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Was Brock Lesnar's Comeback at UFC 116 the "Best Moment" of the Event?

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Tomas Rios puts it at the top of his list:

After losing for the first time in some 10 years, Fedor Emelianenko famously said "The man who doesn’t fall, doesn’t stand up."

On Saturday night, Brock Lesnar fell and he fell hard. Shane Carwin’s freakish punching power looked like it was too much for the supposedly unstoppable South Dakotan freight train. Both standing and on the mat, Lesnar ate everything Carwin had to offer for nearly five full minutes.

It was near the five minute mark that Lesnar did what no one had done after taking Carwin’s best shot -- he stood up. Now that this most unlikely of UFC heavyweight champions has secured his place atop the division, there is a certain poetic justice to him living up the words of his predecessor.

This is mine as well.

Let's not mince words: UFC 116 was a brilliant event. That isn't to say the event was perfect or above reproach. There are plenty of valid criticisms to be made. But that was as entertaining as it was paradigm shifting.

Brock Lesnar is a legitimate cultural phenomenon. As it was discussed on Twitter last night amongst media and fans, when was the last time boxing put together an event between heavyweights that over delivered? UFC is reigniting interest in heavyweight fighting or at least helping to cultivate a new generation of fight fans accustomed to seeing heavyweight fighting positioned as the most coveted.

Let us also not forget Shane Carwin brought the thunder to Lesnar in spectacular fashion. Most sober individuals will easily score round one 10-8 for Carwin. My 10-7 is arguably a touch strong especially considering there were moments in the first round where Lesnar clearly scored in addition to several key moments where he defended very ably. Regardless, that was a monumental pounding in the first round. I could barely watch Carwin nimbly and forcibly pin Lesnar's hips to the mat with knee on belly. I'm hardly squeamish, but the crack of Carwin's elbows make even the hardened MMA fan look away. I could not believe Lesnar was able to withstand that kind of imposition. But he did and he fought back.

UFC 116 was a home run in the most meaningful entertainment and sporting way. I take Snowden's criticism that we weren't watching sophisticated technique as fair, but not particularly topical. This isn't the Ultimate Technique Championship or Mixed Martial Techniques. We are watching sport fight and whoever wins in sports fighting is the best. Besides, isn't this the same criticism he faced in collegiate wrestling? Lesnar is finding ways to win and that's what matters. You're not going to see Lesnar hit arm-drag backtakes, but you are going to see hand raised at the end of the fight. There are liabilities to that style, but that doesn't diminish it's offensive potency.

This event seems like the kind that will do more buys than normal in the days following the fight. I'm sure it's done respectable ppv numbers, but this is the kind where those who missed get intrigued by the buzz. It's also the kind of event that makes the job of MMA lobbying to sports audiences a lot easier.

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Great article, nice to read someone who actually enjoys MMA for what it is, and isn’t stuck in the good ol’ days of Pride

glaring at JS

by flingom on Jul 4, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The place I was doing security at gets the fights pretty regular and it was an absolute zoo last night.

by penxv on Jul 4, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

For me the Lesnar win was the best moment of the night. But I say that as a Lesnar fan. There are very few fighters I really root for hard and Brock is one of them, usually I just want to see a great fight and decide who to root for sometimes as the fighters are walking out or in the days leading up to the fight (as was the case with the Leben fight)

Leben would be my runner up. It was crazy seeing him take those shots and wobble but not fall down and just keep coming forward. I really wanted him to win with the way he took the fight on short notice and just fought a couple weeks ago and Akiyama didn’t want to fight him at first. And in that third, I thought the fight was even until Akiyama laid on him so long. I was thinking, crap, he’s going to get the nod. When Leben pulled out the sub, the place (and me) went crazy.

But it was nothing compared to Lesnar. From looking virtually finished in round one, to getting up and not looking as bad as the guy that had been on top throwing the punches when the round ended. And not only coming back, but doing so with a submission like he did. It was awesome.

by JeremyShane on Jul 4, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

It certainly ranks up there...

At first.. I literally thought there was no way anyone would beat the Bonnar comeback… Leben shows up and steals the thunder.. I admitted.. It was a justified shift of light in Leben’s favor..

But the Lesnar fight I think steals the show because the dynamic of the fight showed more surprise than it’s predecessors on the same card.. Brock and Carwin both had questions lingering before the fight.. The majority of them were answered to satisfaction. The Lesnar comeback sealed the deal about Lesnar’s questions.. His comeback was no different than Big Nog’s storied carreer.. Fedor’s career.. The things we praise other great champions for.. Their ability to endure adversity and find a way to win when it’s all on the line.. Brock proved he is a champion in every sense of the word.

Can we bag on him for “technical deficiency” in striking ?? Sure.. But what’s the point ?? He went toe-to-toe with a guy that 12 other professional fighters couldn’t do and beat him after taking his best shots..

Lesnar stole the show in more ways than one, IMO..

 

8-29-09

Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..

by MMAuthority on Jul 4, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice Aricle Luke

Your play by play was one of the highlights of the night, just EPIC!!!

I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...

by xAtlasx on Jul 4, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed..some massive moments on this card

batman coming out to eminem was terrible
bonnar finally winning a fight again was improbable
chris leben triangle is definitely a huge WTF moment
matt brown nearly d’arcing lytle was crazy
brocky making the mother of all comebacks and subbing carwin was incredulous and insane
and of course dana had a huge smile and a huger woody after tops everything off!

You must defeat me to stand a chance.

by Gouken on Jul 4, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome sig and username combo!

And I agree wholeheartedly about the show – tons of fun!

by asa on Jul 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Let's not mince words: UFC 116 was a brilliant event."

No doubt about it.
The prelims on Spike were amazing:

Seth vs Romero was a war. Too bad Seth gassed. Romero must be related to George A. because he has got some Zombie blood in him.

Speaking of Zombies, Akyama and Leben were just out on their feet swinging.

The other fights on Spike were great too. Harris’s slam KO is gonna be one of the all time great HLs.

It was awesome seeing Bonnar come back and get a good win. Not to mention the great Soto and Ltyle fights.

But I gotta agree, Lesnar coming back was really crazy to see. He seemed done. But when he came out in the second round smiling and then got the take down it was just like “uh-oh.” I still never thought he would submit Carwin. That is one of the things that makes it so epic. No one predicted a sub. I thought he was either gonna get the TKO or just begin grinding on Carwin as the fight wore on.

Epic night of fights. Zuffa has been putting on great cards. UFC 113-116 were great cards, each one getting progressively better. Hopefully Anderson comes and actually fights at UFC 117.

by fozo2 on Jul 4, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

We need to get a GIF of Branch's face when he went out, a KTFO Damon Wayans

This card was top to bottom incredible. The double hulksmash hammerfists by Petruzelli?

Does anyone think Seth gets a second shot? Romero was the heavy favorite and got by on heart. Seth’s adrenaline dumped big time, probably due to being on spike for the UFC in his shot back. The world’s eyes on him. If he can read this, you did awesome Seth!

Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down

by Austin Martin on Jul 4, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Branch/Harris was kinda dull

But the KO was wicked.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 4, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deo

Can you find a GIF of Branch’s face when he got knocked out. It looked like a movie reaction shot. Knocked stupid

Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down

by Austin Martin on Jul 4, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is awesome.

Damn indeed.

RIP, Coach Wooden.

Thank you, Geoff Petrie.

by JETisKing on Jul 4, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i wish i could zoom in on the top one. Thats the "Did i just get powerbombed unconscious face

Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down

by Austin Martin on Jul 4, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a great angle on that slam

where you can see Joe Silva’s look of horror right before Harris pulls up in that hammerfist.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 4, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Silva loves the perks of his job.

Guillotine.

by iiowyn on Jul 4, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on Jul 5, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

great reffing

The ref was perfectly on top of things here as well, and prevented Branch from getting Hendo’d while helpless.

by loydb on Jul 4, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same.

That was great when Bonnar won. I’m glad I was wrong with my prediction. I’ll always have a soft spot for that guy.

by pud333 on Jul 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I despise Bonnar

But he won me over a bit with that one. The Pose made it that much better.

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by Damon O. on Jul 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you despise him?

Win or lose he always brings the fight.

by fozo2 on Jul 4, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Fake Emcee said "the always never improving Stephan Bonnar"

I don’t think he really deserves to be in the UFC as far as skill and attributes go. TUF love.

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@deowade

by Damon O. on Jul 4, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as that goes, yeah, you’re right, but I like the guy. He’ll probably have some role with the UFC for the rest of his life based solely on his first fight with Forrest.

by pud333 on Jul 4, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see him do commentary or some form of public speaking for the UFC.

by AHutch on Jul 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, yea, that was another big moment in the hooters we were at. The Leben Sub, the Lesnar sub and his KO…but I think his pose with his beaten face got a bigger pop than the KO in the bar.

by JeremyShane on Jul 4, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap I think I have Deo beat

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This event seems like the kind that will do more buys than normal in the days following the fight. I’m sure it’s done respectable ppv numbers, but this is the kind where those who missed get intrigued by the buzz.

It’s also going to have a halo effect on the next event. Just as UFC 101 outperformed expectations, I suspect UFC 117 will do much better numbers than anticipated.

by Steve4192 on Jul 4, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I was chearing for Carwin, but I'm glad Lesnar won.

Lesnar winning and being the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world is probably the best thing for the sport right now. It’s awesome. The buzz in the whole bar I was at was amazing. People were screaming out during the entire fight. Awesome night of fights. Awesome.

by pud333 on Jul 4, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

It was an exciting fight sure.

I just can’t believe how many people seem to think the homer simpson method of letting your opponent beat you until he gets too tired to beat you any more so you can then take advantage is a viable tactic for someone with a belt rather than someone on the undercard. And the only way this is in anyway defended is “oh well heavy weight sucks anyway”.

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

did you not see the rumble in the jungle?

by kanodogg on Jul 4, 2010 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 4, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is saying it's a viable tactic..

I doubt anyone would say that Brock’s camp came with a plan of letting a guy with seriously heavy hands bang on you for 3+ minutes straight and throw 75 + punches was in their “strategy guide”..

It’s reflective of Brock’s heart and attitude as a fighter and a competitor.. He didn’t quit when he was at his worse and showed massive heart to stand back up to take more of what the other guy was offering..

8-29-09

Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..

by MMAuthority on Jul 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't think it was a pre-fight stratefy

It was an adjustment Lesnar made during the fight.

Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump

by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 4, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If people honestly think that Brock “planned” on getting pounded on for damn near five minutes in hopes of him getting tired, then they’re nuts. Brock just survived off his back and took advantage of the obvious. Everyone saw that Carwin was going to punch himself out, and Brock was coherent enough to catch on. He made the best out of a terrible situation.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 4, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he went in there with his horrible horrible striking and awful defense off his back and expected what to happen if carwin didn’t get tired?

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say he planned more on gassing Carwin out with wrestling and leaning on him against the cage more than by letting him punch him in the face. Usually boxers say your punching power goes to shit when you wrestle just a little bit and since Shane hasn’t been out of round one; I’d be that’s what he was thinking. But ask Brock…I don’t know what his gameplan was and I damn sure didn’t know it was going to contain an arm triangle.

by JeremyShane on Jul 4, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you think that his defense on his back was bad, you’re a bigger fool than as you’ve been showing in the above comments. Not many people could survive through all that beating Carwin was doing. And Brock was really hit flush only a handful of times, let’s not act like brock just stuck his chin out there and said hit me.

His biggest issue was backing up straight, rather than circling. And thats something that just comes with practice, and experience.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 4, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

surviving a vicious beating is in no way indicative of good defense. Its like saying Leben is a good boxer because he gets punched in the face a lot and doesn’t get knocked out. Lesnar was lucky carwin’s ground and pound was so sloppy. Compare to george sotoropilous

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wtf?

Compare Brock to George? Or Carwin?

Either way, you have completely gone off the rails. Since when would you compare the technique of lightweights to heavyweights?

How is that like Goulet? That dude goes out cold in a drafty room - Blackout612

by Well Read Idiot on Jul 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's clear

that dude has no idea what he’s talking about, as this thread has shown.

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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Carwin’s offence from on top to george’s. Carwin is sloppy as hell.

Since when would you compare the technique of lightweights to heavyweights?

Since when wouldn’t you. Its not like they have different internal organs.

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is news to you

but smaller men are generally more coordinated than bigger men. You know, cuz they have less mass to move.

by Electro Boy on Jul 4, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is news to you but professional athletes shouldn’t have shit technique

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mute the tv

Rewatched the fight a few times muted. Lesnar took a big uppercut standing, and 5 direct shots to the face while on the ground. The rest of the shots went off his limbs, back, or chest. And you know WHY so many shots missed his head?

Because Carwin is a bad striker? No.

Because Lesnar managed to put himself into the best possible position to weather the storm? Yes.

Rogan and Goldy were derelict in their duties last night by only yelling, “UnbeLIEVable,” and getting caught up in the drama of the round. It’s a forgivable offense, of course. But turn them down, watch it again, and count he head shots.

And, let’s also take into account that so many of the shots on the ground, esp. near the end of the onslaught, were arm punches because A.) Carwin punched himself out and 2.) Lesnar positioned himself as well as he could to keep his head outside of Carwin’s most dangerous range.

If you want to see a clinic on how to survive, watch that round again.

by argyle on Jul 4, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that when you plan on letting the other fighter punch themselves out, it necessarily means they intend to let them do that on their face.

by JeremyShane on Jul 4, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that really the plan though? Letting Carwin punch himself out is a high risk strategy. Like the biggest risk because they can’t possibly have thought oh let him get tired, its not like he will hurt anyone.

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course it wasnt the plan

‘let the biggest power puncher in the sport punch you for the whole first round brock, trust me it will work’

doesn’t really sound feasible does it?

How is that like Goulet? That dude goes out cold in a drafty room - Blackout612

by Well Read Idiot on Jul 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It was a kind of bizarre fight is what I’m saying. This thread was a lot bigger until a mod deleted most of the comments.

I was making the point that it was a terrible win and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a belt holder use the homer simpson method of taking a vicious beating until the other guy is too tired to do anything to win a fight. I think they both looked awful and they both have terrible striking and bad wrestling for mma and the only way they get away with it is because they fight at heavy weight. JDS, Cain or even gonzaga would wreck Lesnar. That’s not even taking into consideration overeem or god help us the russian who must not be named lest unrelated pointless squabbles instantly begin.

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob Sapp vs. Big Nog seemed a lot like the Homer Simpson method to me…

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by s.r.genovese on Jul 4, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you don’t know much about mma. Nog takes beating to set up submissions. He doesn’t take beatings so they other guy will get tired. I’ve never seen fedor get wailed on so he could take advantage of exhaustion.

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The irony... oh the irony...
Nog takes beating to set up submissions. He doesn’t take beatings so they other guy will get tired.

Follow pdl in starting an “ignore list”….

glassjaw… check…

8-29-09

Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..

7-3-10

BROCKLESNARRRR!!!!

by MMAuthority on Jul 4, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So the fact that submissions are a lot easier to hit on guys who are tired has nothing to do with it?

Right.

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by s.r.genovese on Jul 4, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The longer a fight goes it gets more difficult because of sweat. That is unless a guy is totally out of it and just lies there like carwin. Offhand Sylvia was beating nog until he got submitted, he wasn’t out of it. Mirko was beating not until he got submitted. He wasn’t out of it due to exhaustion. Big difference.

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you’d rolled before, you’d know that while yes, sweat makes some things more difficult to perform, overall, it is a lot easier to hit on a guy who has been fighting/rolling for the past 10 or 15 minutes than a guy who is completely fresh.

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by s.r.genovese on Jul 4, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wear just shorts instead of your angry pyjamas and try it. Every submission fighter ever commented on how much more difficult sweat makes submission. Why last week Werdum commented that he had better get fedor in round 1 or he would never catch him due to being too slippery.

Across most of nog’s fights the other guy was still in it. You can cherry pick Sapp but consider say Nog’s last five wins.

Last night was a crap win no matter how anyone tries to sell it as a comeback. The other guy has to actually be in the fight for there to be a comeback. All we learned was Lesnar can take a beating and more of those are in his future but against guys who are technically much better than carwin

by glassjaw on Jul 4, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your guy lost, the guy you hate won. Get over it.

by argyle on Jul 4, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And besides that, Bob Sapp did look like Carwin when he got submitted. So yes, Big Nog has performed the ‘Homer Simpson Method.’

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by s.r.genovese on Jul 4, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus

He didn’t take beatings to set up submissions. He took beatings AND he set up submissions. They are independent events.

by argyle on Jul 4, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brock was simply surprised by the power of Carwin

because it’s impossible to simulate. The power completely stunned him, but it never put him out. He weathered a storm of damage that would have probably stopped almost any heavyweight fighter on the planet. A relatively low percentage of shots landed, but some absolutely fucking brutal ones did. The massive elbow right on the jaw in particular comes to mine. That was an incredible power shot, and it didn’t stop Brock. None of the shots did. Maybe you hadn’t noticed, but Shane Carwin is a pretty fucking brutal and efficient finisher. As in, 12 straight first round stoppages brutal. He hurt Brock, he even rocked Brock, but he never, ever stopped him. Apparently, and unsurprisingly, Brock Lesnar is an incredibly difficult dude to put out. Lesnar showed a championship level of toughness and a Fedor-esque ability to come back from serious damage. So cut the “homer simpson strategy” bullshit. It’s called overcoming adversity. It’s the truest mark of a champion.

by Trysdor on Jul 4, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

of course it wasn't planned

Brock got hit by something he’s never been hit by. He stayed in it and he showed heart that many people wouldn’t have thought he had. That’s why it was a great fight. Brock Lesnar showed the world that he’s a true FIGHTER. People like to see the underdog win, and he may not have been the underdog coming in to the fight, but he became the underdog the moment he took that uppercut. He overcame the onslaught and that’s why it was the best moment of the night.

by Drizzy on Jul 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

great perspective!

thanks luke.

i do wonder if all things considered, it was a mistake to not make a fight between Cain and JDS, and to make it the co-main event. obviously that would have derailed a potential contender, which the UFC is wary of doing. but on the plus side it may have been huge building early anticipation in the next lesnar mega-fight.

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by GregS123 on Jul 4, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they are better served doing what they did. By not having those two fight. The HW division is not like other divisions where there can be a ready crop of contenders. Beyond those two, and maybe Roy Nelson, there’s not much else in terms of contention. Also, imagine if Brock got past Cain and JDS. That means he’ll have run through Couture, Mir, Carwin, Cain and JDS in terms of title fights. That’s very impressive if he can do that.

by pud333 on Jul 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care what anyone says

That would be the most impressive 5 fight run of all time.

by Trysdor on Jul 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed!

Any other heavyweight face that caliber of opponents in such a short time? NUTS

by Body Triangle on Jul 5, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a great night of fights.

You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.

by WestbergIDFC on Jul 4, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Lesnar’s win was The Moment of UFC 116, but Leben’s win comes in a solid second. While Akiyama hasn’t exactly impressed me in the UFC, but he’s still a legit threat and for Leben to win two straight in less than a month has to be appreciated. I still don’t like ‘The Crippler’ but my hat’s off to him.

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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jul 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Well Said,

I really don’t get why Snowden bagged on the fight for being untechnical. Who the hell ever thought it would be technical? Of course it wasn’t technical!

But just because someone doesn’t have great technique, doesn’t mean they are bad (or unimpressive) fighters.

by jhf884 on Jul 4, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Night.

The main event lived up to what I thought was a little bit of over hype. Neither guy is at the “pinnacle” of their potential, and at their age I’m not sure either guy will ever get there. Starting MMA in your late 20’s, early 30’s is not a “prime time” to become an elite MMA specilaist, but both these guys showed they can be good/great HW contenders if given some time.

As for Carwin, he gassed after he went for the kill, and it showed he has a long way to go in his cardio to end a guy like Lesnar, you just can’t fall off that quick in only the first round (THE FIRST ROUND). With that said, Carwin is a LEGIT HW and with a few tweeks in his training he will be right back in there with Brock or whomever is the champ by the end of next summer (if he stays healthy).

Then you have Brock who just showed that he can take a shot from possibly the hardest puncher (and maybe elbower, ok, so elbower is not a word, but it sounded good) in all of MMA. We all thought Brock had a suspect jaw, and being able to take the shots he took and get up from that beating in the first round and end the fight with a SUBMISSION of all things was awsome. Brock’s striking is still very suspect and against a guy with better cardio he may not win this fight. I would also say he needs to work on his defense from his back (maybe try to pull guard), but this is nit picking.

Both guys still have some holes (some bigger than others), but I would love to see these two go again, and I hope it happens again before the end of 2011, because that may be the biggest UFC (or MMA) event ever. One last thing this whole card was very solid and in my book was the best UFC PPV to date this year (even all three Spike prelims).

by JustinWF on Jul 4, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Shane Carwin with Cain's cardio probably wins that fight

But Shane Carwin with Cain’s cardio is also probably the greatest fighter in the universe, so it’s kind of a moot point.

by Trysdor on Jul 4, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

if my grandmother had wheels

she’d be a streetcar.

Train hard, fight smarter.

by Asator on Jul 4, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good read.

I totally agree with this.

This isn’t the Ultimate Technique Championship or Mixed Martial Techniques. We are watching sport fight and whoever wins in sports fighting is the best.

RIP, Coach Wooden.

Thank you, Geoff Petrie.

by JETisKing on Jul 4, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Exhaustion, sounded like his body was suffering pretty bad after round one. Just checking him out to make sure he’s healthy.

From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 4, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

he said

he was just getting checked out (via twitter) – precautionary stuff

by SNATCHFACE on Jul 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Well said

Finding a way to win is the mark of a champion.

I have accepted BROCKLESNARRRRRR!!!!!!! as my personal Heavyweight Champion!
Baptized in Coors Light and Jack's Links jerky!!!
Dressed in my heavenly DeathClutch robes!!!

by Worldisart on Jul 4, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 4, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

goooooooooooood comment

rec’d

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein"
- Goonisis

by Goonisis on Jul 4, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was the theme of the night...

include Leben and Bonnar on that score.

I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.

by Razreshat on Jul 4, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice take

The best I’ve read since the event on any of the MMA pages. Bottom line, it’s a fight, not a techniques demonstration, and sometimes the most impressive wins aren’t the prettiest.

by Dootch on Jul 4, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I still do not understand Fedor's quote

A man who doesn’t fall doesn’t stand up….

A man who doesn’t fall is already standing

by Jonnycaz2.0 on Jul 4, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Best Moment

Not in exact order, but I have my favorite moments (this was while I was watching at a bar with a couple hundred people)

1) Lesnar escaping the first round, then smiling, and in the 2nd choking out Carwin was epicly awesome.
2)Leben v Akiyama. That fight overall got the entire bar going. People were screaming the times Leben had submissions going, and were cheering when he got the successful triangle.
3) Bonnar finally getting a win. This one made my night because he deserves it. Yes he’s a sloppy kickboxer/muay thai fighter, but he’s MY slopping kickboxer/muay thai fighter.

by MMA42 on Jul 4, 2010 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I could hardly watch the fight a second time.

I hope Shane Carwin calls Dana White up on the phone as soon as he gets to watch the video and cusses Dana White out and leaves the UFC. That shit was absolutely crazy the way they would not stop the fight when they have stopped every fight up until this fight for much less ground and pound. A fighter was killed in SC just two weeks ago from punches to the head so you would think they would stop a fight instead of letting a fighter get punch into oblivion. I would love to see Carwin go to Strikeforce where he could be appreciated.

by Brian Massey on Jul 5, 2010 4:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Um, the NSAC provided the referee not the UFC.

Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate

by Richard Wade on Jul 5, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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