a microphone in a guy's face and he calls out anybody but the champion, and Joe Silva should fax him a pink slip right then." -- Chael Sonnen.
Real Fights?
The man didn’t lose for a decade and he was in the top promotion till it collapsed. Then he faced two of the top ranked fighters in the world. I think he knows what a real fight is more than just about any of the up and coming UFC HW fighters.
Yep Timmeh and AA are beasts.
Forgot about Lindland and HMC, sorry.
Yeah..
Tim is a wuss. He was just a top ranked HW that reigned on top of UFC’s HW division for two years before falling to Nog. Arlovski was only coming off a five fight winning streak and also was a top ranked HW. Unbelievable. Not one of the top ranked UFC contenders have remotely close to a resume as Fedor. Not even on the same planet.
Reading FAIL.
But its cool, I know Fedor followers are blind.
Just to add fuel to your fire, Fedor would go 1-4 against the UFCs top 5. Enjoy.
Right
Because Shane Carwin just showed he is such a multi-dimensional fighter and Brock showed that he can curl up in a fetal position after getting whacked. JDS couldn’t put away a guy who was knocked out by a post UFC AA (who you seem to have no respect for). Either Fedor or Reem could pummel any of the top 5 on any given night. Hell, Silva could put any of them on their ass. None of them will come close to having a career remotely like he had. They live in his shadow, not the other way around. But, Dana will wave his hands in front of your eyes and use his Jedi mind trick on you. Doesn’t change reality.
and all those "up and coming" UFC HW Fighters
Are ranked higher than anyone he could fight in SF, besides Werdum.
That Fedor come to the UFC and get "real " fights.
He is fading fast…save your god.
FEDOR!
FEDOR
Fedor
fedor
fedor
…
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity
by Ubernoober on Aug 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
There Are HW Fights in Strikeforce for Fedor
Werdum, Overeem, King Mo, Silva, Lashley (if he ever faces a top guy), Del Rosario. I still think he doesn’t re-up and signs with the UFC.
well at least his fans are facing reality now for the most part
I have nothing against the guy and I realize he’s undoubtedly the greatest heavyweight of all time (so far), but lets be realistic, his peak is long gone and I have no interest in watching him fight inferior strikeforce competition 4-6 more times.
by ShoNuffthaMasta on Aug 12, 2010 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
What?
How is he past his peak? One loss in a decade, where he made a mistake, and he is past his peak? He is about the same age as Carwin and Lesnar. I know the UFC is great and all but fighters like Overeem, Werdum, and Silva could all bang in the UFC HW division.
maybe so...
but if that is true, why aren’t they doing it? I agree that Overeem would do well in the UFC, Fedor would be ok….but honestly he was past his peak before he lost to Werdum…he has been past his peak since he left Pride to be honest.
by ShoNuffthaMasta on Aug 12, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
And You Are Basing This On
…what exactly. Since Pride imploded he has had six fights, four against top 10 ranked fighters, and lost once, for the first time really in his whole career. The whole notion that he peaked in Pride is nonsense. That is the Dana White line. It amazes me how it is echoed almost verbatim. He does his job well.
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