On Homophobia in MMA

Is to either stay standing (but striking) or an an aggressive ground game with obvious intent to finish

I saw what you did there…well played.

Shad Smith.

There has been at least one already, but never for a major promotion. A gay male UFC champion would be a big time change.

Isn’t Nick Ring…something?

That’ll probably happen after the guy (or gal) retires. Imagine it’d be hard to find fights as an openly guy fighter, probably hard to find a gym, too.

Yeah, that’s me with Genius

I was talking about this recently with some friends who used the great example of how everyone was drooling over Liddell’s 6-pack.

So with this reasoning, people that drool over how good a horse looks before the Kentucky derby have a beastiality fetish?

Hmmmmm, i agree with 95% of what you’re saying, but girls comment on other girls appearance all the time… That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s sexual. Guys do it too.

And SHIT, Chuck has NEVER had abs. His gut is practically a meme.

co-signed

One of my best friends in college was gay and reveled in it. He made Will and Grace look like Walker Texas Ranger. And one day some guy who was too full of his own manliness and ego used a familiar epithet against him.

Two days later, my buddy was making out with the dudes girlfriend. He said afterwards “Yeah, I liked it. Not sexually, but the spite felt great.”

He was a strange kid…

It’s exactly because of the youth and powerlessness of these young fans that I worry. They are impressionable and look up to their MMA idols. We should be holding fighters and figureheads to a higher standard instead of just shrugging our shoulders and saying “Oh well, that’s just the way it is.” And older fans who know better need to inform their little brothers that homophobic language is wack, or whatever the kids say these days.

I have no problem being called gay, in the right context:

“Damn, that dudes hot. He must be gay.”

I gotta say, that level of generalization would offend me if it didn’t seemed to be based on limited insight and experience with women. I will say now that I’m in my mid-20’s getting laid is a lot easier than it was at 17, but that doesn’t say much. If your attractive, charming and well-endowed(not saying I am) your going to attract women regardless of your age. Women are all different. They all need and want different things. Many women don’t need ‘security’ or would rather trade it in for a few multiple orgasms.

I’m 22 and throughout high school til now I’ve never known anyone like this. I find these blame the youth responses to every issue to be funny – particularly when we’re the driving force of gay rights rallies and all that glitter. Quit lumping us in with the rednecks.

You would have liked what I had originally typed, then.

GSP is fueled by shame?

let me clarify. I think all the examples you used are great, but really, those things you listed are the driving force behind their motivation to train, to become great.

What I meant was that in the midst of a fight, there are so many things that you need to be thinking of, so many strategic and technical adjustments and movements must be executed, that anyone thinking about sex would stand little to no chance of ever reaching the top.

Some do fight with emotion- Randleman, Leben, Brock in his 1’st fight with Mir, etc etc. But to be technically excellent as elite fighters do, there can’t be any distractions whatsoever.

The fact of the matter is, Lesnar is one of the biggest stars in MMA, and he made those comments. Right before he started training in MMA, actually.

“I don’t like gays. Write that down in your little notebook. I don’t like gays.”

Time doesn’t erase everything.

Additionally, when I roll with women, I don’t get turned on. I try not to get choked unconscious. When you’re trying to keep someone from taking your arm or neck home with them, sex just doesn’t even come into it in most peoples’ minds. I know how it looks from the outside, but damnit, people should try it and see how worried their are about the number of X an Y chromosomes compared to the number of armbars and cross chokes.

Greatest line ever.

I’m glad you think he’s so goddamn funny cause he just walked off with your school clothes money

I used to be a fafafatty, so I find myself rooting for the fat guy most of the time. Beach muscles don’t win fights.

War Nelson, by the way.

He said as long as you’re not discriminatory, you’re free to feel how you feel.

Not where I’m from. We’re pretty open here in Portland. I try to show a little skin during job interviews. You never know, the boss might like him some caramel.

and that’s a huge problem.

As long as they aren’t prohibitive.

You can like people or not like people for any reason you want. Some people don’t like people for the way they laugh. Or for the way they look. Or how they talk. Or how they act. Or for the fact that they are gay. Or for the fact that they are black. Or white or asian or any other fucking color.

As human beings they can do that. They can do and choose to feel however they want. Does that make it right? That depends on who you ask. Do I believe it to be right? Fuck no. I find it to be ridiculous. If I feel connected to someone then I feel connected to them and I will be friends with them. If I don’t then I don’t. That’s how I look at it.

I’m saying if someone hates someone else for something like that then that’s just how it is. But if they hate someone else for that and then they fuck them out of making a living or getting a promotion or cause them some sort of harm or discomfort….then its fucking bullshit and not ok.

Its no different than if a guy kissed a girl that didnt want him to kiss her.

A dude kissed him and he punched him.

was not homophobia. It was just awsome.

agreed

I’m a dick sometimes.

It would seem to me that she was saying that the women involved don’t do it, but the men often do, but that’s just my reading.

Dude. The point is that if you think about people calling each other “dyke” as an insult, it seems like it would be pretty offensive, right? But young men today say “faggot” like it’s nothing.

You are quite the literal minded chap, aintcha?

And I’m sure a fighter would be equally disgusted by that.

“Oooh, Rashad, I got turned on by you knocking Chuck out.”
“Oooh, Rashad, I got turned on by your layin on top of Sam Hogar”

I’m sure his reaction would be the same to both.

2 female MMa fighters RNC one another…..it’s kinda kinky ;)

Most, if not all fighters, know that there are men that are gay that watch for the “hot men”. It’s asinine to compare sexuality to violence when violence is an integral part of the sport.

MMA has way less people participating and watching it, obviously. But the percentage of people who say and do homophobic things seems to be less than the huge portion of homphobes playing or watching other sports.

I have been in football locker rooms and BJJ/MMA gyms. There are a few gay dudes in both places. The only difference is we know some the guys in the gym are gay, we only guess who’s gay in the locker room.

The fact that MLB is bigger than MMA was the first point I made earlier. So, no disagreements there. The difference between how Ozzie responded and how Dana responded, however, is that in order to make amends with MLB and the public, Ozzie had to at least appear sincere. Dana apologized, on the other hand, in the wink, wink, joke, joke, sort of way.

It’s more socially acceptable.
Dana says Loretta is a fag he has to apologize
Dana says someone is the N word or called a latino fighter a S and we’d never see him again