The Week in Quotes: July 11th - 17th
by Mike Fagan on Jul 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT
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STRIKEFORCE HEAVYWEIGHT CIRCUS
"I think it’s hard to make it back this year due the physical therapy, conditioning and all else. Then I might just get back next year." - Fabricio Werdum, revealing that he will go under the knife to repair an injured elbow which would put him out until 2011. (Super Lutas)
"[Werdum's] gotta do what he's gotta do. The re-match will be there, pre elbow surgery or post. That's what the fans want and that's what they will eventually get." - M-1 Director of Global Operations Evgeni Kogan, who's done a commendable job adopting the M-1 dog-and-pony routine. (Bloody Elbow)
"Fighting within the year is a possibility if the right opportunity presents itself." - Werdum's manager Richard Wilner, giving us the "good news". (Sherdog)
"It's not Fabricio Werdum. He already beat [Fedor]." - Strikeforce promoter Scott Coker, making matches like Lindsay Bluth and Tobias Funke discipline their daughter.
"Depending on if there's any future fights, if he fights Overeem, it might not be a title fight. It doesn't have to be. If Fedor is on his last fight with us, we wouldn't make it a title fight with Alistair. But why shouldn't that fight happen regardless?" - Coker. Please just scrap your titles, Scott. They're meaningless objects, and it's clear you feel the same way.
"I just don't think they'll have a choice." - Coker, on potential pushback from M-1 Global.
STRIKEFORCE JUST PUTS ON FIGHTS YOU WANT TO SEE
"That’s not a free television bout. That’s a pay per view fight." - Strikeforce matchmaker Rich Chou, discussing a fight between former pro wrasslers Bobby Lashley and Dave Bautista. Sometimes the truth is the funniest thing in the world. (Heavy.com)
"Absolutely. That’s a pay per view fight." - Coker
"When you tune in to a Strikeforce fight, you know you’re going to see some great fights. But every once in awhile, when you get a chance to throw in a fight like this one that’s just fun to watch? Why not?" - Coker, who should have followed Dana White's lead and just out-and-out called this a freak show. This would be fun in the it's-so-bad-it's-good/LeBron James "Decision" sort of way.
"You can’t give away everything for free." - Chou. I'm not sure people would take this for free, either.
YOU KNOW IT'S A SLOW NEWS WEEK WHEN BOB SAPP IS QUOTABLE
"That's why they used the loophole, and that's why they jumped." - Bob Sapp, who failed to make Impact FC promoter Tom Huggins escrow part of his purse. The fight fell through, and Sapp is out of a payday. (MMA Junkie)
"I'm not going to allow anybody to screw me over." - Sapp, threatening to sue over the ordeal. But wait!
"For three weeks, we tried to get Bob to commit to flight dates and sign a contract. He never actually signed the contract we sent him weeks ago." - Huggins, claiming that tickets from Bulgaria - where Sapp is currently filming a movie - became too expensive given the connecting flights he would have to take to get to Australia. That and... (Sherdog)
"He's 350 pounds; he can't fly coach." - Huggins. Yeah, that'll make it tough.
KEN SHAMROCK SAYS SOME SMART STUFF ABOUT STEROIDS, SERIOUSLY
"That's where your opinion is, that GSP looks normal. Because he's not 260 pounds or 240 pounds, but he's an extremely big 170 pounder." - Ken Shamrock, pointing out that sheer size is hardly evidence of steroid use. (MMA Fighting)
"But because he's not this mammoth, he's safe. I'm not saying he is or he isn't, but what if he is?" - Shamrock
"And he's extremely ripped and extremely muscular and he's put on 10 pounds of solid muscle since he's been in the UFC? And he's doing just as much as Overeem's doing? But yet, because he's a smaller fighter, we tag Overeem." - Shamrock.
WHAT KILLED MICHAEL KIRKHAM?
"The guy beat the heck out of the back of Michael's head to the point where it was beet red." - Michael Kirkham's father Dennis Kirkham, describing Michael's bout prior to the one which led to his death. (MMA Fighting)
"This could have been second-impact syndrome." - Former adviser to the North Caroline Boxing Authority Dr. Joe Estwanik
"From a few days to three-to-four weeks after somebody suffers a significant blow to the head, a second blow can trigger an overwhelming response by the body that we still don't really understand." - Estwanik. Michael Kirkham fought just two days after a 30-day medical suspension.
"Even a minor blow could result in massive swelling of the brain and there's up to a 50 percent chance of dying." - Estwanik
EYE OH KEY
"When I caught [Kawajiri] and tried to submit him, I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg." - Shinya Aoki, channeling his inner Rousimar Palhares. (Sports Navi)
"I knew Kawajiri never taps so I could not win without breaking his bone. I was hoping for an open-fracture." - Aoki. But would he have cried at the site of an exposed limb?
"The people who mocked me in my fight versus Melendez, I wanted to kill them all. Even in this fight, too many people said 'Kawajiri would win!'. I felt like telling these people 'Go to hell!'" - Aoki
WHITE NOISE
"He told me tonight that watching the show open messed him up." - UFC President Dana White, referencing Chuck Liddell watching the intro spot for UFC 116. Yikes. (MMA Weekly)
"All I’m hoping is that he’s going to make the right decision. You know what I mean by the right decision, I hope he’s going to retire." - White. Thanks for the clarification.
PARTING SHOTS
"I've already stopped eating KFC, chocolate, that stuff. I've got a personal trainer, never had one of them before." - Mark Hunt. You can get other compelling Mark Hunt material by signing up to Mark's blog for the low, low price of $100. (Sherdog)
"We have a lot to work on but standing at the base of the mountain you already climbed is a lot less daunting then climbing it for the first time." - Shane Carwin. True, but when you gassed the first time up the mountain, what makes you think you'll get to the top the second time? (The Underground)
"I don’t turn down nothing. Sometimes I don’t even turn down my collar." - James Toney, letting the world know he wants to fight Brock Lesnar. (MMA Weekly)
"Who doesn't want to go out and take out their hero?" - Chris Leben, campaigning for a fight and TUF coaching gig opposite Wanderlei Silva. To answer the question, people who admire Stephen Hawking. (Versus)
"As long as the fans come and keep watching me, I’ll keep getting beat up." - Ken Shamrock, with as sad a declaration of being a broke fighter as you'll see. (Sherdog)
"This is a declaration of war against the WWE and UFC. From Asia, we will take the world." - K-1 President Sadaharu Tanikawa (MMA Fighting)
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No making fun of Carwin this week?
My avatar has Bas Rutten and Terry Funk in it...therefore it's the manliest avatar on SB Nation.
I almost talked myself into letting it slip by too.
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I liked this quote from Da Meltz in regards to a Cain/Lesnar showdown
The former Arizona State wrestling standout has nothing negative to say about the champion. You aren’t going to hear mocking remarks about how "this isn’t fake," referring to Lesnar’s pro wrestling background, or critiques of the less refined aspects of Lesnar’s MMA game. There will be no questioning of Lesnar’s character, no sound bites about how if he taps Lesnar on his chin that Lesnar will go out, or claims that Lesnar doesn’t have the character to be a true champion.
Cain, a truely classy fighter who doesn’t have to hit you over the head with it all the time.
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
Smart too. I wouldn’t want to give Lesnar any reason to train harder.
I get more rec's then a Toyota!
I agree. He probably has a huge reason to train already. I doubt he wants to do another Big Nog impression to win a fight.
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 19, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow SF, you suck
And is Hunt’s blog really $100?
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
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When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
maybe he has a stalker or two he is trying to draw out. Who else would pay that kind of money for a blog.
Chubby Chasers
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 19, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Chubby Chase dot net is free :)
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
It's worth every penny
He has vast blogging knowledge. Don’t hate cuz he’s getting paid.
Tang is a great name for a baby!
I am more hardcore than you!
Wrasslin' dominates this sport.
Ya think
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
Aoki is....
not your usual fighter. but they need disclaimers any time they post his quotes citing cultural differences. There is a lot in that “death-fight” quote that just goes misunderstood.
by destructivist on Jul 19, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think a disclaimer is necessary. People should be cognizant of these sorts of things on their own.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 19, 2010 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So what is the cultural differences that we are missing when a guy says he was planning on breaking a guy’s leg and was hoping that the bone would end up sticking out of the guy’s skin?
“We have a lot to work on but standing at the base of the mountain you already climbed is a lot less daunting then climbing it for the first time.” – Shane Carwin. True, but when you gassed the first time up the mountain, what makes you think you’ll get to the top the second time?
Fagan, you are the man.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
“The guy beat the heck out of the back of Michael’s head to the point where it was beet red.” – Michael Kirkham’s father Dennis Kirkham, describing Michael’s bout prior to the one which led to his death
I should have an interview with “the guy”, D’Juan Owens, up later this week, getting his thoughts on Dennis Kirkham’s remarks. He’s said some interesting things, and has stressed that there’s no way Michael Kirkham was 6’9".
I throw raps that attack like the Japs on Pearl Harbor/MC's be out like bank robbers/Fleeing the scene, to be a sole survivor/DJ the getaway driver/Tried to dip but he dive, I socialize on vocal vibes/On tracks stabbed up with razor sharp knives
I didn't know
James toney was a Three- 6 mafia fan.
“I don’t turn down nothing. Sometimes I don’t even turn down my collar.” – James Toney
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by ElliotMatheny on Jul 19, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
nice.
“I been workin these hoes and they better put my money in my hand”
I throw raps that attack like the Japs on Pearl Harbor/MC's be out like bank robbers/Fleeing the scene, to be a sole survivor/DJ the getaway driver/Tried to dip but he dive, I socialize on vocal vibes/On tracks stabbed up with razor sharp knives
by Anthony Pace on Jul 19, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This does explain why he kept callin Dana a ho.
Hit me again Tube Sock!
by Earl Montclair on Jul 19, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
"Eva sink I car remebble I been worden theer home and unintelligible jibber jabber somethin bout abortion babies"
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
by slapjaw ackrite on Jul 19, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You’ve summed them up perfectly.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 23, 2010 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i love how there’s no popped collars on the “poppin my Collar” album cover
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 19, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The dude in the red jacket’s collar is clearly popped…
by WarToney on Jul 20, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s not a jacket. it’s a red button down shirt, the type where the collar points button onto the neck, and it’s clearly not popped
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Jul 20, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s the single, i think. the album was… i forget the name of the album, but i had it in 11th grade
I throw raps that attack like the Japs on Pearl Harbor/MC's be out like bank robbers/Fleeing the scene, to be a sole survivor/DJ the getaway driver/Tried to dip but he dive, I socialize on vocal vibes/On tracks stabbed up with razor sharp knives
by Anthony Pace on Jul 20, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Arrested Development Reference Was So Awesome
I logged on solely to rec this.
“It’s not Fabricio Werdum. He already beat [Fedor].” – Strikeforce promoter Scott Coker, making matches like Lindsay Bluth and Tobias Funke discipline their daughter.
I just watched the first season of Arrested Development on Hulu. Amazing show, I wish I had watched it when it was still on TV.
"It’s going to be like sex with a grizzly bear, you know, a lot of scratching and growling on both sides." - Don Frye
RIP Sherdog (6/26/10)
I am a nevernude.
And now, denim cutoffs seem to be in fashion in Europe this summer…
Forever indebted to CroCop's left leg for getting me into MMA
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 19, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
BE Unethical in Treatment of GSP
Without any evidence whatsoever, other then he is muscular, wins, and is an UFC champion, BE indirectly libels GSP by endorsing Shamrock’s quotations, that GSP could be juiced! It is a low manner of doing business. It seems to me that BE either should investigate and state or refrain from such high school level of yellow journalism. Juvenile attempts to destroy or at least sully a man’s professional reputation and accomplishments by this manner is something any reputable editor would have ethical, much less legal, concerns about.
Easy Cowboy
It’s just a list of quotes
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
HAHAHA
That is all.
Forever indebted to CroCop's left leg for getting me into MMA
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 19, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Shamrock never accused GSP of ‘roiding. He just used GSP as an example of why it’s unfair to single out Overeem. There’s still a huge misconception about what steroids actually do and why elite athletes use them. It’s possible that Overeem’s used ‘roids to get bigger. It’s also possible that not having to worry about cutting and just eating whatever he wanted is really what happened. Or a combination of the two.
But steroids are primarily used for recovery purposes in athletes. Recovery from injuries, recovery from training.
Anyway. Yeah, this isn’t unethical. Nor is it an “endorsement” of Shamrock’s opinion outside of the “what people use as ’roiding evidence” angle.
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Yes, but.
Recovery is the primary benefit, but that’s where all the gains come from.
Training programs that would be overworking muscles in normal men can be done with steroids.
Recovery is when the muscle cells that are broken down during training are rebuilt during the recovery period.
Unfortunately, ligaments and tendons do not strengthen proportionally to the affected muscle groups.
This is part of, but far from the only reason, for so many elite athletes (among whom PED use is fairly widespread) suffer so many “training” injuries.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Author Schopenhauer
"The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses is very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Jul 19, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Right. I mean, there’s two points here. 1) You don’t just “get big” taking steroids. You have to put in the work. 2) That still doesn’t change the fact that most athletes are using them to train longer, and not necessarily with regards to weight gain.
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http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
“He told me tonight that watching the show open messed him up.” – UFC President Dana White, referencing Chuck Liddell watching the intro spot for UFC 116. Yikes.
What is the show opener he’s referring to? What’s the context of this quote?
I think he meant the gladiator and the black-and-white talking heads pieces they do.
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Could be that Chuck slurs his words and actually said "opium".
Cause there's only one, and that's me
You understand? for all that fighting, you understand
That sucka think he good, that sucka think he can whoop me
And i know he can't whoop me, Ay boy, the n**** whole style is chump
by S.C. Michaelson on Jul 20, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"That's where your opinion is, that GSP looks normal. Because he's not 260 pounds or 240 pounds, but he's an extremely big 170 pounder." - Ken Shamrock, pointing out that sheer size is hardly evidence of steroid use. (MMA Fighting)
The first thing that came to mind when I read that…
Baby Fedor and Josh Barnett.
I don’t turn down nothing. Sometimes I don’t even turn down my collar." – James Toney, letting the world know he wants to fight Brock Lesnar.
Best quote of the week.
“Who doesn’t want to go out and take out their hero?” – Chris Leben, campaigning for a fight and TUF coaching gig opposite Wanderlei Silva. To answer the question, people who admire Stephen Hawking.
Best quote comment of the week
For all the hate on James as not being “Well-Spoken”, he’s certainly a much better quote than most of these postboards.
by WarToney on Jul 20, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
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