Today on MMA Nation on 106.7 The Fan: Brian Stann, UFC on Versus 2 Preview, The Week in MMA
by Luke Thomas on Jul 25, 2010 11:29 PM EDT
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Luke, please talk about Snowden’s Kaufman article.
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I second that man.
I know many people out there don’t have much love for women’s mma. I for one love the fighting spirit, male or female, and I just enjoy a good fight.
Was Sarah Kaufman out of line Friday night? I am a fan of Pat Miletich’s commentating but there an underlying dismissive tone to his words.
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I thought Inception was fantastic was wonderful, FWIW.
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It was so good I apparantly thought it was fantastic AND wonderful.
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I loved it. It’s open for interpetation. I assume you’re reffering to the spinning top?
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yeah i was. i thought the same. like how it was left to interpretation. im guna say he was dreaming cos the ending was so happy for him and it was just how he pictured it would happen with them playing in the garden and turn around.
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I think he was still dreaming as well, because the children hadn’t aged, and the top was still spinning. But if you notice, as they start to pan out, the top starts to wobble a little. So it’s open to interpetation. The ultimate point was that he ended up back where he wanted, and was happy.
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yeah i loved the slight wobble but all we saw was it keep spinning so we have to assume it never dropped. great ending never the less. gotta love nolan. great director.
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Nolan is brilliant. The Prestige, The Dark Knight and now Inception have all been solid gold.
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Haven’t seen that yet. Need to change that.
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was the first nolan film i saw and ive been hooked since. mite still be my favorite. will have u thinking more than inception.
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I’ll definetly have to check it out now. Thanks.
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I loved Inception too, there’s a great deal of interpretations. My fuzzy side wants to think that the top fell over, but once you think about it, you could even make the argument that it was actually HIM that was dreaming all along, considering how others find their way into his own limbo, I’ve read a few really good interpretations and theories, I think thats a mark of a great movie, where you leave the audience thinking, but they’ll be satisfied with the closure they choose for themselves.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting concept, that the entire film is a dream. One could make the argument, with the way the film opened.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 26, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
What really got me thinking they could be on to something with that, is that throughout the whole movie you see people pushing Leo’s character towards something. Asian dude with the “leap of faith” and not wanting to give him the job, and having Leo ask for it himself, then with his wife Mal. Could be that it was actually inception being done to his character. Also worth noting for that theory is that he was popping things into a dream that was not his own, like the big fucking train in the middle of that street.
I’d have to watch it again with intent of actually figuring it out from the start to know what I really think, I just know I loved the film in a bunch of ways.
From all reports she (Cyborg) pretty much only spars men, and has been known to put some out during training. - Rudinho479
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 26, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
If Tito loses to Hamill, he will be 0-4-1 in his last 5.
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Is it really asking too much for the #1 fighter in the world in their weight class to main event a Challengers card over Lolohea Mahe?
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It’s not like it’s just some chic. Sarah Kaufman is the consensus #1 fighter in that weight class. She’s not just some bum who Strikeforce slapped a belt on.
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I'm just copy pasta-ing from my comment on galsguidetomma
Going into the fight she was a ratings nightmare. Unfortunately she wasn’t a destroyer like Cyborg nor is she good looking like Carano. The reality is that wmma isn’t as popular as men’s and Strikeforce can’t afford to promote a title fight with a female who actually loses viewers. Especially when their entire promotion is dependent on ratings on CBS and Showtime. I would expect more leeway with Challengers ratings than Strikeforce on Showtime, which I think is the reason she’s relegated to said shows.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Cruz is the top fighter in the weight class. Sorry.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 25, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t even attempt that argument Snowden.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly. I’m not saying she should main event a CBS card, but she can atleast get on one of the less stacked Showtime cards.
Kaufman is exciting and finishes fights. Plus, she’s kinda cute.
I’m not even saying she needs to be on the main card of a CBS card.She can be on the main card of a Showtime card, or main event a Challengers card. Just don’t co-main her on a Challengers card under a bum like Lolohea Mahe.
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Anderson Silva has run off a lot of fans with his fights too, Luke.
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Fortunately for him Zuffa can eat a disappointment on PPV
Strikeforce can’t risk poor ratings on CBS or their main Showtime cards. That can break their business. You’re not dumb, you have to know this.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s no reason Kaufman can’t main event Challengers cards.
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You want your ratings to peak during the final quarter
After last night she’ll have the opportunity to headline a Challengers again.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank god you are saying it Luke.
People need to stop saying that they should kill the ratings just to appease Kaufman because she has a title. That title doesn’t mean enough yet to sacrifice the ratings. Whether people like it or not the ratings matter a great deal.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Tim Sylvia, the most boring UFC champion ever, main evented over Tito Ortiz and Brock Lesnar, because he was champion.
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That was Lesnar’s second pro fight. It would have been silly to main event with him before anybody knew if he was legit. And the Griffin/Ortiz bout took place before Sylvia had the terrible reputation that he does now. (He’d finished six of seven UFC wins at that point.)
The Sylvia-Nogueira fight wasn’t even promoted on the commercial for UFC 81. The whole promotion for that card was Lesnar and Mir. Still, Sylvia was the main event.
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Yeah, Lesnar was the real draw there, but it still wouldn’t have made any sense to main event with a guy in second pro fight. I’m guessing that was the main consideration, not “we have to put the title fight on last because that’s just how it’s done.”
(And Sylvia wasn’t champion for that fight, by the way—the interim title was up for grabs.)
Anderson had Chuck Liddell, Forrest Griffin and BJ Penn to help him on those cards in 2009 FWIW.
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the ufc have had to pad him with big names for a while so people dont see how bad a draw he actually is. look at the card beneath him for his next fight!! compare that to the fights below brock lesnars last fight.
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by MMA-UK on Jul 25, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's hilarious that Luke is saying everything I'm saying
Brian, you legitimately are just falling back on the she has a belt as your entire argument.
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You’re missing my entire point, but then that doesn’t suprise me.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Remember UFC 73?
Sean Sherk and Hermes France fought for the Lightweight strap and they came on BEFORE Tito Ortiz and Rashad Evans, which was a non-title fight.
What’s the argument now playboy?
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Hard to call that one as it was a multiple fight card. I recall that Silva vs Marquardt and Sherk vs Franca were promoted as the two big fights and Ortiz vs Rashad and Nog vs Herring 3 were the two other fights.
I think it’s just the way the bout order worked out. Jon Fitch vs Paulo Thiago fought after GSP vs Thiago Alves at UFC 100.That’s how it works on big cards with lots of title fights.
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Hey I'm not getting snarky with you so lay off the attitude
I know exactly what you’re saying…but being #1 in a weight class where there isn’t enough high level talent to even have rankings doesn’t really say much. She has a belt. You think she should headline cards. Unfortunately you don’t understand business or television and live in a world of ideals instead of reality where poor ratings in the final hour can mean their TV deal gets ended.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Asking an elite level fighter to headline a Challengers show over a complete bum like Lolohea Mahe is not asking much.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And I mean “complete bum” in a good,Christian way.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No you don't.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
by Geno Mrosko on Jul 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you really just not reading what I'm saying?
If you don’t deliver the ratings you lose your network deal. This is why CBS is hesitant to put on another card after the 3 championship bout card. Strikeforce can’t afford to just promote people who are elite if they don’t deliver. End of story.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarah Kaufman being in the main event of a Challengers card isn’t going to be the difference between life and death for Strikeforce. Doing stupid business deals with guys like Fedor, and putting on stinker shows on CBS like the Nashville show are what’s going to kill Strikeforce.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay I'm gonna say this one more time since I've said it at least 4 times already
You have more leeway with Challengers cards than Strikeforce/CBS but they still matter. You want to end strong and prior to last night Kaufman has been less than stellar. While you care about WMMA most people don’t. I don’t care about it and a boring women’s fight to me is worse than a boring men’s fight. This is the general consensus amongst fans. Strikeforce is already walking on eggshells due to Challengers 6 and the 3 championship bout card on CBS so they can’t afford to have poor numbers. This is why they are signing Batista. She’s the #1 fighter in a weight class where the talent is not elite (same issue with 145) and doesn’t deserve top billing on any card.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
700 posts on Snowden’s article disagree with you.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
My drunken posting accounted for 130 of them
And those comments you’re referencing were talking about how Jon is an sexist asshole, not that Kaufman deserved top billing. You’re really grasping now.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I read that whole thing (unfortantly) and that’s not how it went down. You need to drink more and worship Snowden less. Or visa versa.
Probably the later.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it's how it went down
And people were discussing if Jon was sexist. And the point that a worthless belt means you should headline cards.
Then I posted and had a 130 reply discussion within the story about drinking and women and life.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The belt is of little issue. The fact that she’s an elite level fighter and is being passed over in favor of fighters like Lolohea Mahe is the problem.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep and I've already addressed that point.
If you wanna keep throwing insults that’s fine but at this point I’m thinking you lack basic reading comprehension. You brought up how 700 people agree with you when that’s far from the case, more people were offended by Snowden saying “she should be happy she even gets to fight” (I’m taking some liberties but that was essentially what he said) and how it came off completely sexist. Notable offended members were Subo/Animal/Blackout. They weren’t angry about here spot on the card.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 25, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 25, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. The idea that there was some unified opinion following that post is ludicrous. There was a mixture of positive and negative responses. The positive people just didn’t feel the need to post 20 or 30 times each.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 26, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually Luke, her appearance headlining Challengers drew half as many as the next two shows….
by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 25, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
Hey, I believe that.
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by Luke Thomas on Jul 25, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Junkie reports...
This past weekend’s Strikeforce Challengers 7 event, which featured notable prospects such as Lavar Johnson and Miesha Tate, drew a 1.0 rating and a total average audience of 316,000 viewers on Showtime, MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) confirmed with an industry source.
Compared to February’s Strikeforce Challengers 6 event, which averaged just 150,000 viewers, ratings for the March 26 event were up a staggering 111 percent.
Nearly 300,000 Showtime viewers tuned in for this past Friday’s Strikeforce Challengers 8 headliner between MMA legend Matt Lindland and middleweight prospect Kevin Casey.
Ratings information obtained by MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) shows a peak audience of 294,000 for the May 21 headliner.
Overall, the show, which took place at the Rose Garden in Portland, Ore., averaged 249,000 viewers.
In addition to the night’s main event, Strikeforce Challengers 8 featured some of the organization’s top prospects. Tyron Woodley, Nathan Coy, Roger Bowling, Bobby Voelker, Tarec Saffiedine and Pat Healy were all featured in televised main-card bouts.
Compared to recent Strikeforce Challengers events, this latest show posted a respectable number. Strikeforce Challengers 6, for example, averaged just 150,000 viewers in February.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 25, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Are the ratings in for the one we just saw?
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
by Geno Mrosko on Jul 25, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Showtime is hard because they don’t officially release numbers. They don’t need to provide “ratings” per se, since they don’t have advertising.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 25, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarah Kaufman was who?
1 slam later she acts like she deserves to be headlining…. Right. Ratings mean a hell of a lot more than Coker and crew then what you believe your self worth to be
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Ratings mean a hell of a lot more TO Coker and crew
my bad
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by II SMASH II on Jul 25, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm it's good enough for ESPN.
I think a lot of this Anti-Kaufman and Anti-Woman’s MMA is just sexism, pure and simple.
Lots of fighters have boring fights, so what if Kaufman one or two. That’s MMA.
If there is any one single reason not to cover/promote their fights other than them being female that you couldn’t make an example with any other male fighter than you’re just being sexist.
by juggs mcgillicutty on Jul 26, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 25, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
I essentially made the same argument as the last caller here.
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LOL. What a fail on my part.
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by Luke Thomas on Jul 25, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Jonathon,
I heard Luke say that A. Silva’s PPV buys in 2009 were higher than the average PPV buy for that year. Does that jive with your records?
Your beliefs become your reality.
by Hardy's in your face on Jul 26, 2010 2:33 AM EDT reply actions
Yes, Luke is right. But keep in mind, they started giving Silva the Tim Sylvia treatment in 2009, propping him up with other main event level fights.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 26, 2010 7:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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