Will Dana White Really Cut Anderson Silva If He Plays Around Against Chael Sonnen at UFC 117?
by Kid Nate on Jul 27, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
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Kevin Iole documents the atrocities that have been Anderson Silva's recent middleweight title defenses:
Following UFC 90, which featured little action in the first two rounds before Cote had to withdraw after a third-round knee injury, White came to the post-fight news conference and said, "I was sitting there saying, ‘What the [expletive] is going on?' " He also said, "I was sitting there going, ‘No, this isn't happening,' " and, "If you don't know him and you showed up for the first time, you'd [think] that guy was goofing around. He was acting arrogant and cocky and trying to play with [Cote] like he was a little kid."
It was more of the same at UFC 97, when Silva declined to follow Leites, a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, to the mat and turn a fight into a grappling match, leading to a dull five-round fight. Silva didn't understand why he was being criticized and said, "Everything I trained to do, I did."
...But Silva's performances at UFC 90 and UFC 97 were just kind of a cruel warm-up act to the comedy skit that went on during his title defense against Maia, the first UFC card in the Middle East and the first with the White and Fertitta's new partners, Abu Dhabi-based Flash Entertainment, in place.
Iole also says that had Anderson put on the kind of performances against Cote, Leites and Maia that he did against Rich Franklin (2x), Dan Henderson and Nate Marquardt that he'd likely have been rewarded with a mega-fight against welterweight champion Georges St Pierre.
Instead, Silva is being punished by having to beat Chael Sonnen and Vitor Belfort in conconsecutive MW title defenses before getting any more fights outside his division. That's IF Dana White approves of his performances in the two fights.
Iole continues:
But if there is a repeat, the pressure will shift from Silva to White. White vowed after UFC 112 to cut Silva should he fight as he did that night ever again.
If Silva prances his way to an unsatisfying win, the burden will shift to White to back up his tough talk and ax the man he's touted for years as the best fighter in the world.
That would be far more interesting to watch than any of Silva's last three title defenses have been.
That will indeed be very interesting and could well be a critical fork in the road for Dana White, the UFC and MMA as a sport. If the precedent is established that simply winning is not enough to stay in the UFC, but rather entertaining is the preeminent virtue, White will have indeed set the UFC on a course away from sport and towards sport-entertainment.
On the other hand, if Anderson Silva once again makes a mockery of his opponent and the fight and Dana does not cut him, Dana will look like he backed down in the face of a recalcitrant but supremely talented athlete.
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As long as there are suckers who will pay to see him, Dana will let him keep going.
And as one of those suckers, I’m okay with that.
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True, true, true. I think he deserves some of the PPV in my opinion.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
If he wasn’t fighting the best fighter in the world, no one would care what he said. He’s been talking shit for a while now. Its just no one was listening.
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 27, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If Chael Sonnen was talking shit in a forest.
and nobody was around to hear it, does it make a sound?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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Hah
I stand by what I wrote when Dana said this – it’s not even close to a real sports league if a champion’s job is at risk due to how he wins. Fuck that. If it’s legal under the Unified Rules, it’s permissible.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
wtf Derek?
I thought I knew you man
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by Barack Lesnar on Jul 27, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
To be slightly serious
I agree 1000%.
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It’s not legal…
13:46-24A.15 Fouls
(a) The following are fouls and will result in penalties if committed:
21. Timidity (avoiding contact, or consistent dropping of mouthpiece, or faking an injury);
by Steven Abbott on Jul 27, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It's legal
If he wins the fights despite being penalized for timidity, then that’s that.
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The timidity is illegal. He should have been penalized
by Steven Abbott on Jul 27, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
but...but...you love Dana White
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 27, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU AND YOUR ACCURSED MEME-PEDDLING
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 27, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you might also agree that it’s also tough to have a real sports league when every aspect of it is run soley for the profit of one family.
Your beliefs become your reality.
by Hardy's in your face on Jul 27, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like it, but you’ve won this round Suboticki.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I cannot picture Silva playing with Sonnen...
the way he did with Leites and Maia (two completely different fighters from Sonnen). If the Cote bout had not been abbreviated by injury, I doubt Cote would’ve allowed Silva to do what he did with the other two. It’s simply not his style.
I think everyone has assumed (not unfairly I would add) that a stand-up striking match-up cannot work (see: Griffin, Irvin) and that putting him on his back, as Lutter did, seems to still influence many that defeating Silva requires a similar strategy. Henderson and Marquardt made those attempts and made for more exciting matches.
To me, this fight goes two ways: Silva knocks out a reckless Sonnen perhaps being too predictable in his takedown attempts OR Sonnen wrestles away a decision from Silva which would be equally compelling a la the Couture-Sylvia 5 round battle.
by flassasin24 on Jul 27, 2010 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The point is that people are paying a shitload of money for tickets and a shitload of money for PPV’s. If Silva fucks around, he’s basically sending a message that he (and by association the UFC) don’t care about that money.
There would be action taken against an NFL team that got up by 7 points on a team that couldn’t do anything back but instead of playing the game out professionally started running fake punts on 2nd down like an 8 year old playing a video game.
It’s sport, but when a sport is driven by PPV it means that entertainment factors in. But more than simple entertainment is the delivery of value.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 27, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
That being said...
no way would they cut him.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 27, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly...
Can you imagine what would happen is say Silva went to Strikeforce? Makes me wonder if Dana White would turn around and be like “Hes not the top lb for lb fighter in the world….. those were just jokes.” lol
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That would be so f'n awesome
But Silva in SF would be awesome. They would let him do whatever the fuck he wanted and it would make for killer matchups. Maybe even a Roy Jones Jr. fight?
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The time for that fight has passed. RJJ is a shell of a fighter; at this point, Anderson would murderdeathkill RJJ even under boxing rules.
And I don’t know why people think that would even be an exciting match. Two of the world’s best counterpunchers would circle each other pawing with jabs, tentatively throwing crosses until we all fell asleep. Thank God Dana never let that one happen.
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by The Lethal Haze on Jul 27, 2010 12:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
What killer matchups would he get? You are delusional. I could give a shit if Anderson gets cut. I paid for the last PPV with him and walked out of my living room in disgust wishing I didn’t pay for that shit.
He isn’t that marketable and the fights he would get outside of the UFC would be one-sided. Who the fuck would he fight? Lawler, Manhoef, Sobral, Henderson? I don’t care about any of those fights. And I don’t care if he goes to 205 to fight King Mo, or anyone else. Just no interest due to his past performances.
I hope he gets his ass kicked or fucking destroys Chael.
As far as Roy Jones goes. I could care less and I would pray to God that Roy would beat him. Drop his ego down a couple notches.
I have no doubt they would put together Anderson vs Fedor at HW and bill it as the fight for number 1 p4p
by brad23 on Jul 27, 2010 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Come on guy. You have no interest in Manhoef/Silva? You’ve gone too far…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 27, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He isn’t that marketable and the fights he would get outside of the UFC would be one-sided.
Who gives a flying fuck if he’s marketable or not. Some of those fights would be abso-fucking-lutely sick. Tell me you wouldn’t watch Silva/Fedor, Silva/Roger or maybe even Silva/Ubereem and I will cease and desist while simultaneously taking your man card.
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Agreed
No win situation for UFC. If Silva makes a mockery of his fight again that screws the people who paid a lot of money to watch that fight. And if White doesn’t cut him, it will make Dana look soft.
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Yeah, I don't see how you can cut SIlva.
I think he wants to remain healthy for the opportunity of a fight against GSP. Rolling on the mat with BJJ Master Maia is not going to get you there.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jul 27, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Like the NFL the UFC needs to find a way to be able to fine fighter’s that disrespect the spirit of the sport. If an NFL team started intentionally sandbagging like you said they would be fined for it. Is that something that could be open for abuse? Possibly but it hasn’t happened in other major sports. I remember the NBA issuing a fine for a team that didn’t finish a game when they were getting beat bad and the other team was trying to set their guy up to get a triple double or something.
I really don’t see the point in all this debate regarding Anderson Silva’s title defense performances. He is an amazing athlete and mixed martial artist, with probably the most raw talent in the sport. If he is able to make a mockery of his opponents because they are not on his level and are not able to stop him, who are we to tell him he cant do that. I say let him act however he pleases until someone better than him is able to put him in his place. However, I doubt this will ever happen while he is in his prime fighting years.
Also, if you don’t want to watch him fight, don’t buy the PPVs! If no one buys cards with Silva fights, DW will cut him and Silva will get the message. Its simple business.
by lovernotafighter on Jul 27, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
People already don’t buy cards with Silva on it. He isn’t a draw.
by sadface on Jul 27, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 7 recs
This ^
… Perhaps, he meant “natural-ability”?
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by ChicagoMarine on Jul 27, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Uh, yes. Silva’s natural, inherent ability to fight. Genetically speaking, Silva appears to have superior reflexes, agility, and awareness during fights than his peers. This is what I mean by raw talent, and I don’t understand your question.
by lovernotafighter on Jul 27, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you know his abilities are natural? What do you know about his genetics? We do not know if he simply has some serious muscle memory from years of training.
Silva stated that when he caught Irvin’s leg kick, he used to practice that as a teenager. That’s not necessarily due to some advance raw talent or natural ability.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
True. But note I said “appears”. I have no idea if it is natural or learned. But the fact remains, the guy has got impressive skills.
by lovernotafighter on Jul 27, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless an athlete is extremely young then I just don’t see how an athlete can appear to have superior or any of the aforementioned attributes. You can see superior skills in wrestlings, judo, muay thai boxing, or any particular discipline.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
^ This pretty much.
I’ve never understood the “raw talent” or “natural ability” thing.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Think John Daly vs. Tiger Woods. Tiger once said that if he had the natural ability to play golf on the level that John Daly had, he wouldn’t need to practice either. All I am saying, is that Anderson Silva’s fighting skills seem to be greater than those that train an equal amount that he does. So what’s the difference?
by lovernotafighter on Jul 27, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The unspoken, underlying current here being his race, of course. People get very sensitive when you suggest that black athletes get by on raw athleticism as opposed to some other attribute (hard work, etc.). I agree with lover that Andy displays tremendous innate gifts. So do Brock Lesnar and BJ Penn. Doesn’t mean Andy is not also dedicated to his craft.
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Even in Brock Lesnar’s case. People call him a genetic freak and all that but they fail to recognize the hours and dedication that goes into the gym. And it is obviously showing because he pulled off a victory via submission.
Is he big, does he have a nice physique? Yeah whatever. Does he work hard and run his bjj drills? uhmm . . . yeah. BJ Penn’s book details his hard work and dedication towards becoming the fighter that he is. He is gifted but that doesn’t say anything about him genetically.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Race has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.
by lovernotafighter on Jul 27, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Understood.
I was talking more about the opposition to your remarks.
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The difference is Rudimar Fedrigo, Rafael Cordeiro, Wanderlei Silva and the current guys he trains with. Not to mention is outlook and perspective on fighting, winning and losing.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
An interesting story about natural ability vs practice
Remember the standing elbow Silva threw from down to up that knocked that guy out? At the time, and it still remains, one of the most unorthodox strikes ever seen and one that actually landed and won the fight for Silva. Almost everyone simply attributed it to Silva’s uncanny natural abilities/raw talent. I saw an interview with him about a year ago, where he talked about that strike. As it turns out, he tried it out in the gym and everyone told him he was crazy and basically didn’t practice it with him. So every night for a few months, he had his wife hold a pillow, and he practiced it himself a few hundred times a night. He said it was the repetition and practice that allowed him to successfully pull off the elbow.
Silva said he saw the technique in Ong Bak and thought it was cool. Something tells me that his corner often thinks he’s crazy or bugging out.
Jon Jones more or less does the same thing. He watches YouTube fight videos and then practices what he sees.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, who knew that the premiere mma traning regimen consisted of watching hollywood films, and youtube videos and just imitating them. If this were the case I would be the current middleweight champion!
by lovernotafighter on Jul 27, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
There would be action taken against an NFL team that got up by 7 points on a team that couldn’t do anything back but instead of playing the game out professionally started running fake punts on 2nd down like an 8 year old playing a video game.
I agree. It is like running up the score and gambling on fourth down when you have a 50 point lead…
It will be justly frowned upon, that said, nobody is getting cut.
If an individual NFL player was showing complete and utter disregard for sportsmanship on a regular basis a suspension might not be out of the question.
Or is this more like a taunting penalty?
The whole situation is a mess. I don’t know.
Sorry… thinking out loud.
If the put him in prelims...
…they would have the choice to air the fight if it’s good and black it out if it sucks.
The problem is that it would be a championship fight on the prelims, unless it’s at 205.
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jul 27, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Leites tried to pull Silva to the ground. Sonnen is gonna push him to the ground.
No way this fight has the same outcome as the above mentioned fights, unless Silva pulls a complete Kalib.
man, i really hope you’re right and that this either ends with a takedown-intercept knee to Sonnen’s face, or that Sonnen actually gets his takedowns and makes a fight of it.
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 27, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Odds are that Sonnen eats the knee going for a takedown
and goes to sleep. He may get a couple of TDs in and do what he does best but at some point, the knee will most likely catch him. And even on the ground, Silva has great ability to nullify someone on top with his body triangle from below, and leg control.
I agree. I would bet that when Jay Silva approached Chael about fighting him, he made sure to emphasize action in the fight. I think Chael will attack him at the risk of losing in frightening fashion. He knows why he’s being sent in there.
by Steven Abbott on Jul 27, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
good article Nate
Ok, so say we see the same exact antics from Anderson this time around. If Dana doesn’t cut him, what can he actually do?! Putting him on a fight night, or an undercard is hardly punishment in my opinion….he still gets to fight, he still maintains the championship belt and he still gets paid. On the flip side, if there is anyone arrogant enough to cut a fighter of Anderson’s cloth, it’s Dana, no doubt about it.
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Not a chance.
Anderson can mess around as much as he wants and Dana won’t be able to do anything. Dana’s obviously just trying to enforce his alpha-male mentality on Silva by giving this silly ultimatum to one of the best MMA fighters in the world.
The only real downside to The Spider’s fooling around is that Sonnen will most likely bull rush him while he’s doing one of his dances. And even then, I’m pretty sure AS can pull of a triangle choke, Travis Lutter style. Maia x Sonnen anybody?
by ultima0chaotic on Jul 27, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
I’m assuming that AS has a ppv share in his contract. Welcome to Fight Nights Silva!
No way they cut him and honestly, I think this will be a non-argument, as I expect him to crush Sonnen and get back on track in his performances.
get back on track in his performances.
i’m with you, because I don’t even blame him for the Cote fight. that shit was just weird.
he’s only every really clowned against Leites and Maia, two big time BJJ guys who’s gameplan was to trick him into coming to the floor. You put a guy out there like Sonnen who ain’t gonna try to trick anybody into going to the floor, because he actually knows how to take fools down unlike these BJJ guys who seem to spend far too little time in practice figuring out how to take folls down, and you get a good fight.
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 27, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
your name is BJJdenver, so maybe you have some insight into a quandry i’ve been contemplating lately. Why is there so little focus on takedowns in many BJJ schools? I’ve been training at a Renzo Gracie affiliated school for 5 months now, and have barely experienced any takedown training. Now, I have an extensive wrestling background and good top control and sub defense, so when we do live go’s, I am able to consistently plant much more experienced grapplers on their asses and stalemate the shit out of them. If these guys had any remote ability to put me down, they would be able to sub me consistently, but there are only a few guys in the gym who have any semblance of good takedowns or TDD. what is up with this? why do BJJ shun wrestling training?
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
BJJ guys should really incorporate wrestling and judo.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it is so much a shunning of it, as it is a lack of knowledge, ability and someone to teach it. I just left the Renzo affiliate that I have been at for over 4 years and we really did little for structured takedowns. However, as the sport has grown and MMA has influenced it, I think this is slowly changing. The school I left had a few NCAA wrestlers and they were teaching some classes on their own. We also had Brian olsen teaching Judo for a while, but he moved to Texas.
The new school that my professor is opening, will have a full-time Judo instructor, who is the highest decorated female Judoka in the US. I also know there will be more focus on take downs and they will probably incorporate a separate TD class when the time is right. Hopefully we will get some big time wrestlers who come and will be able to help out.
When I was in brazil training, there seemed to be huge Judo influence, and it was almost like it was our wrestling vs their Judo. They did a ton of TD work, so I’m not sure why that hasn’t translated to teh schools in teh US.
Overall, I expect TD to get more attention and think it is just a part of the evolution process.
On a side note, you should try and get guys together to work on your own, or if you feel that you aren’t getting the help you need, don’t be afraid to ask for it. I blew my stack after my last tournament and that is when my academy started paying more attention to TD’s. Believe me, if others see you working on TD’s, they will soon follow suit.
by BJJDenver on Jul 27, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the way, I believe in Brazil, that Judo is actually more popular than BJJ. They even had coverage on the nightly news!
by BJJDenver on Jul 27, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also
I think a lot of the BJJ view is that they are comfortable or even encouraged to fight off of the back, so perhaps they don’t mind being taken down. I hate being on my back, so I don’t have that view. Like I said, I think the MMA influence is changing that.
by BJJDenver on Jul 27, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow man, thanks for taking the time to respond. and i have noticed that guys seem to not worry worry about being put on their back, thinking they’ll be able to sub or sweep. althogh they’re now starting to realize it’s a bitch to sub or sweep a good wrestler with break-dancing hips and half a brain.
I think i will start utilizing the open mat opportunities more, instead of mostly only going to the structured classes
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 27, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
I trained at Gracie in San Fran where some Strikeforce guys like Luke Stewart train, and they teach MMA classes in addition to BJJ. We had a lot of days where we worked TDs and TDD.
Now I am at an affiliate in the South Bay. The instruction is 99.9% BJJ. We worked TDs once. Now I don’t train BJJ for any greater ambition like fighting or tournaments, so I like this better as the BJJ instruction is more focused.
But yeah, I think everything BJJDenver said is right on.
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He belongs at LHW anyway
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by mburtoni on Jul 27, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If the precedent is established that simply winning is not enough to stay in the UFC, but rather entertaining is the preeminent virtue, White will have indeed set the UFC on a course away from sport and towards sport-entertainment.
I disagree, this kind of thing happens in every sport. If you are paying an athlete thousands/millions of dollars to participate, and the athlete makes a joke of it, it’s well within your bounds to cut/discipline them. Baseball players get benched, basketball players getting fined, football players getting cut.
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
You mentioned a number of team sports.
Has this happened in boxing? Yes.
How many times have Jack Johnson, Muhammad Ali, Pernell Whitaker, and Roy Jones Jr. completely clown their opponents? None of these guys got cut for their antics.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cut from what though? For the first three, the set-up was way different in terms of not relying on PPV buys. Sweet Pea may have been on a couple, but not like it is now where that is really the only avenue, aside from the Super Six (five). With RJJ, he may have done that same stuff, but he had 12 rounds to still put on a show. Overall I doubt he’d be cut, but I think a great punishment would be to put him on a UFN card. You can’t cut him and let him make money for someone else and you have to give him fights. So don’t rely on him and make him toil away in hell until he decides to let us see those talents. Everyone saw what a slap it is to have a champ fight on a lesser card (Kaufman anyone?), so maybe it’ll wake him up. If he retires, they won’t lose much of a draw.
by Steven Abbott on Jul 27, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
amazing gif.
Everyone near my office came in to see what I was laughing at. lol
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jul 27, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like how Soares is counting money
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by DamnSevern on Jul 27, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
lol
The end made it worth it
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
They won't cut him
They might make an example of him and try sticking him on prelims or a string of fight nights, but no they won’t cut him.
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Fight night...
..will probable be good for him. He started by KO’ing Leben in a fight night, he also destroyed Irvin in one. We might see him blast through whichever poor soul is put in front of him if it does happen.
by ultima0chaotic on Jul 27, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Try is the operative word
I say try because I don’t think they’ll be successful in getting him to fight under those circumstances.
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Yeah
I couldn’t see him agreeing to those conditions.
I think Dana did a good job with this fight against Sonnen. If he wants KOs, then put him against guys who are going to give him a challenge because they have an all-around game. If he wants to see a spectacle, then keep putting him against guys who are not in his fighting-calibur.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jul 27, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen is going to challenge him with his "all-round game"?
Sonnen is incredibly one dimensional….
"I thought I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury."
- Tank Abbot
on his decision loss to Dan Severn in 1995
No...
… That’s why I am of the assumption that this will be a spectacle— unless Sonnen charges in recklessly or makes an obvious error in his standup defense.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jul 27, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If Dana wanted to punish him
He’d start putting all of his fights on Fight Night’s or Spike. That’ll learn him*.
*And by learn him I mean it will allow me to watch Anderson Silva fights without having to fork over $50.
The way he has mocked the sport lately, I wouldn’t watch him for free.
Ok, I would, but I wouldn’t like it!
I can't help myself with these type of guys...
The guys who are head and shoulders above their challengers yet they just toy around with them. I always watch because of what they might do. There is a legitimate chance I’m going to see something incredible every time Silva steps into the Octagon. Problem is I might see something maddening.
It’s the same thing as Roy Jones Jr, who oddly enough Silva wanted to fight and I imagine has a measure of respect/admiration for. Dude messed around with guys he could’ve taken out and instead of challening himself during his prime he waited too long and was destroyed by Tarver and Johnson.
by TMadeBurner on Jul 27, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve said it before, but for my $50, I would rather see a 1 minute demolition by Silva, than that clowning around for 5 rounds crap.
100% agree
But it’s the chance to see the demolition that keeps us coming back and for a while there he was providing that thrill to fans with nearly every fight.
by TMadeBurner on Jul 27, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
What he did to Leben is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen!
I could care less that the fight was less than a minute.
Fuckin hilarious Nate
We read the same article and come up with two somewhat different things to write about.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 27, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
Actually, it's an improvement for the site. Hahaha
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 27, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2010/7/27/1590136/performance-anxiety-anderson
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 27, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think they will cut Silva.
But cutting him b/c of that doesn’t necessarily lean them toward sports-entertainment..cutting someone for bad sportsmanship is not simply entertainment based.
"Jeremy Shane.. Easily the best writer on BE with initials J.S.!" - mmarazorback
But cutting him b/c of that doesn’t necessarily lean them toward sports-entertainment..cutting someone for bad sportsmanship is not simply entertainment based.
it’s part of combat sports to make your opponent look silly, boxers don’t really get cut when they do it. if Andy were to get cut for it, it would set a bad precedent IMO. He still hasn’t broken any rules, until he does, he should be fine…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
it’s part of combat sports to make your opponent look silly - without looking silly yourself. even though i only really think he looked foolish in the Maia fight. to me, the Cote fight is just whatever, and i blame Leites for the Leites fight
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 27, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
he looked silly to you, to me he looked above and beyond his foes… regardless, we all have different points of view to how he performed, it’s still his actions in the ring, he didn’t do anything illegal and came out victorious… I don’t see how you cut someone for that.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
by Orcus on Jul 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm in agreement about not cutting him, no wavering there
to me he looked above and beyond his foes
he looks above and beyond his foes to me in every fight as well, and I don’t hold the Cote or Leites fights against him, because he didn’t act like a complete ass. but against Maia, dude was just being a dick. most importantly, he looks even more above and beyond his foes when he’s dancing his knees all over their face (Franklin/Leben), doing some Matrix shit (Griffin) or just having good ‘ol well-rounded fights (Marquardt/Hendo). I suspect the Sonnen fight will be in a similar fashion as Marquardt or Hendo, and if it is, I’ll chalk this whole thing up to: No More BJJ Guys with Mediocre Takedown Skills are Allowed to Fight Silva
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
like I said
different points of view, but we can agree on this:
No More BJJ Guys with Mediocre Takedown Skills are Allowed to Fight Silva
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
nice
meeting adjourned
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 27, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
you look more bias than anything with that comment
he didn’t look above and beyond anything, he looked scared to get sucked into a ground game with his opponent
nothing wrong with avoiding it if it’s not your strength, but to avoid it at the cost of looking scared doesn’t do much for you
"Jeremy Shane.. Easily the best writer on BE with initials J.S.!" - mmarazorback
sue me, if I have a bias for what I said you have a bias for what you said. Not everyone is looking at how he acted in the same way, we all have different perspectives, just because you don’t like him or how he acted doesn’t mean we’re all in the same boat.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
You can make your opponent look “silly” or bad by outfighting him if you are that much more skilled. And I’ve never been one to get that worked up by guys talking smack or screwing around in games or matches; but it can go too far. IMO he went a bit too far last time and made himself look more stupid than his opponent.
But even saying some bad sportsmanship is expected is sports doesn’t mean it’s still not bad sportsmanship.
"Jeremy Shane.. Easily the best writer on BE with initials J.S.!" - mmarazorback
the problem you’re failing to understand is that we all have different definitions for the term ‘sportsmanship’. he didn’t do anything illegal, therefore he can’t get cut or sanctioned. It’s not like he bite someone’s ear off…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Ummm
It is most definitely BAD sportsmanship to refuse to engage an able bodied grappling champ, in a main event title fight. Either way you cut it, he is paid to fight, and he refused to engage, that was bad sportsmanship on his part (even more so since he was obviously better than the opponent).
he engaged
just not the way you wanted him to. btw, in your view it’s bad sportsmanship if they do it in the main event of a title fight? so I guess in the prelims and undercard that would be just fine then… ok…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
It doesn’t matter, because Sonnen is actually the most legit MW contender since Hendo. Silva didn’t take the Marquardt fight lightly, so why would he play around with a guy who just beat Marquardt and Okami? Sonnen is actually going to bring the fight to Silva via takedown attempts and force him to react, unlike Leitea or Maia or Cote. No way Silva dances to a decision against Sonnen.
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
by mburtoni on Jul 27, 2010 11:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sonnen is more legit than Maia?
Didn’t Maia school Sonnen?
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." -Will Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
by PapaBumpants on Jul 27, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses and they sometimes happen to fall into another’s strengths and weaknesses. Sonnen was a great wrestler going against a master BJJ fighter, Sonnen’s glaring weakness and got submitted. That was that fight. Silva is not on the same BJJ level as Maia so who’s to say in a fight between Sonnen and Silva, the fight couldn’t swing in Sonnen’s favor? All fights are individual and any one fighter can beat another on any given night.
by dreamers_12345 on Jul 27, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They won't cut him. No way in hell.
If Anderson continues to dance around, then they’ll have the first UFC So You Think You Can Dance champ. Anderson just won’t get a big pay day fight with GSP, that’s all.
To add
I honestly think the best thing for Anderson Silva at this point, is to lose. I think losing the belt will be a game changer, both for his motivation and the division.
by pud333 on Jul 27, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If he loses to Sonnen, which he wont, I don’t think he will remain in the UFC. Either Dana will cut him, or he will pursue other things. Like a fight with Roy Jones Jr. ;)
by lovernotafighter on Jul 27, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
UNFAIR Judgement
First I think his assessment of the Patrick Cote fight was totally unfair. There was action during the 2nd round. Cote was either too scared to engage or overly cautious. The fight ended with no resolution that was out of Silva’s control. Was he supposed to neatly provide a neatly wrapped KO finish? When was the last time Cote lost a fight due to strikes or KO? “Not never”
Second, Thales Leites? Yeah you can make an argument against Silva but Leites truly had no business in the cage against the champion. Did he address the matchmaking? Is it his job to chase down his opponent like Nate Quarry did against Kalib Starnes.
The Maia fight? Another BJJ guide trying to pull guard or take him down and unable to stand against the champion. What did Maia do during the first 2 rounds? Yeah, Silva was crazy during the last 3 rounds – really valid argument here.
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I am 100% with you on the Cote fight being unfairly assessed. I mean, not even half the scheduled fight had gone by, Cote’s knee totally shat the bed right in the beginning of the third. There was action, and dana white is an adult baby.
by bigstupidsmile on Jul 27, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I watched Silva/Cote again recently and it’s actually a pretty good fight until Cote goes down. It’s just a letdown due to the injury.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 28, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
Forever indebted to CroCop's left leg for getting me into MMA
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 27, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
Iole also says that had Anderson put on the kind of performances against Cote, Leites and Maia that he did against Rich Franklin (2x), Dan Henderson and Nate Marquardt that he’d likely have been rewarded with a mega-fight against welterweight champion Georges St Pierre.
Franklin,Henderson,Marquardt vs Maia, Leites, Cote- anyone else see a difference.
These fights are on Dana and no one else. Put Anderson against Anderson level competition and you will get exciting fights. Send in Demian Maia and we get to watch a cat play with a mouse.
Exactly, put him against game fighters like James Irvin and Forrest Griffin . . . see what happens. Put him against timid guys biding their time to take him down, see what happens.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but there wasn’t much the UFC could do about the Maia fight what with Belfort pulling out with the injury. Chael was too banged up, Nate just lost to Chael and was banged up and only Maia was free.
by TMadeBurner on Jul 27, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Note, just like GSP, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Rashad Evans . . . Anderson Silva will not take unnecessary risk in a fight. He will not take a punch or purposely exchange blows to excite the crowd, his name is not Chris Leben or Wanderlei Silva. (I’m totally ignoring the last 3 rounds of the Maia fight.)
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s tough to kill a guy for fighting effectively. It’s just frustrating when you know a guy is capable of so much more.
I don’t mind it when a guy like Fitch/Sonnen is using their takedowns and top control because I know that’s their only way to win.
by TMadeBurner on Jul 27, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, is he going to say something about fighters that consistently go for takedowns unsuccessfully and stall against the cage? No.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and what makes you think that Chael is going to
bum rush him and be the constant aggressor?? why, b/c he said so in his “smack talk” to the press/media?? Chael is much smarter than that – he saw the destruction left behind from Forrest’s failed game plan.
"she told me she was on the pill." me
Forrest bum rushed Silva with strikes, a proven faulty game plan. Chael tends to bum rush in with take downs. Those are two different strategies.
by dreamers_12345 on Jul 27, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We can only hope
I will be watching and if the universe loves me the way I like to think it does, Anderson Silva will beat Chael Sonnen like a one legged step child.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
All Dana will say is...
“I said some stuff when I was pissed, but obviously we can’t cut a fighter that’s winning. There will be consequences though.”
by Razzel on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much. I can’t believe anyone would think holding Dana to his word is worth talking about. A person could practically make a thread weekly with content comprised exclusively of White not doing what he said he would. How is this scenario any different?
by Simco on Jul 27, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see Dana putting Andy in limbo by requiring him to fight under conditions that Andy wouldn’t accept. (E.g., prelims, or fighting sub-par fighters, or something like that — I’m sure Dana could think of something.) Thereby effectively cutting him without allowing him to fight in another organization. Obviously this would not work indefinitely, but perhaps Dana could stretch it out for a while.
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
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Well Dana said he would do it. So we aren’t just making this up.
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Fan of: Cole Miller, Dentist Neer, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir
dana's
said a bunch of bullsh*t before that he never backed up. this would hardly be the first time
"she told me she was on the pill." me
dealing with Post-World Cup Depression
by DamnSevern on Jul 27, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
rec'd
and people still think Andy really cares, he doesn’t care lol.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Off topic but I love how Werdum beats Fedor and Anderson and the rest of the guys finally let him play paintball.
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 27, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Werdum said they cheated. They had more people on their squad.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
New guys always get merked
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 27, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought
Werdum’s team had more people, and marines as well?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
but not one Jedi
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 27, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd
From bewildered to I’m gonna fuck shit up in a half second. I remember watching it live and saying he just went from “geez they’re booing me” to “forrest prepare to be tooled” pretty much instantly. Talk about a switch. The great ones can flip it on at anytime i guess. Or in Anderson’s case whenever his opponent is white.
by god-damn long hair on Jul 27, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
so he's a racist now?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Nah, it’s just an observation that’s been written about here on BE. He dominates all the American fighters (Leben, Franklin, Lutter, Marquardt, Henderson, Griffin, Irvin) and clowns around with the non-americans (Maia, Cote, Leites).
by god-damn long hair on Jul 27, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn't really clown with Coté IMO
but I think an argument can be made at Anderson’s weakest weapon which is BJJ. Aside from Maia and Leites, the other BJJ fighter with credentials he fought in the UFC was Lutter, who Andy funny enough fought him when he had knee problems.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
yep
and so was Thales Leites… But some Americans think white people only exist in Europe and America… must be Republicans…
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I'm going with Sonnen so yeah, Silva can get cut for all I care.
If I wake up tomorrow and see that the world has ended, then that means God has finally granted my prayers.
GO Armageddon!!!
EWW Fuck Sonnen
Hes going to get destroyed !!!
Anderson is going to make Chael his Play boy (No Homo)
CHUCK Fail Sonnen
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
strikeforce doesnt really want him
Chael needs to grind 3 rounds. Maia took one (almost). Dancing should be looked at as being controlled (chael made AS move all around the cage not AS made Chael chase him).
If strikeforce takes him then
1 they pay too much
2.He will “get injured” and be a bigger pain than m1
3. Won’t draw viewers
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by GreenG on Jul 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think Anderson is going to blast Sonnen
But if he doesn’t I don’t think he’ll headline a PPV ever again. But if he’s still the champion and puts in his 3rd lackluster fight out of 4 then what exactly is his free TV draw?
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
Doesn't Matter,
Sonnel isn’t Brazilian, Anderson will fight hard.
Good point
All of his dominant UFC victories have come against American white guys (Leben, Franklin 2x, Marquardt, Irvin, Griffin, Henderson, Lutter). His less-than-convincing wins were against Cote’s shredded knee (Canadian), Leites (Brazilian), and Maia (Brazilian).
Hmmmmm…..
Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
scratch that Coté fight
what do you have?
Leites (BJJ), Maia (BJJ), hmmmmmm….
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
anderson did nothing wrong in the leites fight.
he was smart in the leites fight…why fight leites on the ground? if any1 should have been criticized that fight it was leites for just dropping to his back…its mma not bjj 101… anderson did his thing to win that fight….NOW for cote and mia fight….lol yes anderson went tooooo far…but its crazy to see how good anderson really is…making grown men look like lil kids
leites also refused to engage silva
but silva was very content to just sit and do nothing, he never pushed the pace which was a smart fighting strategy but a poor crowd pleasing strategy
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
There’s no way Silva would get cut. For one, he is undisputedly the number one Middleweight in the world, so cutting him and having someone else take the Title would look bad for the person taking the Title especially if the person who takes the Title is someone that Anderson beat. The other thing is that while Anderson has lost fans and plays around in the cage, most are aware that Anderson is one of the best fighters out there regardless of whether he is liked or not.
I know some of this has been mentioned but
1. I remember he Cote fight as being two people looking to counter punch. That’s never fun to watch
2. Silva in not required to go to the ground
3. The Maia fight was beyond unacceptable
The NFL rulebook grows every year. Sometimes for safety. Sometimes for fairness. But, often to increase the entertainment value (i.e. scoring). And, the NFL is definitely considered a sport.
Two solutions for the Silva problem immediately come to mind:
1. Put clauses in his contract where it is Zuffa’s discretion to deduct some of his purse if he acts like a douche. But, I don’t see an agent ever letting this happen.
2. Institute something like the Pride yellow card (as many people have mentioned in the past).
a) The mma rule book is HUGE compared to UFC 1. And, just like other sports the rulebook changes over time
b) MMA would still be a sport, just like the NFL is still a sport.
c) I think the most effective way to get to A.S. would be a loss. Deduct points for being dck. And, based on prior bad acts, punishment for A.S. should be swift and severe.
*note: forgot to mention most sports also have penalties for bad sportmanship
Big problem. The UFC is not like the NFL where they create, enforce and change the rules of the sport. The rules are set up by the Athletic Comission.
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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 27, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he'll do it
anderson is 35, the mw division basically sucks anyway, and dana has cut people for less
(although not of andersons caliber, but seriously who is)
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
What a bunch of poop!
1. The assessment on Patrick Cote was completely poop..
2. Thales Leites actually ran towards him, then flopped on the ground.. never seen anything like that in my life… so pathetic I pooped myself.
3. Damien Maia got out classed so bad in the first two rounds that Spider pooped himself (reason he didn’t want to stick & move the last three rounds… cause the poop would have fell out)…
The reality is simple… The Spider is the best in the world (at least at the moment). I think all the b!tching is a bit retarded… If you don’t like watching him, then don’t buy the card (which appears to be the case on some level as his PPV buys are lower, but obviously not completely due to the constant whining).
There is no other (main stream) fighter that looks as comfortable in that octagon, nor any that ever have looked as comfortable… Fedor is the closest thing to it (being as calm & relaxed as he normally is)… but Spider is just on a whole another level… You can see him actually having fun… enjoying himself… He reminds me of when I smack (in a non-serious fashion) my nephew around (play boxing)… No worries, completely calm, and actually having a bit of fun…. He actually enjoys fighting… and is comfortable & having fun in the fight… That’s a claim you’ll hear all the time from fighters, but it’s bullsh!t… you can see the paint on anyone’s face… They’re either nervous, serious, got anxiety (all completely acceptable & expected)… But not Silva… look at a replay of any of his recent five or six (seven) fights… Focused? yes… but extremely comfortable enough to play around with his opponents.. I’ve never seen a fighter with his mentality… and it’s this that I believe sets him apart. He has 100% mental control… he goes out, has fun… and bypasses the jitters that f’up all the other people…. Can you imagine the anxiety to fight Silva (the best pound for pound fighter in the world)?? Who wouldn’t sh!t bricks??? You may have confidence in your abilities, but something in your head still says… holly crap… this is Anderson Silva… THE BADDEST MOTHA-LICKA AROUND!! - They flinch to his every eye ball movement…
He’s the best around - And I don’t believe it’s because he’s the most skilled athlete in the world… it’s because he has the best mental game in the world… I’ve never seen anything like it… He is the only, truly comfortable fighter in the octagon…
by Jferro105 on Jul 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This comment is on a whole another level.
Especially the part about beating up a child. I mean, you’d have to be a real poophead to not see that this is the only, truly smart comment on the site.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were Dana
I would strip away his title or not schedule him to fight for a long time. If he threatened lawsuit? Welcome him to the undercard of a spike tv card fighting a guy with 1-15 record. I like watching the guy fight, but a fight that doesn’t end in a sub or ko is like watching a baseball game end in a tie.
It would be my honor to be your new stepfather.
I am really butt hurt about the money I wasted on those cards.
It would be my honor to be your new stepfather.
Of course Dana won’t cut Silva. You don’t cut a champion because he has a boring fight, you lose all credibility as a legitimate sport, something that White is pushing for.
Every major sports business organization (NFL NBA MLB) makes changes to make the game more interesting and exciting to watch. That does NOT mean cutting people who deliver because you don’t like the way they win, it means changing the rules to force entertaining action.
Does anyone seriously think that Dana White is afraid of what a few thousand people on the internet will think if he goes back on his threat? The casual fan has no idea he ever said that, and he was obviously annoyed at the time anyway…
Of course Dana will cut Anderson is he pulls another Maia, seriously where have you people been these past few years?.
Dana was embarrased by Silva’s actions, the idea that he would ever allow him to disgrace the UFC again shows just how deluded some people on here are when it comes to how Zuffa runs their business.
Dana above everything else protects the brand, if Silva pulls another stunt like he did at UFC 112 he’s done and anyone that thinks otherwise needs to remember their history when it comes to White.
Luckily for all I don’t think it’s even an option because Sonnen will make him fight. But if for some reason this turns into another debacle, there is no doubt in my mind that UFC 117 will be the last time anyone seen Silva in the UFC.
You don’t get to fuck over Dana White and the UFC a second time, Silva knows that he fucked up and will committ career suicide with another performance like that. So he will fight and get beat and then we won’t have to worry about the drama and bs that surrounds a very talented fighter that’s got too much diva in him for his own good.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
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If the ref had done his job, Silva would’ve gotten DQ’d vs Maia. He was basically refusing to engage for all 25min of the fight – which is a no-no under the Unified Rules. Had the rules been enforced like they are written (which, I assume, is kinda the point of having written rules) he’d have gotten his first warning somewhere around 3rd round (if not sooner) and had that not lit a fire under his ass, the ref should’ve DQ’d him in the 4th.
Having said that, I don’t think Dana will cut him. He doesn’t want Strikeforce picking him up.
You don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jul 28, 2010 4:11 AM EDT reply actions
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