Tito Ortiz Faces Matt Hamill at UFC 121 in October
by Scott Haber on Jul 22, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
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Although recent rumors suggested that Tito Ortiz would return to the Octagon for a rubber match against Forrest Griffin in October, Mike Chiapetta at MMA Fighting has learned this is not the case, and confirmed with UFC president, Dana White, that Ortiz will fight Matt Hamill at UFC 121 in Anaheim, California:
A source with knowledge of the situation told MMA Fighting that "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" will face Matt Hamill at UFC 121, and UFC President Dana White subsequently confirmed the matchup in a text message.
The match-up is intriguing as Ortiz coached Hamill on the third season of The Ultimate Fighter, where the two bonded closely. Ortiz, who is progressing well in his recovery from spinal surgery, has often spoken fondly of Hamill, but the two will put that relationship aside in October.
The rumored card for 121 now includes:
Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill
Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Court McGee vs. Ryan Jensen
Chris Camozzi vs. Dongi Yang
Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor
Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor
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THIS CARD IS SICK!
I predict it will break the previous buy-rate, assuming no injuries.
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Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
hammill by ko
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
He couldn't KO Jardine
He’s not going to KO Tito. He could win a decision though.
by PetrozellisJab on Jul 22, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He also had a staph infection and badly hurt Jardine in the 2nd before the eyepoke
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Jarine should quit fighting.
Jardine got lucky because clearly he has no chin.
Hammil by superior speaking skills…
for the first time in his career.
A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.
by MMArazorback on Jul 22, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Tito's going down.
Tito has nothing in his arsenal to win this fight. He is going up against a better wrester with more punching power. TITO, RIP, your shamrock like run to the bottom has just started to begin.
Holy crap
What the heck are you going to put on the prelims?
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
cote vs lawlor
mcgee vs jansen on free prelims
stout doesnt get shown and everything else main card
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Why no Stout/Taylor?
I know that fight would go to a decision but at least it would be entertaining.
I’d like to see Cote/Lawlor and Stout/Taylor on the prelims but McGee fighting mucks everything up.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
You gotta show Stout/Taylor
and btw, I called this shit
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
its between cote lawlor and stout taylor for that last free prelim spot in my opinion
im assuming mcgee would get it for being a TUF winner
hopefully they throw mcgee on the untelevised portion and show stout taylor and cote lawlor but i dont really see that happening
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Have they ever thrown a TUF winner on the untelevised card for his first post-show fight?
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
nothing comes to mind off the top of my head
no reason to think mcgee will be the “first” (didnt look it up just assuming) since hes a good story
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
I saw a recent interview with Jensen
where he made reference to the upcoming McGee fight being televised…so I assume that one’s a lock for the Spike prelims.
Question
Do sponsor pay more money if you’re on the Spike prelims as opposed to the PPV? Prelims have more eyeballs.
Contracts are done on an individual basis
but usually it’s televised/untelevised, not focusing on Spike vs. PPV. I’m interested to see if that changes now that the prelim specials are becoming more frequent, but I doubt there will be a difference unless there’s significant market research to support one being greater than the other.
Honestly, I think the PPV is a better place for sponsors. It ends up on DVDs, you get the full walkout/banner, and most importantly, the viewership is guaranteed to be willing to spend money on MMA. The last part is key.
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I've got a horrifying feeling Tito will take this by decision
WAR HAMILL!!!!
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Never
Not going to happen , Hamil has better wrestling then tito which will negate his whole game. If tito can’t get the upper hand in the wresting dept then he usually loses.
How do you know Hamil has better wrestling?
by Darren Watkins on Jul 23, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Hamill hasn’t even been using his wrestling lately in his fights, so I find it hard to see that Hamilll would have better wrestling than Tito. Hamill is very strong, but he has not come across as particularly fast, and I haven’t seen anything in his shot for takedowns that shows me that he has that great of takedowns.
by chrisbboy82 on Jul 23, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that and Jons Jones destroyed hamil in the wrestling department and he never wrestled in college. Hamill has some over rated mma wrestling.
by Darren Watkins on Jul 23, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously though, there are 2-3 fights that would've been perfect for 120
Namely Stout/Taylor and Schaub/Gonzaga.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
I think the UFC will get a 2 million buy show by 2012
Headlined by Brock with the rest of the card featuring explosive black guys.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Hamill
by death.
Younger, Faster, better MMA wrestler.
No way he loses this, as long as he survives the first round Tito is done.
I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...
I just want to point out the first sentence of your sig is perfect
When talking about Tito Ortiz.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
They're gonna keep making Hamill fight friends and training partners...
…until UFC 130: Hamill vs. His MOM.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
My thoughts exactly. Except for the mom part, only you would come up with that.
Having Tito fight Hammil is pretty fucked up considering the bromance they had on TUF.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Yeah, they have seemed really close, and Ortiz seemed to really love the guy.
"Caol Uno was like Mutoh. He developed into a star overseas and then returned to his home country a much bigger deal. Dokojanuse Mishima is like Kobashi because they both do moonsaults. Don Frye is like Stan Hansen because they are both fat dumb rednecks with mustaches." - Jonathan Snowden
by RagingNoodles on Jul 22, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I do what I can
…to bring a little something into your life every day.
Some days, that special something is Matt Hamill’s mom.
Wait…
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If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
It's a message.
A message for AKA.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Jul 22, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec to Llewdor
You listening, AKA?
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rofl
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by MrTechnique420 on Jul 22, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the fight isn’t happening and all, but who in the blue hell would want a rubber match between Forrest and Tito…outside of Tito?
"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"
Agreed
I wanna see Tito fight guys who are gonna beat him up much worse. He’d be a nice convenient stepping-stone for Bones Jones to really become a recognised name. And yes, I do dislike Tito enough to wanna see it
Travis Lutter is not the Michael Jordan of BJJ
He will have to really piss Dana off again
To either be sent to his attack dog (Machida) or his executioner (Jones)…
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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 22, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Taylor v Stout is a fantastic bit of matchmaking
Perfect bout to stick on Spike and instantly get a few thousand more PPVs.
Despite his utterly 1-dimensional nature I can’t help rooting for Taylor as he’s from the town right next to where I grew up and we hence we share the same comedy accent. Nice to see him in a winnable matchup for once :)
Travis Lutter is not the Michael Jordan of BJJ
PPV Beast!
Damn! This card is really gonna sell well if it comes to fruitition. This looks like a really great card with some big names on it. Can’t wait!
fruition*
Even when I'm laying on my back I'm never backing down
by Austin Martin on Jul 22, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This card is just ridiculous
Wasn’t Hamill sponsored by Punishment athletics at one point as well?
dead vs dumb
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by some schmuck in texas on Jul 22, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
deaF!
my fingers suck
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by some schmuck in texas on Jul 22, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No you had it right the first time
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Jul 22, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gonzaga vs Shaub? Was it announced? Might be damn good fight.
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
Never mind, had it under my nose.
"...ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it's the only good fight there is."
by dancingChicken on Jul 22, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Evidence to prove so?
The only thing that is clear to all humans is simplicity.
by MrTechnique420 on Jul 22, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
he's a warrior
but you’re right, he’s pushing himself way too soon. spinal surgeries are not to be f’d with.
"she told me she was on the pill." me
FINALLY
Ive been waiting all year for a stacked card like this, UFC 116 didn’t cut it for me although I think it was the best UFC of 2010 so far, this should surpass it easily if these bouts are actually going to happen.
The only thing that is clear to all humans is simplicity.
If UFC 116 didn't do it for you, you must not watch much MMA.
by Riney on Jul 22, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Definition of casual
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
so you judge a card on pre fight hype and what people tell you? Some of the best cards and fights I have seen are the ones people usually skip b/c the card doesnt “look” good. I wouldnt even call you a casual fan
by Darren Watkins on Jul 23, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve probabably watched more MMA than your eyes could even bare whether in or outside of a cage. UFC 116 was amazing but not 10/10, Brock vs Carwin was the biggest HW battle in the UFC, but it was not the all time best fight. Casual fans don’t comepete in MMA btw.
The only thing that is clear to all humans is simplicity.
by MrTechnique420 on Jul 26, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
sould be interesting……untill Gabe chokes him the fuck out.
When Josh Barnett pisses in a cup, magic comes out.
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...
This is a good fight. Tito, for his faults stayed competitive with Rashad Evans and Forrest Griffin, two elite level light heavyweights, and he almost submitted Lyoto Machida. He’s really, really shop worn, but he can still hang in there with the elite in the division.
Matt Hamill is no where near elite, but he should still beat Tito. He’s essentially a slightly younger version of Tito, with less health problems. Tito is a better submission grappler, but I kind of doubt that this fight goes to the ground. This is probably going to be a sloppy kick boxing match, with Hamill landing the better shots on the inside. It will be close and competitive though. I wouldn’t be suprised if it was a split decision- the donk judges just love Tito for some reason. But Tito will end up getting beat up pretty bad, one way or another.
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I think Tito is shot
Hamill either humps him into oblivion or TKO’s him.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Tito is shot, but he’s damn hard to finish. Only Chuck has been able to finish him in the last ten years. Hamill just doesn’t have the offensive output to hurt Ortiz and put him away. For God’s sake, Hamill couldn’t put away Keith Jardine.
Facts are facts, and Tito still took Forrest Griffin and Rashad Evans to competitive decisons. I think he could do the same with Matt Hamill. It will probably be close enough that a certain portion of donks out there think that Tito won, just like in the last fight with Forrest. But Hamill will beat him up, one way or another.
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Sounds vaguely familiar...think it was UFC 96...can't put my finger on it...who else is this true about...
For God’s sake,Hamill??? couldn’t put away Keith Jardine.
I’m drawing a blank…
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Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 22, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 22, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
What a loaded card
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Tito trash talking a deaf guy?
by juggs mcgillicutty on Jul 22, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Hamill won't have to hear a thing Tito says
And for that I’m extremely jealous.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
by SSreporters on Jul 22, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
rec'd
i’m just curious to see how Tito is going to get himself psyched for this fight…he usually does it w/shit talking, or b/c he likes to hear his loud mouth yap, but how do you shit talk Hamill?? should be interesting
"she told me she was on the pill." me
The fact that he REALLY likes Hamill,is going to put a damper on it as well.
The UFC is really pushing this “friends fighting friends” thing. I guess they have to do something while they can’t get the AKA vs AKA matchups they want.
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I think the situations are slightly different...
It sucks having to fight for your friend, but when your job is being a fighter, you fight.
It’s a little different though when you’re asked to fight people you train with. Those are the ones who help you get ready for your fights and probably know your weaknesses. Who does the coach back when you have a situation like that? It’s never an ideal situation when you see it on TUF – extremely less so when you’re in the UFC for real. And as far as I know Hamill and Tito haven’t actually trained together since TUF.
They trained for roughly a year together, off and on, after TUF. Tito actually hurt his knee training with Hamill in preperation for the first Forrest Griffin fight after TUF had finished filming.
The reason Hamill didn’t train with Tito more is that he couldn’t afford to travel out to the west coast. It was actually a minor news story at the time, that Hamill was trying to raise funds to travel to train with Tito before one of his fights (I believe it was the one against Petruzelli).
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Thanks for the info...
If he hasn’t trained with him since the first Forrest fight…that’s what, 4 years ago? The Hamill/Ortiz match-up is still surprising to see, but understandable from my perspective as they don’t actively train together anymore.
They trained after that. I’m pretty sure Tito used Hamill in training for Rashad, IIRC. But it’s been at least 3 years, maybe closer to 4 since they’ve trained together.There’s still a good relationship there though, much like with Hamill and Franklin.
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Post fight
Tito: I should’ve won the fight if it wasn’t for my crack skull AND staph infection I caught rubbing backs with Hamill throughout the fight.
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
Post fight
Tito: I came in this about 25%. I’ll need total skelital replacement so see ya next year. I also hurt my whaaa whaaa whaaa sniff sniff
I like this matchup for Tito.
As long as he is sufficiently healed from his surgery (and I don’t want to hear ANY bitching from him after the fight if this isn’t the case) this is a perfect stylistic matchup for him to make a competitive fight. Hamill is by no means a can and it doesn’t seem like he would destroy Tito either.
tito is tito
he will bitch anytime anywere….win or lose
EPIC
I was stoked just for the jake shields vs kapman and brock vs cain…now we have tito vs hamill and schaub vs gonzaga….hell yes
Tito is going to gas again
Tito returned after a year and a half off vs Forrest, was rusty and gassed after the first round. Now Tito is going to return again after 11 months off and is going to be rusty and gas again.
by Matthew DiRienzo on Jul 22, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
Duffee vs madsen just added
according to mmajunkie!
Fuck
Duffee’s going to get humped into oblivion.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe he will
The guy is 3-0 in the UFC
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Against Wren, Al-Turk, and Vemola
Not exactly a murderer’s row of fighters there. Two of them aren’t exactly in great shape either (and they’ve both been released from the UFC).
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Wren is solid (and very, very young)
He’ll be back
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Madsen is 3-0 against garbage opponents. Madsen might be the worst fighter to ever go 3-0 in the UFC. Mike Russow is a much better wrestler than Jon Madsen and he couldn’t do shit to Duffee.
Madsen got his brains blown out by Brendan Shaub.I don’t think Duffee is going to have many problems with him.
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When I say Russow couldn’t do shit to Duffee,I meant in the wrestling department obviously.
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I got that
It’s just that Madsen doesn’t have the gameplanning brain farts that plagued Russow – he’s going to make it into a wrestling match, and you either need to be decent enough to fend him off or awesome enough at other things to negate it.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Trust me,Duffee has the take down defense to fend off Jon Madsen.Shaub was able to get out from under him almost instantly and knock his head off his shoulders.The only reason Madsen has done so well in the UFC is that he’s fought guys with either zero wrestling (Vemola) or zero offensive output.
Duffee isn’t great,by any means,but he’s good enough to knock out Jon Madsen. If he can’t beat Madsen, he doesn’t belong in the UFC at all.
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Well that just blew up part of my fanpost for HW matchmaking
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
on a separate note
I’m not liking this matchup this early on for Schaub…but, he asked for a step-up in competition and he got it. Big opportunity for him here.
"she told me she was on the pill." me
What does he know?
He thought fighting Drago was a good idea.
by BilboMcFonzie on Jul 22, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
that's blasphemy!
Apollo coined the phrase “Eye of the Tiger”. Survivor baby!
"she told me she was on the pill." me
He knows one day he might just become....
Supervisor!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14qeu7JRwt0
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
If I didn't know anything about Tito, I would think "poor Tito". But as it is......
Hit me again Tube Sock!
Don't underestimate Tito
A case can be made that he won both rounds 1 and 2, and that second loss to Forrest was a split-decision with over a year off.
Tito’s problem is that when wrestlers fight each other they tend to cancel ear other out, and Hamill is by FAR the better striker.
Vote Quimby
I hope Tito fights Jon Jones eventually, that would be a very entertaining fight
by kanodogg on Jul 22, 2010 5:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not for Tito...
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 22, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And the DUFFMAN is fighting at 121 now too!
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20021/todd-duffee-vs-jon-madsen-latest-addition-to-ufc-121-card.mma
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Look up the thread buddy.
"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"
Damn...
I just did a quick glance. I always fuck that up.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Be afraid...be very afraid
That much awesomeness on one card may rip the very fabric of time and space.
The Haldron Collidor won’t end the world….UFC 121 will.
by MMA_Messiah on Jul 22, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If we survive UFC 119 that is
I'm a lover not a fighter
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
UFC 119: Too Many Nogueiras
Check your local listings.
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If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
The Nogueira peeking out of Mir’s left shoulder kills me, haha.
"Caol Uno was like Mutoh. He developed into a star overseas and then returned to his home country a much bigger deal. Dokojanuse Mishima is like Kobashi because they both do moonsaults. Don Frye is like Stan Hansen because they are both fat dumb rednecks with mustaches." - Jonathan Snowden
by RagingNoodles on Jul 22, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck Indiana
I should go to this instead.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
Do it dude.
Lucky me I live like 15 mins away from Anaheim. I feel like my head is gonna explode every time they keep adding new fights to this card. I really don’t know how any card the rest of this year will even get close to being this stacked and awesome.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Jul 22, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Tito is not getting a PPV cut of this, b/c he is not bringing that many extra buys to a card with Lesnar on it.
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He’s getting a cut, and that’s exactly why he wants on this card. His comeback fight was supposed to be on the same card as Brock and when he dropped out that probably cost Tito seven figures so I’m guessing Dana is doing this as a favor to him.
Well, so much for Jake Shields having to carry the card
It’s gonna be awhile before we can judge if the UFC can get their money’s worth out of Shields. I don’t think he’ll move the needle at all on this stacked card.
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A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
But this gives shields a chance to show everyone how good he is. This is a sacked card and should have a ton of eye balls on it and will give sheilds a platform if he performs well to become a draw.
by Darren Watkins on Jul 23, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Man, I hate this fight
I really do. I love Matt Hammil, one of my favorite fighters. He couldn’t put his all into fighting Rich Frankli, so I can’t imagine what he does here. I wonder if Matt’s reaction was like when he found out he wasn’t fighting is the semi-finals. “I fighting who? Tito. No way”
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 22, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
Hamill is deaf, not retarded.
“You’re asking me if I want to fight Tito? Okay, sure.” He has to OK every fight, just like all other fighters.
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Jul 22, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know he's not retarded simpleton
I was simply playing of his reaction to finding out he was replaced in TUF 3. Geez.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 23, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
He couldn’t put his all into fighting Rich Franklin because Rich Franklin is way, way better than he is and is a horrendous style matchup for him. Tito Ortiz is essentially an older, broken down version of Matt Hamill with way less power. It’s a pretty good matchup for Matt – it’s a lot like the Resse Andy fight, although I think Tito is durable enough to stick it out until the final bell.
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Great fucking card (if all of this is true)
Here’s to hoping they put Lawlor/Cote and Stout/Kelly on Spike prelims, would suck if we were to miss those fights. Should be really cool scraps both of ’em.
Poor brits by the way.. when comparing this epic card to 120, oh my.
Kelly/Stout would be awesome
Taylor/Stout looks like a war.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Add another fight to this card....
Todd Duffee vs Jon Madsen
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
GET THE FUCK OUT!
might want to look further up the thread buddy.
"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"
Aren't they the same guy?
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
He's ChaelSownnen
like his name his quips will always be a little off.
"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"
My friend just noticed something
This card is almost a veterans vs up and comers. Sweet.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
There should be a poll added to this.
Tito’s next excuse will be:
1) Broken ribs.
2) Lawnmower accident
3) Necrotizing fasciitis
4) Piranha attack
5) The rapture
6) I love this kid like my own son. Emotions got the better of me.
7) Disc c78a slipped again.
8) I like turtles.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Jul 22, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
10) ate a steve carell movie right before the fight
by Body Triangle on Jul 23, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
- made me laugh, could actually see him saying this just like the little kid.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on Jul 23, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
^
#8
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)
by WeaponElDeem on Jul 23, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Goddamn stacked card.
If I wake up tomorrow and see that the world has ended, then that means God has finally granted my prayers.
GO Armageddon!!!
Stoked
AWESOME card, i hope everybody stays healthy.Well everybody but TiT-o.somethings always wrong with that dude,besides being a fruit.Matt will retire his ass for good.Ktfo or gnp til stoppage.Forrest and Shad has good hand speed,but neither can punch as hard as Matt.Jardine is so unorthodox he is hard to fight,harder to finish.You have to ko him,tough dude,plus Matt was sick and gassed after 1.Matt is a better wrestler and hits harder,good luck tito.I’m interested in seeing Shaub- Gonzaga,to see where brendon actually stands. I think if he can keep it standing,he’ll have a decent shot.Hopefully he’s been working on t-down defense and jj. I hope Jake gets spanked. I want to see Sanchez back at a more suitable weight,that too will be a war,and Lawlor is always fun also.Top to bottom great fights. Bye-bye ppv records.Well done Dana Joe and Lorenzo…. Rogan wont have to do any acid to get hyped for this one. They ought to get lil evil Pulver to help commetate, he can sit there and go “oh dang-oh dang- ohh dang” haha I love it!!!!!!!
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