Shark Fights 13: Jardine vs. Prangley Fight Card - UPDATED
by Nick Thomas on Aug 26, 2010 10:53 AM EDT
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Print[UPDATE] - Brock Larson vs. Tarec Saffiedine and Paul Bradley vs. Johnny Rees completes the full card for Saturday, September 11th, live on PPV for $29.99:
In the Main Event from Civic Center Coliseum in Amarillo, Texas, he's one of the best known fighters in the world. A veteran of the UFC, "The Dean of Mean" Keith Jardine has more to prove than ever as he tries to come back after his majority decision loss to Matt Hamill. But standing in his way is AKA fighter and Shark Fights Light Heavyweight Champion, Trevor Prangley who returns to the Shark Cage after his loss to Tim Kennedy.
In the co-main event, Team Quest fighter and UFC Veteran Rameau "The African Assassin" Sokoudjou comes to Shark Fights ready to battle. Having won his last two fights, he looks to continue his winning streak against the ever explosive UFC Veteran Houston "The Assassin" Alexander.
Main bouts:
Keith Jardine (15-8-1) vs. Trevor Prangley (22-6-1)
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (9-6) vs. Houston Alexander (10-6)
Paul Daley (24-9-2) vs. Jorge Masvidal (20-5)
Drew McFedries (8-6) vs. Joey Villasenor (27-7)
Brock Larson (28-4) vs. Tarec Saffiedine (9-2)
Preliminary bouts:
Ronnie Mann (17-2-1) vs. Doug Evans (10-6) [FW title]
Paul Bradley (12-2) vs. Johnny Rees (12-2)
Aaron Rosa (14-3) vs. Dave Herman (16-2)
Marcus Hicks (9-3) vs. Karen Darabedyan (9-3)
Pete Spratt (21-17) vs. Eric Davila (17-10)
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Holy UFC castouts batman
Some fights here that id like to see tho!
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 11, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is a good card
Almost better than UFC 120. ;-)
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
UFC castoffs or not
This is a good card. Not everyone can fight in the UFC, I’m just glad we’re able to still see some of these guys.
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
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by grizzlyatoms on Aug 11, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i was waiting for this comment.
I was merely pointing out the obvious, i never said UFC only. quit being predictable. I also said there are some decent fights on this card.
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 11, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he was replying to me with an obvious sarcastic undertone "not everyone can fight in the UFC"
i figured id get a reply like this.
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 11, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy unnecessary defensiveness, part 2.
by Snake_Pliskan on Aug 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
some of you guys are either idiots or trolling
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 11, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
part 3
dude, I’m stupid and I post stupid stuff.
If the other posters are feeling snarky they’ll snark all over you like they do me.
Take it in the hilarious spirit in which it’s intended and learn, don’t get so defensive about your opinion and start calling people trolls.
I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...
Troll!
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
what is it exactly that i am "supposed to learn"
you guys’ crack me up
yess those guys’ were trolls, your a troll defender.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 11, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
please stop the name calling
thanks
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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 26, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
Not trying to be sarcastic. Just trying to put a positive spin on it.
Meh…
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
- Frank Zappa
by grizzlyatoms on Aug 11, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
survivor?
can we just vote this guy off, the g-string was riding really high today……low selfesteem i guess. how can you have an “obvious undertone”?
i can admit when i'm wrong, can you?
by nocoolname32 on Aug 11, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
think aboot what teh words mean
they can be put together and be an accurate description.
Survivor? you pansies wouldn’t last 5 minutes on “my island”
(lol, ofc)
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 11, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe i should have said Zuffa
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 11, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
TBA fighting himself? Holy crap he's brave.
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
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by eastcoastatlas on Aug 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He learned from the master
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
by SSreporters on Aug 11, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Can you imagine the insurance premium?
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to see TBA is willing to fight a guy that comes out of the same training camp. Rare these days.
by Snake_Pliskan on Aug 11, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm interested in this...
…but 30 bucks is just too much for me.
Why can't they have $5 ppvs?
I remember they used to have NHB cards for 5 bucks in the early days, which reportedly did more sales than big boxing cards. I’m not sure how the pricing works, but a lower price would give them better leverage volume wise.
Your answer...
100,000 buys at $30 = $3,000,000
500,000 buys at $5 = $2,500,000
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Even 50,000 would be a nice return.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...I don't think it'll do 100k buys...
just wanted to use nice round numbers to show that 400,000 more buys at $5 a pop is less revenue.
I mean, realistically this will do like…20-30,000 buys. Maybe less. Let’s say it does 10,000 just to be ultra-realistic. That’d bring in $300,000. PPV companies probably take 30%ish so you’re at $210,000 now. Then you subtract the production costs (which I’m not even going to guess) and the fighter pay and you’re not talking a lot of money.
Now, if they were selling it for $5 it may attract some extra viewers but I really doubt it would be that many but let’s go totally unrealistic and say it attracts 5x the audience by being cheaper and they do 50,000 buys instead. $250,000 in PPV revenue total minus the 30% guess on cable/sat company takes and you’re at $175,000. So they have $35,000 less in revenue from PPV with the same exact production costs and fighter pay.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
PPV company only takes 30%? Wouldn’t it be more like Shark Fights gets 30%? Even the UFC doesn’t get 70% of the take from PPV money.
http://www.instrength.com
It's probably closer to 40% now that I'm thinking about it.
The idea that 50% or more of PPV revenue goes to cable companies is largely incorrect. That being said, I’m sure the UFC has a better deal and a lower percentage goes to the cable/sat companies.
The % taken is less important here than just trying to explain the reasoning that you’ll probably never see $5 ppv’s again.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The idea that 50% or more of PPV revenue goes to cable companies is largely incorrect.
For a fledgling operation with no track record? You think?
by Jonathan Snowden on Aug 26, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize that those numbers are hypothetical, but 100,000 buys seems wildly optimistic given that even Affliction struggled to break that barrier.
Using your figures, lets say they priced it at $10, they would do better with the bump in sales than from a higher priced ppv. Its worth exploring IMO.
Brock Larson's on the undercard!
Wow, Shark Fights is getting bulky with talent.
...like young thieves in a glowing orchard, loosely jacketed against the cold and ten thousand worlds for the choosing.
- C. McCarthy
Haha i was actually thinking how funny it was that Larson said it was hard to find motivation for the undercard of a UFC fight, and now he can’t even get on the main card of a low tier promotion. Hows that irony taste brock?
Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down
by Austin Martin on Aug 11, 2010 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol yes.. hadn’t thought of that before, my god is he ever going to be uninspired now!
by Horselover Fat on Aug 11, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd probably slit his wrists in the cage
but nobody would see it.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m surprised to see all these Strikeforce fighters on the card: Trevor Prangley, Joey Villasenor, Tarec Saffiedine, Paul Bradley, and Aaron Rosa. I guess that is the benefit to having these open contracts. Does Strikeforce and Shark Fights have some sort of deal with each other?
by chrisbboy82 on Aug 26, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure...
that they’re going to air any undercard bouts that they have time for (i’ll try to get ultimate confirmation on this today)
There’s going to be plenty of extra time with some of the guys on the card being such all or nothing fighters.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes...
Doug said they were going to air them, just haven’t been told a channel yet
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Yeah.
I’m just trying to confirm if they’ll air them on the PPV if the main-card bouts end early. Because like…I don’t have HDNet so if they air them there…that does me very little good.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wld hope so...
I know he was saying it wld be on a different channel but they fights wld be shown. That would suck if they showed them on HDNET…I mean I have it, but it seems a bunch of people don’t.
I’ll stream them to you with my blackberry…ha.
Everyone give me a dollar!!!
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Great card
I’ll buy it for sure.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
I really doubt they will be able to pay all the fighters on the card, and the promotion will fail. It’s just happened too often. They do have 12 cards supposedly so far, but instead of adding a big name fight to headline the show with several unknowns, they have stacked it with guys that make more than 10k per fight. I don’t know what the gate will do, but the ppv will regardless be low, with them getting maybe $100k. They won’t be advertising to mainstream audiences.
I don’t understand these guy’s business model. It’s great to have these other fighters fight, but lets make sure they are getting paid.
It’s a big jump up in talent for them but they’ve been around long enough that I don’t really have much reservation about their paying the fighters. Also, you can’t exactly not have the money to pay fighters in the states. This was a big part of why the Shine Fights card didn’t happen at all. Actually a much bigger part of the equation than the Thomas/Mayorga fight falling apart.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm told from my contacts in Amarillo
that they have a very interesting money mark for this one fight.
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If they can afford Huerta,
They can match him up with Masvidal and have Larson fight Daley.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
never mind
Forgot Masvidal doesn’t want to cut weight.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Bellator 12 was catchweight right?
Is this Masvidal’s first fight at WW?
by marta_gallo on Aug 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup Bellator 12 was at 160 and he was in the LW Bellator tournament. Pretty sure its his first WW fight. I think he should be at WW though he is 5’10 so well see how this added weight(and hopefully muscle) will help him.
We share the same birthday...
So I will be hoping he does well at WW, interested to see how much muscle he has added if any.
by marta_gallo on Aug 26, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Or we will see Houston from the Kimbo fight, and Sokoudjou from the Minowaman fight.. should be epic
by Horselover Fat on Aug 11, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
First round Soku is no joke
He looked good against Gegard. He showed some nice Judo in that fight.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Houston would do well to fly Minowa out and sit him near the cage.
It’d be a Godfather moment when Soko sees him.
by Polyhedron on Aug 11, 2010 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hell yes!
This show has all the makings to be one hell of a fun night of fights.
For $30, I’m definitely ordering this one.
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by Applejack McNeil on Aug 11, 2010 2:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
all about investors
The Shark Fights business plan is likely to lose money in the short term while building brand recognition by putting on stacked cards like these. They likely have investor money to cover the deficit. I would imagine there is plenty of investor cash out there for a growing sport like MMA, and having a card stacked with former high profile UFC fighters should be enough to attract some real money. Moosin turned the trick with a card no where near this calibre, so we know the money is out there.
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (9-6) vs. Houston Alexander (10-6)
The battle for the most over hyped brother in MMA!
"I ain't got time to breath."
Watch Tosh.O
Pain don't hurt...
Bobby Lashley might have something to say about that.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Aug 11, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe they are setting up the long awaited houston-jardine rematch...
ha.
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by TrojanCBB on Aug 11, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
shark fights is in a very separate situation than anyone else. they have run 12 cards with lesser quality stars, and are now setting up to do a PPV with some guys with bigger names. If this is a one time, or even a twice a year thing, there’s no point in wasting a ppv slot for a title fight for a title no one has ever heard of and may never hear of again. there’s also no point in tying themselves to these bigger names by trying to put the belt on one of them.
Yeah, he was the Main Event in March(Doug)
…but he knows some bigger names and a defense of his title on the 11th will just create more publicity for the organization and bigger paychecks.
Don’t forget….Shark Fights gets people in the seats as well, they aren’t having shows where just 1,500 people show up.
I’ll be there in his corner and can’t wait!!! Good Card all around!!!
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For Sure
I haven’t been to one yet that wasn’t packed by the time the main card started (aside from the first few). Hell, they set the record for outdoor events twice – The first time was a free event, and the second had Kimbo just show up…
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
- Frank Zappa
by grizzlyatoms on Aug 11, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yessir
Couldn’t afford great seats (I paid less for similar seats at Bones vs Vera, ha), but I’ll be there anyway.
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
- Frank Zappa
by grizzlyatoms on Aug 11, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Right On...
I was supposed to do a Triathlon that day, but decided to drop that race when Doug told me he was fighting, so instead I’m driving there from Arkansas to help him out.
Hopefully they have the weigh-ins at the Mall again…pretty good crowd and set up, then it’s off to BIG TEXAN for a Monster Ribeye!!!!
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haha
The Big Texan. I haven’t been there in years. I forget about that place till I go out of town.
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
- Frank Zappa
by grizzlyatoms on Aug 11, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't figure...
…it was a place the locals frequent. Just us tourists. I’m sure the novelty wears off real quick when you live there
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Oh yeah
I’m not making fun or anything. The foods really not bad – just out of the way. If you have time, you should check out The Coyote Bluff Cafe. I’ve actually seen it on the Travel Channel too, but it’s a shitty hole-in-the-wall. Best burger in town tho.
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."
- Frank Zappa
by grizzlyatoms on Aug 11, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Do...
Maybe I’ll grab me one while he’s cutting weight and eat it in front of him.
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Come on guys...
So is the company gambling its future on a onetime mega-event?
“One of the great things is that I’ve got great, great investors who are committed,” said Medley, a former pro fighter who owns a 1999 victory over WEC contender Leonard Garcia. "They’re big fight fans themselves. … So I went to them, and we got separate money for this show. I said I want it (the event costs, including fighters salaries) paid for before the event.
Also, they are looking at airing the Prelims, either in a deal with HDNet or another channel to air the undercard or all on PPV. It’s why they are waiting to have a PR release on their broadcast plans.
I'll be the Bald Guy...
If my coach from Alaska comes as well…I’ll be the taller of the Bald Guys…ha
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This is one of those cards where I will be pissed off at anyone I know of who watches a stream rather than paying for.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
TBA vs. TBA!?
That’ll be like, fight of the century.
If I wake up tomorrow and see that the world has ended, then that means God has finally granted my prayers.
GO Armageddon!!!
Alot of these guys are signed under the Strikeforce banner
I wonder if its some kind of Contract relief/Co-promotion type of deal?
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