Is Brock Lesnar gonna have to choke a bitch?

the knee and the uppercut is what hurt him. By the time he was on the ground, he had pretty much recovered and was trying to block punches and stay active, praying the ref would see that he wasn’t hurt and was defended himself. He was waiting for Shane to gas out and fuck up by leaving him an opening which he did and Brock immediately sprang up.

There ya go. I think a lot of people are acting like the ref should have stopped it, and that Brock was somehow saved by the bell. In fact, he was clearly recovered, as he powered to his feet, cracked Shane with a big knee and was driving Carwin into the cage as the round ended…like a MAN!

If Shane picked his shots better instead of going batshit crazy he probably could have stopped Lesnar and won the belt. Instead he blew his whole wad and had nothing left. He made the same mistake Brock did in the first Mir fight. If Brock picked his shots a little better he would have TKO’d Frank after the first takedown probably. The big difference there is that Brock made this mistake in his 2nd MMA fight, whereas Shane made it in his 13th.

a true champion should be able to beat whatever challenger when both are at 100%.

And what about taking the guy out when he’s at 100% and you’re, say, only around 50%? Does that make you an even truer champion than the guy who’s fresh, kicking other fresh guys’ asses?

The first TD attempt, Carwin caught him with a hook coming in which messed up the shot and then the 2nd takedown was after being hit by shots. Brock started too slow. I wouldn’t say he was “dominated standing” as Carwin hit maybe 6 or 7 shots on the feet, but he did look bad.

Lesnar’s chin helped him just like Nog’s chin, just like Fedor’s chin, like Ali’s chin. But Lesnar does it and he’s lucky. It was clear that with about 3 mins left in the first round, Lesnar was biding his time.

As for your notion that both have to be 100%, that’s retarded. You’re not 100% after the 1st second. Carwin was not the better fighter because he wasn’t the smarter fighter. Saying Lesnar’s chin was his saving grace is like saying Carwin’s power was his. Silva was getting beat by Lutter and Hendo in the 1st round before he came back. Lots of times champs have come back to win.

This is an illogical line of thinking.

I’ll agree that Brock isn’t at the level of a GSP or Anderson in terms of dominance, but to turn it around, that’s what makes Brock all the more impressive. He’s never claimed any technical mastery. In fact, he always says he a work in progress. And yet, he still wins, and still improves. And your statement about his titanium chin is completely in opposition to what the majority of people were saying about him before this fight. That was supposed to be his weakness. And ask Shane Carwin how easy it was to shake off that single takedown attempt… The problem for the HW’s is that you should’ve beaten him yesterday, cause it’s only going to get more difficult.

Quite a bit of Carwin’s GnP landed to Brock’s arms, but there were some brutal shots that got through, both to the head and body.

How could you not be impressed by that resiliency? I’m more impressed by that than if he would’ve taken him down and GnP’d him in the 1st.

after choking someone out (even though he tapped before he went out) at least enter sandman makes more sense

Lesnar is a work in progress that happens to be the HW champ (he didn’t have a very hard road to get this shot, that’s for sure.)

Didn’t have a very hard road? He beat Herring like a baby seal, stopped a legend if there ever was one (Couture), made Frank Mir look like a 0-0 amateur and took a steady beating from the guy with the heaviest hands in the division only to come back and choke him out? If that’s an easy road, I sure as hell don’t want to know what would qualify as ‘hard’ – and dare you to name someone who has had a hard road.

He is the best because he won. Doesn’t matter how he looked doing it. Just matters that he won. Isn’t that all that matters in sports?

sometimes, hell often; in fighting, weathering a storm anyway you can is more important than whatever pretty technique you dream up for him to whip out in order to fullfill what your “standards” would be

He is the best b/c he is the HW champ of the strongest HW div out there and will continue to be called that until he is beaten, that is how it works

It don’t have to be pretty to be a win.

is one of the stupidest things I have ever read here on BE.

is their willingness to engage in revisionist history.

If you don’t beat Anderson Silva or GSP now then obviously you aren’t a great fighter.

Nice.

It’s like he listened. He wasn’t hunched over and had his hands up high. I was very surprised.

I think that Brock not going out killed him inside. Kinda like Apollo in Rocky, i’s like “Geez, what do I have to hit him with?” I was very very shocked that Lesnar’s chin was that remarkable. I knew it would be good (i’ve seen him get hit with a steel chair straight up), but that good against the best power puncher? No way.

I made that this morning and I’ve probably watched it 30 times and everytime I stil get goosebumps (primarily because I won a nice clip of cash from it). I actually restole my own idea as I made a Castillo/Corrales video with the same concept years ago.

you know… it did “cut it”. What other striker is going to come along that Brock would have as much trouble taking down?

I’m over the fight. 3 weeks ago.

HE WON BITCHES. Deal with it.