Can Vladimir Matyushenko Possibly Beat Jon "Bones" Jones?
We are quick to anoint them and quick to watch them fall. It doesn't take long for a MMA prospect to vault onto the top 10 pound for pound lists. A few impressive wins and people will start talking about the Hall of Fame. If you're Brandon Vera, you'll even convince yourself that it's not too early to talk about winning two UFC titles. Sometimes it's not as easy as it looks to live up to your potential. Other times, with guys like Jose Aldo and Cain Velasquez, a fighter is everything he's supposed to be. The latest in a long line of can't miss prospects is Jon "Bones" Jones. The question many fight fans are asking this week? Which kind of prospect will Jones become?
I'm usually one of the last to buy into the hype. But I remember seeing Jones for the first time live against Stephan Bonnar and agreeing with everyone else on media row-we had just seen a potential champion. So far matchmaker Joe Silva has been very careful with Jones, giving him time to progress and develop his formidable natural talents. This is a fighter who was practically self taught until joining Greg Jackson's team last year. Considering his dearth of experience, his success so far is mind blowing.
Although many mocked the choice of Vladimir Matyushenko, the Russian veteran is actually the perfect test for Jones. Many want to propel the young fighter immediately into main events-even here on Bloody Elbow I've seen fans clamoring for Jones to fight everyone from Anderson Silva to Brock Lesnar. As his teammate Brian Stann told our own Luke Thomas, Jones isn't there yet:
Rashad Evans would beat Jon hands down. Rashad has been in the sport a lot longer. I think he's just now hitting his prime. He's so focused mentally on training and evolving. He's able to put all his skills together now much more easily than he used to. And his wrestling style of fighting where he continually takes someone down is the most cardio taxing style there is in our sport. Most of the time, unless it's a fight like my last fight, you have to continue to take someone down. Not many guys have the cardio or mental toughness to do that, but that's where Rashad is right now. As for Jon, he's still so young. I really hope they don't rush him, because he can really be something special in two years and be one of the top fighters in the world pound-for-pound.
More after the jump.
Since MMA fans are a sensitive lot, that will be seen in some circles as "hating on Jones. It's nothing of the kind. In fact, Stann believes Jones will be special-he just needs the time to get there:
I train with Jon everyday. It's great. He's a kid. He just turned 23. He's got every physical tool you can have in this sport, so there's not a lot I can offer him there. It's more on the mental side where I try to help him out and just be a friend to him. When you're that young and that good, there are a lot of negative people that try to invade his life. But being in Albuquerque and being with Greg Jackson's camp where we all look out for each other, we're able to help him exclude himself from that. It's special to train with a guy where every move works for him. But he's still very raw. He hasn't even reached ten percent of his potential. When he learns a new move, five minutes later he is using it.
At 39, Matyushenko has a dozen years in the game. He's got a moxie, a veteran presence you just don't get from fighters like Matt Hammill. Vlad spent lots of time on the mat with Randy Couture and Frank Trigg and the other Real American Wrestlers. If anyone has the kind of tricks up his sleeves to beat Jones, it's Matyushenko. Of course, even the Russian doesn't quite seem to believe this is a fight he can win without a good deal of luck. He told MMA Weekly that he just needed to keep the pressure on Jones and hope for the best:
"I’ve watched his fights and tried to find holes in his game," said Matyushenko. "But it’s very hard, because he’s very unpredictable. He doesn’t have a particular style where he is consistently doing certain things. There are a few things he does, but he changes from left-hand stance to right-hand stance and just does some crazy stuff. But I think in order to win, I have to keep him backing up, keep the pressure on."
To answer the question posed in the headline, the response is yes. If he can survive a 10 inch reach disadvantage, a distinct difference in speed and quickness, and the unpredictable nature of Jones's attack there's no reason Matyushenko can't win. If he can get the fight to the ground at least once in two of the fight's three rounds, there's no telling what the judges will decide. So, though the answer is yes, it's a qualified yes. As "Bones" Jones himself explained, it will be no easy task:
"Right now, I feel sharper than ever," said Jones. "My ground game from the bottom, and ground passes from top, boxing, kicks are more proper, going back to my wrestling. I just feel sharp all around."
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Evans, without a doubt
whoever is coaching Evans and GSP’s wrestling is doing a phenomenal job. the way they are using their own strikes and timing opponents’ strikes to get takedowns is beautiful, and it is something that will never go out of style.
why do you ask?
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Hamill is a pretty good wrestler and was manhandled by Jones. I am trying to get an idea on how Jones would possibly handle Evan’s wrestling.
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Rashad was about 50-45 in the Big 10, Hammill was a 3time D3 national champ. those 2 would probably have a pretty even pure-wrestling match. but in MMA, speed and ability to mix change everything.
Rashad is fast as hell, and his shortcoming in college was being susceptible to reverses on the ground, he was one of the best in the biz at explosive takedowns when he was in college. Rahsad is also much better than Hamill at using his strikes to set stuff up.
All in all, IMO Rashad’s wrestling would be much more difficult for Bones to handle. I can’t say Evans beats Jones “hands down” like Stann said, but I would strongly favor Evans in that fight right now
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point, let's expand
“Rashad is fast as hell, and his shortcoming in college was being susceptible to reverses on the ground.”
Of the two skills, takedowns are much more important in MMA. There are very few times MMA fighters find themselves in traditional folkstyle riding position, thus Rashad’s main weakness in college is almost irrelevant in MMA, while his greatest strength is now one of the more important aspects in MMA.
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if it didn’t shatter his collarbone, i think he’d be alright at scrambling back up pretty well
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
its not his collarbone im worried about. Does Evans have the chin to withstand elbows from hell?
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Jones Hellbow = Broken face and KO?
Jones hasn’t shown a ton of KO power yet, mind you in the last set of training picks I saw he looks to have bulked up a bunch.
that, i don’t have an answer for, and it’s looking like we probably never will, unless there’s a falling out in the gym.
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It's enough
to make me one want to spread rumors and instigate trouble between them. Muhahahaha.
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lol, interesting
although i wouldn’t wanna be starting any short of shit around a bunch of world-class fighters, more power to you.
also, i apologize for ripping on you a few weeks ago, especially after i saw your quote in the “Are MMA fans sports fans”:
basically, any really good wrestler who transitions and starts beating people down.because that’s my favorite style of fighting as well.
ribbing about fairweather fandom and politics are not needed, and the more i follow that rule, the better the conversations are
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Water under the bridge
Much respect for this reply.
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Rashad does not Equal Hammil in Pure Wrestling
I am sorry but 3time D3 national champ is better than a .500 D1 wrestler. I think Rashad is definately the better mma fighter but in no way is a completely average college wrestler the same thing as a 3 time D3 champion.
I know D3 is less competitive than D1, but come on?!?
i only wrestled club in college and not extremely seriously, so i’m just going anecdotally off what i’ve spoken about with friends who wrestled at various different levels in college, and i’ve gathered that there is quite a large talent gap, and that a .500 Big Ten wrestler would be at least right there competing for National Championships every year in D3.
frankly, there’s no way to truly confirm the argument in either direction, it’s all speculation
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a huge talent gap even between a lot
of Div 1 and Div 2 guys. Rashad was a division 1 wrestler while Hamill was Div 3. Those are not even comparable. Thats like comparing a mid tier fighter in the UFC to some guy who is Rage in the Cage champion.
by ImmortalTechnique92 on Jul 28, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
in general, yes, but it’s not unequivocal, especially when dealing with a deaf wrestler. there is actually a sizeable deaf wrestling community because deaf people are not at as severe a disadvantage as in other sports.
Matt Hamill is a d1 level talent, but there are reasons related to his disability why he went to a D3 school (family, mentors, D1 schools being averse to the extra effort involved). He was an absolute monster in D3, and would likely have been able to compete at a pretty good level in D1, not national championship level, but decent
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Can the Janitor defeat Jon Jones?
Yup.
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Sure he could
I don’t think he will, but it’s a bit demeaning to the Janitor to assume he has no chance to win.
Bad analogy alert: I follow boxer Fernando Guerrero a lot because he’s from my town. He’s a young kid, lots of flash and style, and undefeated at age 23. He fought vet Ishe Smith earlier this month. Lots of flash, lots of punches, and yet Smith moved just enough, connected hard when he did throw, and absorbed most of Fernando’s blows on his arms as he covered his head and midsection. Most of Fernando’s punches hit his arms. All of a sudden, his greatest strength – his speed – was working against him. Smith also did a good bit of vet cheating, landing low blows on the opposite side of the ref and then complaining loudly anytime Fernando came close to his belt line, so the ref paid more attention watching Fernando’s midsection punches than Smith’s. Veteran stuff.
Fernando adjusted in the late rounds and squeaked out a decision, and some say he should have lost. But The Janitor could do the MMA equivalent of Ishe Smith – cover well, stay just out of range, absorb as lot of glancing blows, and stick around and pressure and punish the young kid who’s never really been tested.
It COULD happen. Don’t think it will, but it certainly could.
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Good piece
So excited for this.
I hope the janitor does take Jones down so we can see what he has been working on off his back.
A quick finish for Jones would only feed the hype machine more. I want to see him tested!
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
Imo, Hamill and Vera were good tests. Jones is just freaking special.
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Sorry, to clarify
Pre-fight, Hamill and Vera were good tests. The fights themselves ended up as beatdowns.
What I want to see is a test of Jones’ will.
For 10 points, can anyone think of another destroyer who folded when his will was tested?
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Belfort back in the day
Sokoudjou more recently
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Belfort I will give you points for.
Soko seems to just have digusting cardio…
Anyway, I was more thinking of this guy

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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
whatever site the image is linking to is blocked by my company. i got the red X. who is it?
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
ok, got it. checked the image URL and it’s David Terrell. well done, forgot about him
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
whatever site the image is linking to is blocked by my company
ahhh, i remember those days, being at a desk job and all =-P
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Thomas Brown
Dude looked SCARED going into that Jose Aldo fight, and looked like he didn’t belong in the same cage as Jose afterward.
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interesting, i wouldn’t call him someone who folds under pressure though.
i tend to think he would do better given another shot, but he is a little while away.
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I was shocked, actually
After watching the two Faber fights, he looked like a bad, bad man.
He looked like a scared puppy in that Aldo fight.
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I think Brown
is someone who folded mentally from things outside the cage.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jul 28, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
That may well be true
but he looked like a totally different fighter against Aldo from the two Faber fights. And he didn’t exactly look great in his next fight, either.
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He might have looked a little different going in but I thought the 1st round was pretty normal.
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by Hardy's in your face on Jul 28, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I would actually add...
Tito Ortiz. IIRC, he started to fold when F. Shamrock weathered the early storm, and I think that happens a lot to Tito.
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by PlantingaFan on Jul 28, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and I forgot to add...
Jamie Yager. Not that he’s a destroyer, exactly, but boy does that guy fold when someone can survive the first round with him.
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by PlantingaFan on Jul 28, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he can beat Jon Jones.....

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jul 28, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"I have to keep him backing up, keep the pressure on"
He may be on to something there. Jones has been able to sit on the outside and take advantage of his reach in most of his fights. Disrupting that could be advantageous.
Then again, the last couple times anyone has closed the distance on Jones they have ended up on their back.
not to be to Goldbergian here, but Jones’ teep is ridiculous. i don’t know how anyone is supposed to get around that thing. i guess you could try to grab it and go for the single, but Jone’s body structure makes it a whole new ballgame
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
You'd almost have to go for a low outside single takedown, lifting his lead foot in the air and then attack
Funny enough, I’ve seen Jones do this at least once with his ridiculous reach.
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I agree. He doesn’t leave his leg out there when he kicks. He snaps them out and back with a lot of speed, and his balance is great. He doesn’t even fully extend his leg a lot of times. And Jon’s teep is going to ring up a headkick KO one of these days. He’s got the length to put his foot in a guy’s face and just topple him hard. The few times an opponent has caught a kick of his, Jon just turns his back, whips his leg out of their grasp and throws another one as he moves away.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Front pushkick to create distance.
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I get overly excited about Jon sometimes, but there’s still a lot of questions. I just don’t know who is going to be able to pose them. It’s pretty much all gone Jon’s way so far. Curious what happens if someone manages to drop him with a punch, or put him on his back. And no one has come out aggressively against him and tried to dictate the pace.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 28, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe the key is in the footwork, like it was for Shogun on Machida. it’s hard to come out and dictate pace and close the distance when Jones can just jab and teep all day. it’s probably gonna take some Shogun/Machida type footwork strategery
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 28, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah and I don’t know who has that kind of speed and footwork other than Shogun or Machida. The other problem is that Jon also has superb reaction time. You get inside on him and you’re going for a ride before you know what happened. I’d be a little curious to see how Randy would try to approach this. He might be able to handle Jon in the clinch for a while if he could get there without getting unbalanced and tossed around.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Does Randy work trips?
Because we’ve all seen Jon’s highlight reel throws, but his blink-and-you-missed-it trips from the clinch are a mastery of position and balance. You’re locked up standing, then you’re on the ground, and you’re not quite sure how you got there.
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Seems to me I’ve seen Randy use the occasional trip takedown from the clinch, but not with the speed and timing Jon has. Maybe if Randy can get Jon’s back to the cage he could work him over a bit, but Jon’s just so rangy I think he could tie Randy up and still be landing knees, possibly to Couture’s head:) Interesting to ponder a clinch battle between Jon and Machida for those reasons.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 28, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Aside from Shogun
and maybe old school Couture, who at LHW is known to come out aggressive and set the pace?
Thiago Silva would be a fun fight for that reason, but Silva wants no part of Jones.
Yup. Rashad has his moments, but they aren’t going to fight anyway. But everyone so far has bobbed around and waited to see what Jon was going to do. You can’t give a guy with amazing reach and speed, the advantage of initiative as well. I don’t think it’s going to matter, but if Vlad lays back he’s done for sure.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 28, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
"You can’t give a guy with amazing reach and speed, the advantage of initiative as well."
True.
The fact that he seems to land take downs at will, from any angle is another huge advantage. Have wee seen Jones “work” for a take down yet?
Yeah not really. He just has such a great feel for his opponent’s balance, catching them in transition and putting them down hard. If he’s not throwing you, you’re tripped, unbalanced and down in an instant.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I JUST asked this on the Greg Jackson post! Good point, Truck!
ALthough, I thought he was referring to Jones cardio— this makes more sense.
I agree. This might be a pretty good strategy against Jones, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
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by ChicagoMarine on Jul 28, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm looking at the Janitor's Record
And he seems severely under-ranked in the division — tragically under-ranked — ridiculously under-ranked. I’m showing a record of 24-4 (!!!) with 7 KOs, 7 Subs, 10 Decisions. His 4 losses are 2 decisions and 2 KOs. This dude has been finished 2 times in 28 fights! His decision losses are to Tito Ortiz (2001) and Vernon White (1999); his KO losses are to Arlovski (2003) and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (2009). Of those 4, he beat Nogueira and White prior to losing to them. He’s on a 3 fight win streak and has won 11 out of his last 12.
In short, this guy looks like what we’d call “a ringer” in softball (like me — the guy they call when they need the W). I am very surprised the line is as lopsided as it is (-680, +640). No one in this community is more of a rah-rah Jones fanboy, and I think he wins this fight, but I don’t think it’s going to be lopsided like the line suggests. I think this guy has more tricks up his sleeve than Penn Jillette and he obviously knows how to take fights to the judges, which means Jones will likely have his endurance tested thoroughly again.
I just am not seeing the blowout here, and I can totally see this dude being a guy who flumoxes Jones by matching up well despite being slower and shorter. I also think that because this guy is severely under-ranked, this fight is a lose-lose for Jones in terms of non-monetary risk-reward: a victory gains him very little standing (look at the odds and the rankings) and a loss is… not catastrophic, but medium-term debilitating.
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The strength of Matyushenko’s win column is not that great, if I’m being honest. He IS a great fighter and is a good fight for Jones, but the quality of opponents he’s beaten, especially in the past few years, is not at the elite level, IMO.
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by Ephemeral Artery on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
But he’s still underrated in my opinion.
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The line is crazy. The hype train is raging out of control for Jones.
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by The Darkness on Jul 28, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Janitor for the win, but Jones.....
The "special" thing about Jones is that he is dynamic; he is explosive and intelligent. What I mean by this is that, not only does he have the raw strength, speed and overall athleticism to pull off those jaw-dropping Wrestling, Greco-Roman and Judo throws and take downs, but he also has the guts to actually attempt them. He is intelligent enough to know this and most likely predicts that his opponents will not try such techniques.
A lot of these awe-inspiring maneuvers are deemed flashy most of the time and hence are categorized into that section called impractical. The fact of the matter is, that a lot of these "flashy" moves are actually very effective and can really do some damage. Not to say that some moves really are irrelevant because I would never, ever attempt a 540, or even worse, a 720 degree spinning kick on anybody. Unless of course a Machida type prodigy brings a deemed "irrelevant" style of classic martial arts back into mainstream MMA. Then I would gladly be wrong.
Anyways, back to the topic. The three things you need to have in order to pull off mind-blowing martial arts techniques are:
-Complete courage; no room for fear or hesitation
-Knowledge of the technique; know the proper way of execution
-Athleticism to match; make sure your body is capable!
And with the youth, athleticism and ever-growing knowledge of MMA this kid brings to the table, it’s quite easy to see why Jones is being hyped. Until of course, he gets owned by trying a super move. We will see if it happens against Matyushenko.
My guess is that his brain will register the fact that every time he thinks of trying a crazy take-down or spinning elbow, his mind will cancel out that thought. He will then precede to just trying to land a power punch and if all else fails, go for the double and just try your damn hardest to GnP the guy to oblivion and if THAT fails…meh, take the decision. A win’s a win. Oh..I think I just described Rashad. And most wrestlers in MMA.
I sure hope Jones never stops making those wonder moves.
by ultima0chaotic on Jul 28, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Lucky he is training at Jacksons
He has publicly stated that Jackson encourages his flair.
‘Let the artist work’ as Jackson says, god bless him.
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of his "wonder" moves
are the result of great positioning. Once he has his hips and feet where they need to be for this throws and trips, there’s no reason NOT to throw them. I just don’t see him walking into a punch like Faber did against Brown in their first fight, or Arlovski getting careless against Fedor. Jones sets up his “wonder” moves – they aren’t reactions, which usually get you in trouble. He undoubtedly practices getting himself into position to hit those throws and trips and elbows.
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Can Matyushenko beat Jones?

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"Ten more seconds is all I ever ask. That's the good thing I learned about being KO'd twice. You don't see it coming -it's like death- you don't plan for it so don't wait for it. So many people are afraid of getting Ko'd that their hands stay home, but not me. I got to go out there and shoot the lights out and fall down" Jens Pulver
I think Vlad can submit Jones
The way Jones left his arm out to presumably “trick” Vera into going for the armbar was clever but very dangerous. I believe a fighter who can actually pull the trigger would make the move and grab it immediately.
I just have a strange feeling Jones could “outtrick” himself in this one.
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He could
And I will say, I’ve been surprised by how hittable Jones has been in the past. Vlad has solid boxing, and could land some shots on Jonny if he can navigate around his reach. Also though, Jones hasn’t shown that he has the best jab, and that could be key in him being able to keep The Janitor at range. I think Vlad could possibly catch a kick and get Bones down with one of his bulldozing takedowns, and he’s a real grinder from on top, so we might have to see how proficient Jon is from his back.
That said, those are a lot of ifs, and logic dictates that Bones will be the one scoring on the feet, and will likely score more takedowns than Vlad; his clinch takedowns are something that most fighters just aren’t able to defend, not even solid Greco guys like Vera or Freestyle guys like Hammil.
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Vladdy is a good, tough test for Jones. Frankly, we don’t know anything about Jones at this point. He’s in the same place Brandon Vera was around 2006 – a lot of hype concerning his potential, when he hadn’t actually beat anyone. Considering Jones’ best win is over Vera, that’s somewhat telling.
Do I expect Jon Jones to beat Vladdy? Yes. Would I be suprised if Vladdy came out and grinded him out? Nope. Jones hasn’t been tested AT ALL at this point. For all we know, he might turn into Melvin Manhoef once his back touches the mat.
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