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Randy Couture Questions James Toney's Conditioning for UFC 118

Sorry Frankie and B.J. didn't mean to decapitate you.

Ben Fowlkes talks to Randy Couture:

"At first I thought we'd do 205, since that's the weight class I'm at now. Then they said, 'How about a catchweight of 220?' I said, fine with me, since that's the weight I generally walk around at. Then his camp said they didn't want to do 220 and just wanted to do a heavyweight bout. I said, whatever, it's fine, let's just do it.

"You know, he's 5'11, walking around at 240 or 245, if he wants to do the work to get in shape and get down to 220 or 205, okay. If he doesn't, it doesn't make any difference to me."

Fowlkes also asks Randy about the rumors that James Toney has been tapping out name training partners like Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal and Dean Lister:

"Nah, I don't believe that," Couture chuckled. "He's probably doing some wrestling with Mo Lawal. That wouldn't surprise me. I know he's not training with Dean Lister. Dean called me himself when that one broke and said, 'I'm not training with that guy. Don't believe that stuff.' But it doesn't matter. All the talk is just talk. No matter who he can get to say he's tapped them out in training, on the day he's still going to walk down to the cage and get in there with me and that's when all that stuff stops." 

Randy also isn't intimidated by the pressure of carrying the weight of representing MMA UFC vs Boxing:

"This sport is doing awesome. We'll be compared to boxing forever and that's probably not going to stop after this fight. There'll be some other boxer that's going to step up and say he's going to knock everybody out. The sport's going to continue to do what it's going to do whether I win this fight or not. Obviously, I'm preparing to win and doing everything in my power to win this fight. James is a dangerous guy. There's no doubt about that. It's still a fight when we get in there, but it's a mixed martial arts fight - not a boxing match."

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I only rec'd it, since you made me scoot over. I was there already.

Then you lost me at Randy beating Shogun. That’s just crazy talk.

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by Snatchl on Aug 10, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, it may not happen

but i can hope. Couture is my favorite fighter, period. if he brings his A game and Shogun blows out a knee … well, stranger things have happened. haha.

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by bobthewriter on Aug 10, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...

What about the five or so guys he’d have to bring his A game for and hope for a freak injury before he could get to Rua?

by gavingavinkindgavin on Aug 10, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's randy couture

in about as high-profile fight as you can get in the UFC. the MMA/boxing matchup is going to make the UFC a ton of $ … if Randy wants a title fight after (if?) he wins, do you really think Dana’s going to say no?

promoted properly, Randy-Shogun would do great business. i’m not saying Randy could hold the belt for long, but he could certainly win it.

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by bobthewriter on Aug 10, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was skeptical at first, but you do have a good point here. Also, the ads for this PPV mainly feature Toney vs Couture with Penn vs Edgar II pretty much playing second fiddle. If Couture wins and this gets a lot of PPV buys, it is not inconceivable that he would get a Title shot (after Rahshad Evans) or at least one more fight then a Title shot.

by chrisbboy82 on Aug 10, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL at Randy freaking Couture having to win seven or eight in a row to get a title shot. He has already surpassed his longest streak of non-title matches in the UFC. There is no way in hell they make him run the gauntlet.

If he beats Toney, he’ll need one more win at most.

by Steve4192 on Aug 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing as in hes really old, i bet you could hug them.

"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson

by mma is #1 on Aug 10, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since I don't really follow boxing can someone enlighten me?

I’ve heard people comment that James is a ballooned up welterweight and judging by his physique I wouldn’t at all be surprised by that. Toney may be claiming to be taking this fight seriously (and maybe he is, maybe he’s just too far over the hill) but it’s pretty sad if it’s true that Toney’s camp asked for a catch weight and then heavyweight bout assuming he used to fight much lighter.

by dreamers_12345 on Aug 10, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

He was champ at 168

which is super middleweight in boxing.

I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...

by xAtlasx on Aug 10, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toney training to deathfight with the aide of King Mo Mousassi.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Aug 10, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry Frankie and B.J. didn’t mean to decapitate you.

Penn is the one decapitated.

The picture clearly alludes to the idea that Edgar is head and shoulders above Penn.

by truck on Aug 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm...

Edgar head and shoulders above Penn? He did better last time, I agree but Penn is still pretty amazing…

And I really really hope Randy wins this one

by Arca MMA on Aug 10, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Just cause I said it, doesn’t mean I believe it… :)

by truck on Aug 10, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling....

that Couture vs Toney is going to turn out just like Trevor Berbick vs. Nobuhiko Takada.

by Bandaka on Aug 10, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

IHateMMA

Mo Lawal said a couple of weeks ago that people who slate Toney having never met him are ’’zombies’’. Looking at your post i think he may have a point.

by sheikybaby on Aug 10, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude

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I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...

by xAtlasx on Aug 10, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hey, it was toney who got his name wrong.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Aug 10, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Toney know that rounds in MMA are 5 minutes long?

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Aug 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully Randy finishes him off quickly and viciously. It’d be sad if after dominating the first round, Randy got knocked out in the second.

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by andrew861 on Aug 10, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am Afraid.

I can’t get the Vera fight out of my head. Randy looked really old. I believe he has started to significantly loose his reflexes. Toney has always had fantastic timing. I am not so sure this will be an easy fight.

by El Webber on Aug 10, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Leg Kick, Leg Kick, Leg Kick

Slow Cooking! MMM-MMM GOOD!
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by MSEMCEE on Aug 10, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

God no, Randy throws wooden leg kicks and drops his hands, he’ll get clobbered by Toeny.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity

by Ubernoober on Aug 10, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s fighting James Toney in an MMA match. I see him throwing lots of leg kicks with combinations to get inside and wrestle. People are thinking Coutures going to come out and a second in shoot for a takedown. I just don’t think that happens.

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by MSEMCEE on Aug 10, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

how mma fighters never try to do boxing fights huh can any one tell me y?

by Bonge on Aug 10, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Because MMA is the new thing. Boxers feel threatened by MMA, not the other way around.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Aug 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have, just at a very low level. Vitor, Anderson Silva and Jens Pulver have all boxed, but far, far from world standard.

by sheikybaby on Aug 10, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, it happens in the early stages of their career more often than not. I don’t think we’ve seen accomplished vets going to box, right?

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Aug 10, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, I’m surprised they let that other guy fight after the 2nd knock down.

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by donkeypunch on Aug 10, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn! That guy was a pure “opponent”

by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 10, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Are you serious?
I’m not sure.

by badpvtdan on Aug 10, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more time goes by...

the more I’m convinced Toney is just looking for a one time paycheck.

by Cocytus on Aug 10, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what Toney is good for

During 116, I loved his promo bit – pay the bill, or the lights go out – had the bar laughing.

"I'd love to be a Cheick Kongo looking brother that could actually move and do a lot of funky stuff - Jiu Jitsu, takedowns, kicks and stuff." - Jon Jones.

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by outlander78 on Aug 11, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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