DREAM.15 Betting Odds
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Tatsuya Kawajiri (26-5-2) -125 vs. Shinya Aoki (23-5) -105
Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante (14-3-1) -255 vs. Katsunori Kikuno (13-2-2) +205
Melvin Manhoef (24-7-1) -650 vs. Tatsuya Mizuno (7-5) +400

Gegard Mousasi (28-3-1) -400 vs. Jake O'Brien (13-3) +300
Karl Amoussou (11-2-2) -115 vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura (14-10) -115
Michihiro Omigawa (10-8-1) vs. Young Sam Jung (0-2)

Mitsuhiro Ishida (18-6-1) -195 vs. Daiki "DJ.taiki" Hata (11-6-3) +155
Alistair Overeem (33-11) vs. Ricco Rodriguez (42-11) [rumored]
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O'brien may not be a bad bet against Mousasi
He could take him down and lay on him like he did with Herring. Mousasi looked horrible against the takedown with King Mo.
I've got JOB all day
This is a stacked card (yes, this is the real Subo, no, I didn’t lose a bet)
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 5, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
picking Amoussou is almost like stealing candy
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by keyboardwarrior on Jul 6, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I don’t think that is a great bet at all.
Nakamura may not be as exciting or dynamic, but he is fully capable of putting Amoussou on his butt and keeping him there. Amoussou reminds me a lot of Mousasi in that he has a lot of great offense but his ability to control where the fight takes place leaves something to be desired.
As if all wrestlers are created equal...
I’m amazed at how many people are drawn offsides by this bout. Lawal’s wrestling is arguably the best in the division and just skim over O’Brien’s credentials at Purdue to see that there really is no comparison between these two. Jake isn’t half the wrestler Mo is.
I agree that JOB isn’t as good as Lawal, but Lawal handled Mousasi with such ease it is not unreasonable to assume a lesser wrestler could do the same thing.
yes it is
Thats like saying because Anderson Silva destroyed Rich Franklin on the feet with such ease, its not unreasonable to think that a lesser striker such as Matt Hammil could do the same.
See what I did there? Lawal is maybe the best wrestler in the LHW division, so when he makes someone look so foolish with their takedown defense, its not always because that person, Mousasi, has such bad defense. Its probably because Lawal is that good of a wrestler.
Jake O’brien only wrestled at Perdue for 2 years, and his sophmore year, according to wiki says he went 14-18. That is very pedestrian for a D1 wrestler, and hardly the credentials of a three-time U.S. Senior National Wrestling Champion.
but but you just compared a wrestler and a striker
hammil has lesser striking, but he is a wrestler at heart. A better comparison would be… Okami and munoz maybe? i don’t know.
by Body Triangle on Jul 7, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Mo want using any sort of special technique for a lot of those takedowns...
Mo was gassed and was just grabbing and pulling. Mousasi’s TD defense in that fight was plain terrible. I don’t know that I’d bet against him here, but I can see why people would think he would be laid on.
If you think that is what will happen, it is not an outragous wager IMO.
I personally think JOB has to finish the fight to win it and I don’t see that happening. Laying in Mousasi’s gaurd won’t be enough as Mousasi is very busy off his back. Japanese judges don’t tend to favour wrestling the way North American judges do.
Mo has ko power which makes his takedowns even more effective. Job does not have the same power or speed of mo.
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by ekc on Jul 5, 2010 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so we're a week out
from the fight, and the main event is still just rumored? weird.
but i’m pumped for this card. really does looked stacked. add me to the list of people who think O’Brien pulls the upset.
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Yep.
…and I am looking forward to that one.
Crusher winning could set up a very entertaining match between him and Gil
oh
duhr … sorry. i thought the ’reem would be the main event.
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by bobthewriter on Jul 5, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i thought that too, didn’t Overeem say something about wanting to tour with EA thats why he wasnt fighting on this card?
Forgive me if I’m wrong.
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yep
He denied he’s having the fight, and dream denied that he denied anything
by Body Triangle on Jul 7, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions

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by Damon O. on Jul 5, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
here's the big secret.
He’s this guy…

has your head exploded yet?
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 5, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand now...
He claims he hates the UFC so people will defend it, thus making there belief that the UFC will succeed greater!!
i really, really hate
that pic with Captain Puerto Rico in it.
Steve Rogers is Cap, dammit.
/my lawn, get off it.
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by bobthewriter on Jul 5, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Commander Steve Rogers: Super Soldier, disagrees with you...

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Actually
The book is just Steve Rogers: Super Soldier, and he goes by Captain Steve Rogers, not Commander.
Oops, I spilled some nerd on you!
Secret Avengers #002, His team refers to him as Commander.
Yea, we’re doing this.
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I'll try to break it down
The reason they call him commander is because he is in command of them (the Secret Avengers). Unless you’re a Secret Avenger, I’ll assume you’re not, he’s Captain Steve Rogers.
That is all.
Actually
It’s because he’s a Field Commander :), and I am a Secret Avenger. How do you think I got so good with GIFs?
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This will be my first chance to join the BE Night Crew.
Looking forward to that.
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by Earl Montclair on Jul 5, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Great card
And finally in a Ring again.
But Manhoef is gonna kill the poor guy.
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by Thats It For you! on Jul 7, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
awesome card, love Dream. Also great to see strikeforce fighters representing
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
speaking of DREAM.15,
I’m ashamed to even try making a liveblog poster for this one, cause their poster is just too muuuuch awesome…

i am in love with this poster.
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by ekc on Jul 5, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Aoki’s cheekbones are just begging to be punched.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 7, 2010 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont understand how people say this is a stacked card
aoki v kawajiri is the only fight with top ten fighters
everything else is a good fighter vs a medicore fighter or 2 mid tier fighters
im all for watching it because ill watch regional mma if i can find it on tv (or online) but if this was a ufc card people would be bull*&^% with the mismatches and lack of elite fighters
How many top 10 fighters were on the UFC 116 card?
People are saying it is a stacked card because it is stacked with good fights. Much like UFC 116, a lot of these fights look to be barn burners between equally matched competition. That is a rarity in Japanese MMA recently.
dont get me wrong im excited to see it but i dont see more then a few of these fights being really competitive
but i think sexyama vs leban was going to be such a barn burner either
by Richard Doughty on Jul 5, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
what'd ya think was gonna happen?
I was majorly looking forward to that fight…granted, its no wandy/akiyama or even wandy/lebn (soo muuuuuch wiiin)…but that was going to be a great fight!
by Body Triangle on Jul 7, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s got two top 10 LWS fighting for the title, two top 25 LWs fighting for the right to be the number 1 contender, three other top 10 fighters in bouts at HW, LHW, and FW and the always exciting Manhoef and Ammoussou. And while it’s almost impossible to compare to the UFC’s talent-level, even UFC 115 had only 1 top 10 fighter, Paulo Thiago, on the whole card while 116 had two. This card is stacked.
by John Nash on Jul 5, 2010 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You crazy.
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by Ephemeral Artery on Jul 5, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the UFC has most Top fighters under control..
they are rightfully held to a higher standard.
I’m also expecting Golden Boy Promotions to put on more quality fights than “Average Joe Promotions” somewhere in West Virginia.
And DREAM.15 has 5 Top 10 fighters on the card:
Aoki
Kawajiri
Overeem
Omigawa
Mousasi
I LOVE this card
Kawajiri
Kikuno
Manhoef
Mousasi
Amoussou
Omigawa
Ishida
Overeem
Mervin Mannuhup!!! FTW
Why is Omigawa fighting a winless can?
I know Omigawa is a lot better than his record, to the point where maybe he’s even earned an easy fight to get himself a little further above the .500 mark, but come on, fighting a dude who doesn’t even have any wins? That’s the sort of thing that should be officially labeled “non-competitive,” and why Japan needs a regulatory agency that isn’t just for show.
Other than that the card looks solid.
i hope a aoki gets his ass kicked cuz i want him to cry again
Mike Green in regular season- Norris Canadiate. Mike Green in Playoffs- Nowhere to be found
i want him to make blanket statements
about how he’s fighting for MMA of Japan, and if he loses, its all over.
Thats it, pack it up Japan. That’s right, Aoki said it.
by Body Triangle on Jul 7, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/07/05/alistair-overeem-clears-air-will-not-compete-at-dream-15/
MMA Fighting spoke to Rodriguez’s agent, Ken Pavia, on Saturday, Pavia still maintained that the fight was a go and all plans were in place for Rodriguez’s trip to Japan.
Does that make any sense?
The fighter himself says no, but Pavia is still taking his guy over there?
http://www.instrength.com
Probably can’t charge any money if he doesn’t fly out with Ricco and act all surprised when they get to Japan.
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Like DREAM is going to pay them?
Good luck with that.
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Seems open to return to the company in the future though.
Have all these guys been told yet that they’re fighting Saturday?
by ufc4 on Jul 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i love the 20 min intros, the VTR and entrances is something that the ufc can take notes from.
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by Thats It For you! on Jul 7, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t it a little weird that the Overeem Rodriguez fight is still listed as “rumored” even as BE has articles explaining why this fight isn’t happening?
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
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by The Lethal Haze on Jul 7, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
I wish they could have founnd a way to keep Ricco on the card
just not against Overeem
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I’m not surprised that the odds are close for the Kawajiri vs. Aoki fight. Kawajiri is on a four fight winning streak that includes a victory over Gesias Cavalcante, but he hasn’t fought yet in 2010. Aoki has fought against tougher competition recently and has fought in 2010, but that was a tough loss to Gilbert Melendez. It’s too close to call and it’ll be interesting to see how the loss to Melendez has affected Aoki’s performance.
Melvin Manhoef’s opponent isn’t exaclt a tough one, Miuzuno is far too inexperienced to go against the frenzied attack of Manhoef. Also, only one of Mizuno’s fights has made it past the first round. Knowing that Mizuno doesn’t like to hold out for decisions will be good for Manhoef because we all know he’s capable of gassing.
Also, I don’t get why people think Mousasi will lose to Jake O’Brien. Jake’s only notable victory was against Heath Herring in 2007. He hasn’t proven himself to be a top drawer wrestler in MMA either as he lost in the first round to Cain Velasquez (was Cain’s fourth professional fight and he hadn’t fought high quality fighters at that point). Mousasi has far more experience, has only lost once in 16 fights and has had a better range of opponents.
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O’Brien at +300? Get on that shit!!!
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