Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao Won't Happen in 2010
While a lot of the sports world was sure that the 3:00am press conference held by Bob Arum and Top Rank meant the deal was done between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather I don't think too many boxing fans thought that would be the case. And indeed, what we got was a talk about how Floyd and his people "missed the deadline" and a new target date of May 2011.
I'll leave it to Scott Christ of Bad Left Hook to sum up a lot of what many of us are feeling:
Now, Manny Pacquiao will be fighting on November 13. Bob Arum is looking into Abu Dhabi or Mexico, with possible opponents being Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito -- surprise, surprise, surprise. Instead of looking outside for a real challenge, or even just a fresh challenge for someone who's earned it (like Timothy Bradley, perhaps), Arum stays in-house and offers us potential opponents who have either been shredded once by Manny (Cotto) or who have become the most polarizing and temper spike-inducing figure in boxing (Margarito).
Which brings me to my ultimate feeling right now. It's time for boxing fans from all over the world to stop acting like one side is better than the other in this whole saga. It's time for us to unite, forget about why we do or don't like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Arum, Oscar, Schaefer, Ellerbe, and whoever else is involved in this. It's time for us to start blaming everyone involved for the best and biggest fight available in the entire combat sports world not happening. Nobody is pristine here, and for all the loyalty you've shown these people, you're going to be offered a rematch that doesn't need to happen or a fight with a guy who doesn't even have a license to fight in the United States. (And this isn't about Antonio Margarito, either, so I'd rather not have that discussion for the 63rd time where all the gumshoes crack the case, if you'd do me that favor.)
I'm not raging about this. I'm frustrated simply because this is, like it or not, what boxing is more often than what it isn't. For all the strides that have been made in the last four years or so after a really awful period where guys were flat-out avoiding taking hard fights as much as they possibly could, we have these two diva sides bickering and finding it impossible to make the one fight that really matters for either of them.
I've said it over and over, there is no "war" between boxing and MMA and I think it's stupid to directly compare them as there are different promotional models, not to mention that they're completely different sports. There also is not exactly a huge "crossover" between boxing fans and MMA fans. There are people who like both but they are usually going to spend their dollars in one place before they'd spend in the other.
This fight, however, represents something different. Mayweather/Pacquiao is so big that it could somewhat dictate the scheduling of MMA events. It's the one boxing match that is absolutely must-see and a promotion like the UFC would definitely want to avoid going head-to-head with it or probably even putting on a show the week before or after.
A perfect world would have seen the fight happen during the first round of negotiations and the card feature a great undercard that introduced the casual fans tuning in to great, exciting talent in hopes of maybe creating a few new stars. Instead, as Scott pointed out, we've just got a bunch of divas unwilling to appear weak.
And then there's the idea of Arum and Top Rank daring to suggest Pacquiao vs. Margarito with a straight face. Margarito doesn't have a license to fight in the U.S. after being caught tampering with his hand wraps. Glove tampering has killed fighters in the past and ruined careers and lives. For Margarito to not have been blackballed from the sport but instead possibly rewarded with an overseas bout that would likely be the biggest payday of his career disgusts me and should do the same to anyone who respects combat sports.
Boxing is not dead, nor is it dying. But the sport sure is taking a black eye from letting a huge fight slip away and replacing it with either a completely unnecessary rematch or a reward for a man who was willing to risk other fighter's lives to get a win.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 17, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
sorry...
rushing to get this in before spending a day outside with friends in our pool. fixed now. thanks for the heads up.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 17, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Rub it in that you have a pool. I bet it’s not even that hot where you are…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 17, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pricks who stuff their hand wrapping
Getting a shot at Manny overseas?
I truly hope Arum (and in a way Manny, for accepting it) cop some SERIOUS heat for this.
(If it happens of course)
The rematch idea so soon is a joke though and I doubt would get many buys at all…
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 17, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
I think that's what's gonna happen. They're punishing Margarito by having him fight Pacquiao.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
they're punishing margarito by throwing him in to get his ass beat by Pacquiao
that’s what would happen.
This is a rare day indeed...
I find myself in agreement with you and Sheeplebuster. In the same day.
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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How is that punishment?
I would take a Pacquiao beating for the money this cheating scum is going to see
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 17, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,...
it’s a real punishment to get roughed up for an hour and make a few million.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 17, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I read somewhere that they’d do Margacheato/Pacman in Monterry, Mexico if he couldn’t get licensed in California. When you have to resort to THAT, the whole idea of the fight probably isn’t the best idea.
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IMO
that’s a poor “tactical” move by Pacquiao’s camp. his public perception is much better than Floyd’s at the moment, and this would bring him down, at least in my eyes
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's 2 fights from retirement
I’m not sure he’s worried about his public perception outside of the Philippines all that much. But I agree with your point, why run outside the boundaries of commissions to fight a known cheater? I guess because it’s easy money and another W.
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Pac better be able to dodge all that urine that will be thrown at him.
by kanodogg on Jul 17, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish there was 1/10 of this fight’s hype getting up underneath next year’s Lopez/Gamboa fight… sigh
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey, at least the Super 6 is still entertaining. Froch/Abraham in Monte Carlo is gonna be sweer.
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hells yeah
i wish strikeforce would do the same with their mw tourney. and get cung le and hendo to do it!
Yea, that’s gonna be awesome too. The Super 6 was a brilliant idea that has really got a bunch of semi-casuals back interested in the sport. It’s helped that a lot of the fights have been really good so far. Kessler/Froch being the best, IMO.
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I love Froch. Him KOing Taylor in the 12th is probably my favorite boxing match.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
brutal
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
HE DID?! Could've sworn that was a 12 round sparring session.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
by SSreporters on Jul 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just so long as they don’t get a German to officiate it. “King” Arthur has already gotten far too many gifts from hometown judges over his career.
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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jul 17, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
darn
im by no means a hardcore fan of boxing but this was a fight i was hoping to see o well i can still catch the Super 6 they need to make this fight happen though just for appearances sake
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Not dead, but it is dying
In that the course boxing has taken for the past few years will lead to its demise as a profitable sporting / business enterprise. There is no indication nor internal strategic change to address the major problems with the state of boxing right now, and when you don’t act fast and decisively to stem a hemorrhage, the body is sure to follow. It’s really a damn shame to see the Sweet Science in its current state and I hope to see the boxing community reinvigorate itself, but lets not sugar coat what is a serious problem.
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I like the post Brent & no offense
but I want MMA news, boxing has been dead to a lot(not all) of MMA fans for awhile now.
Maybe its my envy towards Mayweather for stealing the fighter of the year award from the man we all know should of recieved it, but I just don’t seem to care for boxing as much as I used to.
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to be fair
you should also request no mention of ADCC, NCAA wrestling, or K-1 on the site also
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Complaining about covering boxing on an mma site seems comparable to saying your a big movie fan
but you don’t want to read anything about acting. or directing. Or screenwriting, cinematography, makeup, financing, set design, or anything that goes into it. Only the finished films.
joe silva = casting director
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It would be more like being a big movie fan but not wanting to hear about plays and broadway
Which would make sense to me. I consider myself a big movie fan but don’t like plays at all.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 17, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very off-topic but
I hope Matt Leinart stinks and it increases Seattle’s chances of winning the NFC West. Sadly I think we’re up for 4-5 wins this season.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Haha funny how we meet on another blog
Seattle is an unknown just like Arizona. I guess we’ll have to wait till the season starts.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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At least you possibly have a QB for the future
Seattle has got Charlie Whitehurst.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
I met Charlie Whitehurst in '03
when Georgia beat Clemson 30-0
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well true
Lucky for you guys, you had the best draft this year.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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I can just see Golden Tate breaking tackles and going for touchdowns
While Russell Okung stuffs every DE known to man.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Earl Thomas
FTW
I pissed myself when he droped to us.
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Well
Except for Darnell Dockett.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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TEBOW
That is all.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No. But thanks for Earl Thomas
Highway robbery trade last year.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Tebow?
are you serious? Wow Tebow…hahahaha ummmmm NO!
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He's the perfect Wildcat player
Plus he and our genius coach have this whole God-squad thing going on that, while I don’t share, I think will help.
We also got a 1st round quarterback as a backup and a draft pick for an underperforming fullback. It’s good to be the Broncos.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
you just look on the sunny side.
have fun this year….
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Hey, at least you get to beat up on Detroit!
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in Seattle
so no, we don’t.
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We’ll see how Shanny does with all those high-price rent-a-players in DC. Meanwhile, we’re building for the future and instilling an offense built by the guy that ran the 2008 New England Patriots to the highest point total ever.
But hey, Matt Hasselbeck, right?
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Elvis Dumervil
is a monster. I would feel great having him, that’s for sure.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
We better pay him.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We're pretty much doomed for this year
And so is Washington, but Denver is crap.
Watching them go from 6-0 to 8-8 was the best thing that could’ve happened to Seattle.
But thanks to Chicago both Seattle and Denver benefited from big trades while the Bears did not.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Maybe for last year we didn’t but I would bet anything that we have a better record than both Denver and Seattle by the end of this coming season.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Anything?
You’re in a brutal division (sans Detroit)
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It will be tough
but I feel good about our team. Forte had a bum knee all year last year and he finally got that fixed in the offseason. We also finally moved Chris Williams over to the left side at the end of the year and he dominated Jared Allen in the second matchup against Minnesota. Orlando Pace was cut and we had a damn good draft despite not even picking on the first day.
Add in Peppers and Chester Taylor from free agency to go along with a decent offensive coordinator and Mike Tice coaching the line and I feel like we could go 10-6 or maybe even 11-5.
Seattle will be a 6-10 type team and Denver will hover around .500
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
I do like Forte, but I raise you a second year Moreno. God, I hope Clady comes back soon.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Seattle will go 19-0 this year….duh!
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It was good to be the Broncos in Week 7 of last year.
Not so much since then.
You can’t possibly actually think that Tim Tebow will ever turn into any kind of an NFL worthy football player. That was the biggest reach in a draft that I’ve ever seen.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Yeah, the first guy ever to win a Heisman as a sophomore, with no questions about his throwing distance or speed, tough as nails and runs a 4.6. Also a notoriously hard worker (if an obnoxious, ESPN-sold persona) and very coachable.
McD is going to come out smelling like roses.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The NFL is going to eat Tebow alive. He is so over hyped it’s pathetic. McD better keep the kid gloves on or he will ruin whatever potential he does have.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Luckily
We have a good starting QB and a 25 year old first round pick as his backup.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit, that’s right. They traded for Brady Quinn. So now they have Orton, Quinn and Tebow. Not exactly a trio to get all excited over.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
The Cutler faith is strong in you.
It will fade.
Jeff George, baby.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You in denver?
if so, were Cutler’s antics as widely despised and ridiculed there as everywhere else (Sans perhaps Chicago)?
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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 17, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We tried
When Elway got here, we did newspaper stories on what he ate for lunch. We tried to give Jay room. But between him, Marshall, and Shanny’s hands-off approach with players, shit needed to change. Elway was a Bronco, and Cutler put himself above the team when he acted like a bitch at the very notion that he might be traded. That had to go.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Two words "Throwing Mechanics"
Namdi Asumuah (or however the fuck you spell it) would jump that route so fast.
Tebow’s accuracy is suspect, and he never had to read defences at Fla.
But keep hope alive!
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Two words: “good coaching” “work ethic” “Heisman trophy” “four.six”
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Two more words: spread offense
Down here in SEC country nobody knew until the 2007 UGA/UF game that Tebow can’t handle five men on the line and were slow to adapt. Most of thi was due to schemes rather than personnel. So you see the effectiveness Alabama was able to have last year with McClain sneaking up behind Mount Cody.
Now that Tebow has to set up under center? If I was an athletic DE I’d be salivating to play him.
Disclaimer: I hate Tim Tebow.
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 9:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Say what you will about the aesthetics of Tebow's game
But the fact remains that Tebow is the highest rated passer in SEC history.
And by any objective measurement, he was a more effective passer than any of the 5 other SEC QBs taken #1 overall in the previous 12 years (P. Manning, Tim Couch, E. Manning, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Stafford).
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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 17, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Gino Toretta and Eric Crouch were great QB’s too, there’s a reason that the guys who know what they’re talking about said Tebow shouldn’t go before the third round.
by ufc4 on Jul 17, 2010 4:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
have faith SS
Lord Pete will lead us to the promised land…
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NCAA sanctions?
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
have nothing to do with the NFL
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turd in the punchbowl
go poop on someone else’s joke!
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
what?
I don’t get it?
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Pete is gonna lead you to the promised land of NCAA sanctions, total jokey-joke, this thread has jumped the Orca
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate you sooo much
:P
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IDK but "turd in the punchbowl"
Creates a nasty image in my mind. :::shutters:::
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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had a bad senior prom experience, i assume?
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Hasselbeck will lead us to several punts and turnovers
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Now that we actually have an O-Line
I doubt that.
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Having an O-line doesn't improve Hasselbeck's squirt gun arm.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Yeah cuz Joe Montana had a rocket arm....
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Matt's also 35 and has missed time 3 out of the last 4 seasons.
Hey man you should join Field Gulls. The Seahawks blog is awesome.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
I joined
but IDK it dosen’t have the same feel as BE and WKR
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You have to use the subject line
Before using text body but our game thread comments reach 1500 regularly.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
once the Pre-season starts
I’ll be there
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It's kind of dead throughout most of the NFL blogs
since it’s the worst time of the offseason.
BE has a different feel then most other blogs since they have news year round and a couple million visits per month. Hope one day ROTB reaches that point.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Or
His glass jaw everything
Figured I’d use a combat term…
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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busted ribs
yet he still played out the season. Jamie Yeager could learn a thing or two.
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He won't need them when he's running the ball over everyone
Ok let’s let the NFL talk die. We’re probably giving MrTechnique420 a heart attack.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
His name ends in 420
Probably just rolling a joint right now.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Larry Fitzgerald is very athletic, explosive, and has great hands.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
But thank god we dumped Seneca Wallace
I was done with him after that 1 yard pass on 4th and 2 when we could’ve beaten the Bears.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
Nah
we had that game the whole way. Wallace didn’t know what the hell he was doing.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
I can't start with football talk on here.
Cutler threw so many interceptions last year that I hated watching my team by the end of the year. He pissed me off so many times.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Lovie and management is the problem
Your #1 WR can’t be Devin Hester.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
by SSreporters on Jul 17, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
truth
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you should be excited for
Peppers. IMO the best DE in football.
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Seahawks need a pass rush
Our pass rush blows and exposes our secondary, and I can’t stand Kelly Jennings.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
After Mario Williams…
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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 17, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember how pissed Houston was when they passed over Bush?
Not so pissed now, I bet. Mario is a fucking beast.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Funny thing is it was widely derided at the time here
I never knew he would become as good as he did, but the holes in Bushes game and huge local favorite Vince Young’s game were big enough to drive a truck through (although in fairness, Young was, and is, a winner).
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by BigDNotDallas on Jul 17, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bush
has a ring, so he’s a winner.
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I gotta give it to Peppers still.
He’s been doing it for a longer time, and has played on the biggest stages.
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he shaved his mullet off
so I expect his sack numbers to drop 75%.
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In a 4-3 he probably is
In a 3-4 I’d take my boy Dockett.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
I don't consider DE's in the 3-4
to be true DE’s, they’re more like DE/DT hybrids in the 3-4 system.
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Hahahahaha
Thanks for the draft picks!
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what though, to this day I would still do that trade. Orton won’t ever be shit. Cutler at least can turn into a big time player.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
yeah, one bad year in a totaly new system
dosen’t mean he’s a bust.
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Orton was a better quarterback than Jay Cutler last year and cost about a bazillion dollars less. Cutler is the Jeff George of the 21st Century and will never be anything but a head case. Brilliant trade. Oh, and the first think Brandon Marshall did in Miami was get hip surgery without telling anyone.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Orton
had a much better set of recivers (BRANDON FUCKING MARSHAL!!!!!!!!!!)
8-8 was the Broncos record remember?
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They asked Orton to run a high school style offense. Come on now. He is a back up and they know it.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
He has a 51-39 TD ratio and a winning record as a starter and he’s 27. That’s not a backup.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He won a lot of games for us.
I appreciate what he did while he was with the Bears. But he was not at all the reason for us winning those games. In 2005 he had a great record with us only because our defense was dominating people. So don’t do the whole record argument. It doesn’t work in a team sport.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
stats in football
can be missleading
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That’s why I included the TD to INT ratio – he did that while the Defense was on the sidelines
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
then what to him last year when they completely self destructed after starting 6-0?
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
He got hurt against the Skins (our worst loss of the year – fucking Chris Simms) and wasn’t the same after that . Our lack of a solid running game caused our defense (which was fucking AMAZING early) to gas late.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 17, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
but plays aren't an aspect of movies
the theatre is a different entity.
interesting to note, an english teach or mine said everyone in the showbusiness follows this order of condescension:
theatre > cinema > television > radio
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren't they both acting and entertaining an audience?
Very similar, just like boxing and MMA, but both are different.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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No. For actors maybe, but for most of the biz, if we rate for prestige and power, cinema comes in number one.
hmm...
he just told me everyone in theatre spits upon film, who in turn spit upon TV
i interpreted that differently from what’s more prestigious, but i have no doubt you’re right about what you said
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Theatre guys like to look down on the movies, but whenever you’re at the Hollywood Bowl or a major production at Pantages, who’s sitting ahead of them? The movers and shakers in the film biz.
by John Nash on Jul 17, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair
When I go to Bloody Elbow im pretty sure it says Pound-for-Pound the best in Mixed Martial Arts Commentary, News and Commun. (Community I assume)
Or does it? Just because boxing IS a form of martial arts doesn’t mean it IS Mixed Martial Arts.
Too much critisism if you ask me.
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by MrTechnique420 on Jul 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get this boxing vs. MMA thing
Both sports are awesome. I don’t get why people have to choose sides. It baffles me when people only like one or the other. Both are combat sports and when they both are at there best nothing is better.
by Matthew DiRienzo on Jul 17, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
meh, they don't
at least i don’t.
Andre Ward FTW
by Body Triangle on Jul 19, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
It's simple dude
just don’t read the damn story for crying out loud. No one’s holding your sexy ass down and forcing you to read this.
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Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
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Next you'll be asking for no more reports on NCAA wrestlers.
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Boxing IS a form of martial arts and it IS a form of combat.
Let it be written.
The Dos Equis guy wishes he was Brock Lesnar.
We've talked about boxing since BE started...
and the site is doing just fine. There are non-boxing articles above and below this one, so just skip on to the next one.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 17, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You just served that guy.
How does it feel Mr. Brookhouse.?
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
I still blame Mayweather
I mean, I get it, all of the egos involved in this process have had a roll in screwing it up, but it’s also pretty clear to me that Manny wants the fight and Mayweather doesn’t.
At some point, Pretty Boy Floyd needs to decide that he wants the fight. It’s not fair to ask the champ and P4P king to grovel for this fight.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
As long as he can sell 1+ million ppv's without Manny
he’s not going to fight Manny.
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
that's why part of me thinks it can still happen
but if Manny calls it quits, that’s the wild card. I guess Floyd can fight Andre Berto, but after that there is NO ONE
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but it'd still sell
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
basically
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by Anthony Pace on Jul 17, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Floyd can always “retire” again and come back once they find him someone with a little name value and negligible threat.
You don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jul 17, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh... here's what I said on BLH. I think it's relevant here as well.
I think this illustrates a major dichotomy in sports today.
The major figures have to be spectacular athletes. That’s their primary job, in theory. But then they become celebrities for it and gain all the baggage that comes with it. That’s why you have Manny and Floyd pissing and moaning, that’s why you have Lebron filming hour long specials, that’s why Terrell Owens has a reality show.
The same money and attention that makes professional sports (not just boxing) so lucrative is also a poison that taints them.
Manny suffers from the same problems that Floyd does. He’s a celebrity, and feels entitled to things because of it.
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I don't disagree with you, but I don't think they're equally culpable either
Everything I’ve read about this situation convinces me that Manny wants this fight and Floyd doesn’t. That’s not to say Manny isn’t getting in his own way by setting deadlines and drawing lines in the sand, but we as fans can still put the brunt of the blame where it belongs, and I think that’s right at Floyd’s feet.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
You got the title wrong.
It’s Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Won’t Happen in 2010
fixed.
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I like Pacquaio and all but a lot of his fans are utterly obnoxious. The title is fine, now shut up.
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you shut up
:P
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So is this the boxing equivalent
of lay n’ pray?
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Imagine 5 different M-1s with more money to throw around.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Have you accepted BROCKLESNARRRRRR!!!!!!! as your personal Heavyweight Champion?
No thank you
I will not imagine something so awfull.
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What this shows me
is exactly how much is at stake here. these guys have so much on the line and the payday is so big, it isn’t just a- hey lets fight and get paid and go. these guys have a big world around them revolving on this fight too. This is the biggest boxing event we will have seen, it’s gonna be the biggest stage ever.
I wish it would happen sooner, but i’m sincere when i say i’m not freaking out over it. i’m pretty confident that it’s gonna happen. not like roy jones vs hopkins 2. it’ll happen when they’re still fresh in their primes. and when it does you can bet that the loser has a lot more to lose too so the pressure is gonna be insane. That could also explain why there’s some stalling. and anyway, same thing happened with ufc and fedor so there is no right or wrong here either. no boxing sucks, see boxing is dead. cause its happening in mma too.
I don’t think it ever will happen.
Money has built himself up fighting a lot of fluff. So 1 major loss and it destroys his whole legacy. Pac actually has been taking out some talent so a loss wouldn’t really hurt him as much,
Money has everything to loss in this fight and thats why we’ll never see it.
Even if Manny/Floyd does happen, I’m totally bummed out that it didn’t happen 5 months ago when it should have. I just don’t care as much anymore for some reason.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
+1
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by MrTechnique420 on Jul 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a really big issue when it didn't happen the first time around. It really hurt the fight.
It’s still huge, but it’s hurt.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 17, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
MEH
Don’t care for boxing so I have any interest in this fight.
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Boxing is great
But the sport of boxing sucks. Good superfights are rare — 2 per year maybe? I love watching it when it’s not a chaotic mess, but for the last 5 years or so, it’s really taken a nosedive.
MMA is on the rise, and there are good superfights once a month at least. Boxing is falling apart before our eyes. And that’s unfortunate.
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by IKilled007 on Jul 17, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The sport of boxing is an incredible display of athleticism and grace.
The BUSINESS of boxing has become an ugly, feces smeared kitchen. And now because of the state of the kitchen, all the fine meals still leave a bad taste in your mouth.
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That's saying it better
Good correction. I meant the business of boxing like you said.
"Daydreams of a 'fair' world which would treat him according to his 'real worth' are the refuge of all those plagued by a lack of self-knowledge." -- Ludwig von Mises.
Agreed, and as someone who likes order and progression, boxing is maddening
With the way the promotions are set up, it makes it very hard to follow young fighters as the progress through the ranks. There’s no rhyme or reason to when guys get into title contention, or who they fight, other than what is likely to do the best gate.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
This
Is a large part of the problem.
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Paul Williams is lackluster. No following, no name.
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by Ryan Tical on Jul 17, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To be fair...
Arum, not Manny, is the culprit. Think about it. Who in their right mind gives Mayweather a time deadline then expect him to answer. This is perfect PR for Manny to get his name out there on behalf of Mayweather. Notice Arum didn’t bring Goldenboy in a negative light, he only mentions Al Haymon.
Deep down Arum didn’t want this fight, or knew Mayweather wouldn’t agree, due to the fact he covering up lies with more lies. He said Manny agreed to random testing, random means to the day of the fight, not a cutoff 14 days prior to the event. Those were old negotiations that were thrown out back in February when Manny didn’t want 14, suddenly it works for Arum.
I still put heat on Top Rank for not fighting other fighters outside of his own promotion. Clever tactic in order to bypass random testing.
Anyway you wish to cut the old crap cake. Mayweather still has 30-40 million dollar fights out there: Sergio Martinez, Andre Berto, Winky Wright, Miguel Cotto, Timothy Bradley, Kelly Pavlik. There are quite a few names that the PPV King can acknowledge. It’s Manny who is running out of fighters. Soon he’ll be picking from the 140’s and trying to make a lackluster superfight e.f. Pacquiao-Clottey.
They want to beat Mayweather without physically beating Mayweather. They use useless straps, bogus fights to give people reason to lookover Mayweather instead of fighting him.
The business of Boxing….
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by Ryan Tical on Jul 17, 2010 4:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I disagree about PBF’s potential moneymaking opponents. Most of the guys you’re talking about are bigger than PBF, and he’s not going to risk his legacy by fighting at 154 again. DLH was his only fight at 154 if I’m not mistaken, and he took that because of the huge payday and the fact that DLH was on the downside of his career. He can talk all he wants about fighting Martinez/Pavlik etc, but it’s all bluster. He won’t risk his 0 at 154. Berto is his only real option for a money fight.
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Wrong....
Sorry, but Mayweather has already made mention on moving up to 154 and possibly 160 to challenge Sergio Martinez. Sergio said he wouls undergo any all testing to make it happen, as long as the fight was above @ 154 or above. It was mention at his post fight interview.
Floyd wants to capture his 7th title, possibly 8th which would include a lineal title. Very Ray Leonard. For the record, Pavlik was brought up as well. Winky was simply added since he is ranked 4th among the good big men who aren’t as risky as Paul Williams, whom I don’t consider a threat at all.
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by Ryan Tical on Jul 17, 2010 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Of course PBF has mentioned it. What PBF says and what he does have always been two very different things though. I just don’t see him moving up for any amount of money, when he can make good money taking safer fights at 147 and protect his legacy. Sergio Martinez won’t offer the kinda of purse or PPV money that he got from the DLH fight.
I don’t claim to be a hardcore expert on boxing or anything, this is just my opinion of things. I don’t think you’ll ever see PBF fight at 154. Against anyone. He’s already won a belt at 154, why go up and do what he’s already accomplished. As you said, money talks, but I just don’t see it.
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I value your opinion, sir...
And that isn’t sarcasm. I agree. However, since Mayweather took the fight against Mosley, he is definetely willing and up to the challenge. Sergio has a large hispanic fanbase, he may not have thst casual American fanbase, but with the right PR, his lineal title on the line. It would take the heat of a Pacquiao match-up by Mayweather takibf on a REAL champion. It sends Mayweather’s value through the roof.
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by Ryan Tical on Jul 17, 2010 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good points
Well, for the good of the sport (and my selfishness), I hope he steps up and takes on a challenge like that. It would shut up a lot of the people saying the same stuff I am. I’d pay to see that fight for sure, because it’d be the first time in a long time that I would watch a fight thinking PBF could potentially lose.
Good conversation, sir.
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A lot folks believe Mayweather would lose to Sergio..
But, yes. Good conversation, bro’.
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by Ryan Tical on Jul 17, 2010 5:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
plus...
He fought for a $25,000,000 payday against the bigger De La Hoya. If the money is there, the fight will happen. Those fighters would do anythinf to get a shot at their biggest payday. Floyd brings that.
Sergio, Pavlik, Berto… if it doesn’t make money it doesn’t make sense. Those fights do the opposite.
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by Ryan Tical on Jul 17, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Makes no sense
Arum, not Manny, is the culprit.
That’s like saying Fedor shouldn’t be at fault for anything M-1 does in regards to his fights and the crap they put Strikeforce through after the Brett Rogers fight. Arum is hired by Manny and can be fired by him if Manny were to have a huge issue with Arum’s tactics.
by Matthew DiRienzo on Jul 17, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It makes perfect sense...
That’s why Floyd makes his own decisions and Manny still hands over a portion of his purse to Top Rank. Arum thinks he’s doing this in the best interest of Manny? Thats a laugh. If that was the case then Manny would have agreed to 14-days originally and 24-days then allows Arum to renegotiate a term which holds no water. That and the fact that Arum only spoke to Al Haymon and nobody from GB Promotion; Richard Schaffer who has spoken on behalf of Mayweather as well as Leonard Ellerbe.
It’s shady business. Arum never had intentions of making this fight happen. If Manny had any sense he would have dumped Arum long ago.
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by Ryan Tical on Jul 17, 2010 9:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this proves my point
If Manny had any sense he would have dumped Arum long ago.
Manny is as much to blame as Arum
by Matthew DiRienzo on Jul 18, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a very good take on this whole situation. People need to stop getting caught up in the fanboyism and realize that this is just a giant clusterfuck, and everyone is to blame.
by Phildo on Jul 17, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I care just enough
to post that I don’t care. This fight has gone way past it’s sell-by date. It gonna take longer to happen than Chuck-Wandy did …
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This is why having MMA managers and fighters have all the power is bad business in the long run. While a promotion like the UFC appears to control too much, it does give leverage that a champion will fight the contender as opposed to simply ducking and ducking until neither fighter is anywhere near their prime. In the meantime, they fight others who pose no real risk to the money train that is neither justified nor shared with the undercard or prelim fighters. The UFC model is what is going to keep MMA from not going the downward direction of boxing.
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