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Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez Confirmed for October in Anaheim

Lesnar_velasquez_mediumRecent speculation suggested that Brock Lesnar's next UFC heavyweight title defense against top contender Cain Velasquez would happen in Indianapolis in September, but those rumors fell through when UFC president Dana White denied that report.  We now have confirmation from Ariel Helwani at MMA Fighting that the fight instead has been signed for UFC 121 in October in Anaheim, California:

Brock Lesnar will make his next title defense against Cain Velasquez at UFC 121.

UFC president Dana White confirmed with MMA Fighting Friday night that the heavyweight title fight will take place at the yet-to-be officially announced event, scheduled for Oct. 23 at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif.

Although not yet official, the PPV event is expected to take place on October 23rd at the Honda Center, last visited by the UFC for UFC 76: Knockout, back in September of 2007.  The event takes place one week after UFC 120 in London, England, which airs on Spike TV in the US.  The 121 event was initially rumored to be heading for Germany, but those plans have apparently fallen through. 

The rumored card for UFC 121 now includes:

- Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez
- Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. TBA
- Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor

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That's a pretty sick rumored card!

I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science

by Alex Grad on Jul 9, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

If this card holds up

with all of these scheduled fights, gotta be one of the best cards ever. 92 was stacked and 100 was nice, but the top 3 fights are all great fights.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 9, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just can’t imagine them putting all those huge names on one card. Machida/Rampage as the third fight of the night? I would love it but I don’t see it happening. 3 of those fights could headline a show in November. I guess it will depend on how quick Silva fucks up Sonnen’s retarded mouth next month.

I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science

by Alex Grad on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s like a birthday present for me. (my b-day being 10/22)

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by JeremyShane on Jul 10, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mine is the 24th

This is great! I always get my fav fighters or great cards for my bday fights.

"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"

by dedstrk316 on Jul 10, 2010 4:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mine is the 25th

2 years ago i got Anderson Vs. Cote….

Then Last year i think Lyoto V Shogun

Now my boy Cain

I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones

by AfroSamurai on Jul 10, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somethin tells me this card will be destroyed by injuries etc.

by Hendo_One-Shot on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that since everyone is expecting that, we’ll un-jinx it and no injuries will happen

by MikeD32 on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

but now that you mentioned the possibility of un-jinxing it, it’ll probably be jinxed…

a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon

by eastcoastatlas on Jul 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Brock confirms this...

I will buy my tix, 3 months out, he was talkin about farming and combine and the baby due soon I dont think this will hold up. If it does tho I will for sure buy a tiickket

by FrostyGreenz559 on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

He put pen to paper and had fights moved a lot of times. I have tickets that say Brock-Mir II on them for the UFC that ended up as Machida-Rashad

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on Jul 10, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a huge Machida fan so I was ok with it. It went from being awesome because it was an event fight to awesome because I got to see Machida win the title.

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on Jul 10, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fact I went to four of Machida’s fights in a row. The only one I didn’t go to? His loss to Shogun. I blame myself.

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on Jul 10, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t really blame Brock for that one, Mir pulled out with an “injury”.

by ufc4 on Jul 10, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn I got GANKED again.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I posted a link

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not mad, comment was tongue-in-cheek

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine was more sophisticated

Hence it hasn’t been deleted.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I havent quite

figured out the fine art of posting a fancy FanShot. Mine are all very basic.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yours doesn't mention Lesnar/Carwin. LOL

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one is complaining, at least I wasn't

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

No complaining

just commenting on what happened. I am glad you put together a story for it, like I said my fanshots suck.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

Fagan said there was no front page?

I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science

by Alex Grad on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

well most of the other blogs

just promote the original fanpost or fanshot to the front page and give credit to the original poster instead of stealing the credit

by blueballlefty on Jul 10, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhhhhh

Who cares what other blogs do?

Who cares that it is the normal policy for Bloody Elbow?

He can do what he wants. It’s his blog. He is a news and community moderator. What credentials do you have? We aren’t featured writers, we’re just fans. We should know damn well that if there’s a news story or a quote or we have an idea for a fanpost that we should sleep on it and give someone else the chance to post it.

You want credit? CREDIT?!?! Your “credit” is that you get to comment on it.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad he didn't take your "Shhhhh" to heart earlier.

He has a history, and falsely accusing me of “stealing” earned him a lifetime membership to the Rule #4 club.

by Scott Haber on Jul 10, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

We totally stole Rule #4 for the Orioles SBN blog, btw.

Although we made it Rule #8. I strongly lobbied for it to be Rule #4 there, too. Alas, I was unsuccessful.

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by duck on Jul 10, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing people have to understand,

is that front page stories, get hits from google, while fanposts/fanshots do not…. BROCKLESNAR and other big news deserves a story, not just a fanpost/shot.

now, on the small stories, and info, if it looks & reads well, then it is likely to get fronted. :)

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 10, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the guy's biggest quip was that normally ther is an HT (at the very least)

Like with Snowden’s article.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually,

HT is given to the person who you acknowledge for letting you know about the news. If he saw it first from the original source, then an HT shouldn’t be given… technically, but most people just use it to give props and become nice by giving an HT anyway…

oh and one more thing, most of the staff get news then write a post that is scheduled to publish at a certain time (to give the latest post it’s deserved exposure), so that may seem like “they’re late”, which in case, they’re really not. (on some cases)

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 10, 2010 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snowden hit me with an HT

for the Chael Sonnen post earlier. I thought it was nice of him to do. I didn’t feel upset about it going to the main page either because that’s where it should be. It would be cool to have a fanpost of mine be promoted to the main page but I don’t really write fanposts that would qualify for that. Either way, no one should be upset.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 10, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I wasn't. My comment was TIC

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

TIC?

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 10, 2010 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tongue in Cheek

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry.

I pretty much hate the lazy internet speak that so many use. I avoid it at all cost.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 10, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had typed it out previously a few times. LOL I got lazy.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just stating the guy's argument, not that I felt it was appropriate

And seeing as how the news just broke, I don’t think it was pre-written

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, all my posts sound like I care so much, but I don’t.

I dost protest too much.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

doth

you doth protest too much.

"Daydreams of a 'fair' world which would treat him according to his 'real worth' are the refuge of all those plagued by a lack of self-knowledge." -- Ludwig von Mises.

by IKilled007 on Jul 11, 2010 5:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

hope this card comes through…. with one or two nice undercard fights

by tkired on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Surprised Brock is fighting again...

so soon, but very glad he is. Hope this rumored card holds up

by 19Miles on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

well to be a "real champion"

as Dana says you have to fight at least three times a year, and this would be on 4 months rest

by blueballlefty on Jul 10, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 months

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um, fighting on four months rest would enable someone to fight three times a year.

12 months / 4 months = three fights.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 10, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If people really think Anderson is going to fight in August and then October they are delusional.

by ACCBiggz on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Anderson never accumulates damage.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell that to his “fan approval”.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 10, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Oooooo. That was cold as ice!

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jul 10, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where did the Anderson thing come from?

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on Jul 10, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would rather see Lyoto/Forrest and Page/Rogerio.

by Flying Gogoplata on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

why do you hate forrest so?

How is that like Goulet? That dude goes out cold in a drafty room - Blackout612

by Well Read Idiot on Jul 10, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Any reliable sources about the Rampage/Lyoto fight?

by MikeD32 on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

great card

im happy that brock took this fight so soon…this could b a bad thing tho..cain has been training for a long time now…brock only gets few months too train after a brutal 1st round..and to look at cains does and donts

by prodigymma on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He did pretty good on the turnraround from August to November in 2008

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

He got the year layoff out of the way, There will be no ring rust involved with this fight. He will work on his deficiencies and I predict another spectacular finish.

I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science

by Alex Grad on Jul 10, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I significantly underestimated the effect of ring rust on Lesnar

But it was obvious.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad he got it out of the way before the Cain fight. It’s gonna be a helluva fight.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 10, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good rumored fights

Although Stout vs. Taylor seems more like a good fight to open up UFC 120.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt

Stout vs Taylor will be on main card, wouldnt mind seeing Rumble Johnson make his way onto this card. Anyone heard when Mr. Wonderful will be fighting again as well?

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think looking at Rumble's current shape

He’ll be fighting Mike Russow.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I lol’d

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it's all but definite

that Rumble’s next fight will be at 185

by Scott Haber on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd do Rumble vs. Lawlor

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someon getting knocked out

if that fight happened.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I chose Lawlor because he's not UFC material

And Rumble would ruin him.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rumble vs. Sakara/Rivera winner

Problem solved.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rumble vs Leben

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rematch wouldn't go too well then

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was so damn excited when that happened.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about

Rumble vs Da Spyder, finally we can see Kendall Grove and his weird chest exit the UFC.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like Reljic was supposed to do? It’s not happening.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 10, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anthony Johnson is much more explosive than Goran Reljic

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, believe me, I noticed. Take one look at him and you see that explosiveness.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 10, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one answered my question about Phil Davis, lets see Mr. Wonderful on this card, please!

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grove would drag it to the ground immediately.

Unless he’s stupid, then his chin will get exposed and KTFOed.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to fighter bash

but his celebration may show that he is quite stupid

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like how you say "Not to fighter bash"

and then you proceed to fighter bash.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 10, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just trying to cover my bases. Grove is just not an interesting fighter to me.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awaiting picture

of Rumbles weirdly shaped head when he is not at 170.

SS, are you in Seattle?

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Follow the Mariners at all? Just wondering what the coverage up there is like after the Lee deal? Radio and TV here in Dallas are going crazy about it.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a baseball fan but watching the news and looking at the blogs

They’re pretty upset over it. The team already blows so this is just adding insult to more insult.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

358 bus route here.

I train UFC just to survive the bus trip.

(Seattle isn’t bad at all, but that bus is messed up)

by MMAWrestling on Jul 10, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Snohomish County

And the buses no longer run on Sundays.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which

If his comments haven’t been deleted, check the comment thread in Brent’s article. Troll goodness.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rumble looks like a gay Black woman

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

He looks like he wants some cake, and it makes me happy.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check out the Mariners' blog

Here.

People are pretty pumped about landing Smoak in return, as they realized it was only a matter of time before Lee was traded. Lee said at the beginning of the season that he wasn’t signing an extension until after the season. Once the M’s season went sour, the trade was going to happen.

Plus, we didn’t help out the Yankees, so that was a major plus.

by MMAWrestling on Jul 10, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Smoak = All hype, no bat

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

this card is so not gonna look like this when it actually happens.

"With great power comes great responsibility" -Spiderman's Uncle

by Fake Emcee on Jul 10, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

From a pure financial point of view, why have so many guys who collect ppv bonuses (Brock, Silva, Rampage and maybe Lyoto) all on the same card, when you can just have Brock, sell probably as many ppv and not split it with anyone else. At most they keep one of the other fights. Maybe.

by John Nash on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Financially it probably wouldn’t work, but also the timeline for some of these fights wouldn’t work either unless Anderson comes out of his next fight completely unscathed. Sorry I meant the winner of Anderson/Chael comes out unscathed, but even if Chael wins Anderson will still probably come out without any damage.

"With great power comes great responsibility" -Spiderman's Uncle

by Fake Emcee on Jul 10, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everytime I think of Brock

I think of a promo he cut back in 2003 with the WWE leading up to the Judgement Day PPV against the Big Show…."You can run all over the back Big Show, you can bully anybody you want….well I aint standing for it…..you want to bully somebody Big Show…..TRY TO BULLY, BROCK LESNAR!!!!!!

Now i can never think of Brock or one of his fights without thinking of that last line.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 10, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Brock, Rampage, and Belfort on the same card, this will do massive numbers. Looking forward to it.

by dpk875 on Jul 10, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

1.4 million buys

You heard it here first.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think it will do more

by MikeD32 on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rampage's draw is nullified somewhat with Mach..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Machida drew well in both Shogun fights yes? He got the ball rolling with those two KO’s in a row prior to Shogun. And I think a Machida/Page’ main event show would pull 450-500k, which is by no means terrible.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 10, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's below their yearly average.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they sell it right

to the Latin community, this could be the biggest draw ever.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's gonna be in california too

so theres a good chance it’ll sell out

by av1o3 on Jul 10, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me thinks it’ll be a heavy Velazquez crowd.

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by Fake Emcee on Jul 10, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Belfort is a draw now? Where have I been?

by ufc4 on Jul 10, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Highly doubt

either person will make this card. The rumored card seems more like a dream scenario

by 19Miles on Jul 10, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think

that Silva has ever gotten a medical suspension after a fight. So its possible

by av1o3 on Jul 10, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brock, Silva, and Rampage is good for at least 1.5 million buys.

could it break the record? I think it could. Regardless, I don’t think all 3 of those guys make it on the card.

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by TitanFan2K on Jul 10, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

YEEES!!

I am so gonna be there.

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by CasualMMAFan on Jul 10, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Pinky and the Brain + Animaniacs

Were my favorite cartoons growing up.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take out Animaniacs

and replace it with Rocko’s Modern Life and we might just have ourselves a deal son.

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by Fake Emcee on Jul 10, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I tell all my dates once I get 'em in the car

you no longer have a choice.

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by Fake Emcee on Jul 10, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

90s cartoons

were so much better than the cartoons they have now. The kids missed out.

by av1o3 on Jul 10, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

What they lack in cartoons

they make up for with really tight jeans.

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by Fake Emcee on Jul 10, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s going to be a whole generation of adults with circulatory problems in their legs in 15 years…

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by AJB on Jul 10, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's nothing but action and anime

Cartoons today suck.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here. I can save up for the next world cup later.

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by IHateMMA on Jul 10, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that card holds up, you can go ahead and project it to be the biggest PPV ever for the UFC.

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by IHateMMA on Jul 10, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Where are all these Silva rumors from?

There’s nothing in the main article here and nothing at the linked article at MMA Fighting

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by duck on Jul 10, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better change that rumored fighting list because once Sonnen works Silva it’s going to be until 2011 before he fights again.

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cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Jul 10, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Lol, good one. I almost believed it for a second.

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by IHateMMA on Jul 10, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen will work Silva

Like every other wrestler and grappler has in the last 5 years.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...doubt he wins, but he will work Anderson over before being submitted.

Even though I don’t think he will be able to win, Sonnen will expose Anderson’s marginal TDD and somewhat over-rated BJJ, thereby removing some of the aura of invulnerability that Anderson now has.

Because Silva’s TDD is suspect at best, I anticipate Sonnen will be able to expose this flaw and show how Anderson would be vulnerable to a better MMA wrestler.

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 10, 2010 12:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chael will work him over

with his marshmallow ground and pound at worst. Silva may not be a BJJ wizard but he is good at control guys and keeping them neutral on the ground, he was able to keep Henderson and Thales Leites from really being able to do anything significant.

And btw, not to be rude or anything but do you really need to repeat the same posts pretty much word for word all over the place?

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by Fake Emcee on Jul 10, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair point about not mixing it up much, still just looking for informed dialog on the subject…(Which obviously excludes the unlikely to occur extremes…).

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 10, 2010 2:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Here’s some informed dialogue, then:

Silva’s take down defence isn’t the greatest, but it isn’t awful, but what will prevent Sonnen from getting takedowns at will are Silva’s speed and footwork. There’s a reason that it’s so hard to get within range on Silva: he’s a master at controlling his positioning and distance. He doesn’t sprawl much because he rarely has to and not just because people don’t shoot on him. It’s been no surprise to any of his opponents since his first fight with Franklin that standing and trading is a bad idea, but the reason that no one can capitalize on it isn’t just because he hasn’t faced “pure wrestlers”. It’s because even a pure wrestler needs to set up the correct range for a single or double leg shot – and I’m assuming here that no one is stupid enough to suggest takedowns from the clinch – and Silva doesn’t let people do that. When you think your range is just right, he isn’t there anymore; instead he’s countering as guys awkwardly stumble around the ring after him. And when he chooses to come forward, which is not often but it does happen, he hits people from what seems like impossible angles because his positioning in the stand up game is damn near flawless. Oh, and he has pinpoint accuracy on many of his strikes, and hits like a ton of bricks.

Chael has a chance in this fight. Chael will likely get Silva down a couple of times. Chael is not going to run a take down clinic on Silva because Silva is extremely good at avoiding the positioning in the fight that would allow that, and when he is in that kind of range, Chael is going to have to wade through a sea of fists, knees and elbows which land with far more frequency for much more damage than most other fighters can hope to generate. Speed kills, and the speed advantage is decisively in Silva’s favour. And for as much as Chael has excellent wrestling technique, Silva has equally good technique on his footwork and positioning. There’s more to Silva’s control of the location of the fight than a sprawl.

So there ya go. Tell me why I’m wrong.

(I’m not a huge Silva fan, nor a huge Sonnen fan. I just don’t see Sonnen getting Silva down without getting his face broken first.)

And isn’t this supposed to be a story on Lesnar/Cain? Why are we talking about Silva/Sonnen again?

I need more sleep. Jet lag sucks.

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by AJB on Jul 10, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point about Lesnar/Cain...

Silva certainly has good avoidance skills due to his speed and footwork, and even Sonnen seems to agree he will have to eat a few shots to get him down. Of course, like Lesnar’s speed for a man his size, everyone seems to somehow underestimate just how hard Anderson hits, all the way back to Leben.

He doesn’t look like a body builder or a power lifter, but most who do lack the ability to strike nearly as hard as one might think. Silva’s body type + technique allow him to strike extremely hard, and I don’t see Chael surviving too much of that.

Still will be interesting to see how much success he has.

Unlike most, I don’t consider TDD as strictly wrestling based moves, including the sprawl. Lyoto Machida has elite, but totally unorthodox TDD for example.

I do disagree about no one trying to take Anderson down from the clinch, but only a few capable of doing so come to mind (Machida & Jon Jones for starters).

Bottom line – will likely take a better MMA wrestler than Sonnen to beat Anderson, although if he doesn’t get KTFO in the first 2 minutes, he has a chance to do some damage.

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 10, 2010 9:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bottom line – will likely take a better MMA wrestler than Sonnen to beat Anderson, although if he doesn’t get KTFO in the first 2 minutes, he has a chance to do some damage.

That’s a damn fine bottom line; I do agree with you there.

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by AJB on Jul 10, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Name one... that is currently active in the middleweight division

So if/when he goes up will Rashad, Rampage, Randy?

Didnt mention Jon Jones because very unlikely they fight because of Jones Age and Silvas their eras and primes will just miss each other i believe

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by AfroSamurai on Jul 10, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's kind of the rub...

There are no elite MMA wrestlers at 185. GSP moving up would have a good chance against Anderson with his combo of best MMA wrestling + crazy speed/explosiveness. Kos or Shields would have a small chance of winning (better than Sonnen IMO).

Personally, barring injury, I see LHW/MW playing out something like this over the next 1 1/2 years:

Anderson – moves up and takes out Shogun for title. Owns division until Jones gets a shot at him.

Rashad – loses to Shogun and moves to his more natural weight of 185 after Anderson moves up.

Machida – crushes Rampage, loses to Shogun again, then also moves to MW (he doesn’t cut for LHW) after Anderson moves up.

Rampage – loses to Machida, continues his fade into glorified gatekeeper status.

Couture/Frankin/Griffin – no longer relevant to title picture, but would love Randy circa 2004 vs. Anderson.

Jones – takes title from Anderson. Machida is only current LHW I see giving Jones problems (after 2-3 more fights).

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 10, 2010 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rub indeed (That is if Rub is short for Rubbish)

I’ll give Sonnen as just as good of an MMA wrestler as Jake Shields which is outstanding wrestling.
My problem with knocking Sonnen is that now if/when Spider wins he will continue not to get the credit….

When no matter how great of MMA Wrestling and Explosiveness GSP has it wouldn’t be enough for Anderson and a win over a natural 185 should be praised more than a win over a natural 170…

As for next 1 1/2 years :

Anderson- beats Chael, Vitor and occassionaly comes back down to beat any seemingly dominant champion. Then if and its a big IF Jones has improved on his striking and transition game in combination with Silva falling out of his prime than Jones will beat him and attain the title.

Rashad- I see the new Rashad who is very active in transitions and staying in the middle being able to take down most current lhw’s and beating Shogun and Machida in Rematch

Machida- Retiring after another loss to Shogun or just more consecutive losses

Rampage- losing to Machida or Shogun and being slow to take fights after all his gimmie and picked fights are done.

Couture- Please retire pretty please

Franklin- Could be a terrific gatekeeper would be a good test for Jones since Forrest says he doesn’t want that fight.

Griffin- continuing picking his fights until being ebarassed by Machida and Jon Jones when he eventually is forced to fight them

Jones- Is able to takedown Machida and can hold the title if Anderson doesn’t move up in weight.

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by AfroSamurai on Jul 10, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen is an American - Silva don't like Americans in the UFC

Leban – KO rd 1
Franklin – TKO rd 1
Lutter – Sub rd 2
Marquratd – TKO rd 1
Franklin – TKO rd 2
Henderson – Sub rd 2
Irvan – KO rd 1
Griffin – KO – rd 1

We know how his fights went with the Brazillians (Leites/Maia). I guess he doesn’t hate North America as a whole (Cote) but just Americans. Do you see a trend here? Sonnen will fit right into my trending data.

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by Alex Grad on Jul 10, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually noticed the same exact thing a few weeks ago..

But didn’t want to say anything for fear of the Almighty Banhammer. That thing’s been swinging like it was building a house it seems.

by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Jul 10, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

A house made of fools and loudmouths!

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by AJB on Jul 11, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

This card won’t come out this way. The middleweight title is likely to main event the november PPV.

by Michael Rome on Jul 10, 2010 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Rome as an L.A. guy I hate your pessimism. Root for us to get an awesome local card.

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on Jul 10, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

this card can easily do well over 2mil ppv buys, but i dont think UFC will put A.S and brock on the same card..Brock, rampage & Machida is enough..save A.S for later..

by donthizz on Jul 10, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I find it hard to believe that Anderson or Sonnen would be ready or willing to turn around that fast...or are they planning to channel Chris Leben...

AND…what happened to Rampage/Little Nog? At least Rampage could potentially make that semi-entertaining, its hard to picture a more one-sided fight than Machida/Rampage…

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 10, 2010 12:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Lil Nog fighting at 119 in Indy

I would say anyone that gets a piece of the PPV action, might want to start asking to be on cards with Brock. He will draw in 1 mil viewers easily.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

For all of those...

saying this card won’t look a thing like this when it comes time, I hope the card just grows and grows and is fucking NUTS.

Come blame me when theres 5+ injuries and Couture and Toney rematch for the main event.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 10, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

That promise will be empty

He thought we wouldn’t remember. But again maybe 120 is the little gem for the fans.

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by Alex Grad on Jul 10, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's joking if Bisping/Akiyama is seriously a "gem" when he puts up free London shows every year

And the main events for the Spike shows in England are getting progressively worse.

CroCop/Gonzaga -— Rampage/Hendo (title fight, no counterprogram motive IIRC) -—- Bisping/Leben -——- Sanchez/Stevenson -——- Couture/Vera -——— Bisping/Akiyama

Granted the Bisping/Sexyama fight could be a great one, but that can’t be the big fight.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, if Dana is "promising" a big fight for free to make up for the UFC 112 main event

I hope he saves one of them up for a future card, because UFC 120 has a bunch of fights that just scream “Spike”.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just want to see

another show in Dallas, and bring it to Cowboys stadium.

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats where this fight should've taken place

Cain in Texas would be huge considering half of dallas is Hispanic.

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by AfroSamurai on Jul 10, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pfffft, dude socal is like 80% Hispanic

by kanodogg on Jul 10, 2010 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So who in LA wants the sign?

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by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I might be making the drive.

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you change your username?

You were Bob Boblaw, right?

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that was me, I just created a new account

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you do you got it son!

I'm better than you. Na na na boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Work has a way of fucking up anything fun so yeah we’ll see. Night crew?

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

fuck off is that tonight?

I'm better than you. Na na na boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 AM ET/12 AM PT.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I fucking hate driving, I remember being retarded and 16 driving EVERYWHERE now I fucking hate it

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya somewhere on the 5 all I could think of doing was this

Milford Sound in New Zealand

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by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally know what you mean

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, especially after smelly cow pasture, after smelly cow pasture. Then you get down near Bakersfield and you come a cross a stop light your body just goes in to shock " its like WTF were stopping, what are these….break lights huh…".

Kimbo wants to take your caterpiller and do bad things to it.

by Mr.Kib on Jul 10, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I high? Im pretty sure

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Loaded question I knew for certain I was half right, about the high part that is.

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

touche salesman I also have an Uncle

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

my mind exploded trying to figure out what you mean

I told you not to f*ck with me.

by Romoesbueno on Jul 10, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

the ex said something similar on her way out

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 10, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to 117 on the 7th

Just come meet me in the Bay Area

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Jul 10, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

ill be there for that in the nosebleeds

I'm better than you. Na na na boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can probably do it as well. I’ll be taking work off to go to the weigh-ins unless something crazy comes up.

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on Jul 10, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is no chance in hell that card happens like that

I will take any money anyone wants at +500 right now that the following fights don’t all go down on the same night:

Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez
Anderson Silva/Chael Sonnen vs. Vitor Belfort
Quinton “Rampage” Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida

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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 10, 2010 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

if Anderson just dances at 117 I wouldn’t be surprised if they put that card together

by Call-me-TBA on Jul 10, 2010 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's an outside chance Mazz could get the main event. or even BIG fucking JOHN

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

He made a request to not have Mazz ref it, the decision was left up to the NSAC

Same here, he could file a protest, but the SAC has the final say so. Dana doesn’t have as much say so in CA than he does in NV.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 10, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should post my Brock Smash picture again, but I’ll save it for when the fight gets closer (and when I can get it posted earlier in the comments- had to go see Predators tonight)

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by JeremyShane on Jul 10, 2010 1:31 AM EDT reply actions  

yus! im only an hr away....

Page/lesner on the same card has ppv bonanza written all over it. If (as I’m sure they will) the ufc plays up Cain’s Mexican heritage and gives page a forest/machine (I’m thinking the latter) than expect this to do somewhere between 1.25 & 1.5m easy. Brock, Page, & the ufc have never been more popular than they are now and both there last fights did 1m plus

by liquidation247 on Jul 10, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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