UFC on Versus 2: Jones vs. Matyushenko Weigh-in Results
by Nick Thomas on Jul 31, 2010 11:24 PM EDT
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Main bouts:HT: heavy.com
Jon Jones (206) vs. Vladimir Matyushenko (206)
Mark Munoz (185) vs. Yushin Okami (185)
John Howard (170.5) vs. Jake Ellenberger (170.5)
Tyson Griffin (154) vs. Takanori Gomi (156)
Preliminary bouts:
Paul Kelly (155) vs. Jacob Volkmann (156)
DaMarques Johnson (172)* vs. Matt Riddle (171)
James Irvin (205) vs. Igor Pokrajac (204.5)
Brian Stann (186) vs. Mike Massenzio (184)
Darren Elkins (154.5) vs. Charles Oliveira (154)
Rob Kimmons (185) vs. Steve Steinbeiss (185)
* Johnson originally weighed in at 172.5 pounds and failed to make weight on his second attempt. He will be fined 20% of his fight purse.
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"do you see them breaking up that shit sooner?" Typical Roman
"Your not gonna jab and shoulder roll your way away from Brock Lesnar; He is gonna fuck you." - Joe 'High as Fuck' Rogan
Ugh
These people make me ashamed to live in SD, and that’s hard to do…
Lets just say they are from El Cajon and you can be off the hook for them.
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I can only imagine El Cajon, Chula Vista, and PB all showed up. After, they’ll go hit up Chili’s for happy hour.
Let’s get some sliders, motherfucker!
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I forgot I opened this window in my browser and was like “where is that god-awful music coming from?”
it’s pretty damn bad.
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Herro.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
Oh
Herro Prease!
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rosedale reaper
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
its the lack of Sexyama
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by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Stann looks good at 185.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
He looks like he still isn’t back to normal.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
I am surprised he even lived through that cut
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
That is a lot of terrible tribal tattoos.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
beat me to it….only to be followed on the awful tat train by Irvin
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Srsly
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
+ Watch bigger than Flavor Flavs clock
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Skeletor
has finally left the building
I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...
Missed?
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
1.5 it looks like
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 31, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn, darkness didn't make weight :(
by Polyhedron on Jul 31, 2010 7:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
haha heard that too,,, Joe Rogn lives!!!
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
even in my comments he lives, jesus.
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Say it Goldie
CHRISTMAS
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
thank god
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking the exact same thing. I can’t remember seeing that before…at least not recently. We’ll see if he does tomorrow
by Steven Abbott on Jul 31, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomi looked huge.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rooting for Ellenberger in this one. Just don’t like Howard.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
Howard = one guy I don’t root for just because he’s from Mass.
by Chris Nelson on Jul 31, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
And now we probably never will.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
I heard soon
but he’s going to debut at MW next from what I hear
This dude with the Dale Earnhardt ’stache standing next to the scale is giving me the heebee jeebees for some reason
There's no depth to my shallowness.
THUNDER
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
granny man panties
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
My name is Mark Munoz… and I happen to enjoy wearing women’s panties.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
by Blackout612 on Jul 31, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jones fills out more and more each time I see him. What a scary d00d..
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
Was he breathing heavy during the staredown?
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 31, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
He’s got some rage or something pent up in him somewhere.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
\I’m a huge Bones fan, as I’m from the same area as he is, and I really expect him to destroy the Janitor. That said, I respect the hell out of Matyushenko
where you from?
i went to Union- Endicott high school and live in Ithaca. Jones stopped into the cornell wrestling center last year to roll with the judo and bjj club (i teach w/ a friend). It was one of the only days i missed and didnt get a chance to roll with him. big disappointment !
What the hell? Isn’t he supposed to talk to the main eventers?
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
They didn't have the talking budget for it.
Plus Jones looked like he was either about to die if he didn’t get hydrated, or he wanted to shatter vlad’s skull.
by Polyhedron on Jul 31, 2010 7:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jones was breathing heavy. Bad weight cut or excitement?
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
Excitement man. He looked like he wanted to rape and pillage
Slow Cooking! MMM-MMM GOOD!
"I Wanna Thank Joe Rogan!" - BJ Penn
Yeah
He is in smash mode
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones didn’t even look like he was in the same weight class as Vladdy. And Vladdy is a pretty decent sized 205 pounder who has fought at heavyweight.
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That’s what I was just telling my gf.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The crazy thing is he’s way taller and buffer.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Both him and Struve just keep filling out. Now if Struve can learn to throw a punch……
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
or block a punch with not his face
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I still have a lot of faith in him
I think he’s gonna be a force.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
or evade one.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones is too big for 205. He needs to start lifting heavy and punish the big boys. And Vlad is going to get heart-punched tomorrow.
Obviously, our understanding of the big bang and related cosmology is incomplete; therefore, we must pray to the water-walking zombie or burn in a pit of fire.
The next couple fights will show us. In the mean time, uber-LHW it is.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
his frame just looks like it’s begging for more muscle. He really is not very muscular at all. I mean he’s ripped and all, but if he stopped cutting to 205 and starting really lifting, he’s 245 easily.
Obviously, our understanding of the big bang and related cosmology is incomplete; therefore, we must pray to the water-walking zombie or burn in a pit of fire.
in a month or two.
Within 1-2 years 250+ will be much more natural for him.
I agree 100% he doesn’t look very muscular at all right now. He could gain 20 lbs before slowing down a bit.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And
that’s a lean 250. 250 of muscle, baby! Christ, he’s gonna be a monster by 2013 or so.
Obviously, our understanding of the big bang and related cosmology is incomplete; therefore, we must pray to the water-walking zombie or burn in a pit of fire.
Scary.
You have to think that he would be more explosive at solid, lean 250lbs with no cut than he his at a lanky 205, cutting 25-30 lbs.
Imagine the leap in skill and strength he could make in that time.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think as Jones gets older he'll have to move to HW.
Once he hits the 27-29 year old range, he’ll fill out even more.
Pain don't hurt...
He said he came into camp at 231
and you know he wasn’t fat.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
It might not even be up to him. He had to strip completely down to make 206. He might only have one or two more 206 fights after this one before he physically cannot safely make the weight.
Obviously, our understanding of the big bang and related cosmology is incomplete; therefore, we must pray to the water-walking zombie or burn in a pit of fire.
That's what its starting to look like.
He looked a little drained by the cut too. Nobody can be that lean and cut more than 25 lbs time after time. Like you said, in 1-2 more fight he may be trying to cut down from 240. He can do that, but he’ll pay the price.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he looks like he could get as big as overeem.
by Polyhedron on Jul 31, 2010 7:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No doubt at all
And he’s right in the prime years for putting on lean muscle mass. He is cutting too much weight in my opinion.
Obviously, our understanding of the big bang and related cosmology is incomplete; therefore, we must pray to the water-walking zombie or burn in a pit of fire.
IMO, it would be a good idea to start moving up now. Not only would he be able to put on more quality weight easier, but it’s easier to develop as a fighter in the heavyweight division. Within a couple more fights, Jones is going to face some very stern competition at 205 pounds that are frankly horrible stylistic matchups for him at this point in his career, when he’s still learning the basics and fleshing out his game. At heavyweight, the talent among the top guys really isn’t the same as it is at 205, and there’s a lot of guys who are quality fighters but not particularly great at any one skill. That would allow Jones to grow as a fighter much more effectively than at 205.
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"at 205 pounds that are frankly horrible stylistic matchups for him at this point in his career,"
I’m growing more and more convinced that this statement can’t possibly be true. Not totally convinced, but in the fights he has been in so far he has faced a decent cross section of MMA techniques and style and yet nothing has really put him in a bad spot.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
The best guy he has faced so far in his career is Brandon Vera. Next closest to that is Matt Hamill. Pretty soon, he’s going to be running into guys like Nogueira, Rampage, Rashad, Machida and Shogun.
That’s a completley different ball of wax than what he’s faced so far in his career. Brandon Vera and Matt Hamill are just good, solid 205 pounders. The guys he’s going to run into soon are the cream of the crop. Those aren’t the kind of guys you want to be fighting with only two years of MMA training under your belt.
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For the most part, they are for Jones
Machida could be a problem stylistically for Jones. That’s a fight I honestly can’t predict – it could be a great fight, or very one-sided for either guy.
Rua and Anderson would be very difficult fights, but those 3 are about it.
Jones would ruin Rampage, Griffin, Franklin, Little Nog or any of that level guys.
Rashad, were it a possibility, would potentially be a good fight, but probably pretty one-sided for Jones as well.
Unless the weight cut becomes too large to effectively overcome, he should begin dominating the division at LHW.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 31, 2010 11:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone with a good guard and a technical striking game is going to give Jones fits at this point. If Brandon Vera had any sort of a guard game, he would have taken Jones’ arm home with him as a trophy. If he posts his arm like that in guard against Machida, Rua, Nogueira, hell even Forrest Griffin, he’s getting tapped.
Remember, we’ve only seen Jones beat up Brandon Vera and Matt Hamill at this point. Those guys are solid, but they don’t offer a whole lot when you get right down to it. Neither does Vladdy. When he gets in there with the elite of the division, everything changes. He’s not just going to be able to toss these guys around and rag doll them. What’s going to happen when he has to go technique for technique with a guy like Nogueira?Machida?Shogun?
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I was replying...
to your point about styles giving him fits. I don’t see it happening.
There might be a guy, like Anderson Silva, who has physical capabilities the defy the who “styles make fights” concept, that would be a hard match up. Anderson’s speed and ability to judge distance are, in my opinion, just not things you can really train…hone, yes, but not train into a fighter.
However, I am quickly becoming of the opinion that you can’t say a guy with style/technique “X” is going to be the answer to Jones. I just don’t see it.
What will give him fits is someone just like him, fast and creative. Someone who could beat him to the punch and keep him off balance…but that really isn’t a style as much as it is a quality.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Jon Jones should cut to 170 along with James Irvin and then they can fight like two anatomy class skeletons
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
She is cute
What’s the black girl’s name? She is smoking.
Obviously, our understanding of the big bang and related cosmology is incomplete; therefore, we must pray to the water-walking zombie or burn in a pit of fire.
Really?
You mean the other ring girl besides Arianny right? Her name is Chandella Powell.
I’m in the camp who find her, well, not so smoking. She’s borderline ugly in my opinion, don’t like that face of hers.. body is ok, but nothing special. Bad, bad choice of replacement for Natasha and Logan! But, to each their own.
By the way, I know ragging on Chandella isn’t popular with some of the people on here, but this seemed a fitting context. I try not to bring it up to often though.
by Horselover Fat on Jul 31, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Given your screen name
I figured you would like her.
Everybody seems to bag on her. IMO she’s not ugly, not my type but not an uggo.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 31, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh, you know what it is?
Different angles. She’s got one of those faces which looks hot from the side and terrible from straight ahead. check it out:
Hot
Not hot:
Remember when we were breaking up and I told you I hoped that thing on your leg turned out to be cancer? That was just the wounded little boy in me talking.
Your bias for camel toe is showing
"Holy Crap Lashley is one Bi black dude. He just looks so immensely thick in that picture."
-Pain
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 31, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
busted!
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by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
In the bottom picture she does look a little like Chris Brown
"Holy Crap Lashley is one Bi black dude. He just looks so immensely thick in that picture."
-Pain
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 31, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
She’s not bad looking, but she shouldn’t be a UFC ring girl. Those girls are supposed to be uber-hot. Just sayin.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 31, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t mean in general but in that picture she epecially does.
"Holy Crap Lashley is one Bi black dude. He just looks so immensely thick in that picture."
-Pain
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 31, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
Subconscious, I’ll swear!
Remember when we were breaking up and I told you I hoped that thing on your leg turned out to be cancer? That was just the wounded little boy in me talking.
Is the person standing behind Tyson Griffin holding a fan?
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
I did not know that Krzysztof used to be a pro wrestler. Anyone know what he career was like? Like maybe a few minor shows or was it more?
From what I recall...
He was trained in Canada by possibly the Stu Hart clan, although I’m not sure.
Think he just did some Canadian indies. Has the look, though.
by BVandDietPepsi on Jul 31, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Per Sherdog;
Johnson originally weighed in at 172.5 pounds. He tried to lose the additional weight but only dropped half a pound, according to UFC.com, and doctors would not afford him any further attempts. He will fight Riddle at 172 pounds and was docked 20 percent of his purse.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
Nope
Catchweight at 172 and he loses 20% of his purse. Didn’t he miss weight before?
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
Riddle got this one!
Missing weight is never a good thing.
by Horselover Fat on Jul 31, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
nailed it.
There's no depth to my shallowness.
by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Touche
But, you know what I mean. It’s generally not a good sign, let’s put it that way.
by Horselover Fat on Jul 31, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnson didn't really miss weight so much as just show up in a different weight class.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Jul 31, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Vladdy getting 2 staredowns for the price of 1
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by Earl Montclair on Jul 31, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah but what is Ed Soares doing between them?
"Holy Crap Lashley is one Bi black dude. He just looks so immensely thick in that picture."
-Pain
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 31, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jones was covering the nipple so someone had to look Vladdy in the eyes…
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Aug 1, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I love how many fights
Zuffa puts on one card. You really do get your money’s worth in MMA.
Remember when we were breaking up and I told you I hoped that thing on your leg turned out to be cancer? That was just the wounded little boy in me talking.
Jon Jones legs are ...Bones.
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_image.php?id=98658
He is surprisingly agile considering this handicap.
They look like burnt french fries.
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Aug 1, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&cs=1&s=103051201jh025ufcliveon.jpg
Tim Sylvia wants his tattoo back.
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