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TheUltimateFighter.com Publishes Media-Friendly List of "Best Coverage in the Sport"

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TheUltimateFighter.com has compiled a list of media sources deemed "the best" in the sport. Feast your eyes on this naked favoritism:

Mixed Martial Arts coverage is everywhere these days, and with television shows and Websites springing up almost daily, it's getting hard to figure out how to filter the good from the bad. Below, UltimateFighter.com reviews some of the other top MMA Websites and television shows out there with the best coverage of your favorite sport, in no particular order.

The list was constructed not to help you "filter the good from the bad", but to let you know which media outlets the entities behind the website largely consider to be compliant with their narratives. Generally speaking, they also much prefer you to not be critical of their product. I'll save you the trouble: Sherdog.com isn't listed and neither is this one. I will also say that the inclusion of The Bleacher Report on the list - and, hee haw, the remark that they're "hard hitting" - is downright embarrassing and tells you everything you need to know about their priorities. Ultimately, it's not competency or actual ability they reward; it's fealty, third-party validation and distribution of brand/messages to key audiences.

I understand the role The Ultimate Fighter plays for the UFC and for Spike. Every MMA fan should appreciate how vital it is. It not only keeps the UFC brand in front of two million men ages 18-34 every week, but helps cement the relationship the UFC has with their critically important television partners. For Spike, it's reliable ratings in key demos with content that matches their branding. And that's a hugely important relationship. The rest of MMA hinges on the ability of the UFC and Spike to keep MMA alive, visible and growing on telelvision. Think: what would happen to the UFC if Spike were to drop them? Bad things, to put it mildly. But that doesn't mean I'm going to buy the notion that it's a proving ground for the next generation of elite UFC competitors or that the six-figure contract is in every fighter's best interest or that the fights are more often than not UFC quality. They're not, and frankly, I can't think of an honest adult who could pass a lie detector saying as much.

Living in Washington, DC is instructive in one clear way here. I live in a town inundated with beta males, suffocating political correctness and thought police where the identity ranks are policed with regularity. It's a conformist town. Yet, the dialogue in political journalism and blogging is remarkably more candid than anything in MMA. Criticism of one's own ideas or actions, of one's neighbor or even adversary is an everyday part of the daily churn of media. Why then, in a sport dominated by alpha males both in and out of the cage, is candor such a difficult thing to digest? Where is the courage now? What is everyone so afraid of?

I don't care if this site is or isn't on their list. It won't really affect our traffic either way. We're not here to win industry awards, particularly since they, too, reward fealty. What I do know is this: being critical or offering critical commentary is only symptomatic of hate to the simplest of minds. Whether the MMA world wants to or is ever ready to accept it, honest and thoughtful analysis is now and will forever be a legitimate exercise in modern journalism.

Memo to whoever put that list together: you can't purport to offer readers a list of who is the best when the only defining characteristic among those listed are strategically muted tongues wandering outside issued narratives is deemed out of bounds. If in MMA candor and independence mean ostracism, there is no such thing as a list of "the best". The term ceases to have meaning at that point.

p.s. I updated the last paragraph to more accurately reflect my feelings. There are some good journalists included in that list and I think ESPN's MMA Live has real promise.

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I have this poster on my wall.

Anyway good to see fight opinion mentioned at least.

by moreofmyself on Jul 23, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kid Nate also caused the oil spill in the Gulf

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by Brian Hemminger on Jul 22, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kid Nate also came up with the idea for The Brady Bunch Reunion.

We need a list of things we can blame Kid Nate for.

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW I was semi serious

That’s what you get for playing devil’s advocate, it’s an ingrate role.

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by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm serious too, I have proof that he came up with the idea.

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

SMH

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

When I started to shake my head at certain comments

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It would probably help if you didn’t have a predictable troll as a writer.

by banter on Jul 22, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t realize you were writing here now.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 22, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

ZING!

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by Neil Manich on Jul 22, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

BMW guy's reaction:

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

frankly sir, I am offended.

by banter on Jul 22, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

banned

insulting the staff is not tolerated. there are plenty of welcome ways to give criticism. BE does NOT allow name calling of any kind. thank you.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

When will they learn?

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

DAMN ERNEST BORGNINE!

Obviously that guy didn’t believe in magic.

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The magic of Luke's Beard.

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emperor of the North Pole = Greatness

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Studio really fucked up that movie. But still…. It’s awesome. Have you ever seen Hard Times or Runaway Train? If not, I highly recommend.

by John Nash on Jul 22, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

One of my favorite movies of all time? And I could use it in context? VERY

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by Damon O. on Jul 23, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...no writing FAGAN IS POOPY in large letters on Fagan's car?

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably ups the resale value on it, to be honest.

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by Mike Fagan on Jul 22, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I had trademarked that bumper sticker. I have been systematically acquiring assets related to products and slogans bashing the writers of BE for when they inevitably go mainstream.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I'm about to violate them, but ...

Is there a list of commenting rules somewhere on the site? All I know is no fighter-bashing and no childish name-calling. I don’t quite know what fighter-bashing is; however, I am incredibly well-versed in childish name-calling.

by PlantingaFan on Jul 22, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

fighter bashing and name calling are the same thing

and racist and sexist stuff falls under the name calling one too so that’s rule #1
the other rules are:
rule #2 dont threaten anyone
rule #3 avoid religious and political discussions unless it’s directly relevant to the post being discussed
and
rule #4 don’t piss off the staff

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by Kid Nate on Jul 23, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

And now we know

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by Damon O. on Jul 23, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone is getting their credentials taken away for those kind of remarks (sarcasm)

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by ultmma on Jul 22, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

The list isn't absolutely terrible

MMAfighting and MMAJunkie are two really good sites for MMA news, but I do agree that the only one’s mentioned are 100% Zuffa shill sites. You don’t need to mention Sherdog or BE but at least mention sites with some parity with coverage.

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

That's true

AOL and Junkie are two good sources for news.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 22, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do agree though that it's laughable to mention BleacherReport

And why even mention UFC.com or UFC unleashed or Countdown?

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bleacher Report is a cesspool

This is amazing, that site is bar far the worst I’ve ever seen, MANY marks below Sherdog.

by Shaun32887 on Jul 22, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shedog isn't bad.

The Sherdog boards are terrible.

by truck on Jul 22, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t sweat it. Junkies forum is dyeing a slow painful death.

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by j.villain on Jul 22, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the comment section for Mania as bad as I remember?

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea Manias pretty god awful

But we are just elitist over here, so what do we know

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by II SMASH II on Jul 22, 2010 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I approve of this message

RIP Phil Harris. I'll miss you man

by II SMASH II on Jul 22, 2010 8:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I support this message!

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to do what K-1 did for Dynamite and get an irrelevant celebrity to endorse us.

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hrm...can I get a musician to endorse us?

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby Brown

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tommy Wiseau!

O HAI BLOODY ELBOW HA HA HA

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jimmy from Jimmy's Chicken Shack!

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, Wiseau comes cheaper but we'd have to advertise The Room on BE

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Co-signed

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

can i get some damn green around here

the BElitist thing is fucking genius.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

MiddleEasy.com has like 15 shirts

Time to roll out the BElitist shirty.

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

shirt*

Bah

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU WE ARE BLOODY ELBOW! shirts would sell like hotcakes

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we should also have a shirt that says

You have just been BannEd!

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 22, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yes it is

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by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

MAKE IT HAPPEN LUKE!!!

I mean that is if you feel like it sir.

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That discussion happened once

Suffice it to say that I don’t think most MMA fans share Luke’s fashion sense.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's happened twice

We were close the second time but it’d disappeared.

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was Luke still insisting on a collar?

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

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by Damon O. on Jul 22, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

facepalm

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buttondown

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus Christ!

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 23, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

WITH SUSPENDERS!

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 23, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

(puts on Fightlinker baseball logo t-shirt)

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 23, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay I lied about the suspenders

But yeah we were figuring out a design that had to be on a button down. Ended up being close to a Fred Perry Logo.

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 23, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey how did we get dragged into this?

But no worries, when the BElitists eventually turn on you (and they will) you can always come back to Mania. Kind of like when the Alpha Betas kick Ogre out of the fraternity and he had no place to go but the Tri-Lambs.

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by Jesse Holland on Jul 23, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha best most accurate response ever

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 23, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Classic!

And don’t forget, the leader of the Tri-Lambs ends up with the hot chick.

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by Donna on Jul 23, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why! because of this!

Every sentence! Every time! Why would you not like this!

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by II SMASH II on Jul 22, 2010 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Truth be told, there is not one message board or comment section, besides BE’s, that is tolerable. Without a doubt, BE has the best comment sections in all of MMA internet media and I don’t need a stupid list to tell me that. By the way, good article Luke.

by KAN0 on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fightopinion gets an honorable mention

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winners:

- MMAjunkie.com

- Fightmagazine.com
(full disclosure: Ben Fowlkes writes for UltimateFighter.com)

-MMAfighting.com
(full disclosure: Ben Fowlkes writes for UltimateFighter.com, Helwani for Versus WEC)

-MMA Live on ESPN2
(UFC’s Kenny Florian and Rashad Events are co-hosts)

- Fighting Words with Mike Straka
(Mike Straka also writes for Ultimatefighter.com)

- Yahoo! Sports

- BleacherReport.com
It’s a one stop shop for anyone who’s a fan of hard-hitting analysis, in-depth interviews, or our own Elliot Olshansky, who can get hard-hitting and in-depth with the best of them. It’s not to be missed.

- UFC.com

- UFC Unleashed

- Countdown to UFC

I am shocked…no, not really.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Just so you know

Strikeforce probably hates us more than the UFC.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 22, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's true

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by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOOOOOOL

if I wasn’t on mobile I’d so rec this.

by Polyhedron on Jul 22, 2010 7:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If this doesn’t get 30+ recs, I will be shocked

by Steve4192 on Jul 22, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This needs three digits of rec’s. I’m sure there are enough folks joined up for that.

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by Rundownloser on Jul 23, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brilliant

Look at it this way. At least it isn't Rowdy Roddy Piper having success in the HW division.

by jmooby on Jul 23, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still trying to figure out why they do

and that goes for either company…you can’t get worked up about what a blogger says but should at least take some criticism well to fix your product that has been under heat.

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bloody Elbows is feared since Luke tricked Dana into giving him an interview.

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by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was great how he did that

though I wish that Dana would be a reoccurring guest.

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wamma can’t stand you. Really, the UFC probably gets the best press.

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by Neil Manich on Jul 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

Writing that a company is heading towards inevitable doom every other week probably doesn’t sit well with them, I reckon.

To be honest, from what I heard, they all hate you guys pretty much equally!
=D

P.S.
I hope Rebney doesn’t unleash hell on you guys anytime soon. ;)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it were only that simple

I know specific pieces and interviews I’ve done they didn’t like. They had nothing to do with inevitable demise.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

to be fair, that IS Kid Nate’s subject of expertise. They DO have a few touchy guys, but nothing has been said that is more drastic than what I have heard from other promotions.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Bellator, do you guys have anything in the works regarding the Dave Herman lawsuit? I’m sure that will get you on their shitlist.

by Steve4192 on Jul 22, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly when did they write that the UFC is heading to inevitable doom? Growth is slowing is not the same as inevitable doom.

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by j.villain on Jul 22, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no way Fowlkes actually wrote that list, is there? I have a good amount of respect for him.

Ribbit.

by Ben Thapa on Jul 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is a blessing in disguise

now one can tell which media is PR BS and look for others when wanting real substance

UFC=McDONALDS and guess who is the clown

by couch-fighter on Jul 22, 2010 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Junkie and MMAFighting are solid sites

The rest are shills.

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind Yahoo! Sports

I really like Dave Meltzer, and Kevin Iole is a nice enough guy, but I hate how they call it their UFC section instead of MMA

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by Brian Hemminger on Jul 22, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

UFC section… at least they are honest about it.

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by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

guys they switched it back to "MMA"

like a long time ago, i’m pretty sure.

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by Goonisis on Jul 22, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh snap

Just realized what it is. Yahoo Sports Canada has it listed as “MMA”. Now that i look at plain old Yahoo! Sports, yeah it says UFC.

My bad.

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by Goonisis on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just went there…

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by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re not even trying to hide it. Ridiculous.

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by Neil Manich on Jul 22, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's ridiculous

But rather the intuitive thing to do for them. They have an NFL section, not a football one. An NHL section, not a hockey one, etc. And really lets face it, the UFC is pretty much to MMA as the NFL is to football. Especially from the perspective of the average Yahoo Sports viewer.

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by Goonisis on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

NFL isn't the only football,

millions of people watch college football, basketball, etc… Every friday night in the fall highschool fields are filled with fans….minor league baseball is very popular…I could go on and on. Not every MMA promotion has to be compared to the UFC. Quality MMA is out there and should be encouraged to grow. I love the UFC’s product, but they only hurt themselves when they bash other MMA.

by Naztuu on Jul 22, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The UFC doesn’t bash other MMA promotions unless they try to directly compete with them, they constantly talk about the need for secondary promotions too (as college sports are to the pro leagues, they need regional developmental leagues in MMA). Heck Dana always talked highly of Strikeforce until they went on CBS and signed Fedor and even then he tends to aim his ire at Showtime executives instead of Scott Coker.

by who me on Jul 22, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You (and many others) have inspired a change in my signature.

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by Marvin Malehooves on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity

What’s wrong with them calling it UFC? They call American Football NFL, Baseball MLB, etc. If boxing actually had a dominant league, the link would surely be labeled as such. The dominant brand, title, whatever you want to call it for MMA, is UFC. Yahoo! is in accordance with that. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same change is made on ESPN.com in the near future.

by PetrozellisJab on Jul 23, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe because the ufc is NOT the nfl of mma

when fighters are getting paid more in other org’s, it’s pretty clear that when ufc says stuff like ’we’re the nfl of mma’, it’s just cheap words. there’s no substance behind them whatsoever. see in other minor league sports, athletes get a small fraction of what the big league players get. but when shane carwin only gets 40k and robbie lawler gets 80k and babalu gets 100k on a wed night, that speaks for itself. mma is mma. and i stopped going to yahoo sports to check up on mma since then.

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that the UFC is the NFL of MMA

Even though I do think that.

I said they are the dominant brand, which is indisputable.

I don’t want to get into a battle about fighter wages with you, but you’re wrong. Just because a handful of fighters make more in disclosed wages in an organization that is surely headed nowhere but down, doesn’t mean that the UFC has a subpar wage scale. Most agree that Carwin’s next contract will be far more substantial than his current one, considering he’ll no longer be fighting the likes of Neil Wane on the undercard.

by PetrozellisJab on Jul 23, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

In addition

There are numerous undisclosed “locker room” bonuses, although I do not know what % of fighters typically receive one in a given event…

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 23, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’d prefer the ‘dominant’ org to handle things like pros and not like mafia or clooge sports. backdoor deals and whatever else.

and about carwin. yeah just like they did to werdum right??

and about that other org clearly headed nowhere but down, that just your plain biased judgement. every mma fan should be in support of that other org. they’ve done nothing to disappoint. they give us what we want. and are doing a great job. their future is looking very bright.

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done nothing to disapoint?

See: Strikeforce Nashville, Strikeforce: Evolution, etc. Or even that Brett Rogers fights for the title after losing to Fedor. Yeah, nothing but rainbows and sunshine over there.

Werdum had lost to Arlovski, and gotten KOd by, at that time, an unknown JDS. He wanted more money, UFC offered less, he walked, end of discussion. Carwin will get more money, period.

As far as the UFC’s business tactics, who are we to judge? We wouldn’t even be having this discussion if it wasn’t for the UFC. Say what you will, but what they’ve done is evolve and legitimize the sport in a way that no other org has, or could have done. Yes, even Pride. I won’t insult your intelligence or MMA knowledge by reminding you how those turned out.

by PetrozellisJab on Jul 23, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, at work

By those, I was referring to their shows in the States. They did poorly.

by PetrozellisJab on Jul 23, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Junkie is always solid, a must read imo and MMAFighting has a whole crew of reporters with their fingers on the pulse

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by ultmma on Jul 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BE and MiddleEasy are the two sites I legitimately check

Zeus has been awesome about his sunday morning rumor mill…and he posts awesome videos that no one else does.

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

cagepotato

Go big red!

by pornflake on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cage Potatoe is perfect because they love to call out BS and throw it in the spotlight. They’re also one of the more humorous sites that also isnt afraid to take shots at fighters when its completely warranted. did you see their recent photoshop contest???

by Jonnycaz2.0 on Jul 22, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

CP sucks now

Has since Fowlkes left. The Russell guy has come off as a mad tool ever since the whole redengine debacle.

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by Tim Burke on Jul 22, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agree about Fowlkes

But he was able to carry his humor over to MMAfighting

by Matthew DiRienzo on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely. MMAFighting quickly became a top MMA site.

http://www.instrength.com

by Tim Burke on Jul 22, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their comments are HORRIBLE

But I do enjoy some of their articles. And their Friday link dump is always fun.

by PetrozellisJab on Jul 23, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

eh, no. MMAFighting is one of my favorites and I enjoy watching Ariel’s interviews as well as the MMA Hour.

by handlas on Jul 22, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I do have to say I visit this site as much as MMAFighting (and Middleeasy). So…my list would just be those 3 sites.

by handlas on Jul 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody cares what you think

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

MMAfighting often has good news pieces, but the commentary there sounds at best like freshman lunch at a high school.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 23, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Luke, with this little “editorial” you just got you taken off the list of people who will receive a Pinkberry gift basket from Dana White.

Yeah…how about that.

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yo yo yo Luke,

I’mma let you finish, but Snowden and Nate or the BEST haters on BE.

ALL OF YOU LISTEN TO MEE, DON'T DISTURB HERE, I WILL CALL POLICE CATCH YOU, DON'T COME TO MY BANGOLOW HOUSE, UNDERSTAND, O.K. I HATE ALL OF YOU.

by Chris Barton on Jul 22, 2010 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Great article.

If you want to write an article critical of Zuffa, this is how you do it.

by Polyhedron on Jul 22, 2010 7:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

My Thoughts

"Daydreams of a 'fair' world which would treat him according to his 'real worth' are the refuge of all those plagued by a lack of self-knowledge." -- Ludwig von Mises.

by IKilled007 on Jul 22, 2010 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

And you're entitled to that opinion.

There’s no way to write something like this without having others say I’m sad I didn’t get picked.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 22, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If BE had been listed 1st

instead of not at all, what would you have written?

"Daydreams of a 'fair' world which would treat him according to his 'real worth' are the refuge of all those plagued by a lack of self-knowledge." -- Ludwig von Mises.

by IKilled007 on Jul 22, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are 10 years to early with this, Dana isn’t ready.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha I doubt it

More like “The cream rises to the top.”

"Daydreams of a 'fair' world which would treat him according to his 'real worth' are the refuge of all those plagued by a lack of self-knowledge." -- Ludwig von Mises.

by IKilled007 on Jul 22, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

"SUP BITCHES"

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Fightlinker.com

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

To the best of my knowledge, MMA Junkie has never said one critical word about Zuffa. That’s most likely why they’re in the top slot.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

That's because they're primarily a news site, as opposed to a blog.

They have great sources and break a lot of stories, but rarely offer their own opinions.

by ZacL2012 on Jul 22, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you ever listened to their radio show? They’ve never questioned anything, ever, on the site .And that’s fine – that’s not their format .But it’s obvious that’s the reason why Zuffa likes them.I f Junkie asked tough questions and presented a real journalistic format where they analyzied what was going on in the sport instead of just presenting the latest news, Zuffa would banish them too.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 22, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They did change their name from UFCJunkie to MMAJunkie, which was, I thought, a nice gesture.

by capital L on Jul 23, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Junkie is alright - the comment section

I like MMA fighting.

RIP Phil Harris. I'll miss you man

by II SMASH II on Jul 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

complain much?

Hey simon, why don’t you get off my nuts. Man. And I thought you’re mom was annoying. Comments like that make me look like a 15 yr old right? I’m just messing with you’s. Simon, truth is I make a lot of good points. Like here, no one mentioned inside mma, which has always been the best and most informative mma show for year. The ufc and fanboy bashing is to even out the haters who stink up junkies message boards. I do it to get a rise out of the people who deserve it. Sf gets bashed for everything and anything. Yet all they do is stage great fights. So let’s point out the glaring holes in ufcs game too.

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

for year(s)

Duh. Phone keyboard…

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What?

That’s my response to the inane bable you posted.

Next time you feel the need to act like senseless “mma fan” and post a rambling, bad grammar filled jumble of words, do it where you are feel comfortable, at mmafighting.

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by Simon Cason on Jul 25, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, and I hope you feel great about this, but my mom died 3 years ago.

So for your sake, I hope we never met each other as I’ll either go to jail for thrashing a 15 year old, or embarrass the hell out of you by showing you the difference between talking shit on a keyboard and in real life.

"Like the echoes of your childhood laughter, ever after
Like the first time love urged you to take it’s guidance, in silence
Like your heartbeat when you realize you’re dying, but you’re trying
Like the way you cry for a happy ending, ending…"

by Simon Cason on Jul 25, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

MMA Fighting

is pretty awesome.

Really surprised FightLinker didn’t make the list…

I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...

by xAtlasx on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

MMAFighting is great

Helwani and Fowlkes are hardly shills.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on Jul 22, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i prefer mma fighting

They only post when they get the news themselves. They’re very reliable and most importantly are very un-biased. And the comments section isn’t over-run with fanboys.

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 10:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

True, but the comments section is over-run by those

Who sound like a bunch of kids that either just discovered MMA or have IQs ranging from moronic to idiotic…perhaps both.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 23, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they add MMA Logic to the writing, then they make the list.

Dana’s been looking to pawn him off on somebody, he scares the guests at the UFC offices with ranting.

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to figure out how critical eyes even came across this “list” in the first place. I really can’t see Luke Thomas getting his TUF.com fix over his morning coffee.

by casey manrique on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Just the other day we made a comparison to the UFC and one party rule. This list really cements that analogy.

by John Nash on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

This isn't surprising

Its annoying, but its not surprising. It almost felt like you were just going through the motions here Luke. I’m glad you wrote it, but isn’t it getting old writing about this? This is your Sisyphean task.

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by Neil Manich on Jul 22, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Greatest movie of all time.

Greatest character of all time. Walter is a really close second.

Fuck it dude, lets go bowling.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 22, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blond Treehorn Thug: [holding up a bowling ball] What the fuck is this?
The Dude: Obviously you’re not a golfer.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 22, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebowski by arm bar, just saying

by Huggy Bear on Jul 23, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’re talking about unchecked aggression here, dude.

by pud333 on Jul 23, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Smokey, this is not ’Nam. This is bowling. There are rules.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 23, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bleacher Report is so worthless it's almost funny

I guess it just posts enough suckup articles to get in…

Travis Lutter is not the Michael Jordan of BJJ

by Mattyjudo on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

In the spirit of this list

I too have compiled a list of my closest supporters.

1) My mom. She says I’m handsome and that any girl would be lucky to have me.
2) That dude outside my work that I give change to.
3) My dealer. I’m probably putting his kids through college.

by pud333 on Jul 22, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

no child left behind

"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"

by Barack Lesnar on Jul 23, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, you’d be kind of surprised…

by pud333 on Jul 23, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bleacher Report being on there cracked me up, but this part did stick out to me:

Other Notables:

MMAweekly.com, Fightopinion.com, Fighters.com, and for the East Coast fighting scene, Tristatefighter.com.

I don’t see Fight Opinion as a pro-Zuffa site at all. After seeing the list I was surprised they made the “UFC shill websites” list. Wonder what Zach Arnold thinks about his site being mentioned?

by who me on Jul 22, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Yeah...

I found that to be odd as well.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw that too. Very cool indeed.

by JustBleed on Jul 22, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am surprised to see Zach Arnold’s site FightOpinion.com there at the very bottom with “Other Notables”. He never pulls any punches with Zuffa and it’s a great site for some fantastic insight and opinions, but I would of never imagined them acknowledging him. Pretty cool to see.

by JustBleed on Jul 22, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Honestly, with the exception of Bleacher report, that whole list is pretty good. Luke is making mountains out of molehills.

by Steve4192 on Jul 23, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to say

that this is a really well written piece. Luke, you are clearly an educated man. I’d like it if you posted more often.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 22, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Shocking!!! What next? The UFC Hall of Fame… isn’t a real hall of fame? McDonalds.com’s list of the top 10 hamburgers of all time is biased? I tremble at the thought of the mind-shattering Lovecraftian revelations that may yet be to come.

by Jahbulon on Jul 22, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Take it like a confirmation then.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

fail

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

So should I feel good or bad about not being on this list?

Sergio Non,
MMA writer, USA TODAY
http://mma.usatoday.com

by Sergio Non on Jul 22, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Feel good. If you are on the same list as Bleacher Report, kill yourself. It’s the wal-mart of journalism.

http://mmascraps.net

by fedor291 on Jul 22, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say that suicide is an appropriate action there.

"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-

by Neil Manich on Jul 22, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Fighting and Junkie are good sites.

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by RobertGBP on Jul 22, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I look at it two ways

Making that list will essentially add to your readership you didn’t have before hand, but do you really want to be on a list that doesn’t actually look at the sport as a whole?

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by Matthew Roth on Jul 22, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make your own list but remember, it’s bad form to put yourself at number one so just tack yourself on at the end like Zuffa just did. :D

by who me on Jul 22, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take a job working for the promotions you cover. Don’t bother to disclose that in any of your articles. You’ll be on your way!

by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 22, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here’s the thing. I’ve heard of and seen about 95% of the sites listed on there and the ones everyone is mentioning. I honestly never knew there was theultimatefighter.com. I always figure ufc.com was it. As much as I like UFC, do you really need two web sites. And do you need to boost up your other websites with each other. That is the equivilant of me say “let me tell you how great my brother is” and my brother replying with the same answer. It would be more credible if they didn’t pat themselves on the back

Choke yourself. Use my hand.

by jailhouse on Jul 22, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

- Fighting Words with Mike Straka

When I saw that I wondered how Straka made the list. Especially when Inside MMA didn’t and they have a lot higher a UFC participants on average. Then I saw the next line.


(Mike Straka also writes for Ultimatefighter.com)

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by j.villain on Jul 22, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Inside MMA

so espn mma live is good but inside mma is definitely a better show for mma. more fun and more mma coverage. kenny florian is clearly ufc biased.

by PipRocks on Jul 22, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

simon says

Seems like you’re the only one cmplaining about the comments section on mma fighting. You sound like a loser.

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Then you missed mine...

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 23, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be a dick or anything, but haven't other posters been banned for acting like a dick and reverting to senseless name calling.

All I did was point out big of a shill this guy is when it comes to the Strikeforce/UFC debate. The guy has nothing positive to say about the UFC and creams his pants when it comes to SF comments. Don’t belive me, check it out. The worst thing about this guy is the fact that most of the posters over at mmafighting are newer fans who take this guy for his word. Not all of them as evidenced by the amount of negative marks he gets on alot of comments. I’d reasonably debate him there but everytime I try to create an account, it seems to act retarded and just doesn’t seem to act right.

Word of advice Pip, don’t come to BE expecting to act and say the same things you do over at mmaF. You won’t win, you’ll get trounced with the pathetic marking out over SF if you try that trolling shit here. Just saying. Next time you feel the need to reply to one of my comments, try to come up with something more original than “SImon Says”. We used that in kindergarden. At least have the balls to use your real name instead of hiding behind BOTH your computer screen AND a fake name.

You come off as someone who has an agenda, i.e. wanting (wishing) the UFC to fail, which I for one have never understood why someone calling themselves an MMA fan would want in a million years. Unless you are indeed a troll, then troll one my man. Just don’t expect any sympathy when you get busted out for acting like a dick on a much more respected MMA news forum.

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Like the first time love urged you to take it’s guidance, in silence
Like your heartbeat when you realize you’re dying, but you’re trying
Like the way you cry for a happy ending, ending…"

by Simon Cason on Jul 25, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That was awesome.

I think you just relayed the sentiments of everyone who has ever had a conversation with this guy.

by PetrozellisJab on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why didn’t they list “Commenter AboveThisFire on BloodyElbow.com”? This is clearly the question we should all be asking ourselves and the UFC.

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by Patrick Tenney on Jul 22, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think the role of TUF, the media climate in Washington or BE’s exclusion from the list is all that relevant. This isn’t about conforming to a certain opinion of things as much as it is about Zuffa’s unethical attempts to own the media that covers them. I don’t know if UFC/Spike employees like Ariel Helwani and Ben Fowlkes are being given cues as to what they should be talking and writing about, I just know they’re way too close to their subjects for comfort.

Since BE is on the outside looking in at this UFC media cabal, I’d like to see someone do some digging on this story. What are the specific economic relationships between Zuffa and AOL, Yahoo etc.? How do these relationships affect the editorial directions of these outlets and how they select staff? What benefits do connected media members like Helwani get out of these relationships that the non-connected don’t? What are the drawbacks? And perhaps most importantly, how are the media consuming MMA fans affected? And do they even care? An earnest discussion of these aspects of the story is important. If you just gloss over the systemic aspects, it only invites and encourages a smug outlook, e.g. “Oh, this is just Zuffa doing what they always do. LOL at anyone who finds this noteworthy or at all deserving of any discussion! KEKEKEKEKE”

by smoogy2 on Jul 22, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I will drive by Junkie and MMAfighting for news updates

But very rarely log in, and can’t leave without a headache when I do.

BE is just a totally different animal than those sites, more like the op-ed section than the news section, both in terms of content and commenters…

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 22, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Saying Bleacher Report is a good media source

Is like saying Emmitt Smith is very articulate. But…BUT!!! He is athletic and explosive.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 22, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Media manipulation in Sports is in no way unique to the UFC

The NFL is also guilty of this “Playmakers” being Exhibit A.

 Writers such as Ariel Helwani, MDS and the like are MMA’s answer to Chris Mortensen, Adam Schefter, John Clayton etc. Basically there the sports insiders we need those types of writers.

by MattParker117 on Jul 22, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

MMA Junkie is my favorite MMA New site

BE is my favorite for MMA coverage though.

I won’t lie… I like Sherdog too, but I read it for the article.

by truck on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I love MMA Junkie

The comments however….

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 22, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't bother with the comments

I don’t enter Sherdog boards either.

BE is the best for discussion far and away.

by truck on Jul 22, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sherdog is good for fight finder and Pro's Picks,

But that is about it…

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 22, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sherdog is great for their grappling, suplements and nutrition forums.

by Benicio on Jul 22, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Junkie for the news and i like junkie radio
Sherdog for the radio there boards are just tooo funny i look at them every now and a again
BE is the best for discussion and opinion

i dont get why people hate on junkies board though

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by MaZZacare on Jul 22, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Junkie is a great news site

But their comments section…not as bad as MMAfightings, but that’s not saying much…

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 22, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every once in a while

I like to lob a verbal grenade on there, then return later to assess the damage…

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 22, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish more people did

i thought i was the only one trying to stir things up on there.

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

You would think

That people would learn to expect that after a while…

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Jul 23, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to quibble with a minor point in an excellent article

but I live in DC too, and those so-called beta males are, you know, running the free world.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Monte Fisto on Jul 22, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Some, yes

But most in true leadership positions aren’t. And those betas who are don’t get my respect.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 22, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

the list is rubbish…

but does the average UFC fan really care that much to dig into the ins and outs of the business. the good and not so good of the business?

i think the ppl who read ultimatefighter.com would be different to the crowd that like to delve deeper into the business. for the targetted fan of that site, the list probably caters well for them. they can go find out some more fighter news/fight announcements etc

the ppl who care more will find the good sites like BE. but for the more casual fan, they probably want to just enjoy the sport for wat it is, so the UFC shill sites cater to them perfectly. UFC is an entertainment sport, so by and large at lot of ppl will just want to be entertained and could care less about the negatives/inner workings of the game

BE is the only mma site i read. thats because im interested in delving deeper into sport… but that doesnt mean everyone else does

by milson on Jul 22, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly don’t have a problem with any site on the list outside of the Bleacher Report. They left a few off that I would have included (BE being one of them), but I would hardly call the list rubbish.

by Steve4192 on Jul 23, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have no problem

With some of the most established journalists being on the UFC payroll (between that site and UFC Magazine) and in turn reporting on them in non-UFC media outlets? And on top of that, being dubbed in their “formal” capacities as “best in the sport” by the UFC? That’s an awfully unethical feedback loop and hugely problematic.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 23, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

No worse than what happens in politic or a million other places.

It should be expected to a degree. Anyone with a brain should know to take those type of lists (sponsored by any company) with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this world who don’t have brains.

by truck on Jul 23, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

"It should be expected to a degree."

Well, that settles it. Back inside everyone. Nothing to see.

What’s really driving it, just FYI, are economic conditions. In order to generate the kind of content that’s easier to monetize, you need access to those subjects that are more likely to pull in eyeballs, visits and downloads. Those are generally more upper echelon names or entities. To get access to most of those players in a meaningful way (having Chuck Liddell in your headline is not tantamount to publishing an original interview with Chuck Liddell since you are for more likely to get outbound linked and placed high in Google’s search hierarchy) you need the UFC’s blessing. Sherdog is the exception to the rule in a profound way and they’ll stay on online if for no other reason than the SEO their Fight Finder provides. To work full time you need full time access and since much of that is controlled in the UFC’s palm, today’s media can be very hand in glove.

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by Luke Thomas on Jul 23, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the frustration...

I am not saying I think it is right, I just saying that you had full well that you wouldn’t be on the list before you read it. Based on some of the material from here there was a 0% chance. Aside from changing the tone of some articles (which wouldn’t be all bad) there really isn’t much that can be done about it either.

by truck on Jul 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best Journalists in the Sport

All the guys from Sherdog (esp. Jordan and Tony L) aside from Blogger Jake Rossen
Dan Herbertson (mmafighting)
Danny Acosta (Fight Mag)
Josh Gross (Sports Illustraded)
Ariel Helwani for his Interviews

by KOQ24 on Jul 23, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Rossen

I suggest you peruse his long-form offerings, such as Pride & Glory, and reconsider his qualities.

by capital L on Jul 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

'The Best MMA Site' would hands down BE-

If MMA Junkie or MMA Fighting were more similiar to Facebook, fans could have their own community website that’s just for mma fans with their own customized profile. Instead of having to keep refreshing pages throughout the day, fans could simply get text messages to their phones whenever a new story gets dropped or if someone replies to a comment you made. (would have made my life much easier for me that’s fo damb sho :) Although it’s been fun wanting to be the first to know when big news drops, i’d much prefer to just get a text on my phone that reads ‘The war is over. Strikeforce signs Fedor’ and not have to be scrambling computers for weeks. Everyone could have their own profile with their mma pics, favorite fighters, org’s and they could customize their profiles to be updated to whatever they choose- org’s, fighters, and friends. that’s the PipRock who makes good points every once in a while and actually a good sense. I should patent that shit right there.

And here’s the PipRock who just likes fucking with people. For those of you who want to be the biggest Fanboy in the history of all Fanboys, it could be really easy too! They could have a ‘EZ Fanboy’ feature when creating your profile that automatically puts your profile into ‘UFM- Ultimate Fanboy Mode’. You wouldn’t know anything about anything except ufc. That sounds like a great website. But if ufc didn’t approve, then they would just get sued for using the name ‘Ultimate’. And eventually we’d be stuck with just Yahoo Sports after ufc is done waging war on everyone non-ufc owned. -And hopefully I don’t get sued for this. I saved my old cable bills with the ufc ppv’s on em just in case. Maybe they won’t press charges when they see I was buying ppv’s when the sport was just starting. I should just patent the word ‘hello’ to help raise money for my legal fees so I don’t go in debt for writing the word ultmate in a non-ufc context. But no, seriously I always thought the word ultimate was kinda cheesy. The Ultimate Fighting Championship. That sounds so ‘Extreme Combat’. Just something about the name, I always though it was weak since day 1. It was fitting back then I guess, when I assumed the guy with the biggest arms would win by murder. :D I honestly like the Strikeforce name. IFL was good, but a little too generic. Too Major League Baseball’ish. King of the Cage is a good name.

by PipRocks on Jul 23, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The article has been pulled.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 25, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

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