The Talking Points for UFC On Versus 2
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August 1st, the UFC makes their second appearance on the Versus network with a great card featuring stalwart veterans and fast rising up and comers. Sadly, this card doesn’t seem to be getting much buzz, save for fans looking forward to seeing Jon Jones in action. Let’s look at some of the talking points that might be getting over looked going into Sunday’s card.
Gomi’s Swan Song?
One fight that is really being overlooked by fans and media alike is a lightweight bout between former Pride lightweight champion Takanori Gomi and perennial UFC lightweight contender Tyson Griffin. Gomi was the #1 lightweight in the world and a top pound for pound fighter 5 years ago. These days, he’s but a shell of his former self. Is it problems in training? Are his best days just behind him? A little of both? Fans certainly didn’t see the Gomi they were used to seeing in Pride when he made his UFC debut against Kenny Florian. Gomi stood around for two and a half rounds and ate jab after jab until finally being taken down and submitted.
This fight against Tyson Griffin is do or die for Gomi. If he loses, that will be his second straight loss, and he will be 2-4 in his last 6 fights. He can’t afford to let that happen. Tyson Griffin is about as stern of a test as any lightweight can face in the UFC. Unfortunately for Gomi, the weakness in Griffin’s game isn’t really something Gomi is apt to exploit. Griffin usually loses to good grapplers who can take advantage of the fact that he will give up positions in scrambles. While Gomi is a capable grappler, he is not at the level to put Griffin in any sort of danger- if anything, Griffin is most likely to be the one to put Gomi in danger on the mat. Gomi will most likely look to make this a boxing match, where Griffin will be the faster, more agile fighter. This is just a bad fight for Gomi no matter where it goes. More than likely, we will see Gomi lose a decision or possibly fall to a submission late in the fight. After that, he will be cut by the UFC, and any hopes of Takanori Gomi ever being a relevant lightweight again will be gone forever.
An Exciting New Welterweight Emerges
In a battle of two of the welterweight division’s most overlooked prospects, John Howard and Jake Ellenberger will meet up to see who take another step forward in the wide open welterweight division. After the Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann fight in October, there is no clear path for anyone in the welterweight division to get a title shot. Zuffa has made it clear that they don’t want Jon Fitch or Thiago Alves to fight GSP again any time soon. So you will have the winner of Fitch vs. Alves out there, plus the winner of Dan Hardy vs. Carlos Condit as well as the winner of Chris Lytle vs. Matt Serra. The winner of the Ellenberger vs. Howard fight is going to be right in the mix with any of those guys. I would expect the winner of this fight to most likely face either the winner or loser of Fitch vs. Alves, or the winner of Lytle vs. Serra. Either of those fights puts the winner closer to a title fight.
As for the Ellenberger vs. Howard fight itself- I favor Ellenberger quite a bit here. John Howard should have lost to Chris Wilson and Tamdan McCrory, and he was well on his way to losing to Dennis Hallman until he was stood up in the last 20 seconds and knocked out a completely spent Hallman. Ellenberger is a much better wrestler than Howard, and has sick power in his hands. If he wants to put Howard on his back, he can. If he wants to box and rough Howard up, he can do that too. Expect Ellenberger to look good here and to move on to bigger and better things in the division.
The Dark Horse Gets a Coming Out Party
Yushin Okami has always been the dark horse of the middleweight division. He’s always been the guy who’s been fighting in the background, while everyone whispered about how great he was. Out of Okami’s ten past UFC appearances, he was only placed on the main card three times- when he was matched against stars like Rich Franklin, Mike Swick and Evan Tanner. For the rest of his UFC tenure, Okami has toiled in the prelims.
But after his last fight, things are going to be different. Okami was once again fighting on the prelims, this time against Lucio Linhares. Okami showed a new found aggressiveness in this fight, along with a brutal boxing game. He absolutely tore Linhares to shreds with beautiful combinations and crisp, clean jabs. You could literally see UFC match maker Joe Silva at cage side freaking out while Okami landed bomb after bomb on Linhares. He loved it.
So now Okami is going to fight Mark Munoz in the co-main event of a free TV card that is going to be seen by millions of people. This was some wise match making by Joe Silva on several levels. One, Munoz being a strong wrestler has led a lot of fans into believing that he has a really good chance of beating Okami. They base this on the fact that Okami lost to another strong wrestler in Chael Sonnen last fall. This makes it seem like a competitive matchup in the eyes of the fans. Two, this fight is going to make Okami look like an absolute killer. Munoz landed Matt Hamill on highlight reels forever, and he nearly had the same fate against Kendall Grove. Considering neither of those men are particularly good or powerful strikers, and how badly Munoz got beat up against them, this fight is pretty much tailor made to make Okami look like some sort of KO artist. Three, Okami is going to beat up a guy people thought was going to be a tough matchup for him in front of millions of eyes on national TV. Joe Rogan will probably mention the Anderson Silva DQ win at least a couple times during the fight. Interest in Okami will skyrocket due to this fight, and he will most likely find himself in some sort of #1 contender fight after this, most likely against the winner of Marquardt vs. Palhares or Bisping vs. Akiyama.
Development of a Star
And finally, we get to see the UFC taking a note from boxing, and bringing along a prospect slowly. A lot of fans wanted to see Jon Jones in a title fight 6 months ago, never mind that he’s hardly been training for two years now. People were actually livid when he wasn’t used to replace Forrest Griffin against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira at UFC 114.
By bringing Jones along slowly, the UFC is allowing him to develop his skills at his own pace, and get the appropriate amount of cage time. Fighters thrown in over their heads too soon often sink fast in MMA. Sokoudjou had all the potential in the world- sadly, he was thrown to the lions immediately in his career, and was never given a chance to develop as a fighter. He soon went on a huge losing streak, since you can’t really develop your skills when you fight nothing but elite competition while still learning the game. The UFC is being smart by not letting Jones get swept up in the same sort of trap that fighters like Sokoudjou and Brandon Vera got caught in. They are going to let him develop slowly against good, but not great fighters.
Vladimir Matyushenkenko is the perfect opponent for Jones at this stage in his career. He’s a tough, durable veteran who’s going to be able to stick in there with him for awhile. He’ll be able to push him in certain aspects of the fight, but he’s not a big danger to knock anyone out or latch on a submission. This would be a great fight for Jones to go in there and work on his stand up. Just go out there and engage in a 15 minute kickboxing match. This is the kind of fight for Jones to work on his skills and get that cage time in. What he needs to do is go out there and work on stuff. Go out there and trade hands with Vladimir. Take him down and work for submissions. Sharpen those skills so when Jones does eventually go against an elite level fighter, those skills are battle proven and ready.
If Jon Jones simply goes out there and gets a trip takedown on Vladimir, and then beats him up from inside of his guard until he gets a stoppage, what good did this fight do? He gained nothing from the fight, and he will be no more well prepared for when he fights someone like a Nogueira, a Jackson, a Machida, or a Shogun.
Go out there and work on your skills Jon. Get some time in the cage. We want to you as well prepared and as complete as possible for when you take on the elite of the division. I know we’ll all be looking forward to that, and I for one will be tuned in on August 1st.
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Great write-up!
I agree the Gomi-Griffin fight is being overlooked. Gomi is one of my favorite fighters, and I hope he can pull off the W
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Well written
This Versus card isn’t getting as much fanfare because, well…..the other one was better than a Fight Night, better than a UK card, and almost a PPV quality show (not like UFC 120 as the UFC’s website claimed). To have regular PPV fighters like Brandon Vera, JDS, Gabriel Gonzaga, and Cheick Kongo all on free TV is amazing. Compare that to Vlad and Okami headlining and co-headlining shows when they’ve been buried in the prelims is a big drop in terms of “name recognition”. I think this will be a fun show but you can tell they’re reaching the hardcore fanbase with the fighters they put here.
I’m most looking forward to Ellenberger/Howard. I like what I saw from Jake in both the Condit and Pyle, he has some power but does he have the conditioning to go three rounds? Howard is also powerful but he’s had some favorable decisions and a last second KO to beat Dennis Hallman. I think this could be FOTN.
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
To be fair, that first Versus card ended up being full of bizarre and wonky fights. The Irvin vs Sakara fight and the Kongo vs Buentello fight were just strange.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We also had Brandon Vera's illegal upkick against Bones in the main event
Don’t remind of me of Skeletor vs. Sakara. Seriously I’m glad James moved up because he must have been starving himself.
On paper that card was almost PPV quality. Rumble vs. Howard sadly never happened and neither did Sherk/Guida but it was still epic.
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
by SSreporters on Jul 30, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If that garbage would have happened on a PPV, people would STILL be complaining. The Buentello and Irvin fights were just weird. If that was on PPV, people would have been pissed.
And Jones vs Vera/ JDS vs Gonzaga is not PPV worthy. That’s like the bottom half of the main card of a PPV perhaps, but not the headliner and co-main. For crying out loud, JDS is opening a PPV card against Roy Nelson in a week or so, and Vera is still on Versus against Vladdy. Nobody would have paid $45 on the quality of the names of that first Versus card, and the performances on it didn’t bear it out. That card ended up being nothing to write home about.
The next card should turn out to be better than the last Versus card, at the very least.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 31, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why I said "almost" PPV quality
Slap a real headliner on that Versus show (CroCop, Big Nog, etc.) and that was a PPV card.
Also, Vera is not fighting Vladdy. ;-)
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
by SSreporters on Jul 31, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
But this is definitely going to be a fun fight card
I don’t see a boring fight on this show.
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
by SSreporters on Jul 31, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with 99% of what you wrote except:
“Vladimir Matyushenkenko is the perfect opponent for Jones at this stage in his career.”
I think Vladimir is a horrible opponent for him. He has 0 name value to anybody but extremely hardcore fans and Jones is an up-and-comer with (to steal a Hubie Brown phrase) Tremendous Upside Potential™. If Jones wins, most people won’t be impressed. If he loses he is overrated, despite the fact that the Janitor is a bad-ass.
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Casual fans just want to see Jones fight. Hardcore fans know Vladdy. This fight serves a purpose. It’s not meant to add a big name to Jones’ resume. It’s to give Jones some experience in the cage with an experienced, quality opponent.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 30, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The WEC’s Todd Harris thought Vladdy was a “veteran striker”. The average MMA fan is a donk. We can’t cater to their tastes all the time, otherwise we would get nowhere. These are the kinds of people who crave Brock Lesnar vs Chuck Liddell matchups.
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Well struck sir
Outstanding analysis overall, and very well written.
I really had not given that degree of thought to why Maty was a good opponent for Jones, but you are absolutely right – treat it as a 100% intensity sparring session and get some much needed experience in the process.
I don’t know Greg Jackson at all, I wonder if it is possible he will game plan it as such (within his open plan)? For that matter, Jones seems such a student of the game, he may recognize this for the great oppportunity it is…
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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 31, 2010 12:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I’m afraid people might be jumping the gun on this business about Okami’s striking being so vastly improved. It probably is improved, and the aggression he showed against Linhares was a big step up, but Linhares was also making himself a pretty easy target.
Granted, Munoz has shown similar tendencies, but I think Okami might be more reluctant to let his hands go against an opponent who’s more of a takedown threat.
That’s a good point – although we also might see Okami work an offensive wrestling/ground and pound game in this fight. Mark Munoz got taken down a bunch by Nick Catone, and I’d consider Okami a bigger and better grapper than Catone.
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Good post
Well done. I can’t really root for Jones here, as much as I like him. It would be like rooting for the lions in the coliseum.lol Realistic look at Gomi, He’s in make or break now. I’m thinking if he doesn’t come out real impressive he’s gone.

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