UFC 118: Edgar vs. Penn 2 In-Depth Preview
by Nick Thomas on Aug 11, 2010 8:29 PM EDT
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PrintBJ Penn talks Frankie Edgar - "I see his whole team run and pick him up. All your boys put you on their shoulders and dance you around in front of the judges and try to steal the victory. I'm not going to be a part of that. Whatever, man. That's the man you are. You're the Ultimate Fighting Champion? Okay. I got you. It's a joke."
"I'm not afraid to exchange with him in any way. I don't think he wants to exchange with me. He's going to be running around. He's just going to try to jazz up what he did last time. A little quicker, a little better, maybe throw in a little kick. His corner, they don't have much to work with. They've just got little Frankie Edgar. They don't have the knockout king or the submission king. They've just got Frankie Edgar."
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Edged? Stolen?? I dunno.
I certainly don’t think that Edgar “dominated” Penn that April, but he did win the fight. No question about it.
Penn couldn’t catch him. And when he sat and waited for him? Edgar touched him and got out.
For Rogan to suggest that he “edged” him (I took that as it was a “close” decision) and BJ to feel like the judges should have called it the other way…
… I think that’s unfair to Edgar’s strategy that evening.
Semper Fi
If only constantly punching the air 2 inches in front of and next to BJ’s head were a scoring criteria.
by argyle on Aug 11, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Ha!
That’s your opinion…
… I think Edgar controlled the fight by forcing Bj out of his style-of-fight. Edgar was more active and won the final two rounds. The first three were not decisive rounds for either fighter.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Aug 12, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think it was a horrid decision.
I gave Frankie rounds 4 and 5. IMO it was a prefrence thing. Edgar landed more shots, but Penn landed the cleaner more effective strikes.
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
*preference
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
Actually...
Edgar didn’t land more strikes.
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/08/edgar-vs-penn-fightmetric-report.html
"A fast body-contact game played by men with clubs in their hands and knives laced to their feet." - Paul Gallico
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I gave rounds 4 and 5 to Frankie as well, but that still leaves rounds 1-3 to the Champ….Horrid Decision.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on Aug 12, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Edgar won that fight on body language and poor judging.
Anything else is revisionist history.
All the blogs had it as Penn or a draw, Fightmetric had it for Penn.
Even Compustrike, which EVERYONE who argued that Edgar won bandwagoned, has it at best a draw under ten point must, round by round (though it does claim more total strikes for Frankie).
Frankie Edgar is fantastic, and he shocked the world, but he should not have been awarded that win (In fact, I think Matt Serra had a better case to pick up a decision when he fought BJ).
And it’s unfortunate to see the fans who suddenly turn around and call the judges’ decision unassailable in this instance while every other time we all freely acknowledge that this sport has crap judging, because this time it supports the outcome they wanted.
(Not saying that applies to you ChicagoMarine, you’re calling it how you watched it. But a lot of the people who argue for the validity of scoring a UD for Edgar take that stance)
by LBo on Aug 11, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny – I’m a huge BJ fan, and I thought Frankie barely edged him out.
But I don’t see Serra as having done enough to beat BJ. BJ didn’t look good in that fight but he still took two rounds easily.
This was a fight you really had to watch in HD.
The way that BJ kept snapping his head back to avoid the punches really made it look like more strikes were landing that actually were.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
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If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
Toney is gonna get WHOOPED
I didn’t see anything all that impressive there, dude is delusional
"A man that does not fall, does not stand up."
Chael Sonnen: The true p4p KING!
No kidding
I was thinking his hands didn’t look very fast at all, I was expecting something like JDS hitting the mitts.
Not afraid to nitpick
Toney is fat as hell now
and not Roy Nelson fat. He’s gonna gas half way through the first round, theres no way he’ll win once it gets passed that
SUBTITLES - Now that is funny.
Toney doesn’t seem to be able to move his shoulders. I know it’s just a promo, but dude doesn’t look good.
by higgledy-piggledy on Aug 12, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Gray
needs a finish more than ever imo
BJ is so butt hurt it is funny lol
Of course they set up Edgar with a can for his first title defense…
by truck on Aug 11, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fighters that need subtitles in UFC promos:
Brazilians
James Toney
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Aug 11, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
And Michael Bisping for whatever reason
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Hamill
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- Frank Zappa
by grizzlyatoms on Aug 11, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Tito Ortiz
Not because I can’t understand his words, just to clarify what he actually means.
by ufc4 on Aug 11, 2010 10:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
gotta love how toney's inability to speak proper english
makes him the first American UFC fighter to require subtitles
couture needs to choke this fool out
You must defeat me to stand a chance.
they need to find some fighters from Mudstick Alabama and Bois de Merde Maine to even out the subtitle distribution.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity
We need a James Toney Converter App for the I-Pad
Take whatever you write and make it look like James Toney was writing it.
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
k bizzaches waht up jtoney heah hollah. goan be knokin oput alla deze bizzaches in de ufsee. brock u keep runnin cuz im comin fo yo candy ass. to all ds hatahs out da go fuck yoselves.
peace
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity
by Ubernoober on Aug 11, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
wow, he surprisingly can say peace so that one can translate it
Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down
by Austin Martin on Aug 11, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You're being too gracious
I actually understood like half of that
I love how BJ says Edgar celebrating "Stole the fight"
The judges cards were already tallied :|
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
It doesn’t add credibility that the other guy “stole the fight” if right afterwards you are seen hanging onto the fence staring at the ground dejectedly.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity
by Ubernoober on Aug 11, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, just shows how little BJ knows about the judging process.
BJ really makes me dislike him when he gets like this.
Has he stopped training with Marinovich?
by Polyhedron on Aug 11, 2010 9:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Last i’ve seen he has not. “Check out BJPENN.com for more info….”
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on Aug 12, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
They couldn't get Kenny to do his own voiceovers?
Seriously, what’s up wit dat?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
So excited
Can’t wait for Penn to get that accessory back. Hana Hou!
by seanerk88 on Aug 11, 2010 8:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Edgar vs Penn 1
10-9 Edgar
10-9 Edgar
10-9 Penn
10-9 Edgar
10-9 Edgar
Because he has so much natural talent, I have tried very hard to like BJ and be a fan. I just can’t. I give up.
by tharv3 on Aug 11, 2010 9:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He doesn't make it too easy.
He really made an effort with the Kenny and Diego fights, and was gracious after the Edgar fight initially, but he’s back to his old ways it seems.
by Polyhedron on Aug 11, 2010 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s called hyping a fight. See: Sonnen, Chael.
by Adam Morgan on Aug 11, 2010 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least Chael is gracious in defeat.
by Polyhedron on Aug 11, 2010 9:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he gets the shot after losing to florian? Strikeforce matchmaking alert.
Mir, Nightmare , Axe Murderer , Bones
by MMA-UK on Aug 11, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Edgar won a decision
He did all the right things, just enough not to lose and convince some judges to give him points.
Why is it I can’t help feeling that he didn’t really take the belt from BJ?
It’s time for BJ to stop whining and throw down, or fade away.
..!..
BJ is going to hurt Frankie this time.
I see a Diego headvagina in his future.
meeeee too
i really think bj is going to go out there and murder edgar decisively
who is keizer soze
by Johnathan Willis on Aug 11, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The one thing that Frankie has...
is his amazing footwork, like the preview said. As I recall, the only thing BJ really got him with last time were those counter left hooks. If Frankie can keep up the pace and control position like he did last time, and plan a counter to those hooks, he can win the standup pretty easily. Of course, I have very little idea what he’s like on the ground, but it’s fair to say BJ has the advantage there.
Penn will have no respect for Edgars power and he’ll eat a few shots if necessary to take Edgar down. Once Edgar hits the mat it’s over for him. There is a reason that Penn is a heavy favorite in the rematch. He’s better.
This is Machida/Shogun all over again...
We all saw what happened last time…
by A K I R A on Aug 12, 2010 3:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I dont think BJ said
“little” kick or “little” Frankie Edgar. I don’t hear that word being used. I think he says “maybe throw a kick” and “They’ve only got Frankie Edgar.”
Lets not add more insults to what BJ actually says. Please fix that.
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." -Will Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
Toney is still funny as imo
this guy can trash talk,all he needs to do now is back it up,should be an interesting fight,the amount of trash he will talk if he wins will be off the hook
that 'steal-the-victory' argument..
..is so damn weak. and bj knows it.
he acts like a sissy whenever he’s lost a fight.
FITCH for UNDERCARD!
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