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Zuffa Stealth Marketing UFC 117 as U.S.A. vs Brazil - Smart Move Targeting the Brazilian Market

This BE Fanpost by malito3og3 was the first time I'd even registered that every fight on the main UFC 117 card features a Brazilian fighter vs an American. 

Like most American fans I just sort of assume American predominance on UFC cards and have very little interest in nationalist rah rah stuff. I tend to root for the foreign fighter if anything just because yahoos chanting "U-S-A! U-S-A!" strikes me as being a poor host to international fighters.

But in Brazil, it's a very different manner. I know there were complaints about UFC 104 and UFC 113 featuring two Brazilians in the title fight. That struck me as kind of crazy at the time, but I talked to a couple of Brazilian fans who explained that they saw that as a way of pitting the Brazilian fighters against each other to the detriment of the cause of Brazililan fighters vis a vis American fighters.

The UFC apparently listened to those complaints because this card didn't just put itself together by accident. And that's a smart play.

Zuffa makes no secret of their very serious commitment to international expansion. They model their business on the WWE and they saw how the European market proved a very profitable safe haven for the McMahons as their U.S. business eroded over the last decade. 

And Brazil is a very very rich target for MMA. Brazil has traditionally been a fairly poor country, but their economy has been growing rapidly over the past decade and with its huge population that means they're very nearly reaching the critical mass of middle class people necessary to afford an expensive hobby like following the UFC. They're also a HUGE country with over 192 million people.

Ironically since Brazil produces more top level MMA athletes than any country but the U.S. and did as much to birth the sport as any country including the U.S. and Japan, MMA has never been a popular spectator sport in Brazil. Despite the occasional big event featuring the Gracies fighting over the decades, vale tudo fights have been more spectacle than sport  marred by ugly feuds and stupid outbreaks of violence

Only in the last decade with the development of lucrative international markets in Japan and the U.S. that Brazilian fighters finally stop their incessant inter-camp feuding and realize they could really grow something by working together. 

The UFC did some serious promotion for UFC 104 in Brazil featuring Lyoto Machida and Shogun Rua and I'm told it was one of the first times that MMA was treated as a serious sport in that country. If UFC 113 got similar treatment I missed it, but perhaps that is because they had already hit upon the Brazil vs the U.S.A. angle for UFC 117 and are saving their chits to push this card.

This card should play very very well in Brazil indeed:

Large_flag_of_brazil_medium American-flag_medium

Anderson Silva (26-4)  vs. Chael Sonnen (24-10-1)
Anderson SilvaChael Sonnen
Ricardo Almeida (12-3) vs Matt Hughes (44-7)
Ricardo AlmeidaMatt Hughes
Thiago Alves (16-6) vs. Jon Fitch (22-3)
Thiago AlvesJon Fitch
Junior dos Santos (11-1) vs. Roy Nelson (15-4) 
Junior Dos SantosRoy Nelson
Rafael dos Anjos (14-4) vs. Clay Guida (26-11)
Rafael Dos AnjosClay Guida
Thiago Silva (14-2) vs. Tim Boetsch (11-3)
Thiago SilvaTim Boetsch

One of the beauties about marketing this card as a battle of nations is that every fight should be competitive and most could easily go either way -- even better, the prohibitive favorites are both Brazilian (A. Silva and T. Silva), thereby bettering the chances that the Brazilian market will have something to cheer about at the end of the night.

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I love this idea

And it’s nice to see a poster with a different look for once.

by Myke25 on Jul 21, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like that was posted a ways back and we haven’t heard anything. Hm..

"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre

by Blackout612 on Jul 21, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if

I’m sure that would just mean Thiago Silva gets bumped up to the main card.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 21, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Thiago Tavares could step in if RdA can’t make it. He is sans opponent now as well

by Steven Abbott on Jul 21, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIP America

It’s up to Fitch I guess.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 21, 2010 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

GUida

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 21, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nelson!

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by Thats It For you! on Jul 21, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nelson has the best chance to win, I think.

Fitch has the best chance to be dull.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 22, 2010 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go Brazil

Also— why do they make the Americans look whiter in the poster?

"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre

by Blackout612 on Jul 21, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

You pose an interesting question. I say...

Look at it this way. At least it isn't Rowdy Roddy Piper having success in the HW division.

by jmooby on Jul 21, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

also noticed that. weird

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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 21, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They aren't "whiter", they are just colorless.

I don’t think its a race thing as much as it is a “bad guys” treatment. It’s certainly “us v them” but it’s not race as much as it is nation.

The hero’s crew is always the rag-tag rainbow of assembled individuals, and the enemy is always the indistinct seething mass of uniforms. Compare the Rebellion to the Empire. Compare the Fellowship to Mordor. Actually, see any sci-fi or fantasy movie ever made for examples.

by judonerd on Jul 21, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm much?

Though, if you want to be specific— they’re not colorless, they’re desaturated.

"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre

by Blackout612 on Jul 22, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see the difference. Anyway, There’s a tint, so technically we are both wrong.

by judonerd on Jul 22, 2010 1:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

UFC 117 and USA vs Brazil being on different diagonals bothers the crap outta me.

But overall I like this poster more than the usual crud.

by handlas on Jul 21, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

The Americans

are gonna get their ass handed to them on this card.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jul 21, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

So this makes Steven Seagal a traitor?

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by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

well played

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by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps Zuffa is trying to save us from a legion of Hitler clones?

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by Anthony Pace on Jul 21, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh man that movie is great. That fucking kid that plays the baby Hitlers is creepy as shit

by Steven Abbott on Jul 21, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brazilians are really goofy about their nationalism and sports. I spent my first world cup here in Brazil and was excited to see all the shopping malls go all out putting up huge screens in the food courts, all the bars promising to open early for games, everyone really amped up about the cup in general. Then Brazil lost and within 24 hours, the whole thing was over. All the screens came down and nobody cared at all about the last 2 rounds.

The UFC might raise its popularity here a great deal, but any fight not featuring a brazilian fighter will never get any attention. It’d be hard to even keep an audience tuned in through prelims unless every fight features a brazilian fighter (preferably winning a lopsided match).

Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.

by Stanlee on Jul 21, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

shit

I watched the whole WC, most people I know did as well, but half the population aren’t going to watch the whole thing (women don’t really care for soccer unless it’s Brasil in the WC)…

having saind that, we are indeed a bunch of nationalists…

BRASIL PORRA! :p

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am Filipino but my MMA nationalism belongs to Brazil. (except when Fedor is around).

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

and then he had to lose to a Brazilian (even I was stunned as were most people though).

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

words cant describe what i felt on that day.

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i asked one waiter at a bar here in Joao Pessoa (in my terrible portuguese) if they’d be open for the US games and he insisted they would be open for every game of the world cup. Sucked when I showed up at 10am and they were closed because every game of the cup for him meant every Brazil game.

Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.

by Stanlee on Jul 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

business only makes exceptions for the Brazilian game, but the citizens who love soccer will still watch most games. We don’t have to work when Brazil plays, but we’ll work when other nations are playing, but we’re still watching it online :p

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lula is the man!

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Dunga?

jk

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunga is a donkey :p

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is being pretty charitable IMO...

What is your feel for the next coach? I have heard maybe Scolari, maybe Ramalho or even Braga…with you guys hosting in ’14, they damn sure better get the right guy…

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scolari doesn't want it

I wanted Leão but he’s a hot had.

and this is how it goes down, we’ll get a coach this year, next year he’ll be fired, then we’ll get another one, then he’ll be fired by 2012, then we’ll get one more who’ll also be fired in 2012, then we’ll probably get the guy who is going to be the real coach for 2014. the process here is a mess like that most of the times, Dunga somehow survived this process last time, don’t know how he pulled it off since he’s such an ass hehe

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hot *head

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He must either

Have compromising pics, or know where the bodies are buried (so to speak).

Who has final say on who gets hired?

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teixeira

who’s the president of CBF, but he’s usually under a lot of pressure from the fans and media, so it’s really us :p

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

and regarding Scolari, he just signed a contract to run a team, so CBF would have to pay a huge fee to get him out of the contract.

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would imagine with you guys hosting it, who ever it is will be under even more pressure if that is possible.

The bad news is, given that, they will probably have to hire the safest “name” coach they can, just to cover their collective arses, instead of taking the risk of hiring a young, up and coming coach…

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

no doubt

I even hear the media wanting a foreigner to coach the team, which is crazy since Brazilians aren’t going to be happy with that.

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess winning cures everything, but

Damn that would be a tough sell to the people…

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I doubt it would happen, but you never know, the media can be pretty persuasive here.

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I have heard, he is more like the shit stuck in the donkey’s hooves…

;P

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow really?

I like all MMA regardless, that seems wacky to me, but I trust you know more about Brazil than I do. (It’s that country in “City of God” right?) ;)

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by RolloTomasi on Jul 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t Ricardo Almeida born in New York? Guess he’s this card’s Yves Edwards.

by MattParker117 on Jul 21, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

This is what it should have been the entire time.

by BVandDietPepsi on Jul 21, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Thiago Silva (14-2) vs. Tim Boetsch (11-3)

will steal the show.

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by RolloTomasi on Jul 21, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm thinking Guida/Dos Anjos

Battle of who most looks like an exhibit in a museum

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by Anthony Pace on Jul 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

are they both missing

chromosomes?

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by RolloTomasi on Jul 21, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah.

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

fatal fourway match?

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by Anthony Pace on Jul 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you win bro.

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get why Spike bothered putting prelims for 119

When 117 badly needed two fights on free TV. The prelims could make a UFN easily.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like them both.

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Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jul 21, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always figured they used the prelims to sell a ppv. This one doesn’t really need that kind of lead in for fans to buy it. It would be hard to get casual fans to buy this card regardless, but the regular fans are getting this card or going to bars. This card is amazing, has big names (old and new) to draw people in, and has high title implications; not to mention a potential great title fight. As nice as it would be to have the prelims of each show on Spike, that’s not what the contract is used for (I think it’s only 10 total this year or something). It’s a marketing ploy, not a gift to loyal fans

by Steven Abbott on Jul 21, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the idea and this card

but I’m not sure why the UFC would try to appease us Brazilians, MMA is not big here, let me repeat that, MMA is not big here, ask Chris Wilson. It’s not PPV either, people who watches already subscribe to the channel that shows the UFC, so it’s not like the general public is going to raise the buys because this card is Brazil vs the US…

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

It just puzzles me as to why MMA is not big in Brazil.

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you and I friend, you and I

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding, especially considering the history of MMA and how, right now, Brazilians hold two of the five belts.

by pud333 on Jul 21, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention they arguably built the sport.

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it probably just started out as coincidence, and when they realized it they just started to roll with it

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by Anthony Pace on Jul 21, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking this. I think this turned out more of a coincidence thing rather than a planned Brazil/USA card. I mean with the amount of Brazilian fighters and American fighters in the UFC it’s kind of surprising this hasn’t already happened just by pure coincidence. Also factoring in that the UFC seems to try to put multiple fighters from the same camp on the same card.

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, i guess it's a step in the right direction?

If MMA isn’t big in Brazil right now, it sure won’t ever be without a lot of hard work, right?

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by Goonisis on Jul 21, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need a Brazilian version of TUF

on open TV, we’re basically the same as the US was pre-TUF era, we need a boom like that here, big brother is big here, TUF should do well too.

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking reruns of UFC 1 to 4.

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus the Wanderlei massacre series, that should make your fellas proud.

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

but that would take the sport back, vale tudo has a bad rep here and the early UFCs were basically VT

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been wondering about VT

Is it widely disliked? Isn’t it basically underground now, even if it is in the open? Or is it sanctioned?

I guess early UFCs do have a bit of a VT look to them, between the hair, the headbutts, etc.

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

early UFCs were VTs

and they are gone, far as I know.

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's why they're working it hard

BECAUSE it’s not big. See Americans invented two magical things a hundred years ago called advertising and marketing and they can change the behavior of millions of people.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 21, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what's funny

This card will actually be on SporTV, which is kind of like ESPN, and not on Premier Combat which usually transmits all the UFC cards, so it will reach a lot more people. I still don’t think the regular Brazilian will care… ask DW to make a Brazilian version of TUF, that will help us here a lot…

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brazilian edition

The Ultimate Fighter: Subtitles

Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.

by Rod Mapada on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

but then it would just be for the Brazilians, and we could make the winner fight the winner from the current season of TUF in the US, would be fun.

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is actually a very good idea. Maybe mmalogic will see it and pass it along…

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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I sure hope so!

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I’ve read that from him already. He’s wrote it once before where there’ll be regional TUF type shows in every country to make local talents/stars for the respective countries to support or even simultaneous local UFC shows. Through these, every nation can watch their local fighters move up to the Main PPV show. This international expansion by Zuffa is them cashing in on the long tail of everything MMA.

by Johann on Jul 22, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone think there will be a riot if Chael Sonnen and Matt Hughes BOTH grind out decision “lay and pray” victories?

by Bandaka on Jul 21, 2010 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm.... you don't say???

August 21st in Houston

USA vs BRAZIL

King Mo vs Feijao
Kennedy vs Jacare
KJ Noons vs Gurgel
Woodley/Tarec vs Galvao
Long vs Draculino

=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 21, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

USA vs. Brazil (international friendly, soccer)

Date: August 10th

Coincidence?

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 21, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

we'll kill you guys :p

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

If Bradley is still coach then yeah

But it’s just a friendly. So instead of conceding in the first 10 minutes we’ll give up a goal in the 12th minute.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 21, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

but we still don’t have a coach though, but we’ll still kill you guys :p

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by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s an interesting coincidence. At least the US fans wont have to wait long to get revenge. I’m seriously thinking a Brasilian sweep is in the cards at 117 if alves can stuff some TD’s. Dos anjos skills could make him a good anti-guida…maybe another arm bar or at least some omaplatas.

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by Hardy's in your face on Jul 22, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s so weird to me that Brazil, which is second only to the U.S. in terms of producing top fighters (if indeed they are second) is not a major market for the sport.

How does that even work? They must just have this enormously productive little combat sports subculture. Just imagine if MMA did blow up there.

by JRN on Jul 21, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

It always seemed like Brazil is the perfect place for MMA. DOnt you have to be a tough guy to live in Brazil?

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by vivero on Jul 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once I said hello to a Brazillian. I now have an enemy for life.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Jul 21, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

USA and Wrestling Versus Brazil and JiuJitsu or Striking

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.

by theworldsoldestsport on Jul 21, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

More like

BJJ vs. Wrestling.

Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.

by Rod Mapada on Jul 21, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Anybody know the line of JDS vs. Big Country?

I have a feeling about Big Country, but I need to know the number.

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by Snatchl on Jul 21, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

2.5 to 1 underdog

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by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Jul 21, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post

And cool that you gave props to malito3og3, who had this spotted from jump.

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by thetakeover on Jul 21, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Phew

At first I thought the UFC made this poster and I was about to submit it to Photoshop Disasters.

by nastyem on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know why, but I’m feeling the USA sweep – my brain says no, but my gut says yes.

Now wouldn’t that be crazy?

But if you are stupid, you will be beaten with a stick - Proverbs 10:13

by Ominous on Jul 21, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I see the USA side taking 4 of the 5, to me JDS is the only big favorite on the brazil side but who knows.

"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
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by Nightwhistler on Jul 21, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Srsly?

No love for the pink-wearing spider?

Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.

by Rod Mapada on Jul 21, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

UFC 117, top to bottom:

Brazil
USA
USA
Brazil
USA
Brazil

3-3 Draw, just like every boring assed soccer game at the world cup.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity

by Ubernoober on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

you weren't watching the right ones then

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like hockey, a sport where fistfights break out regularly during play. The penalty for fighting is 5 minutes in the penalty box. the pace is fast and hard hitting with extremely rapid swings in momentum.

The lack of sportsmanship soccer make me want to vomit. A bunch of pretty boys running up and down a field for an hour and a half, faking injuries, maintaining their hair and playing keep away to protect a 1-0 lead does not inspire me.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity

by Ubernoober on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's gotta be something cool to it

why the hell do all of those hooligans love it so much?

"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"

by Fake Emcee on Jul 21, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, so you want to see them fighting eh?

soccer is not meant to be a violent game (although it can be sometimes by arrogant players/fans), don’t know why you feel the need to bash a sport you don’t follow nor know nothing about…

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I hate lots of other sports for arbitrary reasons.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity

by Ubernoober on Jul 21, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

I’m just messing with ya, I love futebol so I get defensive a lot of times, stupid me needs some sleep, I’m out :p

Felipe Melo não nasceu, ele foi expulso do útero

by Orcus on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You need to watch some South American league soccer

I’ve seen some Kung-Fu kicks happen.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 22, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will admit Europeans tend to embellish more

But South and Central Americans go freaking mental.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 22, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like hockey too, but I'm not too big on fights

But I love the fast pace, hard checks, and of course Roberto Luongo.

The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.

by SSreporters on Jul 22, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hockeys golden age ended in the 90s.

This version of hockey sucks compared to the hockey from 80-90.

by Riney on Jul 22, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its up to Nelson and Fitch for the US.

I really hope Sonnen wins, but I don’ think he will, and Dos Anjos.

by J_Maddux on Jul 21, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm impressed

By the knowledge and respect shown by both the writer and the commenters in this post. Any other group would have turned this into a racist mess. I’m very proud of the MMA community.

by itsmiguel on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

it is technically an issue of nationality.

"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"

by Fake Emcee on Jul 22, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

another shrewd business move by zuffa

bravo well played
will be cheering hard for t. silva and alves

You must defeat me to stand a chance.

by Gouken on Jul 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm just wondering how you didn't notice it

when it was brought up in nearly every thread involving 117 as a whole (and not focused on Sonnen’s mouth) :P

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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 21, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Fitch's head

is bigger than Roy’s belly? Say it isn’t so! =)

Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.

by Rod Mapada on Jul 22, 2010 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding

it’s enormous!!! what’s up with that

"she told me she was on the pill." me

by SNATCHFACE on Jul 22, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not an official UFC poster

It was probably taken down because it isn’t an official UFC made poster, it was made by a fan and also they didn’t give the guy who did make it any credit.

by Jargon on Jul 22, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrassling vs. Jits

 Even Nelson will have to get it to the ground.

by Huggy Bear on Jul 22, 2010 4:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Just like with soccer...

6-0 for Brazil

It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)

by Sanderman on Jul 22, 2010 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the cave man and Fitch disagree.

I get more rec's then a Toyota!

by DayGeaux on Jul 22, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another reason the Brazilian market is so lucrative...

is time zones, something that is always going to be an issue with European, Asian or Australian venues. Nobody wants to pay $45 for a tape delayed PPV nor does anybody want the UFC to hold an event at 10 in the morning local time. Brazil on the other hand is pretty much on the same general longitude at the US making it a very viable market.

Bob Arum thinks I'm a white Nazi skinhead even though I'm a brown grad student (with hair)

by ludakrish on Jul 22, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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