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Sarah Kaufman Gets the Last Laugh

Sarah Kaufman came in for some criticism after complaining that she shouldn't be relegated to the Strikeforce Challengers series, but it looks like Kaufman had the last laugh.

Her slam KO of Roxanne Modafferi made ESPN Sport Center's top plays of the week:

And her fight was the most-watched fight on the program, despite not being the headliner. Per MMA Junkie:

The peak audience actually came for the night's co-main event, a title fight between women's welterweight champ Sarah Kaufman and challenger Roxanne Modafferi that spiked with 254,000 viewers.

The fight actually topped the Shane Del Rosario vs. Lolohea Mahe headliner, which drew 226,000 viewers.

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That’s when and why I turned it on – Nate can verify this.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait…are you a contributer here now?

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 26, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of depends on your definition of “here”

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh I'll just do it now

I’ve been given magical front-page abilities over at Watch Kalib Run. Mien Fightlinker is still my roost, and that’s where I’ll go to say anything that the SBN Gods would not approve of. My laptop is in the shop, right now I’m surviving on my 2002 iMac and I don’t want to fuck up my first post over there. Should be up soonish.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats on the new gig. WKR’s been on the hunt lately hmm? Contributing to a site is a goal of mine, it’s cool to see those that post here getting on at other places, also makes me try and step up my own work.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 26, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your Anderson article was awesome by the way.

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by Barack Lesnar on Jul 26, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

WKR...?

But why? You’re already on on Fightlinker – why settle for less?

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 26, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is how I see it

a) I was given untied hands to write whatever I please, whenever I please, on Fightlinker (writer bashing is in my bones)
b) I’m not exactly in a position to be turning down vehicles for my work at this point
c) Maybe if you guys all follow me there, comment a bunch and raise a stink, certain Kids will take notice
d) It’s a long way to the top if you’re gonna rock and roll

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s with WKR front paging everyone latley?

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honest question, BTW.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I was offered the gig by Zak, whom I did Cage Cast with earlier this year (hopefully going to get to do more of those, every time I do a Podcast I remember how fun it is)

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personaly enjoy your podcasts at Fightlinker, so I hope you do a bunch over at WKR. They have been seriously lacking in Cage Casts as of late, so you need to get on their ass to do them more frequently.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, man. I appreciate that.

My motivation skills are notoriously suspect, but I’ll do what I can.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have the same problem. I should be doing a lot more Fan Posts for several of the SB Nation sites, but finding the motivation to do it is difficult. I only write now when the mood strikes me, or when I really have something to say.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s hard when twenty websites are covering the same story. I’ll make silly jokes at WKR and save the libel/serious stuff for Fightlinker and here.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, everything is already being covered pretty much. I only make Fan Posts when I feel I have something to say that is unique, or I just get the creative itch.

The stuff you lay down on the podcasts is pure gold though.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

Now I have to use the Guvment name too?

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by Damon O. on Jul 26, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Celebration Dance time? I think so

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by Damon O. on Jul 26, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Maybe even a little Miami Heat

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by Damon O. on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good god. My eyes hurt.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

this just made me WTF genuinely

i think the US has the best comedy/entertainment shows overall. europe SUCKS for that.

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by pornflake on Jul 26, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top Gear

That is all.

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by Damon O. on Jul 26, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

top gear ain't shit, yo

neither interesting nor funny.

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by pornflake on Jul 26, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're dead to me

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by Damon O. on Jul 27, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

japanese variety shows shit on the us

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by milk72 on Jul 26, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Correction

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by Damon O. on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jimmy Fallon and…?

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 26, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sam Rockwell

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by MSEMCEE on Jul 27, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Such an underrated actor.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 27, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surriously

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by Neil Manich on Jul 27, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Loved him in “Dangerous Mind”.

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it's the only good fight there is."

by dancingChicken on Jul 27, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Between that, Moon, and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Cowardly Robert Ford, his acting capabilities should never be in doubt.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 27, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you havin a laugh?

dealing with Post-World Cup Depression

by DamnSevern on Jul 26, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

But Luke, with the ratings spiking during Kaufman’s fight, couldn’t the argument be made that viewers were specificly interested in her fight and female MMA more so than the other fights on the card?

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt about it

The question is why. Seriously. I promise is write about this. It’s a great discussion to have.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 26, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I look forward to reading it Luke.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think the belt held any significance there?

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by Tim Burke on Jul 26, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s be realistic: this rating is DOWN from the last two Challengers cards. It’s only up from her last horrific performance.

by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 26, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of those Challengers card was on a free weekend, the other featured Matt Lindland vs Kevin Casey. Casey had Spencer Pratt running around hyping the fight for him for a week solid before hand.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

Didn’t this Challenger card do worse in ratings then the last two?

by MMAGuard on Jul 26, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but it’s also during the summer slump. Television typically does quite poor in the summertime.

by allelbows on Jul 26, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Kaufman doesn’t get on the main card of a Showtime card after getting them SportsCenter coverage, she’ll have a legit gripe.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll admit to being surprised.

That being said I don’t think the points I was trying to get across earlier were wrong after seeing this.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 26, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that slam was wicked

But ESPN has been putting in a lot of different sports in their top 10 for some reason. I’ve seen cricket and soccer on there several times lately. I think they had the Bisping/Hendo fight in the top 10 a few days after 100.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

She’s done a lot of good work for herself this week. Good for her.

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by Blackout612 on Jul 26, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Diva.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Secretly hoping you meant me…..

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by Blackout612 on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  


please caption if you must

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by ekc on Jul 26, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

“Why so serious?”

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Thanks, marks. You just doubled my salary. LOL.”

by smoogy2 on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

“I am co-promoting female MMA with Strikeforce.”

by DirtyML on Jul 26, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Hey look, I can name one other female MMA fighter – never mind their weight class”

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would actually LOVE for Kaufman to face Gina if she ever fights again

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by ekc on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the thing with Gina – the longer this goes on, the more I’m convinced she’s not.

That would be a good fight if Gina could make 135, though

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 26, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gina couldn’t never made 140, let alone 135. They custom made the 145 division for Gina.

And Kaufman would chew up Gina and spit her out, no matter what weight they fought at. Too good of a grapper, and competent enough on the feet to hang with Gina. It’d be a good fight though. Kinna doubt if Gina is interested in fighting anymore now that she’s into making movies.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaufman would chew up Gina and spit her out

Gina will be to big for Sarah, and Gina isn’t bad on the ground either. Caught Young in a Gogoplata and choked out a champion grappler.

But it’s hard to discuss outcomes of fights that would never happen.

by MMAGuard on Jul 26, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Choked out a champion grappler”

I think you’re overstating Tonya Evinger’s skills a bit. If there’s one weakness in her game, it’s her submisson defense.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the fact that Gina was successful on the ground with Tonya with no background in BJJ or wrestling is impressive in itself, especially considering how early it was in her career.

Look, I’m not saying Gina will beat the arguable #1 P4P female fighter in the world, however, underestimating her has been a deadly mistake that other girls have paid for. Good looks can kill.

by MMAGuard on Jul 26, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gina is a quality fighter, but choking out Tonya Evinger is no indicator of how she’d fair against Sarah Kaufman.

This is a pretty pointless debate though. I would be shocked if Gina Carano ever fought again. She’s gone Hollywood now. The money female MMA pays isn’t enough to even get her in the gym.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 27, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least Stu didn’t say Lesnar

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by Neil Manich on Jul 26, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

women’s MMA is only female sport ill actually watch without turning the channel. They always seem to deliver. Normally its a squash match with one girl beating the living hell out of the other but its entertaining none the less.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jul 26, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

most individual sports are fine with woman i feel… its team sports where it gets a bit iffy for me

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by ekc on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, tennis is fine.

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by Neil Manich on Jul 26, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone gotten this passionate talking about a Strikeforce champion before?

During the whole Jake Shields debacle, people just kind of shrugged their shoulders and were like, “yeah, whatever.” People are actually fired up about a Strikeforce champion for once. The closest thing we’ve ever had to this was people wondering if Overeem was going to piss clean or not when he fought Brett Rogers.Seriously.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly!

Here is where i think SF are missing a beat. They should be trying their hardest to make sure that if WMMA ever does cross your mind then StrikeForce is what you are talking about.

by Dfuzemma on Jul 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

People get fired up about Diaz. Just for the wrong reasons I guess.

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by Neil Manich on Jul 26, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

During the whole Jake Shields debacle, people just kind of shrugged their shoulders

Apparently shoulder shrugging is a common reaction when discussing Jake Shields…

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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 27, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

In all honesty

Does every hardcore fan think that seeing a woman gettin violently KO’d on ESPN helps the sport grow? MMA is not main stream yet. WMMA on major cards will not help the sport grow. It will give fuel to the haters of MMA. There is too much of a talent gap for it to be taken seriously. Except for the the whole “I love all MMA” crowd. Do you love all MMA really? Did you love the amputee following his dreams and making a mockery of MMA.

Next we’ll have 2 dudes paralyzed from the neck down head butting each other because they had a dream and wanted to fight MMA.

Now I will get called a sexist pig and such but the truth is that girls have the same rights as boys do. I am not going to tell a woman that she shouldn’t pursue her dreams. I would hope any legitimate org would help MMA succeed and not allow girl fights on televised cards. It hurts more than it helps at this point.

And I no what is coming so don’t try and be cool by predicting it.

by BitchMMA on Jul 26, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Your user name is priceless. Too bad you weren’t around during the whole “Snowden is a sexist” discussion.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why wait till the last sentence to call me sexist?

I told you to do it from the beginning. Go back and read my post before blindly insinuating that I compared women to paralyzed guys. You would need some comprehension to understand the point I was making. That would actually take this crazy skill called “reading!”

I can’t believe I got another post off. And don’t be mad at me because you got handled by a woman. That’s on you and has nothing to do with this conversation.

by BitchMMA on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know you are just looking for a response because it will make your e-peen that much bigger. Well, I’m going to give it to you.

There is too much of a talent gap for it to be taken seriously. Except for the the whole "I love all MMA" crowd. Do you love all MMA really? Did you love the amputee following his dreams and making a mockery of MMA.

Next we’ll have 2 dudes paralyzed from the neck down head butting each other because they had a dream and wanted to fight MMA.

This is what set me off.

If you had any skill at reading then you would know that you had yourself insinuated that women competing is like to amputees or paralyzed people that somehow don’t have a need for wheel chairs competing is the same thing. Note that I said twice ‘able bodied.’

Also, so what if I got out grappled by a woman? I know that’s what you are getting at and I will admit that you are right, I have lost to women before, but if you had any knowledge at all, and obviously you don’t train, then you would know that the main goal of training is to become a better fighter. Shit, I’ve been beaten by a 15 year old kid before, I’m new that this stuff, it’s going to happen, but I can guarantee you that I was never beaten the same way twice.

Get your head on straight and learn to understand what training is all about before you start throwing out off the cuff remarks that you think will insult me. Or maybe you spend too much time getting yelled at by your high school foot ball coach that doesn’t understand that losing means learning to listen to good common sense.

I’m done with this, obviously you just want to see the knock outs and you don’t understand the hours upon days upon years that are spent making a fighter who he or she is.

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by exsanguinator on Jul 27, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

And

why do paralzyed guys have to be in a “wheel chair?” What? You obviously generalize and have no clue what you’re talking about. You are worse than a racist.

by BitchMMA on Jul 26, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because people who are paralyzed commonly employ wheel chairs. This is not a fantastic leap in a logic.

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by exsanguinator on Jul 27, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are worse than a racist.

Annnnd…. troll revealed!

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by AJB on Jul 27, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Note about the ratings

You’d need more specific data to determine the nature of that dip at the end of the program. Remember, Kaufman vs. Modaferri went deep into the 3rd round before the KO. If the peak occurred there, or in the replays immediately after, then you could probably make the case that people came to that women’s title fight. But if the peak happened earlier in the fight, and then the audience started decreasing before the conclusion, that would suggest the dip is due to the lack of interest in Kaufman vs. Modaferri, and can’t really be attributed to Rosario vs. Mahe. In either case, I don’t think it speaks as much to the popularity of Kaufman as much as viewer confusion/ignorance over having a title fight followed up by a three round, non-title main event. I don’t think anyone saw the graphic about a fight between two heavyweight strikers coming up next and said to themselves “I’m not into that, time to change the channel”.

by smoogy2 on Jul 26, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

More people watched Kaufman’s fight than any other fight on the card. Now people want to break it down and analyze it and say that people were actually turned off by the fight? C’mon. It was a great fight, had a great ending, got the best ratings on the card and ended up on SportsCenter. Give the woman her due already.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You’re taking this very personally, you know.

by smoogy2 on Jul 27, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could be that more people were interested in a title fight than a couple of unranked (but skilled) HW’s too.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 26, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW. Lots of lemmings on this site...

Sunday night it was all:

“She doesn’t deserve to be on major cards.”
“Womens MMA isn’t good enough.”
“Kaufman who?”
“BE doesn’t have time for it because it tanks our ratings!”

Now that ESPN jumps on it you guys are down.

It’s sad that the mainstream sports coverage brings you guys to something you should already know about.

Strikeforce is woman’s MMA and it’s not going away until SF goes away. It’s how they have diversified their business.

by juggs mcgillicutty on Jul 26, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, marketing-wise that whole womens mma thing was a good move. they needed something to up their profile with. still, to me, feMMA it’s not as entertaining to watch (yet).

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by pornflake on Jul 26, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wasn't talking about a specific person

just the mere fact that strikeforce has a womens mma division sets them apart from competitors in the market who don’t.

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by pornflake on Jul 27, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Kaufmann has redeemed herself with this performance and drew the ratings to back it up. I don’t know about before, but now she deserves to be on a main card imo, as long as they get a good opponent.

by Chromium on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Marloes Coenen is next.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another fighter with a recent loss getting a title shot?

by MMAGuard on Jul 26, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

She’s dropping back to her natural weight class, but yes that is correct.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 26, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coenen actually fought above 145 for the majority of her career.

by MMAGuard on Jul 26, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because she couldn’t get fights at 135. She’s a natural 135, and has said as much many times. Similar to guys like Jeff Curran fighting well above their natural weight class for most of their career as well.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 26, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s like saying Saku used to fight at heavyweight.

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by Neil Manich on Jul 26, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You said dropping back down to her natural weight class like she has already been there. I was just stating facts that she hardly ever fought at that weight.

by MMAGuard on Jul 26, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, okay. That’s just arguing semantics, but whatever. She fought there before, went up and came BACK down.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 26, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sticking with my guns on this one

1. Where was everyone on Thursday complaining about her billing?
2. She won’t be on a regular card due to her belt. You won’t open a show with a title fight, especially female which is still a sketchy topic for a lot of people.
2a. They won’t give her co-main billing or main billing because you MUST end the show strong.
3. Seriously, where was everyone who’s complaining now on Thursday?

Anyone want to address these points?

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 27, 2010 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 27, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm talking about the 700 people that were angry at Snowden's article :)

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 27, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, you were arguing how it wasn’t really 700 people who were angry with Snowden’s article last night, and how it was mostly people calling him a sexist and you making drunken jokes. Keep your stories straight my man. ;~)

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 27, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm joking about the 700 people

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 27, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think most people were upset that she was getting shat on...

and believed that she was being shat on or less valued because she is a woman.

It wasn’t about the placement as much as it was about the idea that she should shut up and take it.

by truck on Jul 27, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i blame SF for not even seriously promoting this fight.. how would people be mad if they didnt even know it was happening?

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by ekc on Jul 27, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

 i was in everett shooting a documentary of this fight on thursday becasue aol fanhouse and i thought it was a great fight to cover. Both these ladies have loads of talent, loads of personality, and for myself, these ladies represent what i love about MMA more than any other fight i have ever covered.

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by ekc on Jul 27, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I stayed up until 4AM to watch her fight, I wasn’t really shocked by her treatment, this is strikeforce after all…But I was kinda puzzled by Snowden’s reaction ,not the so called sexist one, but the “be glad to be there and STFU…”, kinda.

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by spectaa on Jul 27, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the billing was silly, but I wasn't outraged... this is Strikeforce after all.

I was outraged that she was given flack for asking to be treated like everyone else..

by truck on Jul 27, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mad props to anyone who can recognize this quote

“Yeaaa women can do everything a man can do, even have adams apples”
“I dont shop uncontrollably”
“I can drive for 10 minutes without hitting something”
In all seriousness this kinda bad ass for Kaufman. She has to realize women draw less no matter the sport though.

RIP Phil Harris. I'll miss you man

by II SMASH II on Jul 27, 2010 3:26 AM EDT reply actions  

She has to realize women draw less no matter the sport though.

Gymnastics? Beach volleyball?

by monkeyhead on Jul 27, 2010 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Might as well count figure skating and such then to

Damn you blanket statements

RIP Phil Harris. I'll miss you man

by II SMASH II on Jul 27, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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