Report: Lyoto Machida to Face Quinton "Rampage" Jackson in November
by Kid Nate on Jul 21, 2010 1:04 AM EDT
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MMA Weekly reports:
Former light heavyweight champions Lyoto Machida and Quinton "Rampage" Jackson are expected to meet at an as of yet unannounced event in the fall, possibly in November.
The fight was confirmed to MMAWeekly.com as being in the works by sources close to the bout, and Jackson himself posted on his Twitter account that he was issued a bout agreement for a fight and was about to sign it late Tuesday evening.
Here's Rampage's tweet:
almost ready 2 sign the bout agreement! i would tell yall who im gonna get down with, but i cant spell his name...hahaha
This is great news. The other day, I bitched and moaned about this fight not being signed for UFC 119. I'm enjoying eating a big helping of crow right now. Machida vs Rampage should be an epic bout.
UPDATE: MMA Junkie reports that the bout will likely headline a November 20th event (UFC 122), which is rumored to be taking place in Germany.
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Alternate spelling:
T-W-O L-O-S-S-E-S I-N A R-O-W
for Rampage
by Django Z on Jul 21, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
yeah, I don’t know how but yeah, two losses in a row.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Jul 21, 2010 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Dear Rampage, It goes more like this T-H-E D-R-A-G-O-N
" The pain that you carry is the love that you never showed "
LOL. This should be awesome. I take back everything I said about Rampage for ducking this fight. He’s gonna get schooled though.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 21, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
my same thoughts… i like rampage but he really does piss me off sometimes
Machida wins this, I know it.
Yeah, there really do seem to be two personalities, Quinton and Rampage. I don’t know which is which, but I like one, and want Machida to beat the piss (!) out of the other one:)
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 21, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know how to feel about this.
On one hand, its Rampage Jackson. On the other, its Lyoto Machida.
This is like if the Ninja Turtles fought the Thundercats. Either way, I come out the loser.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 21, 2010 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
thundercats kill ninja turtles
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
This fuckin’ guy.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Splinter is a master at gameplanning.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 21, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
the snarfs by themselves could take the ninja turtles
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Splinter=Greg Jackson?
Hard core MMA fan since UFC 99
by ChiCubs23 on Jul 21, 2010 1:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I totally agree. Both these guys are awesome. Either fortunately or unfortunately, I think Machida will take this unless Rampage shows up disciplined and in tremendous shape, which I think is rather unlikely. I hope this is an amazing fight.
by BurtBacharach on Jul 21, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Dear God....
’Page start training now brother….
For Heaven’s sake!!!!
by devious1 on Jul 21, 2010 1:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wait…. what if the name Jackson can’t spell is Krzysztof Sosynski? I’d consider the American educational system well acquitted then.
Ribbit.
I did
a fanpost on that a while ago. I also thought it was Sos.
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
maybe Murilo Bustamante?
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 21, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Good.
I’m glad Rampage isn’t getting special treatment. Machida is still a dangerous fight for anybody who isn’t Shogun.
I want to see Machida win again in dominating fashion and I think this will start the decline of Rampage Jackson.
by juggs mcgillicutty on Jul 21, 2010 1:37 AM EDT reply actions
I’m glad Rampage isn’t getting special treatment. Machida is still a dangerous fight for anybody who isn’t Shogun.
I want to see Machida win again in dominating fashion and I think this willstartcontinue the decline of Rampage Jackson.
Easy enough fix…
Guess Dana is still pissed at Rampage for the way the fight with Rashad got drug out…
If he tries to make him fight Jones after he loses to Machida then we’ll know he is still not forgiven…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
There's a reason Rampage didn't want this fight
Machida is a horrible matchup for him. Rampage’s takedowns have looked worse and worse and if he tries to get in there looking for the big right he’s gonna get KTFO.
Where are these reports that Rampage didn't want the fight?
Is this the one Meltzer report that Rampage was offered this fight and turned it down? But now it’s back on? Meltzer is NOTORIOUS for that type of flipflop reporting. Get used to it MMA fans.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
NAH
Rampage is gonna KO machida like shogun did to him
Anderson is going to make Chael his Play boy (No Homo)
my exact reaction.
"Vikings fucked Vikings for generation after generation and their warrior bloodlines were passed on, and this motherfucker living in the woods in Minnesota got the best of the best."
Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I see this going
Karate choppin leg kicks until ’page’s lead leg falls completely off.
by hardlyworking on Jul 21, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage needs to step his game up tenfold
He is on the verge of irrelevancy and needs a big win over a top competitor.
Lyoto is no joke, Jackson better bring his A game.
No pun intended.
People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach conclusions. Conclusions are not always pleasant.
- Helen Keller
Losing to Rashad Evans and Lyoto Machida makes one irrelevant?
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
In the eyes of shitty MMA fans, yes
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea I'd really like to know ...
… how the loser of this fight is now irrrelevant . Lets say Rampage loses . He just lost to Rashad ( in a hug fest ) and Lyoto , both top level fighters . Lets say Lyoto loses . He just lost to two of the best 205ers in the business in Shogun and Rampage .
Feel free to explain .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 21, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Rampage has the proverbial “puncher’s chance” and that is about it…
Rampage is entirely too one-dimensional and either unwilling or unable to evolve his game. He won’t be irrelevent, but he is among the ranks of LHWs who, while very good in their own right (Franklin, Couture, Griffin for example) are a step down from the true elite of the division.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re only as good as your last fight in MMA. Regardless of how the hardcore fans feel The Blackula is 100% right. Rampage is riding a wave of newfound attention post A-Team, and already lost his first fight. If the new Rampage fans see two losses in a row he will absolutely lose some drawing power, especially if this becomes a “Machida clinic” where Rampage tries hitting him to no avail and loses a boring decision.
by BurtBacharach on Jul 21, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If you’re drawing in new fans because of your blockbuster movie, you are nowhere near the verge of irrelevancy. Not only that, Rampage already has a huge fan base. There’s maybe two or three fighters in the world more well-known.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 21, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
EXACTLY!!!
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s like you took the comment out of my mind and just added it as a final paragraph.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 21, 2010 1:45 AM EDT reply actions
I think that...
Rampage has the potential to beat Lyoto.
However, I question his training camp Wolf’s Lair’s ability to come up with a game plan that will have ’Page come out on top.
Unless he trains elsewhere, this might be a short night for Quinton.
by devious1 on Jul 21, 2010 1:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. That place is terrible for him. I couldn’t believe it when I found out he was training for Rashad there…your camp for a WRESTLER is in ENGLAND?
by BurtBacharach on Jul 21, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Rampage doesn't like to train...
He’s always been at camps where he’s a star and nobody will push him. Everyone at Wolfslair treats him like he’s the star, so he can train as little as he wants and be the big fish in the small pond.
It’s happened to a lot of guys, but Rampage seems to be the only fighter who actively is seeking it out rather than trying to fix it.
Somehow
this image seems SO apt…
It’s a shame that you kept yourself closed off from the world! You’ve never had to fight ith someone stronger than you! As for me, I’ve survived by fighting on real battlefields with men stronger than myself!
its disapointing though
when he rips on himself we dont get the chance to rip on him, good move nate
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
And this is why all the PISSING and MOANING about the bullshit of duckin fights is retarded
So can we stop with the “blah blah is ducking blah blah” BS.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 1:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
True, except
This one wasn’t suspected ducking, this was Rampage himself saying he didn’t want to fight Machida…not that I really blame him…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you have a Rampage quote?
Or are you referring to that report by Meltzer (whi is OFTEN wrong) that Rampage declined the fight?
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Not handy, no. But it should be noted that he said he didn’t want it because it was “too boring”
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I found a quote...from 18 months ago, nothing about a proposed fight
“Lyoto is a weird fighter,” Jackson said. “He’s kind of boring. I think that style works for him, the way he makes people run after him. I mean, he’s good, he’s undefeated, but he’s boring. If I was the promoter of a show I wouldn’t have guys like that fighting on my show.”
And every Google search on Rampage and Machida has no quotes from Rampage or anything about a fight being offered (besides the oft-wrong Meltzer).
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
May well have been from Meltzer, but whatever the original source it has made it onto BE in at least a couple of pieces over the last month or so.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And has subsequently been proven to be incorrect
by the same fight being signed a week later.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 22, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice
I’m really interested to find out if the Shogun fights have changed Lyoto’s approach at all. Rampage isn’t as quick as Shogun and isn’t anywhere near as proficient with his leg kicks so I don’t think too much will change but you never know.
If Derek Jeter clubbed a baby seal on earth day while wearing a mink coat and crocodile skin boots while burning tires on an iceberg, the reaction would be "Its OK Derek, you’re a Yankee." -First mammal to wear pants
But Quinton hits a LOT harder.
How much would I love to see Lyoto making the Rashad-face?
SO. MUCH.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
would this even qualify as a debate? where’s the proof that Rampage hits a lot harder than Shogun? i just don’t see it.
"she told me she was on the pill." me
Determining punching power without some sort of measuring tool is always gonna be a silly debate. There is no proof one way or another.
Rampage has the hardest hit ever recorded for a punch and slam
Safe to assume he hits harder than Shogun as well as anyone else in recorded history. Previously Mike Tyson held the record at about 1750 lbs of force.
http://www.mmamania.com/2007/10/07/sports-science-rampage-jackson-hits-hard-video/
“The impact is staggering.” “He hits hard enough to deliver 1800 lbs of force,kind of like having a teenage hippo sit on your head.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpWTHDox4Y
“On Rampages body slam the dummy experienced 400 g’s on impact.”
by Johnnynumber5 on Jul 21, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Harder than Drago?
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Jul 22, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I seriously doubt
That Rampage hits any harder than Shogun.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Another day, another feeling that the internet is upside down...
Shogun has power in his hands, but the majority of his finishes are TKO’s. Compare the punch he knocked Chuck down with to the punch Rampage finished Chuck with. Rampage’s punch was almost a grazing shot. Shogun’s was on the button. Keeping in mind that until Rampage came along Chuck’s chin was considered granite-status.
Rampage has legitimate one punch knock out power in both hands. Shogun’s most notable KO was against Overeem when he had him on the ground already.
I think a lot of people overestimate/misunderstand what makes Shogun so deadly. His cardio is IMO his greatest asset. The guys parents are marathon runners. The pace he sets, coupled with the skillset he has, his killer instinct and his great athleticism basically means can fight with Berserker rage for an entire round. Very few guys can keep up with an in shape Shogun.
Shogun has power in his hands, but the majority of his finishes are TKO’s.
If you are basing it on TKO vs KO numbers…
According to Wiki because my memory sucks….
Rampage has 4 KO’s in his career including one by Slam so that means three by punches.
Shogun has 5 KO’s in his career including one head kick KO, so that means 4 by punches.
Didn't Forrest Griffen state that Rampage hits harder than anyone else he's faced?
In the rampage post fight interview? (which would include Shogun)
Yes he did
he said every shot he hit him with including the blocked ones hurt. I don’t think its too ridiculous to say Rampage has more power at least with his hands, you can just see the kind of power that he packs in all of his shots.
"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"
Easy enough to solve: let them both punch you.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
If you like it, you should put a rec on it.
That said, Rampage loses.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions
aww peas
I don’t like this fight, i’m a huge fan of both of these guys and would hate for one of them to go on a 2 fight losing streak
Rampage better be super, super aggressive. Otherwise, it’s a steady diet of leg kicks and lefts.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 21, 2010 1:53 AM EDT reply actions
Thiago Silva tried that
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
No he didn't.
Silva had very little offense in that fight.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
I thought he got caught coming in? I should watch the fight again it’s been a while.
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
he got smashed after his take down got stopped
loyoto threw him on the ground and tucked him in for the night
Thiago Silva doesn’t have the best stand-up defense. He can be hit.
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
Machida saw that and took advantage
Plus he’d already gotten the trip takedown (probably the one his UFC 2010 one was based on) about a minute in, not including the unfortunate low blow.
Evans tried to be super aggressive with Machida.
Where did that get him?
by devious1 on Jul 21, 2010 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No.
Evans tried to stick and move and counter punch. He was not super aggressive.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
until he got pissed off at Lyoto’s discipline and was like “fuck it”
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 21, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not just aggression. Rampage has to disrupt Machida’s footwork and manuevering. I think he has the ability to, but I’m not sure about the speed and the mindset.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 21, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, Quinton’s stance and MO don’t allow him to throw kicks, which was another big part of Shogun’s gameplan. He’ll have to use a lot of bodywork to make up for it, and Machida will be throwing at his head during that.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
There is little reason for Machida to even get in Rampage’s range when he can kick from outside with zero danger of being countered…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryu Vs. Birdie
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
by Rod Mapada on Jul 21, 2010 2:00 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Wow
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
ha
"Players are gods, the stands are the pews, football is the new religion."
by DamnSevern on Jul 21, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
Fear the hadouken
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
by Rod Mapada on Jul 21, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
subject line
If Derek Jeter clubbed a baby seal on earth day while wearing a mink coat and crocodile skin boots while burning tires on an iceberg, the reaction would be "Its OK Derek, you’re a Yankee." -First mammal to wear pants
by Tonley on Jul 21, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
While this fight will be all kinds of awesome, it kind of sucks that one of these fighters has to have back to back losses now. I’d rather see them both get back to winning ways but oh well
I agree
I think Rampage should have been given a fight he has a better chance of winning first.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
So Lyoto wins does that mean Rampage is left with a money fight vs Tito?
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
Tito said he wouldn’t fight Rampage.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
are they still in a bromance? I thought Rampage left TIto for Bisping?
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Rampage was reserved about going to the UFC because Tito was there, so I assume nothing has changed. Then again, the last time Tito said he didn’t wanna fight a friend he got knocked out twice by that friend so, shrug.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
If Rampage is to lose and a big money fight is presented to Tito and Jackson I could definately see Tito running his mouth a little bit.
by seanerk88 on Jul 21, 2010 2:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d love love loooove to see Rampage at some point fight Tito. What’s Tito’s reasoning?
by seanerk88 on Jul 21, 2010 2:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they were primary training partners for years until Dana had Rampage whisked away to England after the monster truck incident
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 21, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
The minute I saw this tweet I got excited and thought Lyoto, someone brought to my mind K Sos(buzzkill). Please let it be Lyoto, as a Rampage fan I just wish he’d take MMA more serious and perform to his full capabilities.
by seanerk88 on Jul 21, 2010 2:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Come on now people.
Two top 5 fighters in the sport’s premier division are fighting. One of them has to lose. The loser will have either lost two straight to Shogun and Rampage, or to Rashad and Machida. Have some perspective.
I believe that while this is Machida’s fight to win, it is not out of the realm of possibility that Jackson chases and rocks him. Machida is not going to be able to finish Jackson, and he’s not going to clinch or wrestle, so he will have to outpoint him on the feet for 15 minutes. Entirely possible, yes, but it won’t be easy.
It’s also hard for me to shake the fact that Machida looked visibly rattled, slower, and nervous in the first round of the Shogun fight. It’s unclear what the effect of the knockout will be.
What makes you think that Lyoto can’t finish Rampage? Just curious because Rampage has been finished a few times
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Look at the people who have finished Rampage and when they did it. Look what it took. Now look at Lyoto Machida’s finishing rate over his career. It is very, very unlikely.
The punch Rashad hit Rampage with would have ended most fighters. It connected with full force. The punch’s force rocked rampage back physically, but it did not buckle him in a way where he lost his equilibrium. He was defending a takedown successfully 20 seconds later.
He is very, very difficult to put away.
by Michael Rome on Jul 21, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I might be biased in my opinion that Lyoto has the style to finish Rampage, but you’re right he’s been finished by the best.
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
How in any way does Lyoto have the style to finish Rampage, Lyoto doesn’t fight like Wandy or Shogun unless you’re talking about a submission or something.
"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"
Machida does drop some sweet clinch knees...
I seem to recall Page having problems with those on occasion.
He usually goes to the body with his knees (unless I’m mistaken)
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
Knees in the clinch, kicks, submissions…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh well yep, I’m convinced now that Lyoto fights exactly like Wandy. Rampage is a hard guy to finish in general even with submissions. Lyoto isn’t gonna go in there and drop the constant bombs it would take to put him out, he’s gonna outstrike him from a distance more than likely. I’m sure at the end of the day Rampage’s legs will be nice and bruised but Lyoto not gonna be in his face with relentless attacks like Wandy or Shogun where.
"The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table"
I suspect it will be either a UD or TKO (not defending intelligently, not necessarily almost out cold).
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage
if nothing else has an iron fucking chin. He only gets put away if he quits or gets hit with 47 consecutive knees.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
you forgot getting stomped or soccer kicked.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 21, 2010 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Not sure if he stomped him, but I definitely recall him soccer kicking the fuck out of Rampage.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 21, 2010 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that falls under quitting.
He just gave up in that fight. He didn’t want to be there.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
I’ll accept that. In his defense, I wouldn’t wanna be there either.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 21, 2010 4:45 AM EDT up reply actions
He didn't give up
He couldn’t breathe. his ribs were broken with one of the first standing round kicks.
I consider that stopped.
Didn’t he also fast for like three days before that fight? Or was that Wandy?
by BurtBacharach on Jul 21, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, no. That's bullshit.
Getting your ribs brutally broke by one of Shogun’s kicks does not equal quitting. I mean, I guess you could argue he did because he stuck his head through the ropes, but his ribs were broke before that final onslaught from Shogun. He could’ve just straight up tapped out, but he at least tried before Rua poured it on.
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
by slapjaw ackrite on Jul 21, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a helluva fight, and yeah people are nutty for thinking the loser of this is done.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Rampage has a chance with his timing and siuch to catch Machida on his way in, but it’s gonna be interesting because Rampage can in no way replicate the Shogun gameplan. Also depends on how Machida bounces back after getting knocked out and his dad saying he should retire.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
One Shot
Rampage Has To Land One Shot Against Machida. Will It Happen? Maybe. He Will Get Outclassed In All Phases Of The Game Though. I Still Think Deep Down He Does Not Truly Want This Fight. He Only Wants To Fight People Who Will Stand In The Pocket And Bang As If It Is The Early Pride days. If Machida Is Quicker Than Rashad Was And Rashad Was Quicker Than Rampage How Is He Going To Catch Him?
Nope
all the capitals make me feel funny
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
What is this, the longest book title ever? How much extra effort did that take?
by judonerd on Jul 21, 2010 8:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If Only I Was.
Then I Wouldn’t Be On Here.
Nope
by NaciremaDream on Jul 21, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I work with Cap1 daily and yes you’d still be on here
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
November ?
Wait, UFC 121 in October is already stacked. UFC 122 which is expected to be in Germany will be in november. And the UFC 123 GSP vs Kos in december.
I can’t believe they ll make this fight happen in Germany.
You easily promote him? This is the UFC here, either guy will be absolutely fine. He’s fighting 2 top 5 guys in a row, you get him a rebound fight against an easier guy (whoever loses) and then back into the fire.
The lesson of PPV buys over and over is that losses have little to no effect on marketability unless someone goes on a sustained, 4 or 5 fight slide.
by Michael Rome on Jul 21, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s the epitome of proof that it’s true. Can draw over 500k buys on a 2 week rebound from a huge show with no title match, after losing 4 out of 5 and being clearly irrelevent, on a show with no co-main event. It’s only internet fans that obsess over people being “done” when they lose a couple times.
by Michael Rome on Jul 21, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
100%
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 21, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Mmhmm.
Rampage also has the added benefit of having a big mouth.
"You think you're too cool for school but I got a newsflash for you, Walter Cronkite. You aren't. "
by B.H. Farnsworth on Jul 21, 2010 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Like a breath of fresh air
Now will you please yell at the guy that keeps calling Rampage a gatekeeper in the making?
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
No need
If you will recall, I have made mention numerous times of Rampage’s PPV drawing power. He just doesn’t have the game to compete with or beat the top LHWs.
He is in a group a step below (Franklin, Griffin, Couture, etc) the very best and has no realistic chance at a legitimate title shot again. Still a very good and dangerous fighter for the rest of the division.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
My only concern about Rampage losing his drawing power is that he's got so many bandwagon fans now due to all the mainstream media attention.
I don’t mean that in a negative or degrading way, just the truth. A lot of those new fans tuned in to see an extremely boring main event with Rashad, especially if that was the first card they ever watched. If they tune in again and this fight becomes Machida unable to finish Rampage and Rampage unable to hit Machida, with Rampage losing an uneventful decision, will they tune in again for a third one?
I agree with everything you’ve said but I’m not sure Rampage is in the same situation as Chuck et al.
by BurtBacharach on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Rampage has a pretty devout group of followers
That were there long before the A-Team movie.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea I've been following him ...
… since his early PRIDE days and will continue no matter what .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The same thing
they did with Wanderlei Silva.
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
I don’t think Rampage can cut twenty more pounds.
"I am going to burn your fucking house down, but you will blow me first"
by Barack Lesnar on Jul 21, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant
the promotion and the way they found opponents for Wandy after he had lost fights. I’m not suggesting Rampage to go down to middleweight.
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
Big fight
I’d like to see it free on Spike as part of Dana’s “make-up for 112” promise.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
I was hoping for this as well. Especially with rampages training at wolfslair and fan base in england?
by MikeD32 on Jul 21, 2010 2:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this is the headliner that 120 has been waiting for.
"Vikings fucked Vikings for generation after generation and their warrior bloodlines were passed on, and this motherfucker living in the woods in Minnesota got the best of the best."
Junkie is reporting that the fight will take place at an event to be named and will take place on November 20th.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
This fight along with Vitor vs anderson/chael? thatll be a fun card
by MikeD32 on Jul 21, 2010 2:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it will be co-main event with either the next Anderson fight or the next LW title fight. Perhaps the latter.
by Michael Rome on Jul 21, 2010 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
interesting that you have Anderson beating Chael as a forgone conclusion, but leave the LW title up in the air
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 21, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Would have prefered to see both fighters ...
… get a fight they really wanted , but his fight should be good . Only questions will be how does Lyoto bounce back after his first loss via nasty KO and his pops wanting him to retire and which Rampage will we see ? The Rampage that destroyed Wandy and Chuck or Rampage the movie star whom lacks drive ? My guess is Rampage comes out looking like the Rampage of old and Machida comes out a little gun shy . Also this will be a stand up fight which seems to favor Rampage . Lyoto would be wise to employ the Forrest Griffin tactic …. say on the outside and use leg kicks to out point Rampage and survive the fight .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 21, 2010 3:07 AM EDT reply actions
now rampage is gonna fight when ruushard didnt want 2 again
ruushard let his teamate fight jackson first, now he lets the guy who ko’ed him fight him, ruuushard dont want nething of machida
bobs back!
You cant spell barn?
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
by Geno Mrosko on Jul 21, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think he was onto something maybe.................
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 21, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
This is gonna be so good they burn the bars as well
Overall I think this is a good fair set up for all. While I agree Rashad wants to duck Lyoto, I think he deserves his title shot without having to fight Lyoto again. Also Rashad is coming off a win against a top 5er and Lyoto coming off a bad loss so it also makes sense from that angle. It’s be an awesome fight and I like them both but Lyoto wins it I think.
Do you think they gave him more money to take Machida?
It’s not really up for debate that he effectively “ducked” Machida earlier on. Did Dana come back with more cash, PPV percentage, etc?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
He didn't duck Machida.
Fuck this duck talk.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Calm down.
I’m not bashing the guy. He didn’t want to fight Machida for what we KNOW is a bullshit reason. That’s basically ducking. The fight, at one point, was declined by Rampage. Even if you don’t want to say ‘duck’ the fight didn’t go through on Rampage’s end. So can you answer my question instead of taking issue with semantics?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
I was under the impression that Page fought Wand @ 92 with a broken jaw. Then Dana needed a Main Event for 96 and he stepped up and won a decision over Keith Jardine. Then, in the locker room after that fight Dana asked him if he would fight Rashad for the belt @ 98 which was roughly 2 months away.
This, along with the fact that he felt that Machida wasn’t a big enough draw and that he could make more money doing TUF with Rashad and then having a blow-off fight with Rashad made the situation what it is. Then the A-Team happened.
If I am remembering this correctly, I don’t think anybody is ducking anyone else.
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 21, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions
This is pretty much exactly what happened
Rashad went in the ring at 98 and got in Rampage’s face. Rampage thought the fight would be at UFC 100 but didn’t know Frank Mir pulled out. So he told Dana his jaw was still broken and he needed to heal and 6 weeks wouldn’t be enough.
Machida beats Rampage.
Here’s my speculation from this point on: Dana knew Kimbo was going to do TUF. He knew Kimbo was famous and had a lot of draw in the Black community. Dana saw $$$. Dana saw it as an opportunity for two Black fighters to be coaches on the show and get their name out there for a money fight. This would draw a lot of African Americans to watch a UFC event. Voila. This theory is IMO supported by some comments Rampage made when he “quit” about how he did TUF as a favor for Dana and some other stuff that I can’t remember, but at the time it was obvious that TUF 10 was set up from the get go as the “Black season” with the promise of a title fight after he beat Rashad. Because obviously Rampage didn’t think he would lose. So he gets to get paid, beat up big mouth Rashad, get on TV for 12 weeks on a potentially popular show and fight for the title or he can fight Machida. That’s not ducking.
You don’t see college football fans crying about a team choosing to play a rival rather than someone else. Only in MMA do fans basically call the pros “cowards” by saying they “duck” fights. The connotations are there. Ric Flair was on the button about some MMA fans.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, what does this have to do with my question?
This particular fight was not a fight Rampage wanted at first. That is all I know. I was just wondering if more money was given as an incentive to take it. You act like I’m fucking bashing the guy, when in reality I’m hoping ‘Page beats the shit out of Machida (won’t happen though).
Get over it dude. :/
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Reply fail?
I dont know exactly what you think i have to get over?
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
extraneous question marks FTL
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re just back on the ducking thing I guess. I don’t see a point in re-hashing the fact that he didn’t duck (in your mind) after I said that wasn’t the point of my question – is all.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
How do you know that? Are you friends with Rampage?
Are you a part of the UFC offices?
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 22, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck Yes!
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 21, 2010 6:13 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
lolz rampae can spell nuttin hahahha hes like me cuz i stupid two.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Truculence, Belligerence, & Pugnacity
by Ubernoober on Jul 21, 2010 6:36 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This is the smartest, most coherent thing you have ever typed here ever.
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 21, 2010 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Gold star next to Ubernoober's name
What improvement he’s showing
RIP Phil Harris. I'll miss you man
by II SMASH II on Jul 21, 2010 8:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ruushard is the one ducking
of course he has a good reason he has a title shot on the way, but k-flo didnt give a dam he still fought stevenson to stay sharp and give the fans some more showtime,you would think he would like to redeem his ko to machida at some point,now rampage has to fight him lol
I think they will do a Interim Title match after they get some of these eliminators out of the way.
If Rampage pulls it off, Evans / Page 2 is an option
If Machida wins, the winner of Griffin / Franklin is probable
If Big Nog wins, he will also be in play
I don’ see them throwing Bader in there with a victory, but then again two TUF winners fighting for an interim title is a WIN for the UFC.
I assume you mean Lil' Nog?
"Vikings fucked Vikings for generation after generation and their warrior bloodlines were passed on, and this motherfucker living in the woods in Minnesota got the best of the best."
I've been waiting for this fight for years
I used to tout it as a future trilogy in which the title would exchange hands a couple times. It isn’t that anymore, but I’m still really fucking excited to see it.
"I have trained to fight an army. There is no way one man can stop me if many cannot." -Georges St. Pierre
Well there we go…
I have to retract my ducking comments now…he’s gonna get destroyed in all probability, but at least he took the fight.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 8:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good night
If Rampage wants to have a chance he’s gotta come in very ageessive like his pride days and get his hands on Machida. If he does tgis tentative crap he’s been doing the dragon will be one fight away from another title shot because he’ll put Jackson to sleep. But I’m going with the dragon on this one.
by Bloodsport on Jul 21, 2010 9:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
No way Lyoto puts Rampage to sleep
I just don’t see any way that happens, aside from a choke (which I also find unlikely).
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
by slapjaw ackrite on Jul 21, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
My money is on Lyoto, if this fight ever materializes. Rampage’s style is custom made for Lyoto to destroy.
I hardly think Lyoto will destroy Rampage. Machida’s road to victory will be ducking in and out while scoring points. Lyoto’s elusiveness will be an issue, but i think Rampage’s power will be the equalizer.
Lemonade was a popular drink, and it still is. I get more stunts and props than Bruce Willis- Guru
Luckily Rampage only needs one punch. I think people forget that Rampage’s striking is fairly technical, and he knows how to counter and create openings (at least he used to..). Some people are talking like it’s Wanderlei Silva going up against Machida. If Rampage takes his training seriously this time, then I think he could win this fight.
Lemonade was a popular drink, and it still is. I get more stunts and props than Bruce Willis- Guru
by Dr. Octagon on Jul 21, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
but I really don’t think that Rampage has that one shot power anymore.
I mean good lord how many clean shots did he land on Keith Jardine?
It will take good combinations from Rampage or a mistake on Lyoto’s part (like Evans) for Rampage to even connect let alone KO Machida.
I apologize for my never-ending assault on the English Language. I feel like Qui the promoter from Jade Empire...
I remember him dropping Jardine at the end of the fight
And getting Rashad pretty good (luckily Rashad’s chin is great).
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 22, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
His boxing, offensively and defensively, is the one part of his game that is better than it ever has been. Having said that, I don’t think he has shown 1-shot KO power in a long time, and even back in the day, not too often…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 21, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That said, I hope beyond hope that Rampage destroys Machida
The only thing I can’t stand besides Lesnar haters and Fedor huggers are Machida huggers.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 21, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
Just call him “The Dragon”, Rampage.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Machida will be tentative due to recent KO and proven Rampage power. Machida will revert to his bread and butter: elusiveness, and destroy Rampage on the scorecards. The fight will likely be a bit disappointing, as Rampage plods forward and Machida floats away. Sorry to be a downer, but that seems like the most likely scenario.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
Good for Rampage taking this fight
Fighters tend to perform up or down to the level of their competition, and with an opponent as dangerous as Machida I’m convinced Rampage will train the way he should. If he were given a cupcake, he might take things easy and lose a split decision against someone he should be killing. It’s not a problem to lose against top competition, but it becomes a problem if you start losing to nobodies.
Also, in the fight against Rashad Lyoto got tagged with left hooks twice, pretty close to right on the chin. Rashad couldn’t even stagger him, though. If Page connects with similar left hooks, Machida will have a big problem.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Jul 21, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions
No he didn't
You mean right hooks? First one was blocked by Machida’s shoulder, the second just past Machida’s neck (the wrist seemed to connect though), and the third was a slight whiff as Machida’s head was already moving away at that one. Only clean shot I can remember Evans landing was the body kick.
we haven't seen rampage KO'd for a very long time
and I doubt he’ll get KO’d by Machida. He has an iron chin and if he dedicates himself to training it should be a really good fight. Rampage lost two fights and people suddenly lose all confidence in him.
Yeah and I love the way ....
… most on here are sayin are how bad of a fight this is for Rampage when its just as bad as a match up for Machida .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That's insane
There has been exactly one bad match up for Machida thus far, and his name is Shogun Rua
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
How that so insane ? He goes from ...
….. one KO artist to another . Its a bad match up for him right after losing via KO .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 22, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
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